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(WTKR)   North Carolina governor to sign bill allowing state health department to make 'temporary new rules' for the state's 31 abortion clinics as it sees fit. What could possibly go wrong?   (wtkr.com) divider line 141
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2013-07-26 08:32:57 AM
North Carolina seems like a state at an all you can derp restaurant, and it's savagely herping the buffet before it leaves, so that it can get its "money's worth."
 
2013-07-26 08:33:30 AM
Let's see how long this one lasts before the courts say "oh heck no"...

/Grabs popcorn
 
2013-07-26 08:36:06 AM
I am loving the Republican overreach.  Finding material for campaign ads is usually a little bit of a pain, but these days?

Wow.
 
2013-07-26 08:38:07 AM
Can Republicans be trusted to run any state as repectful adults?
 
2013-07-26 08:38:22 AM
Something about small government and bureaucrats getting between you and your doctor...
 
2013-07-26 08:39:07 AM
They went until 1 or 2 AM last night, really trying to cram in as much ridiculousness as they can before the session ends.

They passed a bill (which will require a second vote today because of fees included or some such) loosening restrictions on landfills, allowing for leaky garbage trucks, etc.  They passed a bill allowing the speaker pro tem to act as an agent of the state in place of the AG (i.e. if the AG decides not to fight a challenge to our gay marriage ban ammendment).  Plenty of ridiculous derp that hasn't gotten any national press because of the high profile election/voting derp and abortion derp.
 
2013-07-26 08:40:16 AM

clancifer: Can Republicans be trusted to run any state as repectful adults?


No.
 
2013-07-26 08:43:20 AM

clancifer: Can Republicans be trusted to run any state as repectful adults?


I dunno. This is probably pretty close to what the people who voted for them had in mind.
 
2013-07-26 08:45:07 AM
If it's a legitimate abortion clinic, the state health department will have a way of shutting the whole lot down.
 
2013-07-26 08:45:27 AM
Can we nuke NC from orbit yet?
 
2013-07-26 08:46:16 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: North Carolina seems like a state at an all you can derp restaurant, and it's savagely herping the buffet before it leaves, so that it can get its "money's worth."


This could apply to Texas, too.

/Texan
//flock the Lege
 
2013-07-26 08:47:09 AM

bonkmeist: They passed a bill allowing the speaker pro tem to act as an agent of the state in place of the AG (i.e. if the AG decides not to fight a challenge to our gay marriage ban ammendment).


How is this even legal?
 
2013-07-26 08:47:54 AM
They think they've won now, but isn't NC virtually split between the two parties in statewide elections? And I'm presuming the state health department is led by administrators appointed by the governor.
 
2013-07-26 08:48:00 AM

bonkmeist: They passed a bill (which will require a second vote today because of fees included or some such) loosening restrictions on landfills, allowing for leaky garbage trucks, etc. T


WHY?  Some shady trash magnate pay off a couple of them, I'm assuming?
 
2013-07-26 08:49:08 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: clancifer: Can Republicans be trusted to run any state as repectful adults?

No.


^ They're corporate shills and fanatics. Just look at the South; look at how poorly run and dysfunctional our state governments are. Texas has the benefit of natural resources to keep its tax collections above in-take, but imagine how much higher that ratio would be with a State gov that actually served the people, rather than serving them up on a platter for every corporate abuser that wants a piece.
 
2013-07-26 08:52:07 AM
Imagine the shiatstorm if these sorts of tactics were used to restrict 2nd amendment rights.
 
2013-07-26 08:52:10 AM

Wyalt Derp: If it's a legitimate abortion clinic, the state health department will have a way of shutting the whole lot down.


If its legitimate abortion clinic. I hear they have natural defenses to shut all that down themselves. If it is legitimate abortion clinic.
 
2013-07-26 08:52:18 AM

Satanic_Hamster: bonkmeist: They passed a bill (which will require a second vote today because of fees included or some such) loosening restrictions on landfills, allowing for leaky garbage trucks, etc. T

WHY?  Some shady trash magnate pay off a couple of them, I'm assuming?


Could be that, or it could be just to spite the liberals and environmentalists.

/could be both, too
 
2013-07-26 08:53:23 AM

tudorgurl: bonkmeist: They passed a bill allowing the speaker pro tem to act as an agent of the state in place of the AG (i.e. if the AG decides not to fight a challenge to our gay marriage ban ammendment).

