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(WTKR)   Bay area's first pay-as-you-go jail is $155 a night, the cost of a three star hotel. "You do get cable TV, but you don't get a warm cookie on your bed," Unless your cellmate is into that kind of thing   (wtkr.com) divider line 169
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2013-07-26 11:34:11 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Are you feeling like a victim?


If you give a troll a cookie...
 
2013-07-26 11:34:26 AM  
"...and cable TV on a widescreen, with a remote. And yes, it's HD."

Do they make widescreen non-HD televisions?
 
2013-07-26 11:36:17 AM  
This is one of those threads were poor people discover caps lock, isn't it?
 
2013-07-26 11:36:48 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: "...and cable TV on a widescreen, with a remote. And yes, it's HD."

Do they make widescreen non-HD televisions?


Why isn't it projection TV? And where is my internet service? My PS3?  DO THEY EXPECT ME TO LIVE LIKE AN ANIMAL?!?1?
 
2013-07-26 11:37:13 AM  

KimNorth: That is true, it is that every single time and I mean every time hot wings see's me on here he zero's in on me with whites this whites that and right away he called me racist so I just assumed race "whites" must have been mentioned. so your right I'm wrong race was not said.


reads like you're a racist and also have no personal responsibility...
 
2013-07-26 11:37:18 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Yes, it's my fault that you're a racist.


He may be a racist, but you have an axe to grind. who is trolling who?
 
2013-07-26 11:37:24 AM  

trappedspirit: This is one of those threads were poor people discover caps lock, isn't it?


umm....
 
2013-07-26 11:38:41 AM  
alexvermeer.com
 
2013-07-26 11:39:56 AM  

dsmith42: Droog8912: factoryconnection:
There's a very strong correlation with the rise and fall of violent crime on a time-delayed basis with the introduction and later banning of lead in gasoline in societies worldwide.  Lead exposure in children damages development of the pre-frontal cortex, which is important for making rational decisions in emotional situations.  For those with the right brain chemistry, that damage basically turns off their "morality" switch and leads to ape-sh*t crazy behavior in adolescence and young adulthood.

This match-up has been studied among countries that had different times for introduction and removal of leaded gas from society, and it has a very strong correlation.

Interesting theory.  Do you happen to know the name of the study?

Mother Jones article going into more detail about the data

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/lead-crime-link-gasol in e

Study from 2000 cited in article (pdf file) showing 90% correlation for 23 year lag in lead exposure in the USA

http://www.ricknevin.com/uploads/Nevin_2000_Env_Res_Author_Manuscrip t. pdf

2007 study by same author looking at whole world

http://pic.plover.com/Nevin/Nevin2007.pdf


Eh...might be a reason those studies aren't published in a criminology journal.
 
2013-07-26 11:40:01 AM  

cowgirl toffee: trappedspirit: This is one of those threads were poor people discover caps lock, isn't it?

umm....


CAPS LOCK THREAD!!! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!11!!!
 
2013-07-26 11:40:04 AM  

cowgirl toffee: StoPPeRmobile: "...and cable TV on a widescreen, with a remote. And yes, it's HD."

Do they make widescreen non-HD televisions?

Why isn't it projection TV? And where is my internet service? My PS3?  DO THEY EXPECT ME TO LIVE LIKE AN ANIMAL?!?1?


Projection TVs are more susceptible to video game image burn-in when paused for extended periods.
 
2013-07-26 11:40:24 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-26 11:40:42 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: [alexvermeer.com image 300x300]


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-26 11:41:12 AM  

lockers: HotWingConspiracy: Yes, it's my fault that you're a racist.

He may be a racist, but you have an axe to grind. who is trolling who?


Only one thing is clear, black people are gay and nobody talks about it.
 
2013-07-26 11:42:04 AM  

palelizard: cowgirl toffee: StoPPeRmobile: "...and cable TV on a widescreen, with a remote. And yes, it's HD."

Do they make widescreen non-HD televisions?

Why isn't it projection TV? And where is my internet service? My PS3?  DO THEY EXPECT ME TO LIVE LIKE AN ANIMAL?!?1?

Projection TVs are more susceptible to video game image burn-in when paused for extended periods.


There is no "pause" in my game play!
 
2013-07-26 11:42:28 AM  

gerbilpox: Diogenes: And leave my boyfriend out of this.

