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2013-07-25 11:57:04 PM  
Those exact same flyers were being passed out here in Connecticut a few weeks ago by some group calling themselves the United Klans of America. Now how does it work, is there still like a central KKK office handing out directives to local franchises, or is the Klan of 2013 just a bunch of white trash assholes wearing the Confederate Flag and adopting the letters KKK as though it gives their insanity some sort of credibility?

It seems to me like if you really wanted people to listen to your views on racial, ethnic, or religious superiority, and take them seriously, you should probably avoid using the Confederate Flag, the letters KKK, or the swastika altogether. These things all have a pretty negative conotation amongst the public, perhaps it's time to adopt a new symbol for your hate group? Maybe one that doesn't remind people of slavery, lynchings, or Adolf Hitler?
 
2013-07-26 12:06:35 AM  

spman: Those exact same flyers were being passed out here in Connecticut a few weeks ago by some group calling themselves the United Klans of America. Now how does it work, is there still like a central KKK office handing out directives to local franchises, or is the Klan of 2013 just a bunch of white trash assholes wearing the Confederate Flag and adopting the letters KKK as though it gives their insanity some sort of credibility?

It seems to me like if you really wanted people to listen to your views on racial, ethnic, or religious superiority, and take them seriously, you should probably avoid using the Confederate Flag, the letters KKK, or the swastika altogether. These things all have a pretty negative conotation amongst the public, perhaps it's time to adopt a new symbol for your hate group? Maybe one that doesn't remind people of slavery, lynchings, or Adolf Hitler?


From what I understand the Klan has pretty much decentralized and is now made up of mostly independent factions.  Apparently they don't do a whole lot more than recruit these days and only manage a meager turn out for parades and protests.

The goal of the fliers isn't to get you to listen to their views - they realize on some level that rational people aren't interested.  They want to catch any die-hard racists they may have missed so that they can get them involved, and at the same time terrify and intimidate and minority families that happen to receive the message.
 
2013-07-26 12:15:50 AM  

spman: It seems to me like if you really wanted people to listen to your views on racial, ethnic, or religious superiority, and take them seriously, you should probably avoid using the Confederate Flag, the letters KKK, or the swastika altogether. These things all have a pretty negative conotation amongst the public, perhaps it's time to adopt a new symbol for your hate group? Maybe one that doesn't remind people of slavery, lynchings, or Adolf Hitler?


Those are pretty powerful marketing tools for like-minded individuals.

For everybody else, they already do have some more subtle icons:
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-26 12:59:45 AM  
I expected the wake of the Zimmerman verdict would result in a resurgence for the Klan.
 
2013-07-26 01:50:25 AM  
The KKK appeals only to neatherthals.  Any racist with a hint of intelligence prefers to be more mainstream.  Like working for the Heritage Foundation or as a staffer for a southern senator.
 
2013-07-26 02:54:43 AM  
Racist idiots, another reason why I support the second amendment. If they pulled that shiat here I swear to God I'd arm and pay to have my Mexican-American neighbors trained to use firearms. A real neighborhood watch. You're not stringing up or even intimidating my friends.
 
2013-07-26 02:57:30 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: From what I understand the Klan has pretty much decentralized and is now made up of mostly independent factions.  Apparently they don't do a whole lot more than recruit these days and only manage a meager turn out for parades and protests.


I haven't seen a Klansman since I lived in Alabama in the 90s (when they still held regular parades and stuff, probably still do knowing Alabama) but as I remember even then it was just random groups of hicks picking up the name and pulling out their daddy's robes to play dressup in the garage with their buddies. I don't think they have a national leader or anything.
 
2013-07-26 03:02:28 AM  

violentsalvation: Racist idiots, another reason why I support the second amendment. If they pulled that shiat here I swear to God I'd arm and pay to have my Mexican-American neighbors trained to use firearms. A real neighborhood watch. You're not stringing up or even intimidating my friends.


Dropping of flyers, especially if they don't contain any overt threats, would be protected by the 1st.  Now if they take it beyond that and actually threaten, vandalize, or physically intimidate someone, by all means have at them.
 
2013-07-26 03:23:37 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: violentsalvation: Racist idiots, another reason why I support the second amendment. If they pulled that shiat here I swear to God I'd arm and pay to have my Mexican-American neighbors trained to use firearms. A real neighborhood watch. You're not stringing up or even intimidating my friends.

Dropping of flyers, especially if they don't contain any overt threats, would be protected by the 1st.  Now if they take it beyond that and actually threaten, vandalize, or physically intimidate someone, by all means have at them.


I respect their rights entirely.
 
2013-07-26 03:28:59 AM  
The KKK has always been run by idiots.

Back in the day they were infiltrated to the very top by the producers of the Superman radio program to gather some facts for a Superman vs the Klan radio play. They used the real names and passwords and such. Difficulty level: 3/10

So the Klan changed up everything. Their security was still childishly easy to penetrate.
 
2013-07-26 05:26:49 AM  
s13.postimage.org
Ever vigilant.
 
2013-07-26 05:28:35 AM  
The KKK took my baby away. They took her away, away from me.
 
2013-07-26 05:29:41 AM  
The Klan would significantly increase it's membership if they gave out free bags of Skittles to new recruits.
 
2013-07-26 05:32:02 AM  
Hmm, I'm sensing some negativity towards these guys, maybe they could do with a rebranding?
Change the name to something less charged, maybe K³ would help.
As for the robes, well I'm sure they're an absolute nightmare to keep clean even with modern detergents so I propose they all wear Speedos, cover themselves in butter and take overdose quantities of fortified psychedelics and have at it in an empty hot-tub with some poisonous snake helmets and hot-coals enemas...
Oh, that got weird. I need to rethink my proposal.
 
2013-07-26 05:32:14 AM  

spman: Now how does it work, is there still like a central KKK office handing out directives to local franchises, or is the Klan of 2013 just a bunch of white trash assholes wearing the Confederate Flag and adopting the letters KKK as though it gives their insanity some sort of credibility?


They wanted to build a central headquarters but were forced to abandon the idea when it came down to discussing the name.

Weren't they livid to learn that "The White House" was already taken.
 
2013-07-26 05:33:03 AM  

gilgigamesh: I expected the wake of the Zimmerman verdict would result in a resurgence for the Klan.


So, the klan likes Hispanics now. Got it.
 
2013-07-26 05:33:31 AM  

doglover: The KKK has always been run by idiots.

Back in the day they were infiltrated to the very top by the producers of the Superman radio program to gather some facts for a Superman vs the Klan radio play. They used the real names and passwords and such. Difficulty level: 3/10

So the Klan changed up everything. Their security was still childishly easy to penetrate.


Have you seen the types of people the Klan attracts? There may be a few at the top that may be of average to above average intelligence, but the majority of their members have always been idiots. You have to be pretty dumb not to realize what they preach is nonsense. For these types of people you have to keep things pretty simple.
 
2013-07-26 05:34:40 AM  

gilgigamesh: I expected the wake of the Zimmerman verdict would result in a resurgence for the Klan.


please. all 4 of them?
 
2013-07-26 05:35:19 AM  
i43.tinypic.com
 
2013-07-26 05:35:24 AM  
emptysuit.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-26 05:39:40 AM  
media1.break.com

Who you gonna call?
 
