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2013-07-26 02:52:54 AM
I actually liked The Butterfly Effect, and thought Ashton Kutcher did well in it.

/I realize I'm in a minority on that
 
2013-07-26 02:55:33 AM
Can we put at least a 20 year moratorium on reboots and remakes?  Please?
 
2013-07-26 03:31:58 AM

Frederick: I actually liked The Butterfly Effect, and thought Ashton Kutcher did well in it.

/I realize I'm in a minority on that


You're not alone, though.  I really liked...  Ok, that's not the right word for a movie that dealt with all the child abuse, fragility, and how many other horrible things.  But it was good, and certainly a decenly original film.  

That said, remake...
 
2013-07-26 03:55:08 AM
Wow, read my post.  It...  I blame alcohol.  

/hasn't been drinking, sadly
 
2013-07-26 06:50:00 AM

Frederick: I actually liked The Butterfly Effect, and thought Ashton Kutcher did well in it.

/I realize I'm in a minority on that


Nope. Ashton Kutcher is one of the greatest actors of this current generation, and Butterfly Effect was a smart sci-fi film.
 
2013-07-26 06:58:05 AM
I'm no Kutcher fan but I liked the Butterfly Effect. Why are they rebooting a movie less than a decade old? fark you, Hollywood.
 
2013-07-26 07:03:55 AM
Hopefully they use the alternate ending where a fetus commits suicide.
 
2013-07-26 07:06:36 AM
The original might be the second coming of Citizen Kane but the fact Kuchter McFarktard was in it guarantees I will NEVER see it.

That's my code.
 
2013-07-26 07:07:45 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Ashton Kutcher is one of the greatest actors of this current generation


You're not allowed to have opinions anymore.
 
2013-07-26 07:09:20 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Can we put at least a 20 year moratorium on reboots and remakes?  Please?


In the 30's era, The Maltese Falcon was made 3 times, with the third being Bogie's classic.

'Do overs' are not necessarily a bad thing. Or new.
 
2013-07-26 07:15:08 AM
"In the 30's era, The Maltese Falcon was made 3 times, with the third being Bogie's classic.

'Do overs' are not necessarily a bad thing. Or new."

Correlation does not imply causation.
 
2013-07-26 07:16:58 AM
I have such a crush on amy smart, I wish she would get better roles.
 
2013-07-26 07:21:44 AM

Kurmudgeon: "In the 30's era, The Maltese Falcon was made 3 times, with the third being Bogie's classic.

'Do overs' are not necessarily a bad thing. Or new."

Correlation does not imply causation.


Those words don't mean what you think they mean
 
2013-07-26 07:41:48 AM
I too enjoyed the film. It was smart, it was sad, and Kutcher was genuinely endearing. Too bad he's such a douche. Cast Jake Gyllenhall.
 
2013-07-26 07:45:39 AM
I liked the first butterfly effect movie. It offered a lot more to think about than most dramas.
 
2013-07-26 07:55:15 AM
who?
 
2013-07-26 08:04:37 AM
Guys, this thread exists in am alternate timeline with a shiattyer headline. Which one of you refused to appear in the mod's gut wrenching horrifying porno?
 
2013-07-26 08:09:25 AM
Are they going to have him kill himself in the womb again to end the movie? Because that wasn't stupid at all.
 
2013-07-26 08:17:33 AM
I think the Hulk movies win for the shortest time between reboots/remakes:
"Hulk" - 2003
"Incredible Hulk" - 2008

Poking around, I found that "Meet Me in Saint Louis" had three different version...1944, 1959, 1966. There's only seven years difference between the last two.

Oh wait! Poseidon Adventure. 1972, 2005, 2006!

And well, don't get me started on "Christmas Carol" adaption.

Hollywood, and really, almost all entertainment worlds,  has been been re-making source material since time began. I don't think that it's a big deal...if you don't want to see a movie, just don't see it.
 
2013-07-26 08:19:28 AM
They should get that one dude from that show where it was the 1970's to play in it. He also had a show on MTV. Can't remember his name.
 
2013-07-26 08:27:25 AM

Bender The Offender: Guys, this thread exists in am alternate timeline with a shiattyer headline. Which one of you refused to appear in the mod's gut wrenching horrifying porno?


They wanted a donkey, and I just don't think that's cool
 
2013-07-26 08:28:13 AM

snowshovel: I think the Hulk movies win for the shortest time between reboots/remakes:
"Hulk" - 2003
"Incredible Hulk" - 2008

Poking around, I found that "Meet Me in Saint Louis" had three different version...1944, 1959, 1966. There's only seven years difference between the last two.

Oh wait! Poseidon Adventure. 1972, 2005, 2006!

