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(Engadget)   Scientists implant false memories in mice. Next up, Ratception   (engadget.com) divider line 78
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2013-07-25 09:46:50 PM
We have to go Ratdeeper!
 
2013-07-25 11:33:59 PM

MurphyMurphy: We have to go Ratdeeper!


Total Ratcall
 
2013-07-25 11:34:29 PM
Get your rat's ass to Mars!
 
2013-07-26 12:58:40 AM
The Ratrix
 
2013-07-26 12:59:56 AM
This is a repeat.

I remember this from last week.  And the week before.  And the week before that.
 
2013-07-26 01:00:01 AM
By manipulating the memory engram-bearing cells in the hippocampus, the research team convinced a few unsuspecting mice that they had experienced a shock to their feet when one had never actually occurred.

This is why scientists are portrayed as evil in pop culture. That is the false memory you implant? Why not false memories of getting mouse laid?
 
2013-07-26 01:01:16 AM
You know, being a scientist and all, I'm in favor of doing shiat in the name of science...but damn, that's kinda messed up.
 
2013-07-26 01:04:39 AM
Well that took long for that to get here
 
2013-07-26 01:06:08 AM
Rat-tat-ouchie
 
2013-07-26 01:06:18 AM
Mickey Mnemonic
 
2013-07-26 01:07:03 AM
CRAMBONE!
 
2013-07-26 01:09:57 AM
Wasn't this part of the plot of the Rifter trilogies
 
2013-07-26 01:11:12 AM

impaler: By manipulating the memory engram-bearing cells in the hippocampus, the research team convinced a few unsuspecting mice that they had experienced a shock to their feet when one had never actually occurred.

This is why scientists are portrayed as evil in pop culture. That is the false memory you implant? Why not false memories of getting mouse laid?


Because that's called "getting ratfarked", which is pretty much the same thing
 
2013-07-26 01:11:34 AM

Carlos Danger: This is a repeat.

I remember this from last week.  And the week before.  And the week before that.


What you did there, I see it. I remember seeing last time as well.
 
2013-07-26 01:14:47 AM
Came looking for an implant thread.  Leaving let down.
 
2013-07-26 01:19:24 AM
Hearts and minds...
 
2013-07-26 01:19:44 AM

impaler: By manipulating the memory engram-bearing cells in the hippocampus, the research team convinced a few unsuspecting mice that they had experienced a shock to their feet when one had never actually occurred.

This is why scientists are portrayed as evil in pop culture. That is the false memory you implant? Why not false memories of getting mouse laid?


My first thought is that it has to do with testability.  If a rat remembers getting shocked when it does a particular action, then it will tend to avoid repeating that action.  That should result in a behavioral change that is easy to measure.  How would you predict and measure the change in a rat's behavior resulting from getting laid?
 
2013-07-26 01:20:44 AM
Despite all my falsely implanted memories, I am still just a rat in a cage.
 
2013-07-26 01:25:11 AM

anfrind: impaler: By manipulating the memory engram-bearing cells in the hippocampus, the research team convinced a few unsuspecting mice that they had experienced a shock to their feet when one had never actually occurred.

This is why scientists are portrayed as evil in pop culture. That is the false memory you implant? Why not false memories of getting mouse laid?

My first thought is that it has to do with testability.  If a rat remembers getting shocked when it does a particular action, then it will tend to avoid repeating that action.  That should result in a behavioral change that is easy to measure.  How would you predict and measure the change in a rat's behavior resulting from getting laid?


Send him child support checks?
 
2013-07-26 01:26:39 AM
Scientists implant false memories in mice. Next uBWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHM
 
2013-07-26 01:28:25 AM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-07-26 01:30:32 AM

anfrind: impaler: By manipulating the memory engram-bearing cells in the hippocampus, the research team convinced a few unsuspecting mice that they had experienced a shock to their feet when one had never actually occurred.

This is why scientists are portrayed as evil in pop culture. That is the false memory you implant? Why not false memories of getting mouse laid?

My first thought is that it has to do with testability.  If a rat remembers getting shocked when it does a particular action, then it will tend to avoid repeating that action.  That should result in a behavioral change that is easy to measure.  How would you predict and measure the change in a rat's behavior resulting from getting laid?


How long his eratchion lasts?
 
2013-07-26 01:31:29 AM

anfrind: How would you predict and measure the change in a rat's behavior resulting from getting laid?


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The rat needs a smoke afterward.
 
2013-07-26 01:34:42 AM

harlock: Scientists implant false memories in mice. Next uBWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHM


I don't recall Inception really having more trumpets than some other movies, like The Matrix. I think BWAAAM is an implanted memory.
 
2013-07-26 01:40:05 AM

Carlos Danger: This is a repeat.

I remember this from last week.  And the week before.  And the week before that.


Two weeks.... twooo wwwweeeeeks.... twwoooOOOOooo WWwwwwWwwwEEeeeeEEeeeks....
 