[wakpaper.com image 425x283]

That pic is disturbing. I'm as straight as they come, and no guy appeals to me, fem-ish or butch.

But damn, look at those eyes...


Black hair and blue eyes gets me every time.
 
2013-07-26 11:42:56 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: lockers: HotWingConspiracy: Yes, it's my fault that you're a racist.

He may be a racist, but you have an axe to grind. who is trolling who?

Only one thing is clear, black people are gay and nobody talks about it.


So you are going to trot out some crazy crap someone else said to defend yourself? Carry on then.
 
2013-07-26 11:43:35 AM  

offmymeds: cowgirl toffee: trappedspirit: This is one of those threads were poor people discover caps lock, isn't it?

umm....

CAPS LOCK THREAD!!! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!11!!!


MOTHA-FARKIN CAPS LOCK THREAD!

MOTHA-FARKIN CAPS LOCK THREAD!

MOTHA-FARKIN CAPS LOCK THREAD!

Oh shiat, now I'm poor.
 
2013-07-26 11:44:35 AM  

lockers: HotWingConspiracy: lockers: HotWingConspiracy: Yes, it's my fault that you're a racist.

He may be a racist, but you have an axe to grind. who is trolling who?

Only one thing is clear, black people are gay and nobody talks about it.

So you are going to trot out some crazy crap someone else said to defend yourself? Carry on then.


I wasn't aware there was any need to defend myself. Were you attacking me?
 
2013-07-26 11:44:40 AM  

odinsposse: d23: we need to make justice EVEN MORE easy for the rich.

buuuulshait.

Don't worry I'm sure they'll start charging other prisoners for their stay soon. It's all part of the plan to reintroduce debtors prisons and imprison a majority of the country.


Most of the people I talk to irl suuport both charging prisoners for their stay AND forcing them to work for pennies. Of course the stay would become longer if you couldn't pay. You know, to work it off.

Shortsighted idiots don't realize half of them are one layoff away from joining these folks.
 
2013-07-26 11:47:51 AM  

fireclown: El Morro: People aren't supposed to be raped or beaten up in jail in the first place.

Winner!  The casual attitude people take to this is terrifying to me.


Ditto.
 
2013-07-26 11:50:38 AM  
Just so I don't have to associate with the low life's.
 
2013-07-26 11:52:14 AM  

megarian: offmymeds: cowgirl toffee: trappedspirit: This is one of those threads were poor people discover caps lock, isn't it?

umm....

CAPS LOCK THREAD!!! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!11!!!

MOTHA-FARKIN CAPS LOCK THREAD!

MOTHA-FARKIN CAPS LOCK THREAD!

MOTHA-FARKIN CAPS LOCK THREAD!

Oh shiat, now I'm poor.


It's ok.  Regular jail is free. Wanna play with the PS3?
 
2013-07-26 11:52:20 AM  
I'm guessing it's empty because they stopped busting people on pot charges.They specifically built the thing for non-violent offenders, which is pig code for stoners.

I remember a Penn Jillette Libertarian fantasy, where there are no homeless on the street because they've been given rooms in the now empty jails.
 
2013-07-26 11:52:32 AM  
odinsposse:
Don't worry I'm sure they'll start charging other prisoners for their stay soon. It's all part of the plan to reintroduce debtors prisons and imprison a majority of the country.

I'd be surprised if they didn't already. According to my county's website, it costs $29 a night to stay in our work release detention center, plus $15 a week for urinalysis.

The regular jail is $10 a night if you don't qualify for work release.
 
2013-07-26 11:54:31 AM  

Lucky LaRue: Yes, you read that right:  Rich people have their own jails.


so farked up...
 
2013-07-26 11:57:03 AM  

cowgirl toffee: megarian: offmymeds: cowgirl toffee: trappedspirit: This is one of those threads were poor people discover caps lock, isn't it?

umm....

CAPS LOCK THREAD!!! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!11!!!

MOTHA-FARKIN CAPS LOCK THREAD!

MOTHA-FARKIN CAPS LOCK THREAD!

MOTHA-FARKIN CAPS LOCK THREAD!

Oh shiat, now I'm poor.

It's ok.  Regular jail is free. Wanna play with the PS3?


Hell yeah! We get Honeybuns, too!
 
2013-07-26 11:57:46 AM  

Maul555: Lucky LaRue: Yes, you read that right:  Rich people have their own jails.

so farked up...


