If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Uproxx)   Not sure if racist: Paula Deen asked her black cook to dress like Aunt Jemima   (uproxx.com) divider line 241
    More: Obvious, Aunt Jemima, Paula Deen, law license  
•       •       •

9033 clicks; posted to Main » on 25 Jul 2013 at 7:04 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



241 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-07-26 12:52:10 AM  
I always pictured Paula as more of a Mrs. Butterworth's person, actually.
 
2013-07-26 12:56:42 AM  
 
2013-07-26 12:57:41 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: [img.fark.net image 500x212]

from andyurdog2


Gah, misspelled andyourdog2's name.

/That thread was the best Paula Deen thread, IMHO.
 
2013-07-26 12:58:30 AM  

El Pachuco: ecmoRandomNumbers: I have a friend who wears a do-rag and big hoop earrings when he makes pancakes. But that's because he's gay. And racist.

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 259x194]

Honey, ain't nothin wrong with that if you look good doin it.


...That was literally the first thing I thought of, and I haven't watched Tru Blood in  years.

/I need to go watch it
//Not in the least because that dude was KICK FARKING ASS.
 
2013-07-26 01:10:52 AM  

forbes01: i like how, just because she hires a black kitchen staff to make her food in front of her and asks them to wear a certain outfit, shes a racist. That would also mean that every time you walk into a sushi restaurant to eat, you are also being  a racist.


If the sushi restaurant had all the waiters wearing oversize round glasses and fake buck teeth, then yes.  Otherwise, no.
 
2013-07-26 01:14:56 AM  
Who cares?  Rich people's problems.
 
2013-07-26 01:16:55 AM  

PanicMan: forbes01: i like how, just because she hires a black kitchen staff to make her food in front of her and asks them to wear a certain outfit, shes a racist. That would also mean that every time you walk into a sushi restaurant to eat, you are also being  a racist.

If the sushi restaurant had all the waiters wearing oversize round glasses and fake buck teeth, then yes.  Otherwise, no.


www.jerrylewiscomedy.com
 
2013-07-26 01:43:29 AM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: [i.huffpost.com image 260x190]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/29/kkk-chicken-tenders-on-me_n _1 311228.html

[klansmen.jpg]


Why are all those gentlemen carrying didgeridoos?



www.sights-and-culture.com
 
2013-07-26 01:44:17 AM  
Is this the thread where white people who feel guilty are pretending that they would NEVER EVER EVER have a racist thought and demonizing someone who has had the misfortune of having one of those thoughts publicized?  Heck, lets give all white racists a lobotomy!!!

/ pretty much.
// EVERYONE has racists thoughts at times.  Most white people are most racist against white people.
 
2013-07-26 02:06:32 AM  

Don't Lag Me Bro: I don't know the context so I don't know if it was racist, unless she then told her to go pick cotton.

But seriously, USA, when will you learn that pre-made pancake mix and corn syrups are crap.

Pancakes made from scratch and maple syrup are the only way to go.


So your overgeneralization sounds like you believe nobody in the USA make pancakes from scratch and we all use crappy corn syrup.

I'm glad for you that you finally found a way to feel superior to an entire nation.
 
2013-07-26 02:20:48 AM  
The relevant photo.

indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com
 
2013-07-26 02:28:15 AM  

mongbiohazard: stirfrybry: Soup4Bonnie: stirfrybry: I'm beginning to think the people who dwell on racism are like the loudest homophobes

I've read this three times and it still does not compute.

Not too bright, are you?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mes g& forum=105&topic_id=1977210&mesg_id=1977278

Nope I'm not seeing it either. Sorry, we're not all fluent in stupid.


Now, now, let's be gentle. Stirfry says he's (she's? ou's?) only "beginning to think." For a beginning thinker, it's not a bad sentence. It's spelled correctly and is grammatically correct. Stirfry's posts will get better and better as he (she? ou?) moves from beginning thinking to intermediate thinking. Maybe some day, far in the future, there will be some advanced thinking and perhaps even synchronized thinking when there are more than two thoughts to rub together.