2013-07-26 05:40:06 AM  
Because the previous 'neighborhood watch' program in Springfield worked out so well..

s10.postimg.org
 
2013-07-26 05:46:05 AM  
I'm sure retarded white supremacist skin heads (who apparently don't understand the Jamaican roots of that movement) are way more relevant and dangerous than the KKK.
 
2013-07-26 05:46:43 AM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-07-26 05:48:58 AM  
White People Yay!!! :D

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2013-07-26 05:51:23 AM  

gilgigamesh: I expected the wake of the Zimmerman verdict would result in a resurgence for the Klan.


As a resident if Springfield that has seen one of these, they were passing them out several weeks ago. So, before the verdict. Maybe they were just trying to get ahead of the hate curve?
 
2013-07-26 05:55:21 AM  

TheJoe03: I'm sure retarded white supremacist skin heads (who apparently don't understand the Jamaican roots of that movement)


Skinheads aren't rooted in Jamaica.  They're rooted in marketing textbooks.  That's why skinheads are invariably shallow people with no discernible identity other than the one that they bought into.

/but really, skinheads are rooted in England.  The only reason Jamaica comes up is that mods liked rudeboy clothes and ska.  It's like saying swing dance was rooted in Mexico because Chicanos wore zoot suits.
 
2013-07-26 05:55:31 AM  

Bucky Katt: The KKK appeals only to neatherthals.  Any racist with a hint of intelligence prefers to be more mainstream.  Like working for the Heritage Foundation or as a staffer for a southern senator.


Or working for Rand Paul.
 
2013-07-26 05:55:53 AM  
Have a nice day!
 
2013-07-26 05:56:26 AM  

PaulRB: Bucky Katt: The KKK appeals only to neatherthals.  Any racist with a hint of intelligence prefers to be more mainstream.  Like working for the Heritage Foundation or as a staffer for a southern senator.

Or working for Rand Paul.


Sorry, just realized Rand Paul was a southern senator (I still find that shocking).
 
2013-07-26 05:57:18 AM  
i1345.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-26 06:00:37 AM  

Tumunga: gilgigamesh: I expected the wake of the Zimmerman verdict would result in a resurgence for the Klan.

So, the klan likes Hispanics now. Got it.


Don't be obtuse, the Zimmerman verdict and everything about the trial (minus Zim actually being a white guy) was a victory for them. It played to their confirmation bias that there are dangerous young black men out attacking law abiding citizens and that the media and government are both complicit in demonizing those who would lawfully defend themselves. When Zimmerman was found not guilty it was like their "IT'S HAPPENING" moment and you saw them (here on Fark too) start to come out of the woodwork with more bold racist sentiments not related to the trial itself.

No one is trying to make a guilt by association argument that just because you're a Zimmerman supporter you're in league with the Klan or inherently racist yourself, but if you can't see why it put the jump back in white supremacist's steps you're being silly.

/I apologize in advance for contributing to this thread derailment
 
2013-07-26 06:04:39 AM  

thamike: /but really, skinheads are rooted in England.


I get that, you understand there are Jamaicans in England, right?

/rude boy!
 
2013-07-26 06:06:59 AM  

TheJoe03: thamike: /but really, skinheads are rooted in England.

I get that, you understand there are Jamaicans in England, right?

/rude boy!


Yes?
 
2013-07-26 06:09:50 AM  

thamike: Yes?


I'm saying that skinhead culture is largely (or was) based on Jamaican culture and it's hilarious a pro-white racist faction became the driving force.
 
2013-07-26 06:31:52 AM  
FTFA: The notice bore the name of the Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

SPLITTERS!
 
2013-07-26 06:49:13 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: From what I understand the Klan has pretty much decentralized and is now made up of mostly independent factions. Apparently they don't do a whole lot more than recruit these days and only manage a meager turn out for parades and protests.


That was always ultimately what did them in. Each little group of local idiots was never really that well connected to the other local groups of idiots. They only ever had a semblance of national organization.

You have to understand, people that hateful are never going to get along in significantly large groups as each one thinks they know better.
 
2013-07-26 06:55:31 AM  
Right up there and just as powerful as the  UFOlogist community.
www.ufoevidence.org
 
2013-07-26 07:00:11 AM  

gilgigamesh: I expected the wake of the Zimmerman verdict would result in a resurgence for the Klan.


Yeah, pretty much.  With all the idiots turning the event into a race issue (including the farking president), this isn't really surprising.
 
2013-07-26 07:03:17 AM  

Xenomech: Yeah, pretty much.  With all the idiots turning the event into a race issue (including the farking president), this isn't really surprising.


Anyone that actually knows people of various races knew this wouldn't ever become a race riot, no matter how much boomers and old people wanted there to be one. Get real.
 
2013-07-26 07:04:10 AM  

YoOjo: Hmm, I'm sensing some negativity towards these guys, maybe they could do with a rebranding?
Change the name to something less charged, maybe K³ would help.



The Klan formally known as Ku Klux perhaps?
 
2013-07-26 07:04:45 AM  
I wonder if those Klan robes are flammable.

Oh, cool, there's a 1-800 number I can call and summon some of these besheeted weirdos to my neighborhood? Cool. Might finally be able to answer that question.
 
2013-07-26 07:08:41 AM  

thoughtless: Tumunga: gilgigamesh: I expected the wake of the Zimmerman verdict would result in a resurgence for the Klan.

So, the klan likes Hispanics now. Got it.

Don't be obtuse, the Zimmerman verdict and everything about the trial (minus Zim actually being a white guy) was a victory for them. It played to their confirmation bias that there are dangerous young black men out attacking law abiding citizens and that the media and government are both complicit in demonizing those who would lawfully defend themselves. When Zimmerman was found not guilty it was like their "IT'S HAPPENING" moment and you saw them (here on Fark too) start to come out of the woodwork with more bold racist sentiments not related to the trial itself.

No one is trying to make a guilt by association argument that just because you're a Zimmerman supporter you're in league with the Klan or inherently racist yourself, but if you can't see why it put the jump back in white supremacist's steps you're being silly.

/I apologize in advance for contributing to this thread derailment


Well, both the media and the government did demonize a man who lawfully defended himself, so if what you're saying is true then they did get it right on that point didn't they?
 
2013-07-26 07:23:44 AM  

ChaosStar: YoOjo: Hmm, I'm sensing some negativity towards these guys, maybe they could do with a rebranding?
Change the name to something less charged, maybe K³ would help.


The Klan formally known as Ku Klux perhaps?


The Klanashidans?
 
2013-07-26 07:33:17 AM  
Practicing for get out the vote efforts for teabag candidates.
 
2013-07-26 07:41:03 AM  

thoughtless: Tumunga: gilgigamesh: I expected the wake of the Zimmerman verdict would result in a resurgence for the Klan.

So, the klan likes Hispanics now. Got it.

Don't be obtuse, the Zimmerman verdict and everything about the trial (minus Zim actually being a white guy) was a victory for them. It played to their confirmation bias that there are dangerous young black men out attacking law abiding citizens and that the media and government are both complicit in demonizing those who would lawfully defend themselves. When Zimmerman was found not guilty it was like their "IT'S HAPPENING" moment and you saw them (here on Fark too) start to come out of the woodwork with more bold racist sentiments not related to the trial itself.