And think, it's in the most liberal part of the country.
 
2013-07-26 12:00:33 PM  

Bumblefark: dsmith42:
Study from 2000 cited in article (pdf file) showing 90% correlation for 23 year lag in lead exposure in the USA
http://www.ricknevin.com/uploads/Nevin_2000_Env_Res_Author_Manuscrip t. pdf
2007 study by same author looking at whole world
http://pic.plover.com/Nevin/Nevin2007.pdf

Eh...might be a reason those studies aren't published in a criminology journal.


Thanks to dsmith42 for the researcher's name; I subsequently found additional research posted in the NBER digest, which can hardly be claimed is not a respected, scholarly organization: http://www.nber.org/digest/may08/w13097.html
 
2013-07-26 12:00:37 PM  

megarian: cowgirl toffee: megarian: offmymeds: cowgirl toffee: trappedspirit: ...

It's ok.  Regular jail is free. Wanna play with the PS3?

Hell yeah! We get Honeybuns, too!


Honey-buns! WHOOT!

img593.imageshack.us
 
2013-07-26 12:00:54 PM  

uber humper: Maul555: Lucky LaRue: Yes, you read that right:  Rich people have their own jails.

so farked up...

And think, it's in the most liberal part of the country.


Which explains why they even bother to prosecute rich people.
 
2013-07-26 12:05:42 PM  
I was in holding there for an afternoon, enjoyed my stay! It didn't cost money back then...but my cell did have cable.

/missed a court date
//for doing donuts in central park
 
2013-07-26 12:06:07 PM  

lockers: uber humper: Maul555: Lucky LaRue: Yes, you read that right:  Rich people have their own jails.

so farked up...

And think, it's in the most liberal part of the country.

Which explains why they even bother to prosecute rich people.


You're exaggerating.  I'm not.
 
2013-07-26 12:12:01 PM  

cowgirl toffee: megarian: cowgirl toffee: megarian: offmymeds: cowgirl toffee: trappedspirit: ...

It's ok.  Regular jail is free. Wanna play with the PS3?

Hell yeah! We get Honeybuns, too!

Honey-buns! WHOOT!


*shrug*

At least it's not poop?
 
2013-07-26 12:12:47 PM  
"How did you get so good at embezzling?"

"I stayed at a Holiday Inn Supermax."
 
2013-07-26 12:15:23 PM  

megarian: cowgirl toffee: megarian: cowgirl toffee: megarian: offmymeds: cowgirl toffee: trappedspirit: ...

It's ok.  Regular jail is free. Wanna play with the PS3?

Hell yeah! We get Honeybuns, too!

Honey-buns! WHOOT!

*shrug*

At least it's not poop?


WHOOT! Milk Duds?
 
2013-07-26 12:19:22 PM  
$155/night seems a bargain.
In SoCal it's $350/night and it's NSFW, too!
 
2013-07-26 12:23:41 PM  

cowgirl toffee: megarian: cowgirl toffee: megarian: cowgirl toffee: megarian: offmymeds: cowgirl toffee: trappedspirit: ...

It's ok.  Regular jail is free. Wanna play with the PS3?

Hell yeah! We get Honeybuns, too!

Honey-buns! WHOOT!

*shrug*

At least it's not poop?

WHOOT! Milk Duds?


You. I like you.
 
2013-07-26 12:27:42 PM  

factoryconnection: This story is from a Hampton Roads-area station, and yet they use "Bay Area" and Fremont with no modifier.  Is this actually from Fremont, CA?


I doubt it. $155/night will buy you a damp spot in an alley at 7th and Turk in SF.
 
2013-07-26 12:29:12 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Yes, you read that right: When you get sent to jail, they charge you for everything.


So, it's like staying at a Hilton.
 
2013-07-26 12:32:35 PM  

megarian: cowgirl toffee: megarian: cowgirl toffee: megarian: cowgirl toffee: megarian: offmymeds: cowgirl toffee: trappedspirit: ...

...

You. I like you.


I know. :)
 
2013-07-26 12:37:38 PM  

megarian: cowgirl toffee: megarian: cowgirl toffee: megarian: cowgirl toffee: megarian: offmymeds: cowgirl toffee: trappedspirit: ...

It's ok.  Regular jail is free. Wanna play with the PS3?

Hell yeah! We get Honeybuns, too!

Honey-buns! WHOOT!