/don't line them up like that and we won't hit them for a line drive
 
2013-07-26 02:41:29 AM  

RexTalionis: You know, there are hundreds of serial killers in the US, about 95% of them are white


I was curious about this claim.  So a quick google shows you completely made it up, and it is wildly false.   But I'm sure if I spouted complete lies about how 95% of all killers are black, you would consider that racist. Think about that a moment.  Though I seriously doubt you will.

From  http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder


"Contrary to popular belief, serial killers span all racial groups. There are white, African-American, Hispanic, and Asian serial killers. The racial diversification of serial killers generally mirrors that of the overall U.S. population.

• Charles Ng, a native of Hong Kong, China, killed numerous victims in Northern California, in concert with Robert Lake.

• Derrick Todd Lee, an African-American, killed at least six women in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

• Coral Eugene Watts, an African-American, killed five victims in Michigan, fled the state to avoid detection, and murdered another 12 victims in Texas, before being apprehended.

• Rafael Resendez-Ramirez, a native of Mexico, murdered nine people in Kentucky, Texas, and Illinois, before turning himself in.

• Rory Conde, a Colombian native, was responsible for six prostitute homicides in the Miami, Florida area."
 
2013-07-26 02:42:17 AM  

dittybopper: OK, now, maybe this is just me, but doesn't the newer, non-Mammy  Aunt Jemima look like Fireman Bill after a particularly bad incident:

[changeoffaces.files.wordpress.com image 170x164][d44ytnim3cfy5.cloudfront.net image 345x345]

I mean, I get the negative implications of this image:

[24.media.tumblr.com image 482x600]

But quite honestly, I think the Mammy version is more attractive.  The new version is just farkin' disturbing.  I'd date the old Aunt Jemima, but I'd be too freaked out by the face of the new one.


For me the most ironic part of the way they updated the image of Jemima to be 'less racist' is that they narrowed her nose and thinned her lips. I assume that's supposed to make her more attractive and thus less mammy-like, but.....yeah kinda mixed message there.
 
2013-07-26 03:04:05 AM  

PainInTheASP: I really wish I could remember the Farker who put it best in one of the first Paula Deen threads:

"She's fifty years old and was born and raised in Georgia.  How the hell can anyone think that she's NOT racist?"

/Props to you.  You know who you are.


quelle horreur; that's a rough "fitty".   I thought she was like eighty or some shiat.
 
2013-07-26 04:08:55 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Coral Eugene Watts, an African-American, killed five victims in Michigan, fled the state to avoid detection, and murdered another 12 victims in Texas, before being apprehended.


And to really make some Farker's head explode, Texas did not sentence him to death.  Not only that, they released him.  Fortunately, he was extradited to Michigan upon his release where he died in prison.
 
2013-07-26 04:22:24 AM  

cc_rider: Gyrfalcon: PainInTheASP: I really wish I could remember the Farker who put it best in one of the first Paula Deen threads:

"She's fifty years old and was born and raised in Georgia.  How the hell can anyone think that she's NOT racist?"

/Props to you.  You know who you are.

My aged grandmother was born in West Virginia in 1916. She is not as racist as Paula Deen.

My grandmother was born in East Bumfark, Alabama around the same time give or take a year, and she was not racist at all, to my knowledge.I never heard a racist word or even an ethnic joke out of her mouth or Mom's.

It's not about where you were born, or even where you grew up. It's how you were raised.


I was on my phone, hence brevity.

The point here is age is not a factor; nor location of birth. All this b/s about how Paula Deen is an "older woman" and "raised in the South" so she can't help her "racist culture" or whatever--it's all pure, 100% unadulterated bullcrap. I'm almost 50, so watch the "older woman" thingy, first of all--anyone under 80 has grown up since WWII and anyone under 60 has lived their whole life since segregation was banned in all 50 states; so pretending we don't at least comprehend that overt racism is a no-no is getting into snorkel territory with the fecal matter.