And well, don't get me started on "Christmas Carol" adaption.

Hollywood, and really, almost all entertainment worlds,  has been been re-making source material since time began. I don't think that it's a big deal...if you don't want to see a movie, just don't see it.


What about Spider Man?
 
2013-07-26 08:31:40 AM
I enjoyed the butterfly effect also. I'm not generally an Ashton fan but he was very good in that 70s show.

I still don't think it needs a reboot.
 
2013-07-26 08:39:07 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Bender The Offender: Guys, this thread exists in am alternate timeline with a shiattyer headline. Which one of you refused to appear in the mod's gut wrenching horrifying porno?

They wanted a donkey, and I just don't think that's cool


Stooooooooooooltz!
 
2013-07-26 08:53:27 AM
I really liked that movie actually.  He really seemed desperate and alone as all of his attempts to resolve his own personal issues while keeping together a group of people who just weren't meant to be successfully integrated fell apart.  His resolution was certainly a LOT less grim than suicide in the womb, but I don't think it really hurt the story, since every scenerio he went back into was itself incredibly grim.  He kills people in prison, he kills Tommy, he causes chubby friend to kill Tommy, he gets all of his limbs blown off and the stress induced smoking gives his mother cancer.  I mean did he need to go back and commit infanticide on himself to make it a REALLY dark movie?

A lot of critics apparently panned it because the mechanisms involved in a guy traveling back into the gaps in his childhood self's memories were too fuzzy.  Uh... kay.  And frankly I was impressed by how all the different actors played the same characters over and over again but totally different.  They were pretty convincing.

Kaile commits suicide, Kaile is a prostitute, Kaile is in a sorority, Kaile is in a healthy relationship with your childhood friend.  Kutcher wasn't GREAT, but he was serviceable, and his childhood incarnation did a really nice job I felt.
 
2013-07-26 09:05:08 AM

internut scholar: They should get that one dude from that show where it was the 1970's to play in it. He also had a show on MTV. Can't remember his name.


Kurtwood Smith. Good idea, but I think he's just a bit too old
 
2013-07-26 09:06:50 AM

Super_pope: I really liked that movie actually.  He really seemed desperate and alone as all of his attempts to resolve his own personal issues while keeping together a group of people who just weren't meant to be successfully integrated fell apart.  His resolution was certainly a LOT less grim than suicide in the womb, but I don't think it really hurt the story, since every scenerio he went back into was itself incredibly grim.  He kills people in prison, he kills Tommy, he causes chubby friend to kill Tommy, he gets all of his limbs blown off and the stress induced smoking gives his mother cancer.  I mean did he need to go back and commit infanticide on himself to make it a REALLY dark movie?

A lot of critics apparently panned it because the mechanisms involved in a guy traveling back into the gaps in his childhood self's memories were too fuzzy.  Uh... kay.  And frankly I was impressed by how all the different actors played the same characters over and over again but totally different.  They were pretty convincing.

Kaile commits suicide, Kaile is a prostitute, Kaile is in a sorority, Kaile is in a healthy relationship with your childhood friend.  Kutcher wasn't GREAT, but he was serviceable, and his childhood incarnation did a really nice job I felt.


What I liked the best is that after you've seen the movie, you realize that every one of his black outs was actually when he went back in time to "correct" things.
 
2013-07-26 09:20:09 AM

Aristocles: snowshovel: I think the Hulk movies win for the shortest time between reboots/remakes:
"Hulk" - 2003
"Incredible Hulk" - 2008

Poking around, I found that "Meet Me in Saint Louis" had three different version...1944, 1959, 1966. There's only seven years difference between the last two.

Oh wait! Poseidon Adventure. 1972, 2005, 2006!

And well, don't get me started on "Christmas Carol" adaption.

Hollywood, and really, almost all entertainment worlds,  has been been re-making source material since time began. I don't think that it's a big deal...if you don't want to see a movie, just don't see it.

What about Spider Man?


First Spiderman was 2002...the reboot was 2012. That's like...FOREVER.

Not having seen reboot, the thing that prevents me from watching it is, strangely, the whole meta-I-know-why-it-was-done backstory of the production. I probably would be interested in seeing it if it was a continuation of the "next spiderman adventure". ala how James Bond works. But I really didn't see a need to sit through a re-telling of his origin story...again...which I've known tangentally via comics, and via three iterations of animated Spiderman cartoons growing up. Clearly, there are more than enough people in the world who weren't hung up on this as much as me, however, and that's fine.