How is this even legal?


The unfortunate thing is that until the courts say it is illegal, it is "the law" and thus it is legal.  That is the magic of the legislature.  They get to define (at first) what is and is not legal.  Until it is successfully challenged in court, it remains legal.  The legislature may even know/acknowledge that it is illegal but until someone/some group with legal standing comes up with enough money to mount an effective fight in court, it remains legal.
 
2013-07-26 08:53:52 AM
Republicans are like a smash and grab crime syndicate. They rush in steal/privatize everything that isn't bolted down and write ridiculous laws all before the public knows what is going on.
 
2013-07-26 08:54:22 AM
It's like a car wreck between two clown cars. You can't look away, and you get an uncomfortable laugh every time another clown pokes his head out of one of the cars. Then they start blaming each other for the crash and spraying each other with urine filled spritzers all the while stumbling about in over-sized shoes and ridiculously scary face paint.
 
2013-07-26 08:56:12 AM

tudorgurl: bonkmeist: They passed a bill allowing the speaker pro tem to act as an agent of the state in place of the AG (i.e. if the AG decides not to fight a challenge to our gay marriage ban ammendment).

How is this even legal?


Given that I'm pretty sure they've been ignoring the NC state constitution (arresting those that are silently protesting the bullshiat that's going on), I'm not sure they CARE that it's legal.
/One of the pastors at the  church I grew up in is among those who've been arrested.
/Go UCC!
 
2013-07-26 08:57:02 AM
Republicans are like psychopaths.  If you drop your defenses for even a moment, they'll grab the nearest sharp object and plunge it into your neck.  Tolerating their presence requires constant vigilance.
 
2013-07-26 08:57:57 AM

King Something: Satanic_Hamster: bonkmeist: They passed a bill (which will require a second vote today because of fees included or some such) loosening restrictions on landfills, allowing for leaky garbage trucks, etc. T

WHY?  Some shady trash magnate pay off a couple of them, I'm assuming?

Could be that, or it could be just to spite the liberals and environmentalists.

/could be both, too


Well they pretty much campaigned solely on jobs, and as we all know the answer to more jobs is always fewer regulations, so ta-da.

In actuality the answer to "Why are they destroying North Carolina?" is this:   But Easley! or But Perdue!  It is the NC republicans' version of but Bush.
 
2013-07-26 09:01:54 AM

tudorgurl: bonkmeist: They passed a bill allowing the speaker pro tem to act as an agent of the state in place of the AG (i.e. if the AG decides not to fight a challenge to our gay marriage ban ammendment).

How is this even legal?


It's not, and will be thrown out by the court, but that's never stopped them from trying.

/The Constitution is a Liberal Plant
 
2013-07-26 09:03:00 AM

King Something: Satanic_Hamster: bonkmeist: They passed a bill (which will require a second vote today because of fees included or some such) loosening restrictions on landfills, allowing for leaky garbage trucks, etc. T

WHY?  Some shady trash magnate pay off a couple of them, I'm assuming?

Could be that, or it could be just to spite the liberals and environmentalists.

/could be both, too


It's the latter. Wouldn't surprise me if they are working on a law banning any vehicles which get more than 20 mpg highway
 
2013-07-26 09:06:33 AM

PopularFront: Imagine the shiatstorm if these sorts of tactics were used to restrict 2nd amendment rights.


This farkedy fark this.
 
2013-07-26 09:06:47 AM

Lost Thought 00: It's the latter. Wouldn't surprise me if they are working on a law banning any vehicles which get more than 20 mpg highway


I think you're right.   They passed a law banning the use of scientific data on sea level rise when designing coastal policy.  That doesn't help anyone.  It doesn't provide a kick-back to a campaign donor or further industrial interests.  All it does is say "neener neener" and make it illegal to base coastal policy on reality, out of sheer spite.
 
2013-07-26 09:06:49 AM

bonkmeist: King Something: Satanic_Hamster: bonkmeist: They passed a bill (which will require a second vote today because of fees included or some such) loosening restrictions on landfills, allowing for leaky garbage trucks, etc. T

WHY?  Some shady trash magnate pay off a couple of them, I'm assuming?

Could be that, or it could be just to spite the liberals and environmentalists.