2013-07-26 01:42:53 AM
I met the lead scientists doing this at the TED talks in Boston. It was pretty interesting, they were primarily focused on removing bad memories but have also been doing some research in altering current memories. They weren't completely changing the memory just making changes to the emotions tied to that memory. The open bar was also pretty kick ass, I think I had 3 beers.
 
2013-07-26 01:43:10 AM
i1104.photobucket.com

This TOTALLY happened, rat.
 
2013-07-26 01:45:13 AM

Science_Guy_3.14159: I met the lead scientists doing this at the TED talks in Boston. It was pretty interesting, they were primarily focused on removing bad memories but have also been doing some research in altering current memories. They weren't completely changing the memory just making changes to the emotions tied to that memory. The open bar was also pretty kick ass, I think I had 3 beers.


Or did you?
 
2013-07-26 01:45:52 AM

Carlos Danger: This is a repeat.

I remember this from last week.  And the week before.  And the week before that.


I remember it from next week
 
2013-07-26 01:46:22 AM

RayD8: Science_Guy_3.14159: I met the lead scientists doing this at the TED talks in Boston. It was pretty interesting, they were primarily focused on removing bad memories but have also been doing some research in altering current memories. They weren't completely changing the memory just making changes to the emotions tied to that memory. The open bar was also pretty kick ass, I think I had 3 beers.

Or did you?


Oh Snap!
 
2013-07-26 01:51:32 AM
Do you know the way to Shell Beach?
 
2013-07-26 01:52:46 AM
No, "Raternal Sunshine and the Spotless Mind"?

For shame!
 
2013-07-26 01:54:10 AM

UsikFark: harlock: Scientists implant false memories in mice. Next uBWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHM

I don't recall Inception really having more trumpets than some other movies, like The Matrix. I think BWAAAM is an implanted memory.


Meme spawned by the trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hP9D6kZseM
 
2013-07-26 01:59:42 AM
What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge mousetraps?
 
2013-07-26 02:04:53 AM
i251.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-26 02:05:27 AM
TV and movies have been doing that to people for decades.
 
2013-07-26 02:12:57 AM
Once this is perfected for humans life will become some kind of waking nightmare where you can never know what's real.

Even if you've never had memories implanted or removed how would you know for sure? How could you ever trust anything again?
 
2013-07-26 02:18:12 AM

Underwater Bystander: Once this is perfected for humans life will become some kind of waking nightmare where you can never know what's real.

Even if you've never had memories implanted or removed how would you know for sure? How could you ever trust anything again?


I can remember things for you wholesale.
 
2013-07-26 02:27:35 AM
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2013-07-26 03:19:43 AM
Maybe they are "gifting" them memories so they are more emotionally mature, thus, easier to control..
 
2013-07-26 03:24:42 AM

jtown: Came looking for an implant thread.  Leaving let down.


Well, you were young. And your heart was an open book.
 
2013-07-26 03:25:11 AM
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2013-07-26 03:30:01 AM

anfrind: impaler: By manipulating the memory engram-bearing cells in the hippocampus, the research team convinced a few unsuspecting mice that they had experienced a shock to their feet when one had never actually occurred.

This is why scientists are portrayed as evil in pop culture. That is the false memory you implant? Why not false memories of getting mouse laid?

My first thought is that it has to do with testability.  If a rat remembers getting shocked when it does a particular action, then it will tend to avoid repeating that action.  That should result in a behavioral change that is easy to measure.  How would you predict and measure the change in a rat's behavior resulting from getting laid?


He needs to run out to the gas station to get cigarettes more often?
 
2013-07-26 03:32:20 AM

Danger Avoid Death: anfrind: How would you predict and measure the change in a rat's behavior resulting from getting laid?

[www.all4humor.com image 460x520]

The rat needs a smoke afterward.


 One screen down, that was all I had to scroll.
 
2013-07-26 04:02:24 AM
So there's some rat that keeps dreaming of Ellen Page?
 
2013-07-26 04:18:07 AM
Ratcall Ratcall Ratcall!!
 
2013-07-26 04:42:02 AM

PartTimeBuddha: jtown: Came looking for an implant thread.  Leaving let down.

Well, you were young. And your heart was an open book.


IN WHICH WE'RE LIVIN'.

/not in which we live in
 
2013-07-26 04:57:58 AM
What about the mouse they lobotomized?
 
2013-07-26 05:20:24 AM

Jclark666: [i1104.photobucket.com image 500x500]

This TOTALLY happened, rat.


I've just totally lost track of anything else going on in this thread... that's just... wow.
 
2013-07-26 05:57:55 AM

Science_Guy_3.14159: I met the lead scientists doing this at the TED talks in Boston. It was pretty interesting, they were primarily focused on removing bad memories but have also been doing some research in altering current memories. They weren't completely changing the memory just making changes to the emotions tied to that memory.


Sorry we can't get rid of your memories of being brutally ass raped by Father Patrick, but we can make it so you remember enjoying the hell out of it.
 
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