I guess that's one of the things that I really respected from "Batman Begins". Sure, it's a reboot, but it really focused on a part of Batman's back story that I knew nothing about. "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" was another movie that I found fascinating in this regard. It did a really wonderful job of sneaking in bits and pieces of the original movie (as opposed to the Tim Burton remake, which was another 10 year difference up to "Rise...").

Anyway, I don't think that franchise reboots  (or in this case, a Butterfly Effect remake) are bad as a general rule. Like anything else, they can be done well or poorly. Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing more quiet, relatively forgotten films like Butterfly Effect being redone, if they are redone well.
 
2013-07-26 09:20:19 AM
My mom's going to be pissed
 
2013-07-26 09:31:50 AM

snowshovel: I think the Hulk movies win for the shortest time between reboots/remakes:
"Hulk" - 2003
"Incredible Hulk" - 2008

Poking around, I found that "Meet Me in Saint Louis" had three different version...1944, 1959, 1966. There's only seven years difference between the last two.

Oh wait! Poseidon Adventure. 1972, 2005, 2006!

And well, don't get me started on "Christmas Carol" adaption.

Hollywood, and really, almost all entertainment worlds,  has been been re-making source material since time began. I don't think that it's a big deal...if you don't want to see a movie, just don't see it.


If you include American remakes of foreign movies, Three men and a baby (1987 - Trois hommes et un coufin, 1985), True Lies (1994 - La Totale, 1991) and Point of No return (1993 - Nikita, 1990) all beat Hulk by a long shot.
 
2013-07-26 09:52:15 AM
It was actually a good movie. Especially the farked up alternate ending where Ashton Kutcher travels back to his mother's womb and kills himself to stop the time travel contamination. But Christ, Hollywood, stop being so Goddamned lazy with all the remakes.

It's ironic that before the mid-80s when people generally didn't have a way to watch a movie once their theatrical release ran out, there were a lot less remakes of old movies than there are now.
 
2013-07-26 09:58:20 AM

Flab: snowshovel: I think the Hulk movies win for the shortest time between reboots/remakes:
"Hulk" - 2003
"Incredible Hulk" - 2008

Poking around, I found that "Meet Me in Saint Louis" had three different version...1944, 1959, 1966. There's only seven years difference between the last two.

Oh wait! Poseidon Adventure. 1972, 2005, 2006!

And well, don't get me started on "Christmas Carol" adaption.

Hollywood, and really, almost all entertainment worlds,  has been been re-making source material since time began. I don't think that it's a big deal...if you don't want to see a movie, just don't see it.

If you include American remakes of foreign movies, Three men and a baby (1987 - Trois hommes et un coufin, 1985), True Lies (1994 - La Totale, 1991) and Point of No return (1993 - Nikita, 1990) all beat Hulk by a long shot.


Also Let the Right One In 2008 and Let Me in 2010
 
2013-07-26 10:11:05 AM

Frederick: I actually liked The Butterfly Effect, and thought Ashton Kutcher did well in it.

/I realize I'm in a minority on that


I didn't want to watch it because of Kutcher.  It still remains the only Kutcher film that I enjoy.  I thought it was all done very well, and would've made for a hell of a novel (no, not the film novelization).
 
2013-07-26 10:16:21 AM
Seems like a lot of people here like the original, I did too.  What I didn't like was the studio ending.  The alternate ending made much more sense especially given things that were set up earlier in the movie and never touched on again.
 
2013-07-26 10:17:51 AM

Zombie Eater: I didn't want to watch it because of Kutcher. It still remains the only Kutcher film that I enjoy. I thought it was all done very well, and would've made for a hell of a novel (no, not the film novelization).


I liked him in A Lot Like Love, which for me was a much better movie than I expected. I was expecting a shiat sandwich, and actually in reality got a pretty decent hamburger. Not the best burger mind you, but good enough.
 
2013-07-26 10:23:12 AM
The Wizard of Oz:
1910, 1921, 1925, 1933, 1939
Other Oz movies:
1914, 1932, 1969, 1974, 1978, 1985, 2013
Upcoming Oz movies: 4 in the works.
 
2013-07-26 10:23:56 AM

Frederick: I actually liked The Butterfly Effect, and thought Ashton Kutcher did well in it.

/I realize I'm in a minority on that


Nah... I liked it too.
 
2013-07-26 10:40:38 AM
I've only seen the womb suicide ending. I was vaguely aware of another, but have no idea what it is.
 
2013-07-26 11:00:29 AM

Frederick: I actually liked The Butterfly Effect, and thought Ashton Kutcher did well in it.

/I realize I'm in a minority on that


I liked it, thought he did a good job.  That said, since when does it make sense to start rebooting 9 year old films?
 
2013-07-26 11:04:15 AM

Frederick: I actually liked The Butterfly Effect, and thought Ashton Kutcher did well in it.