/could be both, too

Well they pretty much campaigned solely on jobs, and as we all know the answer to more jobs is always fewer regulations, so ta-da.

In actuality the answer to "Why are they destroying North Carolina?" is this:   But Easley! or But Perdue!  It is the NC republicans' version of but Bush.


I figure it's punishment for daring to vote for Obama in 2008.
 
2013-07-26 09:07:52 AM
Copy/paste from the last one of these threads.

In the N.C. Senate Republicans received 52.57% of the vote, yet control 66% (33 of 50) of all available seats.

In the N.C. House Republicans received 51.25% of the vote, yet control 64% (77 of 120) of all available seats.

The U.S. House results are by far the worst (not that it applies to the bullshiat that the general assembly has been pulling on us, but it is pretty indicative of a problem ). In U.S. House races, Republicans received just 48.75% of the vote yet control 70% (9 of 13) of available seats.

Send help, please.
 
2013-07-26 09:08:53 AM
Republicans are like punk dinosaurs. They wear ripped jeans and wife beaters and like to eat meat. No, wait. Republicans are like hot dogs. They get covered in chili and cheese. Crap, Im not good at this. Republicans are like a pinata. They're full of unhealthy stuff and need to get hit with sticks!
 
2013-07-26 09:11:10 AM

Robots are Strong: Copy/paste from the last one of these threads.

In the N.C. Senate Republicans received 52.57% of the vote, yet control 66% (33 of 50) of all available seats.

In the N.C. House Republicans received 51.25% of the vote, yet control 64% (77 of 120) of all available seats.

The U.S. House results are by far the worst (not that it applies to the bullshiat that the general assembly has been pulling on us, but it is pretty indicative of a problem ). In U.S. House races, Republicans received just 48.75% of the vote yet control 70% (9 of 13) of available seats.

Send help, please.


I will never forgive all the Democrats (not just North Carolina Democrats) who came out in droves in 2008, then sat out 2010 and allowed the GOP to torpedo the entire decade by giving them almost total control over redistricting.
 
2013-07-26 09:17:51 AM
So regulations on businesses is bad now?
 
2013-07-26 09:21:56 AM
I know asking for Republicans to rationally justify their actions about abortion legislation is asking the impossible. But, I am curious.

These restrictions, not just for this particular NC bill, but across the spectrum of anti-abortion bills generally require at least one of the following:
1) Mandatory ultrasound, which will often not be covered by insurance plans because it is not a medically necessary procedure in these instances, often with the additional requirement that the woman hear a physician describe what the ultrasound looks like and look at the picture
2) Mandatory waiting periods
3) Requiring a physician to lie to you about non-existent negative outcomes such as depression and/or breast cancer - things that have been thoroughly falsified for decades of medical and mental health research
4) Require a physician present at all times
5) Require a physician with admitting privileges to a local hospital
6) Prohibits abortions past certain arbitrary time limits, some of which are not only marked arbitrarily but subsequently defined arbitrarily (e.g. 20 weeks in a lot of bills, but Arizona tried to define 20 weeks of pregnancy as 20 weeks since her last period, which does not generally correspond to actual conception dates at all)

I'm only providing a brief list; a more complete list would be quite long. Now, all of these are pushed forward as, at least officially, designed to improve women's health. In what ways do any of these conceivably improve women's health? 1 and 2 punish women who want an abortion (financially, physically, and emotionally - it's basically tantamount to requiring women to be abused), 3 requires by law active deception on the part of a health care provider, 4 wastes a health care providers time that could be spent seeing other patients, 5 requires additional qualifications that are not presently required for damn near any other procedure (including the many that are more dangerous than abortion) one can get at a clinic, and 6 is simply arbitrary and vargue. None of these, and nor do any of the others not listed, do a goddamn thing to help women out or improve health care for women.

HOW THE F*CK IS THIS KIND OF TRANSPARENT LYING ACCEPTABLE?

Jesus f*cking Christ. It's this kind of blatant bullsh*t that makes me sympathize with people who want to enact second amendment solutions in response to government overreach.
 
2013-07-26 09:21:57 AM
Perhaps I'm crazy, but I always associated NC with academia and banks.  Where is all this derp coming from?
 
2013-07-26 09:23:05 AM

PopularFront: Imagine the shiatstorm if these sorts of tactics were used to restrict 2nd amendment rights.