*shrug*

At least it's not poop?

WHOOT! Milk Duds?

You. I like you.


media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-26 12:38:37 PM  

Droog8912: Bumblefark: dsmith42:
Study from 2000 cited in article (pdf file) showing 90% correlation for 23 year lag in lead exposure in the USA
http://www.ricknevin.com/uploads/Nevin_2000_Env_Res_Author_Manuscrip t. pdf
2007 study by same author looking at whole world
http://pic.plover.com/Nevin/Nevin2007.pdf

Eh...might be a reason those studies aren't published in a criminology journal.

Thanks to dsmith42 for the researcher's name; I subsequently found additional research posted in the NBER digest, which can hardly be claimed is not a respected, scholarly organization: http://www.nber.org/digest/may08/w13097.html


Pretty sure I didn't say the publications weren't "scholarly." I suggested there might be a red flag when a researcher is publishing his work in academic titles that have no particular expertise in his subject matter. It sort of undermines the peer-review process, since the people who would be looking at his work really aren't in a position to determine the validity of the claims. (Especially when the author appears to studiously avoid referencing works from the subject-relevant academic field in their literature review.)

/and, skimming through the work, yeah: I'm guessing any criminology/social problems title would have bounced the manuscript, or at the very least required a complete overhaul of the writeup.
 
2013-07-26 12:57:52 PM  
California LOVES a farking revenue stream. Got a DUI a dozen years ago- they were happy to offer me the option of cleaning up trash all day- for $100 a day fee! I told them to go to hell. It's OK to have inmates pick up garbage (gets you outside, away from the monotony of jail, etc), but I'll be damned if I'm gonna PAY the state $100 a day for  the "privilege" to clean up everybody's goddamn trash-

/old, bitter
 
2013-07-26 01:01:28 PM  

Bung_Howdy: California LOVES a farking revenue stream. Got a DUI a dozen years ago- they were happy to offer me the option of cleaning up trash all day- for $100 a day fee! I told them to go to hell. It's OK to have inmates pick up garbage (gets you outside, away from the monotony of jail, etc), but I'll be damned if I'm gonna PAY the state $100 a day for  the "privilege" to clean up everybody's goddamn trash-

/old, bitter


Can you blame them? The fricking voters won't let them generate revenue any normal way, so they have to resort to things like this.

/i've had to go to the court building three times in order to get a fix-it ticket cleared. I'm not any more enamored with this state than you are, but I try to see root causes to things.
 
2013-07-26 01:05:59 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: KimNorth: Sin_City_Superhero: KimNorth: making everything about race, whites have their own jails...waaaaa I'm a victim. that shiat gets old.

Nobody said "whites" except you. Everybody else in here is talking about "RICH PEOPLE". Not "white people". Race wasn't mentioned until you brought it up. I didn't think you were racist. I do now.

That is true, it is that every single time and I mean every time hot wings see's me on here he zero's in on me with whites this whites that and right away he called me racist so I just assumed race "whites" must have been mentioned. so your right I'm wrong race was not said.

Yes, it's my fault that you're a racist.


Ouch.

lulz
 
2013-07-26 01:06:35 PM  

Peki: You can make the same correlation with legalized abortion. Surprise! When there are fewer poor people, crime tends to go down.


It does for the US, but the abortion thing doesn't play out the same way in other countries, but all countries have had and then banned leaded gas and the correlation holds true.
 
2013-07-26 01:10:52 PM  
I'm all for locking up violent offenders who are a danger to society. However, I do not like the idea of the prisoners having to fork over $$ to pay for the privilege of being locked up. IMO, this is like paying a court fee to be found not-guilty for a B.S. ticket. I realize the analogy is not quite on the same level, but it the best I could come up with at this moment.
If society wants these laws and prisons, let society pay for them through taxes.
 
2013-07-26 01:16:08 PM  

factoryconnection: Peki: You can make the same correlation with legalized abortion. Surprise! When there are fewer poor people, crime tends to go down.

It does for the US, but the abortion thing doesn't play out the same way in other countries, but all countries have had and then banned leaded gas and the correlation holds true.


I don't think any other country had legalized abortion to the extent the US had. In most other countries where it's legal, I think it's restricted to health of the mother and rape/incest. Feel free to prove me wrong.
 
2013-07-26 01:42:41 PM  
Buying your way out of genpop is a smart move.
 
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