No one is trying to make a guilt by association argument that just because you're a Zimmerman supporter you're in league with the Klan or inherently racist yourself, but if you can't see why it put the jump back in white supremacist's steps you're being silly.

/I apologize in advance for contributing to this thread derailment


There are dangerous young black men (as well as dangerous young hispanics, whites and asians), but in my city at least they mostly attack each other, not law abiding citizens.
 
2013-07-26 07:44:49 AM  
ChaosStar:

Well, both the media and the government did demonize a man who lawfully defended himself, so if what you're saying is true then they did get it right on that point didn't they?

Yup then they used the media's attempts to portray Zimmerman as white and the race riots they were sure would come as boogeyman talking points. The verdict was sound and the media/prosecutors farked up big time so the neo-nazi types were elated to use this as a "we told you so" moment.
 
2013-07-26 07:50:37 AM  
emptysuit.files.wordpress.com

Hello! It's great to be back at the Apollo! I brought my friend, Klanny here. Say hello to the nice people, Klanny!

Klanny: Sure are a lot of ....

Hahaha! Don't mind Klanny. He was lost at the dry cleaners for a week.

Klanny: Should have never taken me to an Asian dry cleaners, dummy. What a bunch of stupid...

Yes. Yes. But you're back now, right Klanny?

Klanny: Whiter than ever! There really is an ancient Chinese secret. They won't share it with the rest of the world, those stubborn slant e....

Okay Klanny. Need to move on. Do you want to sing a song while I drink some water?

Klanny: Sure! They say people are people and everyone's the same. But there's an ugly bunch of people that I hate just the same. These are the people that I'll name.... n....

(Coughing/spitting water) Well, that's all we have time for.

Klanny: Zimmerman! ZIMMERMAN! ZIMMERMAN!
Good night Apollo!
 
2013-07-26 07:53:37 AM  
I don't know what to say for words on that part on how much hate and discontent can just keep on going.

Ouch... my brain.

But good for you, English manglin' guy. It's nice to see even the hillbillies pushing back against racists. Now if only we could get through to the GOP.
 
2013-07-26 07:57:54 AM  

YoOjo: ChaosStar: YoOjo: Hmm, I'm sensing some negativity towards these guys, maybe they could do with a rebranding?
Change the name to something less charged, maybe K³ would help.


The Klan formally known as Ku Klux perhaps?

The Klanashidans?


A Klan named Ku Klux?
 
2013-07-26 08:00:33 AM  
Bucky Katt:Any racist with a hint of intelligence prefers to be more mainstream.  Like working for the Heritage Foundation or as a staffer for a southern senator.

It's funny because it's true.
 
2013-07-26 08:02:32 AM  

ChaosStar: thoughtless: Tumunga: gilgigamesh: I expected the wake of the Zimmerman verdict would result in a resurgence for the Klan.

So, the klan likes Hispanics now. Got it.

Don't be obtuse, the Zimmerman verdict and everything about the trial (minus Zim actually being a white guy) was a victory for them. It played to their confirmation bias that there are dangerous young black men out attacking law abiding citizens and that the media and government are both complicit in demonizing those who would lawfully defend themselves. When Zimmerman was found not guilty it was like their "IT'S HAPPENING" moment and you saw them (here on Fark too) start to come out of the woodwork with more bold racist sentiments not related to the trial itself.

No one is trying to make a guilt by association argument that just because you're a Zimmerman supporter you're in league with the Klan or inherently racist yourself, but if you can't see why it put the jump back in white supremacist's steps you're being silly.

/I apologize in advance for contributing to this thread derailment

Well, both the media and the government did demonize a man who lawfully defended himself, so if what you're saying is true then they did get it right on that point didn't they?


Just because he was found not guilty and you feel he did nothing wrong does not infact make it so.

any responsible adult with a minimum of common sense knows george acted like an idiot every step of the way that night. And there was never any need for him to even leave the house that night.

The funny thing being had george been sent to jail, even for a short amount of time then he would be able to lead a far safer and somewhat normal life. Atleast compared to the absolute paranoia Im sure he lives with now.
 
2013-07-26 08:16:19 AM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: ChaosStar: thoughtless: Tumunga: gilgigamesh: I expected the wake of the Zimmerman verdict would result in a resurgence for the Klan.

So, the klan likes Hispanics now. Got it.

Don't be obtuse, the Zimmerman verdict and everything about the trial (minus Zim actually being a white guy) was a victory for them. It played to their confirmation bias that there are dangerous young black men out attacking law abiding citizens and that the media and government are both complicit in demonizing those who would lawfully defend themselves. When Zimmerman was found not guilty it was like their "IT'S HAPPENING" moment and you saw them (here on Fark too) start to come out of the woodwork with more bold racist sentiments not related to the trial itself.

No one is trying to make a guilt by association argument that just because you're a Zimmerman supporter you're in league with the Klan or inherently racist yourself, but if you can't see why it put the jump back in white supremacist's steps you're being silly.

/I apologize in advance for contributing to this thread derailment

Well, both the media and the government did demonize a man who lawfully defended himself, so if what you're saying is true then they did get it right on that point didn't they?

Just because he was found not guilty and you feel he did nothing wrong does not infact make it so.

any responsible adult with a minimum of common sense knows george acted like an idiot every step of the way that night. And there was never any need for him to even leave the house that night.

The funny thing being had george been sent to jail, even for a short amount of time then he would be able to lead a far safer and somewhat normal life. Atleast compared to the absolute paranoia Im sure he lives with now.


Ok first, you completely missed the mark on the original point, and continue to threadjack. Way to go.

Second, I'm a responsible adult, with a few sanctions both at the state and federal level, that lend some weight to that claim, and I don't feel he acted like an idiot at all.
In fact, I'll go so far to say I would have done everything exactly the way he did with the exception of not letting TM get within arms length.

Third, GZ didn't have to have a need to leave his house as we live in a free society, but in this case he did have a need. He was going to the store.

Thanks for playing.
 
2013-07-26 08:25:45 AM  
Haven't they always used that slogan? Like since the before time, the long long ago?

We skimmed through "Birth of a Nation" in one of those semiotics college courses. I'm pretty sure that was being used at least as early as the 1910s.
 
2013-07-26 08:46:02 AM  

ChaosStar: YoOjo: ChaosStar: YoOjo: Hmm, I'm sensing some negativity towards these guys, maybe they could do with a rebranding?
Change the name to something less charged, maybe K³ would help.

The Klan formally known as Ku Klux perhaps?

The Klanashidans?

A Klan named Ku Klux?


The Knew Klux Klan.
 
2013-07-26 08:46:28 AM  
"Hush little racist, don't say a word. The KKK will find you a mockingbird.  And if that mockingbird don't wear a sheet, the KKK will chase it on hunting feet"
 
2013-07-26 08:52:10 AM  

skinink: The KKK took my baby away. They took her away, away from me.


Was that before or after it was eaten by a dingo?
 
2013-07-26 08:54:46 AM  
No different than having the Black Panthers patroling.