Second, where you were born, raised, lived, died, reincarnated, is irrelevant in a global society, since it's been proven right here on Fark that you can live in the depths of multiculti and be as lily-white racist as any Aryan ever spawned, or tolerant even in the snowy depths of Alaska. And finally, racism isn't defined in a single act of brutality (like a half-white half-Hispanic man killing an African-American boy) or a single word (like a white woman calling a black robber a n*gger). Racism is defined in the way a person lives their whole life. A person might never use a single derogatory racist term and treat minorities with surface respect and yet be racist to the bone; and it might be possible for another person to use casual racial slurs and yet be more supportive of minorities than his so-called "tolerant" neighbors.

This haste to examine every individual action or word and declare it "racist" in a vacuum has led to the mess that got us the Zimmerman trial--Zimmerman may well have been a racist; but he's more an idiot who shouldn't be allowed out loose on the street. Deen may be a racist, but it isn't because of any single thing she's done or said--her whole persona screams noblesse oblige and patronage towards the "help" and picking out examples of her evil racism glosses over the greater harm she's done with her folksy surface charm and Southern butteryness. Bullying her colored servants into playacting house n*gger so she could pretend to be Scarlett O'Hara bespeaks a greater racism than any word or action Deen might say. What's sad is that it took so long for anyone to notice.
 
2013-07-26 04:32:35 AM  

ginandbacon: Diogenes: What, you thought she was just an incidental racist?  A social racist?  Only racist when she has a drink or two?

There are racists who try not to let on about it in public. Especially around the objects of their racism.


Apparently, she's not very good at that last part.
 
2013-07-26 05:06:08 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: RexTalionis: You know, there are hundreds of serial killers in the US, about 95% of them are white

I was curious about this claim.  So a quick google shows you completely made it up, and it is wildly false.   But I'm sure if I spouted complete lies about how 95% of all killers are black, you would consider that racist. Think about that a moment.  Though I seriously doubt you will.

From  http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder

"Contrary to popular belief, serial killers span all racial groups. There are white, African-American, Hispanic, and Asian serial killers. The racial diversification of serial killers generally mirrors that of the overall U.S. population.

• Charles Ng, a native of Hong Kong, China, killed numerous victims in Northern California, in concert with Robert Lake.

• Derrick Todd Lee, an African-American, killed at least six women in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

• Coral Eugene Watts, an African-American, killed five victims in Michigan, fled the state to avoid detection, and murdered another 12 victims in Texas, before being apprehended.

• Rafael Resendez-Ramirez, a native of Mexico, murdered nine people in Kentucky, Texas, and Illinois, before turning himself in.

• Rory Conde, a Colombian native, was responsible for six prostitute homicides in the Miami, Florida area."


He never stated that 100% of serial killers in the U.S. are white.

The percentage isn't 95%, but it's certainly over 80%. Excerpt from a 2009 Psychology Today article:

Statistically, more than 80% serial killers are white males, but it does not suggest that being a white male makes the person 80% more likely to become a serial killer, because the absolute frequency is so low.
 
2013-07-26 05:28:24 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Z1P2: So, for a dinner theatre, someone was asked to wear a costume, the horror!! I'm getting awefully sick and tired of the daily 'that's racist' crap.

In general I don't think that would be an issue.  It's closer to the borderline asking a black person to dress up as a black caricature, but it's done for legitimate theater, so I'm sure it's done with no ill-will in dinner theater as well.

What I think crosses this over the line is Deen's recently brought-to-light history of racism.  Someone known to tolerate and perpetuate racism asking someone to do something like that makes the situation seem more offensive.


Yeah i ain't buying it that she's racist. I just have too many brain cells left to buy into that bullshiat.
 
2013-07-26 06:57:33 AM  

Vectron: Why don't you guys give the Deen topic a rest for awhile and ponder if this guy is racist?