/I realize I'm in a minority on that


What? No, majority of people liked it, and were generally surprised that Kutcher was able to pull it off. Been downhill ever since, so it became more of a fluke.
 
2013-07-26 11:05:41 AM
I don't get the Kutcher hate, and Butterfly Effect was a solid movie.

Ashton would pretty much be a typical farker if you take away his celebrity, better than most.

He contemplated suicide as a teen to save his brother's, who needed a heart transplant, life. He studied Biochemical Engineering at Iowa and was lucky enough to have been found on campus by a modeling recruiter (this is where he is unlike most other Farkers as he is not a troll). The guy got to play a stoner on that 70s show for years, married a sought after Cougar and nailed Mila Kunis. Plus he created a show where he trolls celebrities and is a millionaire that did not come from wealth.

What about him is scorn worthy?
 
2013-07-26 11:13:10 AM

Frederick: I actually liked The Butterfly Effect, and thought Ashton Kutcher did well in it.

/I realize I'm in a minority on that


Ditto.
 
2013-07-26 11:13:20 AM
I liked the movie IN SPITE of Kutcher. The whole time I was watching it I was thinking that it would be a great movie if only it had a solid actor in the lead. Imagine a young Eric Stoltz (Who STOLE the movie) In Kuthcer's  role and you will see what I mean.
 
2013-07-26 11:14:28 AM

KingKauff: Super_pope: I really liked that movie actually.  He really seemed desperate and alone as all of his attempts to resolve his own personal issues while keeping together a group of people who just weren't meant to be successfully integrated fell apart.  His resolution was certainly a LOT less grim than suicide in the womb, but I don't think it really hurt the story, since every scenerio he went back into was itself incredibly grim.  He kills people in prison, he kills Tommy, he causes chubby friend to kill Tommy, he gets all of his limbs blown off and the stress induced smoking gives his mother cancer.  I mean did he need to go back and commit infanticide on himself to make it a REALLY dark movie?

A lot of critics apparently panned it because the mechanisms involved in a guy traveling back into the gaps in his childhood self's memories were too fuzzy.  Uh... kay.  And frankly I was impressed by how all the different actors played the same characters over and over again but totally different.  They were pretty convincing.

Kaile commits suicide, Kaile is a prostitute, Kaile is in a sorority, Kaile is in a healthy relationship with your childhood friend.  Kutcher wasn't GREAT, but he was serviceable, and his childhood incarnation did a really nice job I felt.

What I liked the best is that after you've seen the movie, you realize that every one of his black outs was actually when he went back in time to "correct" things.


It wasn't a terrible movie, but I didn't think it was anything great either.  I did like the concept, but as with any film centered around time travel/alternate universes, it's subject to plot holes.  And there were some pretty big ones from what I can remember.  The alternate ending just seemed like it was "dark" for the sake of being dark.

That said, a remake wouldn't be a bad thing if they could solidify the plot a bit more.
 
2013-07-26 11:15:50 AM
Wait, so I'm in the minority being someone who thought the movie was a pseudo-intellectual peice of crap? Ashton Kutcher wasn't awful, but holy shiat the plot. I did not enjoy it.
 
2013-07-26 11:16:11 AM
Count me in on really liking "The Butterfly Effect".

Really, my only problem with the movie was that the lead really needed to be a much better actor. But I think that was a weakness (or oddity?) of the script more than a weakness of Kutcher.

I'd actually like to re-watch it now. Thanks, Fark!
 
2013-07-26 11:25:47 AM
I thought the womb suicide was EXCELLENT. no idea why they wussed out with the theatrical version.
 
2013-07-26 11:54:16 AM
Great film. Went into it not expecting much and was well impressed.

Eric Stoltz was nicely creepy as the home-video-enthusiast-incest-pedo dad.
 
2013-07-26 12:12:46 PM

Welfare Peanut Butter: Wait, so I'm in the minority being someone who thought the movie was a pseudo-intellectual peice of crap? Ashton Kutcher wasn't awful, but holy shiat the plot. I did not enjoy it.


Seriously, I didn't know there was so much love for this movie. The plot holes and character stupidity are Prometheus level bad.
 
2013-07-26 12:14:45 PM

t3knomanser: I've only seen the womb suicide ending. I was vaguely aware of another, but have no idea what it is.


He flashes back to the birthday party and tells her he hates her and never wants to see her again.  Their threads don't cross again until they're adults and have one of those "Sorry to have bumped into you on the street" starry eyed moments.

Womb suicide ending > grumpy birthday party ending.

I liked the movie with the theatrical ending.  I really liked it with the directors cut (womb suicide).
 
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