/both racist orgs
 
2013-07-26 09:00:52 AM  
Have to disagree with the guy in the article...if you're going to spam with flyers, leaflets, incredible! sales offers/opportunities, etc., I'd rather just have the piece of paper so I can throw it away instead of having you knock on my door. That shiat's annoying as hell. Especially the Christian ones that just flat-out lie about shiat. "Oh, well, we have your address in our guestbook, so we thought you'd like to talk about becoming a member!" No. No, you don't. I've never been to your whatever, and you're hitting every house on the block. Fark off.

Considering how Protestant the Klan is, I can't imagine they'd be any better. So, yeah, a piece of paper in a bag with a rock is definitely my preferred method of ignoring your shiat.
 
2013-07-26 09:05:02 AM  

Joe Blowme: No different than having the Black Panthers patroling.

/both racist orgs


And? What was your point?

Oh... right. Because all liberals and minorities think the NBP are snuggly and awesome.
 
2013-07-26 09:20:16 AM  
 
2013-07-26 09:22:10 AM  

here to help: Joe Blowme: No different than having the Black Panthers patroling.

/both racist orgs

And? What was your point?

Oh... right. Because all liberals and minorities think the NBP are snuggly and awesome.


My point was just what i said, no different than having the Black Panthers patroling.

/racist is as racist does
//racissst
 
2013-07-26 09:23:58 AM  

dfenstrate: It's probably just more of this nonsense.


Stop it with your facts and examples, this is fark
 
2013-07-26 09:30:09 AM  

Joe Blowme: My point was just what i said, no different than having the Black Panthers patroling.

/racist is as racist does
//racissst


It had nothing to do with anything. You just wanted to pull the old "b-b-but THEY do it too!"

And actually there is unfortunately more of a reason to have the NBP patrolling neighborhoods than there is with the KKK. That reason being that poor black communities do not get appropriate police service and are more likely to be harassed by the police than helped by them. It ain't right but that's how they got their in. Fix the trust issues and maybe those communities wouldn't feel the need to rely on the Panthers to clean up their neighborhoods.
 
2013-07-26 09:30:42 AM  

suicide: ChaosStar: YoOjo: ChaosStar: YoOjo: Hmm, I'm sensing some negativity towards these guys, maybe they could do with a rebranding?
Change the name to something less charged, maybe K³ would help.

The Klan formally known as Ku Klux perhaps?

The Klanashidans?

A Klan named Ku Klux?

The Knew Klux Klan.


Damnit that was my next one!

Ku Klux Klan 2: Electric Boogaloo
 
2013-07-26 09:34:02 AM  

dfenstrate: It's probably just more of this nonsense.


More nothing to do with nothing. The KKK doesn't exist. Racism doesn't exist (except those dirty racist minorities). Liberals are trying to ruin America. Blah blah blah.
 
2013-07-26 09:37:53 AM  

here to help: Joe Blowme: My point was just what i said, no different than having the Black Panthers patroling.

/racist is as racist does
//racissst

It had nothing to do with anything. You just wanted to pull the old "b-b-but THEY do it too!"

And actually there is unfortunately more of a reason to have the NBP patrolling neighborhoods than there is with the KKK. That reason being that poor black communities do not get appropriate police service and are more likely to be harassed by the police than helped by them. It ain't right but that's how they got their in. Fix the trust issues and maybe those communities wouldn't feel the need to rely on the Panthers to clean up their neighborhoods.


Sooooo what does that say about those neighborhoods and people residing in them? Not justifying either group, just pointing out how similar they are in their hatred.

/both groups suck and should be called out for their vile world views.
 
2013-07-26 09:39:14 AM  
When my son was about two or three, we came across a gathering in the town square of this city where we had come for a christmas festival. When we got closer we realized it was Klanta Klaus: Red Klan robe with fur trim, elves in white and green Klan robes, etc. They were taking pictures just like a mall Santa--so we got one with my kid on his lap. My kid is Hispanic....my husband had to stand a little out of the way, but we still got a kick out of putting my dirty beaner spawn on Klanta's lap. We were chanting "You touched a Mexican!" as we left (hurriedly left).

Idiots. I doubt if they would be able to manage a neighborhood watch program. They'd probably burn it all down trying to get the cross lit....
 
2013-07-26 09:39:44 AM  
The ad asks people to contact them. Has 4chan seen this?
 
2013-07-26 09:45:47 AM  

Joe Blowme: Sooooo what does that say about those neighborhoods and people residing in them? Not justifying either group, just pointing out how similar they are in their hatred.

/both groups suck and should be called out for their vile world views.


The difference being that the KKK was spawned out of a desire to remain dominant over the black community through intimidation and violence. The NBP was a direct reaction to that mindset. Would the NBP even exist without the KKK and like minded people? IDK but it seems unlikely and I highly doubt they'd be as radical or powerful if blacks had just been allowed to integrate without all the nonsense. We'd likely have a lot less thug culture too which has spread everywhere including the rich white burbs.
 
2013-07-26 09:52:25 AM  

Tumunga: [emptysuit.files.wordpress.com image 249x398]


b...b...but dead senator byrd!
 
2013-07-26 10:02:28 AM  
MAXIMUM TROLLING ACHIEVED?

or

shiat a gives who?
 
2013-07-26 10:07:44 AM  
I do think the Zim trial made these groups feel empowered.

After all, if a racist group sets up a neighborhood watch, patrols looking for "those people", stalks them, chases them when they run and then confronts them in the dark of the night... well, the zim trial showed us dead men tell no tales and the victor writes the history.

It's perfectly legal.
 
2013-07-26 10:10:55 AM  

ChaosStar: teenage mutant ninja rapist: ChaosStar: thoughtless: Tumunga: gilgigamesh: I expected the wake of the Zimmerman verdict would result in a resurgence for the Klan.

So, the klan likes Hispanics now. Got it.

Don't be obtuse, the Zimmerman verdict and everything about the trial (minus Zim actually being a white guy) was a victory for them. It played to their confirmation bias that there are dangerous young black men out attacking law abiding citizens and that the media and government are both complicit in demonizing those who would lawfully defend themselves. When Zimmerman was found not guilty it was like their "IT'S HAPPENING" moment and you saw them (here on Fark too) start to come out of the woodwork with more bold racist sentiments not related to the trial itself.

No one is trying to make a guilt by association argument that just because you're a Zimmerman supporter you're in league with the Klan or inherently racist yourself, but if you can't see why it put the jump back in white supremacist's steps you're being silly.

/I apologize in advance for contributing to this thread derailment

Well, both the media and the government did demonize a man who lawfully defended himself, so if what you're saying is true then they did get it right on that point didn't they?

Just because he was found not guilty and you feel he did nothing wrong does not infact make it so.

any responsible adult with a minimum of common sense knows george acted like an idiot every step of the way that night. And there was never any need for him to even leave the house that night.

The funny thing being had george been sent to jail, even for a short amount of time then he would be able to lead a far safer and somewhat normal life. Atleast compared to the absolute paranoia Im sure he lives with now.

Ok first, you completely missed the mark on the original point, and continue to threadjack. Way to go.

Second, I'm a responsible adult, with a few sanctions both at the state and federal level, th ...



AND there it goes.

static.guim.co.uk
 
2013-07-26 10:13:27 AM  

Private_Citizen: I do think the Zim trial made these groups feel empowered.