Tulsa man was charged Tuesday with first-degree murder in last month's deaths of a Calumet mother and her 5-year-old son.  Prosecutors allege Posey forcibly raped Gibbins and struck her on the head. They allege that after killing her, Posey set her house on fire. Bryor was in the house and died in the blaze, according to court documents.
Firefighters discovered the bodies about 4:40 a.m. after extinguishing the flames.

[cdn2.newsok.biz image 300x225]

[cdn2.newsok.biz image 424x404]


Who knows? Did he call her a cracker before he raped and murdered her? If so, could be. Are these people who probably made up a story about their baby being shot in the face by mystery black teens racist?
 
2013-07-26 07:01:28 AM  
I think Paula Deen has been so insulated from society by her money and inner circle that she honestly doesn't know what she did could be viewed as extremely offensive. She lives in a little bubble she made for herself. It's probably very comfortable in there for her.  I don't think she's a bad lady, but she is a somewhat selfish and very ignorant one. If she spent some time away from her yes men and more time out and about with actual real people, she'd come around fairly quickly.
 
2013-07-26 07:48:12 AM  
Paula probably has this fantasy about being Scarlett O'Hara.
She longs to return to the old plantation days of her youth.
 
2013-07-26 07:51:43 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: dittybopper: penthesilea: Paula Deen was raking in millions while paying the cook only $10/hr.  To try to make the cook dress like 'Mammy' on top of such low wages is just insult to injury.

OK, now I'm getting an image in my head of lesbian porn featuring Claudia Marie as Paula Deen and some random BBW chick dressed as Aunt Jemima.

I'm getting an image of me throwing rocks at you for even suggesting this.


It gets better:  Several well-endowed black slaves/sharecroppers and their white overseer/boss happen on the scene (which is happening in the kitchen, of course), and Claudia Marie/Paula Deen takes all the black guys on at the same time (with copious amounts of butter, of course), while the white guy gets the BBW/Mammy.

/Let me know if you want some more.
 
2013-07-26 08:52:08 AM  

stirfrybry: Soup4Bonnie: stirfrybry: I'm beginning to think the people who dwell on racism are like the loudest homophobes

I've read this three times and it still does not compute.

Not too bright, are you?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mes g& forum=105&topic_id=1977210&mesg_id=1977278


you think homophobia and racism are the same thing ? how odd.
 
2013-07-26 08:54:57 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: RexTalionis: You know, there are hundreds of serial killers in the US, about 95% of them are white

I was curious about this claim.  So a quick google shows you completely made it up, and it is wildly false.   But I'm sure if I spouted complete lies about how 95% of all killers are black, you would consider that racist. Think about that a moment.  Though I seriously doubt you will.

From  http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder


"Contrary to popular belief, serial killers span all racial groups. There are white, African-American, Hispanic, and Asian serial killers. The racial diversification of serial killers generally mirrors that of the overall U.S. population.

• Charles Ng, a native of Hong Kong, China, killed numerous victims in Northern California, in concert with Robert Lake.

• Derrick Todd Lee, an African-American, killed at least six women in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

• Coral Eugene Watts, an African-American, killed five victims in Michigan, fled the state to avoid detection, and murdered another 12 victims in Texas, before being apprehended.

• Rafael Resendez-Ramirez, a native of Mexico, murdered nine people in Kentucky, Texas, and Illinois, before turning himself in.

• Rory Conde, a Colombian native, was responsible for six prostitute homicides in the Miami, Florida area."


So that means most of them are white. The US is 72% white per the 2010 census.
 
2013-07-26 09:02:55 AM  

QueenMamaBee: So that means most of them are white. The US is 72% white per the 2010 census.


Yep.

But that's not shocking or informative in any real way.  It's like saying most left-handed people in the US are white, or most poor people are white.  You'd be shocked if that *WASN'T* the case.
 
2013-07-26 09:13:19 AM  

PainInTheASP: I really wish I could remember the Farker who put it best in one of the first Paula Deen threads:

"She's fifty years old and was born and raised in Georgia.  How the hell can anyone think that she's NOT racist?"