I think it's time we start doing just that.
 
2013-07-26 09:23:45 AM

Saiga410: So regulations on businesses is bad now?


0/10
 
2013-07-26 09:23:48 AM

Vodka Zombie: I am loving the Republican overreach.  Finding material for campaign ads is usually a little bit of a pain, but these days?

Wow.


I'm picturing a musical of a bunch weird looking white men singing against regulating banks and such for the first 15 seconds and then all of them follow a woman into her OB/GYN appointment. During the exam they sing out instructions. A message appears stating "Who is really getting between you and your doctor?" This is followed by "Republicans: Don't Believe the Song and Dance." It looks better in my head than written out.
 
2013-07-26 09:24:17 AM

Saiga410: So regulations on businesses is bad now?


When the business is aborting future republicans it is!
 
2013-07-26 09:25:13 AM

Vodka Zombie: PopularFront: Imagine the shiatstorm if these sorts of tactics were used to restrict 2nd amendment rights.

I think it's time we start doing just that.


Let's start by requiring anyone who is carrying a concealed weapon to have a doctor with them at all times.
 
2013-07-26 09:25:16 AM
Yeah but libs said mean things about Sarah Palin, so isn't the REAL war on women coming from the left and furthemore comma?
 
2013-07-26 09:27:20 AM

MattStafford: Perhaps I'm crazy, but I always associated NC with academia and banks.  Where is all this derp coming from?


They're called Republicans, Matt.
 
2013-07-26 09:27:45 AM
"Republican governor of (insert state here) signs bill to ensure sex education in schools includes discussions about contraceptives in order to significantly alleviate the need for abortions" said no headline ever.

F*ck them with a rusty coat hanger.
 
2013-07-26 09:28:11 AM

Robots are Strong: Copy/paste from the last one of these threads.

In the N.C. Senate Republicans received 52.57% of the vote, yet control 66% (33 of 50) of all available seats.

In the N.C. House Republicans received 51.25% of the vote, yet control 64% (77 of 120) of all available seats.

The U.S. House results are by far the worst (not that it applies to the bullshiat that the general assembly has been pulling on us, but it is pretty indicative of a problem ). In U.S. House races, Republicans received just 48.75% of the vote yet control 70% (9 of 13) of available seats.

Send help, please.


You know why the Democrats won't fix the problem you describe?

Because the two-party system would be thoroughly undermined by a proportional representation electoral system. And it's better for the party to lose in some states than to have viable alternatives (plural) everywhere.
 
2013-07-26 09:30:08 AM

Heron: LouDobbsAwaaaay: clancifer: Can Republicans be trusted to run any state as repectful adults?

No.

^ They're corporate shills and fanatics. Just look at the South; look at how poorly run and dysfunctional our state governments are. Texas has the benefit of natural resources to keep its tax collections above in-take, but imagine how much higher that ratio would be with a State gov that actually served the people, rather than serving them up on a platter for every corporate abuser that wants a piece.


Texas has gone to the Saudi Arabian governance model.
Because George Dubya.
 
2013-07-26 09:30:08 AM

Saiga410: So regulations on businesses is bad now?


No, it has never been bad for Republicans who want to apply their morality on businesses or individuals.

But you knew that and decided to appear incapable of rational, intelligent thought instead.
 
2013-07-26 09:31:05 AM
You get what you voted for.

Those of you who voted rationally, sorry.  Move.  Other sane states will take you.
 
2013-07-26 09:33:08 AM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we nuke NC from orbit yet?


Don't give up on us just yet. We residents of NC are getting tired of this shiat. Normally I just vote, next election I will be actively campaigning.
 
2013-07-26 09:34:37 AM

tudorgurl: How is this even legal?


Lots of people have replied, but I'll say that north carolina has been dismantling executive power to place lots of powers that most governments conventionally consider executive into the hands of the general assembly for a while now.  No real veto, no discretionary budget, no lots of things.  That's all fine, until you start investing those same powers directly into the hands of a slightly different politician.  Then it's stupid.
 
2013-07-26 09:37:18 AM

Vodka Zombie: PopularFront: Imagine the shiatstorm if these sorts of tactics were used to restrict 2nd amendment rights.

I think it's time we start doing just that.


Good look getting the NC state legislature to even look at anything restricting gun rights.
 
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