After all, if a racist group sets up a neighborhood watch, patrols looking for "those people", stalks them, chases them when they run and then confronts them in the dark of the night... well, the zim trial showed us dead men tell no tales and the victor writes the history.

It's perfectly legal.


Unfortunately, yes. Are fear we are going to see a lot more Zimmerman'ing in the future. When one of these dum dums tries to pull it off in a state that doesn't have the over the top, loosely worded self defense laws like Florida does though the fail will be epic.
 
2013-07-26 10:14:40 AM  

here to help: Are


I

stupid brain... you work for ME dammit!
 
2013-07-26 10:14:47 AM  
Probably awake from doing too much meth from what I've seen of their members.
 
2013-07-26 10:44:15 AM  

spman: It seems to me like if you really wanted people to listen to your views on racial, ethnic, or religious superiority, and take them seriously, you should probably avoid using the Confederate Flag, the letters KKK, or the swastika altogether. These things all have a pretty negative conotation amongst the public, perhaps it's time to adopt a new symbol for your hate group? Maybe one that doesn't remind people of slavery, lynchings, or Adolf Hitler?


If they did all that, they'd just become the local Republican group...
 
2013-07-26 11:03:47 AM  

zeroman987: thoughtless: Tumunga: gilgigamesh: I expected the wake of the Zimmerman verdict would result in a resurgence for the Klan.

So, the klan likes Hispanics now. Got it.

Don't be obtuse, the Zimmerman verdict and everything about the trial (minus Zim actually being a white guy) was a victory for them.



i1.ytimg.com
"No more protection from the guards. I'll pull you out of that one-bunk Hilton and cast you down with the Sodomites. You'll think you've been farked by a train! And the library? Gone... sealed off, brick-by-brick. We'll have us a little book barbecue in the yard. They'll see the flames for miles. We'll dance around it like wild Injuns! You understand me? Catching my drift?... Or am I being obtuse? "

Or did you mean like this:
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-26 11:19:51 AM  

here to help: Joe Blowme: Sooooo what does that say about those neighborhoods and people residing in them? Not justifying either group, just pointing out how similar they are in their hatred.

/both groups suck and should be called out for their vile world views.

The difference being that the KKK was spawned out of a desire to remain dominant over the black community through intimidation and violence. The NBP was a direct reaction to that mindset. Would the NBP even exist without the KKK and like minded people? IDK but it seems unlikely and I highly doubt they'd be as radical or powerful if blacks had just been allowed to integrate without all the nonsense. We'd likely have a lot less thug culture too which has spread everywhere including the rich white burbs.


Woulda, coulda, shoulda.... both are racist and suck ass
 
2013-07-26 11:52:45 AM  
tokyo.fabcafe.com
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-26 11:54:57 AM  

Dadoody: White People Yay!!! :D

[media.tumblr.com image 270x216]


Holy Shiat! She could gnaw the bark off of a petrified oak with those chompers!
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-26 12:06:20 PM  

here to help: Joe Blowme: Sooooo what does that say about those neighborhoods and people residing in them? Not justifying either group, just pointing out how similar they are in their hatred.

/both groups suck and should be called out for their vile world views.

The difference being that the KKK was spawned out of a desire to remain dominant over the black community through intimidation and violence. The NBP was a direct reaction to that mindset. Would the NBP even exist without the KKK and like minded people? IDK but it seems unlikely and I highly doubt they'd be as radical or powerful if blacks had just been allowed to integrate without all the nonsense. We'd likely have a lot less thug culture too which has spread everywhere including the rich white burbs.


Sorry, going to disagree vehemently with you on this. I say BOTH groups are equally repugnant and culpable. They are BOTH racial-hate groups and have no place in civilized society. And I especially find the NBP's use of military style dress offensive. It is demeaning to those who have served in our armed forces.
 
2013-07-26 12:14:54 PM  
No, no, no ... Obama is the definition of Maximum Trolling

/there'll be a test later
 
2013-07-26 12:17:33 PM  

gja: Sorry, going to disagree vehemently with you on this.


Of course you are.
 
2013-07-26 12:18:49 PM  

serial_crusher: spman: It seems to me like if you really wanted people to listen to your views on racial, ethnic, or religious superiority, and take them seriously, you should probably avoid using the Confederate Flag, the letters KKK, or the swastika altogether. These things all have a pretty negative conotation amongst the public, perhaps it's time to adopt a new symbol for your hate group? Maybe one that doesn't remind people of slavery, lynchings, or Adolf Hitler?

Those are pretty powerful marketing tools for like-minded individuals.


Yes, but they required a smart, functional uniform that identified them as members of the club.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-26 12:23:41 PM  

here to help: gja: Sorry, going to disagree vehemently with you on this.

Of course you are.


But of course, you already knew that.
Really though, do you think it is OK for either of these groups to go about spewing hate speech?
I know I have to allow the KKK to have their say, but it is very hard for me to NOT beat them to a pulp. I cannot understand how anyone can be so animalistic and base. I want VERY much to break a Louisville Slugger over some of their heads. Their mindset wreaks of an inability to realize how they hurt society in a collective sense.
 
2013-07-26 12:32:04 PM  

gja: here to help: gja: Sorry, going to disagree vehemently with you on this.

Of course you are.

But of course, you already knew that.
Really though, do you think it is OK for either of these groups to go about spewing hate speech?
I know I have to allow the KKK to have their say, but it is very hard for me to NOT beat them to a pulp. I cannot understand how anyone can be so animalistic and base. I want VERY much to break a Louisville Slugger over some of their heads. Their mindset wreaks of an inability to realize how they hurt society in a collective sense.


Even the original Panthers can't stand them.
 
2013-07-26 12:32:45 PM  

suicide: ChaosStar: YoOjo: ChaosStar: YoOjo: Hmm, I'm sensing some negativity towards these guys, maybe they could do with a rebranding?
Change the name to something less charged, maybe K³ would help.

The Klan formally known as Ku Klux perhaps?

The Klanashidans?

A Klan named Ku Klux?

The Knew Klux Klan.


I think to get any respect they'll have to do away with anything that still has the KKK acronym.  I suggest they call themselves the Fraternal Aryan Guard.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-26 12:39:13 PM  

trippycrazy12: gja: here to help: gja: Sorry, going to disagree vehemently with you on this.

Of course you are.

But of course, you already knew that.
Really though, do you think it is OK for either of these groups to go about spewing hate speech?
I know I have to allow the KKK to have their say, but it is very hard for me to NOT beat them to a pulp. I cannot understand how anyone can be so animalistic and base. I want VERY much to break a Louisville Slugger over some of their heads. Their mindset wreaks of an inability to realize how they hurt society in a collective sense.

Even the original Panthers can't stand them.


I wasn't writing about the BP/NBP as a source/target of my anger. Just the KKK. I do feel both groups have no place in a civilized society as they tend to make people focus on the symptoms of the problem rather than the root of the problem.
A lack of respect for others.
Many ills in our world can be traced back to this problem. Respect of others solves so many problem.

I get annoyed at ANY pseudo-militant group who choose to wear military style outfits. I suppose it is from having buried so many friends and colleagues who wore that cloth. I have no way of viewing it in a dispassionate way. I think it is irreverent and impudent.
 