/Props to you.  You know who you are.


Actually she's in her mid 60s so, yeah there's no surprise here. Also nothing that prevents her from being a good cook and being the front for a moneymaking machine, which kept a bunch of people of all races employed until recently. Her restaurant at Harrah's casino had some decent stuff, but the banana pudding was excellent.
 
2013-07-26 09:18:52 AM  
Not to be an apologist for Mrs. Deen, but it sounds like this downfall is 10% Mrs. Deen's racism and 90% institutionalized racial discrimination. From a business standpoint it's her inside counsel and business advisers that should take most of the blame.
 
2013-07-26 09:28:54 AM  

SN1987a goes boom: What does Paula Deen need with a cook?


Who else is going to help her come up with amazing recipies like this:  http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/paula-deen/english-peas-recipe/ind e x.html
 
2013-07-26 09:53:23 AM  
This is about as racist as hiring mexicans to cut your grass.  If it was so demeaning to her cook, why didn't she speak up about it sooner?

I'm guessing there's money (or the promise of it) here somewhere; at least there seems to be more to the story.
 
2013-07-26 11:05:11 AM  

golden goat: This is about as racist as hiring mexicans to cut your grass.  If it was so demeaning to her cook, why didn't she speak up about it sooner?

I'm guessing there's money (or the promise of it) here somewhere; at least there seems to be more to the story.


Cooking isn't demeaning. It's dressing up like Aunt Jemima while cooking that's an issue.
 
2013-07-26 11:26:57 AM  
Cooking isn't demeaning. It's dressing up like Aunt Jemima while cooking that's an issue.


Why? I wouldn't have any problem dressing up as Colonel Sanders
Besides,  Aunt Jemima was a free woman, not a slave
 
2013-07-26 11:52:21 AM  

Kenny B: [i306.photobucket.com image 640x480]


Nice!  Corner of Market and Kerr...
 
2013-07-26 12:15:38 PM  
Gyrfalcon: The point here is age is not a factor; nor location of birth. All this b/s about how Paula Deen is an "older woman" and "raised in the South" so she can't help her "racist culture" or whatever--it's all pure, 100% unadulterated bullcrap. I'm almost 50, so watch the "older woman" thingy, first of all--anyone under 80 has grown up since WWII and anyone under 60 has lived their whole life since segregation was banned in all 50 states; so pretending we don't at least comprehend that overt racism is a no-no is getting into snorkel territory with the fecal matter.

Second, where you were born, raised, lived, died, reincarnated, is irrelevant in a global society, since it's been proven right here on Fark that you can live in the depths of multiculti and be as lily-white racist as any Aryan ever spawned, or tolerant even in the snowy depths of Alaska. And finally, racism isn't defined in a single act of brutality (like a half-white half-Hispanic man killing an African-American boy) or a single word (like a white woman calling a black robber a n*gger). Racism is defined in the way a person lives their whole life. A person might never use a single derogatory racist term and treat minorities with surface respect and yet be racist to the bone; and it might be possible for another person to use casual racial slurs and yet be more supportive of minorities than his so-called "tolerant" neighbors.

This haste to examine every individual action or word and declare it "racist" in a vacuum has led to the mess that got us the Zimmerman trial--Zimmerman may well have been a racist; but he's more an idiot who shouldn't be allowed out loose on the street. Deen may be a racist, but it isn't because of any single thing she's done or said--her whole persona screams noblesse oblige and patronage towards the "help" and picking out examples of her evil racism glosses over the greater harm she's done with her folksy surface charm and Southern butteryness. Bullying her colored servants into playacting house n*gger so she could pretend to be Scarlett O'Hara bespeaks a greater racism than any word or action Deen might say. What's sad is that it took so long for anyone to notice.