2013-07-26 12:49:35 PM  

gja: here to help: gja: Sorry, going to disagree vehemently with you on this.

Of course you are.

But of course, you already knew that.
Really though, do you think it is OK for either of these groups to go about spewing hate speech?
I know I have to allow the KKK to have their say, but it is very hard for me to NOT beat them to a pulp. I cannot understand how anyone can be so animalistic and base. I want VERY much to break a Louisville Slugger over some of their heads. Their mindset wreaks of an inability to realize how they hurt society in a collective sense.


Of course not and I have not defended them... merely pointed out why they exist in the first place. The sixties were a very frustrating time for many African Americans. They were being given their rights... finally, yet there were those who were doing everything they could undermine those rights and actually physically harm the community. There was also the influx of cheap heroin into the ghettos (which was provided by the powers that be to destabilize and de-legitimize the growing uppitiness of those trying exercise those rights) that was causing some serious crime problems. The Panthers were the response. At first they were rather idealistic and almost laudable in their goals but became more militant and racist very quickly.

So really if you look at it from that angle what would you have done? We have many people shouting from the rooftops they need to protect themselves from a corrupt and oppressive government these days. Well that community in that particular point in time faced some of the harshest version of those things the country has ever seen... (and I mean having legitimate rights trampled on, before that those rights did not exist for blacks). If they were white it would almost be a right winger's wet dream. Taking control of one's own destiny and resisting those who would deny them their inalienable rights as American citizens.

Pretty powerful stuff, right? Easy to get drawn into. But as always potentially good movements and ideas tend to get hijacked by those with an agenda or a need to act out their own anger/hatred.

So I say to you... can we TRULY equate the Klan with the Panthers in a historical sense? Can we truly say that both entities have been equally as toxic for the US?

I agree that racism of any kind is horrible and needs to be stopped but one of these things is not (exactly) like the other. Let's create a world where true equality exists and then groups like the Panthers would become irrelevant. Until that happens there will always be people willing to fill the role of "protector" and "revolutionary" and people desperate enough to follow them.

Peace.
 
2013-07-26 12:54:51 PM  

gja: I get annoyed at ANY pseudo-militant group who choose to wear military style outfits. I suppose it is from having buried so many friends and colleagues who wore that cloth. I have no way of viewing it in a dispassionate way. I think it is irreverent and impudent.


I'm not certain but I believe that was a response to harassment at the hands of uniformed representatives of the state. Essentially "Look. We can play dress up too!". Kind of a powerful point in the sense of does a uniform truly make you an authority? Now it's just the garb of the movement and the point is likely lost on the new guys... as are many of the original ideals. Meet the new boss...
 
2013-07-26 12:54:52 PM  

ChaosStar: YoOjo: Hmm, I'm sensing some negativity towards these guys, maybe they could do with a rebranding?
Change the name to something less charged, maybe K³ would help.


The Klan formally known as Ku Klux perhaps?


upload.wikimedia.org
The Knights who Until Recently Said "Ku Klux"?
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-26 12:59:12 PM  

here to help: Let's create a world where true equality exists............


I am only 1 man, but I have passed on my values to my daughter. So I am doing all I really can at this point.
Who's next? We ALL need to step up.
 
2013-07-26 12:59:26 PM  

dfenstrate: It's probably just more of this nonsense.


There is one valid point in that article.  Racists almost never admit they're racist.  They're more likely to say something like "You're the REAL racists!" or "I'm just trying to protect the white race" or "I'm just saying what everybody's thinking."

A racist who said "I'm racist and proud" would be a refreshing change, but not likely to happen.
 
2013-07-26 01:00:51 PM  

Joe Blowme: dfenstrate: It's probably just more of this nonsense.

Stop it with your facts and examples, this is fark


It's a good think there aren't any black Muslims in this story.  Your head would explode.
 
2013-07-26 01:14:41 PM  

gja: here to help: Let's create a world where true equality exists............

I am only 1 man, but I have passed on my values to my daughter. So I am doing all I really can at this point.
Who's next? We ALL need to step up.


It'll come if we don't manage to destroy ourselves first. It pains me to say this but I don't think America was quite ready for its first black president. At the very least it probably shouldn't have happened in the midst of two wars and an economic meltdown. Far too much of a distraction and it has given the racists ways to disguise their true motivations. Now instead of getting pointed at and mocked people can relate to the REAL problems being brought up then get sucked into the racial derp as well stirring up the latent racists which in turn stirs up the minorities fears which stirs up the latent racists more and so on and so on.

That and Obama, while better than the alternatives, really ain't that great. I do think he tries and means well but his first term was weak, probably out of fear and his second term... well he seems to have just fallen in line with the same old sh*t.
 
2013-07-26 01:15:16 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: suicide: ChaosStar: YoOjo: ChaosStar: YoOjo: Hmm, I'm sensing some negativity towards these guys, maybe they could do with a rebranding?
Change the name to something less charged, maybe K³ would help.

The Klan formally known as Ku Klux perhaps?

The Klanashidans?

A Klan named Ku Klux?

The Knew Klux Klan.

I think to get any respect they'll have to do away with anything that still has the KKK acronym.  I suggest they call themselves the Fraternal Aryan Guard.


ciberido: ChaosStar: YoOjo: Hmm, I'm sensing some negativity towards these guys, maybe they could do with a rebranding?
Change the name to something less charged, maybe K³ would help.


The Klan formally known as Ku Klux perhaps?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 400x221]
The Knights who Until Recently Said "Ku Klux"?


The New Ku on the Block?
This is fun, we really should direct their attention to this thread to assist them with their image problems!
 
2013-07-26 01:18:34 PM  
Head Nazi: White men! White women! The swastika is calling you. The sacred and ancient symbol of your race, since the beginning of time. The Jew is using The Black as muscle against you. And you are left there helpless. Well, what are you going to do about it, Whitey? Just sit there? Of course not! You are going to join with us. The members of the American Socialist White Peoples' Party. An organization of decent, law abiding white folk. Just like you!

Elwood: Illinois Nazis.
Jake: I hate Illinois Nazis.
 
2013-07-26 01:41:44 PM  
Need to set up a Klan that lets everyone join. But the the regular Klan wouldn't get the joke.
 
2013-07-26 01:43:56 PM  
It takes a real moran to think the KKK and the Black Panthers are on the same level. Who exactly have the Black Panthers lynched? What group of white people have the Black Panthers terrorized and disenfranchised? Some people need to get their heads out of their ass.
 
2013-07-26 01:48:39 PM  

ZeroPly: spman: It seems to me like if you really wanted people to listen to your views on racial, ethnic, or religious superiority, and take them seriously, you should probably avoid using the Confederate Flag, the letters KKK, or the swastika altogether. These things all have a pretty negative conotation amongst the public, perhaps it's time to adopt a new symbol for your hate group? Maybe one that doesn't remind people of slavery, lynchings, or Adolf Hitler?

If they did all that, they'd just become the local Republican group...


Which Party's ticket did David Duke run on again?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_history_of_David_Duke
 
2013-07-26 01:55:02 PM  

TheJoe03: It takes a real moran to think the KKK and the Black Panthers are on the same level. Who exactly have the Black Panthers lynched? What group of white people have the Black Panthers terrorized and disenfranchised? Some people need to get their heads out of their ass.