 
Nail on the farking head, and that's precisely the sort of thing that I encounter quite a bit of down here. The Old South in general is glorified with a lot of people who think of it as  Gone With the Wind rather than the harsh reality it was, and while it's okay to cling to certain things like the fashion and architecture and even the cuisine, a lot of people take it a bit too far in keeping a very similar attitude to what you described above and not realizing just how racist that is. And really... You don't have to use a single slur or burn any crosses for that to be horribly racist.

The attitude that Deen had toward her black workers in general reflects that she thought of them more as "the help" than a valued partner. This woman who she referred to as her "soul sister" and who even helped her develop some of the recipes that made Deen rich and famous was paid $10 an hour and was living in a beaten up trailer, but the Deen family in general were looking at the situation as if to say, "We don't see what the problem is. We're taking good care of her." Truth is, they weren't paying her what she was worth. They were paying her just as much as they could get away with while doing little favors here and there to keep her dependent upon them. That's not how you view a partner who should be able to be financially independent. That's how you view the live-in help.
 
2013-07-26 12:16:45 PM  

Pharmdawg: Actually she's in her mid 60s so, yeah there's no surprise here. Also nothing that prevents her from being a good cook and being the front for a moneymaking machine, which kept a bunch of people of all races employed until recently. Her restaurant at Harrah's casino had some decent stuff, but the banana pudding was excellent.


If you really miss it that much, it's a standard Southern banana pudding recipe that women in my family have been making since well before we heard of Paula Deen. You can even find it online, and it's insanely easy to customize should you feel creative.

/My stepmother still manages to fark it up. I have no idea how she does it. It's a talent or something.
 
2013-07-26 01:10:28 PM  
Deen may be a racist, but it isn't because of any single thing she's done or said--her whole persona screams noblesse oblige and patronage towards the "help" and picking out examples of her evil racism glosses over the greater harm she's done with her folksy surface charm and Southern butteryness. Bullying her colored servants into playacting house n*gger so she could pretend to be Scarlett O'Hara bespeaks a greater racism than any word or action Deen might say. What's sad is that it took so long for anyone to notice.

Then who gives a fark???
 
2013-07-26 02:01:03 PM  

doubled99: Deen may be a racist, but it isn't because of any single thing she's done or said--her whole persona screams noblesse oblige and patronage towards the "help" and picking out examples of her evil racism glosses over the greater harm she's done with her folksy surface charm and Southern butteryness. Bullying her colored servants into playacting house n*gger so she could pretend to be Scarlett O'Hara bespeaks a greater racism than any word or action Deen might say. What's sad is that it took so long for anyone to notice.

Then who gives a fark???


The operative word was "single," which is more obvious when you read the rest of the selection you quoted. The person who said that wasn't saying that she'd never done anything racist. The poster was saying that one incident on its own doesn't make Deen a racist, but rather a compilation of many things she's done in addition to her attitude in general. Again, that becomes more apparent as you read the rest of what was said beyond the first half of the first sentence.
 
2013-07-26 02:35:33 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: stirfrybry: I'm beginning to think the people who dwell on racism RUSH are like the loudest homophobes

[images.45cat.com image 600x603]



Now I know why you've been Baker Acted 5 times.
 
2013-07-26 03:24:08 PM  

dittybopper: Danger Avoid Death: dittybopper: penthesilea: Paula Deen was raking in millions while paying the cook only $10/hr.  To try to make the cook dress like 'Mammy' on top of such low wages is just insult to injury.

OK, now I'm getting an image in my head of lesbian porn featuring Claudia Marie as Paula Deen and some random BBW chick dressed as Aunt Jemima.

I'm getting an image of me throwing rocks at you for even suggesting this.

It gets better:  Several well-endowed black slaves/sharecroppers and their white overseer/boss happen on the scene (which is happening in the kitchen, of course), and Claudia Marie/Paula Deen takes all the black guys on at the same time (with copious amounts of butter, of course), while the white guy gets the BBW/Mammy.

/Let me know if you want some more.


I need some bigger rocks.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-27 02:34:42 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: I need some bigger rocks.


OHHHHH, Rocks, I read that as....never mind...........
 
Displayed 41 of 241 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report