It's an excuse and a deflection and really had nothing to do with the article or thread.

Remember all the squeaking about those two BPs "intimidating" voters at that one polling station? That somehow excuses codifying voter suppression into law and invalidates the overwhelming support of BOB at the polls.

Two guys.
 
2013-07-26 01:59:37 PM  

spman: ZeroPly: spman: It seems to me like if you really wanted people to listen to your views on racial, ethnic, or religious superiority, and take them seriously, you should probably avoid using the Confederate Flag, the letters KKK, or the swastika altogether. These things all have a pretty negative conotation amongst the public, perhaps it's time to adopt a new symbol for your hate group? Maybe one that doesn't remind people of slavery, lynchings, or Adolf Hitler?

If they did all that, they'd just become the local Republican group...

Which Party's ticket did David Duke run on again?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_history_of_David_Duke


Yeah, and the north pole was once tropical. Things change.
 
2013-07-26 02:10:05 PM  

ZeroPly: Yeah, and the north pole was once tropical. Things change.


Duke was recent memory. There are indeed very nasty and racist dems as there are indeed decent repubs. There was no excuse for letting that arsehole anywhere near anything and that needs to be owned up to if higher ground is to be taken. Party affiliation means nothing if the person is a twat.

Content of ones character and all that.
 
2013-07-26 02:10:53 PM  
ciberido: A racist who said "I'm racist and proud" would be a refreshing change, but not likely to happen.

Completely agree with you. I'd actually respect them for their honesty, even though I disagree with their worldview.

I've given this issue a lot of thought...why obvious bigots are so vehemently opposed to being labeled as racists. And I think what it boils down to is a matter of credibility. If a person admits to being racist, they know that people will easily dismiss their viewpoints because of it ("Why take that guy seriously? He's an admitted racist!"). Yet if they make the exact same arguments a racist would make, but do it under the guise of "just stating the obvious" or "not being politically correct" or citing crime and poverty statistics, etc...they are able to maintain their credibility (at least in their minds) and not have their viewpoints dismissed out of hand.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-26 02:40:57 PM  

TheJoe03: It takes a real moran to think the KKK and the Black Panthers are on the same level. Who exactly have the Black Panthers lynched? What group of white people have the Black Panthers terrorized and disenfranchised? Some people need to get their heads out of their ass.


If that is a thinly veiled jab at my post have the balls to say it and be man enough to direct it properly.
FTR, I do not place them on the same level. I just don't like groups of people whose tend to cause a divide rather than solve problems and unite.
If you think one of these groups have helped to unite please give a citation, otherwise drop it.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-26 02:42:14 PM  

here to help: TheJoe03: It takes a real moran to think the KKK and the Black Panthers are on the same level. Who exactly have the Black Panthers lynched? What group of white people have the Black Panthers terrorized and disenfranchised? Some people need to get their heads out of their ass.

It's an excuse and a deflection and really had nothing to do with the article or thread.

Remember all the squeaking about those two BPs "intimidating" voters at that one polling station? That somehow excuses codifying voter suppression into law and invalidates the overwhelming support of BOB at the polls.

Two guys.


Nobody with a real brain ever bought that tripe.
 
2013-07-26 02:49:25 PM  

gja: If that is a thinly veiled jab at my post have the balls to say it and be man enough to direct it properly.


If you're the idiot that brought up the Black Panthers, then it's directed right at ya tough guy.
 
2013-07-26 02:49:53 PM  

stuffy: Need to set up a Klan that lets everyone join. But the the regular Klan wouldn't get the joke.


4.bp.blogspot.com
Shazbot!
 
2013-07-26 02:51:10 PM  

TheJoe03: If you're the idiot that brought up the Black Panthers, then it's directed right at ya tough guy.


No... that was Joe Blowme who is notorious for his silliness.
 
2013-07-26 02:51:15 PM  

PaulRB: Bucky Katt: The KKK appeals only to neatherthals.  Any racist with a hint of intelligence prefers to be more mainstream.  Like working for the Heritage Foundation or as a staffer for a southern senator.

Or working for Rand Paul.


The Paul's are defenders of the Constitution.You're just a tool of your political party.  I'd love to be there when you finally wake up.

Now go back to back to sleep slave.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-26 02:52:36 PM  

TheJoe03: gja: If that is a thinly veiled jab at my post have the balls to say it and be man enough to direct it properly.

If you're the idiot that brought up the Black Panthers, then it's directed right at ya tough guy.


That would be YOU.
Joe Blowme:
No different than having the Black Panthers patroling.

/both racist orgs
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-26 02:54:08 PM  

gja: TheJoe03: gja: If that is a thinly veiled jab at my post have the balls to say it and be man enough to direct it properly.

If you're the idiot that brought up the Black Panthers, then it's directed right at ya tough guy.

That would be YOU.
Joe Blowme: No different than having the Black Panthers patroling.

/both racist orgs


Sorry to TheJoe03, wrong 'joe'. I acknowledge my error and apologize.
Joe Blowme, is an ass, and can go play bob-for-fires.
 
2013-07-26 02:54:14 PM  

gja: That would be YOU.


LOL, what?
 
2013-07-26 02:55:22 PM  

gja: Sorry to TheJoe03, wrong 'joe'. I acknowledge my error and apologize.
Joe Blowme, is an ass, and can go play bob-for-fires.


No problem.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-26 02:55:30 PM  

here to help: TheJoe03: If you're the idiot that brought up the Black Panthers, then it's directed right at ya tough guy.

No... that was Joe Blowme who is notorious for his silliness.


I didn't know of his predilection for the inane, ignore list duly updated.
 
2013-07-26 03:00:41 PM  

gja: I didn't know of his predilection for the inane, ignore list duly updated.


Meh. He's not as bad as some but he does seem to like to stir the pot. I've never put anyone on ignore. Might be why I get so riled up sometimes but I'd rather see the dolts than not know WTF is going on.

I however seem to have been put on many an ignore list because I engage them on occasion... which is what happened here.

Boredom can be a terrible thing.

;-)
 
2013-07-26 03:09:09 PM  

ciberido: Joe Blowme: dfenstrate: It's probably just more of this nonsense.

Stop it with your facts and examples, this is fark

It's a good think there aren't any black Muslims in this story.  Your head would explode.


already have 2 racist groups, no need the throw in a 3rd
 
2013-07-26 05:16:01 PM  
There has to be a way to get the KKK idiots and a bunch of Black Panther idiots into a shootout, on video to entertain the rest of us.

TheJoe03: It takes a real moran to think the KKK and the Black Panthers are on the same level. Who exactly have the Black Panthers lynched? What group of white people have the Black Panthers terrorized and disenfranchised? Some people need to get their heads out of their ass.


They did make a public offer of a $10,000 bounty on George Zimmerman.  I'm no fan of his, but that's clearly over the line.

The guy who runs the New Black Panther Party in Houston calls himself Quanell X.

Here are a couple of quotes :

"I say to Jewish America: Get ready ... knuckle up, put your boots on, because we're ready and the war is going down. ... The real deal is this: Black youth do not want a relationship with the Jewish community or the mainstream white community or the foot shuffling, head-bowing, knee bobbing black community. ... All you Jews can go straight to hell."

and

"If you feel that you just got to mug somebody because of your hurt and your pain, go to River Oaks and mug you some good white folks. If you're angry that our brother is put to death, don't burn down your own community, give these white folks hell from the womb to the tomb."

Are the panthers as bad as the KKK?  Probably not.  But that doesn't make them decent human beings.
 
2013-07-26 06:00:44 PM  

TheJoe03: thamike: Yes?

I'm saying that skinhead culture is largely (or was) based on Jamaican culture and it's hilarious a pro-white racist faction became the driving force.


Not the skinhead part of it.  Purely working class white people, particularly ones prone to injury, and it was of a functional nature.  The mods were the original ones all into the rudeboy clothes and ska.  But really, it was being pushed on everyone.  It was the Gangnam Style of 1970s England, but slightly more tolerable.  The skinheads took it to a faster, angrier place than the mods were is all, and the advertisers had taken something with a truly dark nature--rudeboy chic--and sanitized it for the aristocrats.  Meanwhile, in Jamaica, people were getting cut the f*ck up by kids dressed like that, so none of this is really ironic at all--except maybe the black part--which was gone before it started as far as skinheads were concerned.  It was just their way of coopting the diaspora, as a defense mechanism, most likely.
 
2013-07-26 06:01:39 PM  

JuggleGeek: There has to be a way to get the KKK idiots and a bunch of Black Panther idiots into a shootout, on video to entertain the rest of us.

TheJoe03: It takes a real moran to think the KKK and the Black Panthers are on the same level. Who exactly have the Black Panthers lynched? What group of white people have the Black Panthers terrorized and disenfranchised? Some people need to get their heads out of their ass.

They did make a public offer of a $10,000 bounty on George Zimmerman.  I'm no fan of his, but that's clearly over the line.

The guy who runs the New Black Panther Party in Houston calls himself Quanell X.

Here are a couple of quotes :

"I say to Jewish America: Get ready ... knuckle up, put your boots on, because we're ready and the war is going down. ... The real deal is this: Black youth do not want a relationship with the Jewish community or the mainstream white community or the foot shuffling, head-bowing, knee bobbing black community. ... All you Jews can go straight to hell."

and

"If you feel that you just got to mug somebody because of your hurt and your pain, go to River Oaks and mug you some good white folks. If you're angry that our brother is put to death, don't burn down your own community, give these white folks hell from the womb to the tomb."

Are the panthers as bad as the KKK?  Probably not.  But that doesn't make them decent human beings.


New Black Panthers != Black Panthers.  So say the Black Panthers.
 
2013-07-26 06:20:18 PM  
The article you linked to is titled "There is no new black panther party", yet there clearly is.  The old black panthers may not like the new ones, but that doesn't keep them from existing, nor does it keep them from being sleazeballs, just as I pointed out in my previous post.
 
2013-07-26 06:33:55 PM  

JuggleGeek: Are the panthers as bad as the KKK?  Probably not.


Probably not? More like not even close. Hell, the stuff you quoted was stuff that guy said when he was in the NOI in the 90s and he got kicked out for that. According to his wiki he apologized for it in 2008. BTW, talk is cheap and the actions of the Klan compared to the Black Panthers makes it clear that anyone that brings up the Black Panthers to put up against the KKK is full of shiat.
 
2013-07-26 06:35:11 PM  

thamike: TheJoe03: thamike: Yes?

I'm saying that skinhead culture is largely (or was) based on Jamaican culture and it's hilarious a pro-white racist faction became the driving force.

Not the skinhead part of it.  Purely working class white people, particularly ones prone to injury, and it was of a functional nature.  The mods were the original ones all into the rudeboy clothes and ska.  But really, it was being pushed on everyone.  It was the Gangnam Style of 1970s England, but slightly more tolerable.  The skinheads took it to a faster, angrier place than the mods were is all, and the advertisers had taken something with a truly dark nature--rudeboy chic--and sanitized it for the aristocrats.  Meanwhile, in Jamaica, people were getting cut the f*ck up by kids dressed like that, so none of this is really ironic at all--except maybe the black part--which was gone before it started as far as skinheads were concerned.  It was just their way of coopting the diaspora, as a defense mechanism, most likely.


Well you obviously know more about the subject, I actually learned something new today.
 
2013-07-26 07:00:25 PM  

TheJoe03: According to his wiki he apologized for it in 2008.


That's not what he apologized for, and he was in Houston trrying to start a fight just a few weekends ago.

But it's clear you want to kiss his ass, so I'll let you.
 
2013-07-26 09:42:35 PM  

randomjsa: TuteTibiImperes: From what I understand the Klan has pretty much decentralized and is now made up of mostly independent factions. Apparently they don't do a whole lot more than recruit these days and only manage a meager turn out for parades and protests.

That was always ultimately what did them in. Each little group of local idiots was never really that well connected to the other local groups of idiots. They only ever had a semblance of national organization.

You have to understand, people that hateful are never going to get along in significantly large groups as each one thinks they know better.


Not unlike religions. It's why the christian cult fractured into hundreds of denominations after Martin Luther nailed his screed to the door.
 
2013-07-27 08:45:35 AM  

TheJoe03: thamike: TheJoe03: thamike: Yes?

I'm saying that skinhead culture is largely (or was) based on Jamaican culture and it's hilarious a pro-white racist faction became the driving force.

Not the skinhead part of it.  Purely working class white people, particularly ones prone to injury, and it was of a functional nature.  The mods were the original ones all into the rudeboy clothes and ska.  But really, it was being pushed on everyone.  It was the Gangnam Style of 1970s England, but slightly more tolerable.  The skinheads took it to a faster, angrier place than the mods were is all, and the advertisers had taken something with a truly dark nature--rudeboy chic--and sanitized it for the aristocrats.  Meanwhile, in Jamaica, people were getting cut the f*ck up by kids dressed like that, so none of this is really ironic at all--except maybe the black part--which was gone before it started as far as skinheads were concerned.  It was just their way of coopting the diaspora, as a defense mechanism, most likely.

Well you obviously know more about the subject, I actually learned something new today.


I think I learned what I know about this in the same way.  Sometimes Fark is actually useful.
 
2013-07-27 11:06:17 AM  
I don't understand why people assume that because people are in the Klan they're just "neanderthals". Really? Because the last I checked we still have at least one US Senator and several US Governor's and countless other state officials who have Klan ties through family and friends.
 
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2013-07-27 11:51:39 AM  

Hermione_Granger: I don't understand why people assume that because people are in the Klan they're just "neanderthals". Really? Because the last I checked we still have at least one US Senator and several US Governor's and countless other state officials who have Klan ties through family and friends.


And you think that makes them good people?!
 
2013-07-27 01:16:30 PM  

Tumunga: [emptysuit.files.wordpress.com image 249x398]


Does anyone have that website address or phone number to call? I sure could use there help, my neighborhood is getting rough!
 
2013-07-27 04:40:56 PM  

here to help: Duke was recent memory.


Yep. And so was his switch of party affiliation from the Democratic party to the GOP: December 1988.

here to help: There are indeed very nasty and racist dems as there are indeed decent repubs.


Also, yep. However, these days the trend is for nasty racists to disproportionately not be Democrats. ("Decent" is too vague for backing the corresponding response there.)
 
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