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2013-07-25 05:43:20 PM  
fark em
 
2013-07-25 05:45:50 PM  
The estimated monthly premium from Cover Oregon for a single 25 year old making 30,000 is $209 with the maximum payout per year of $3,125 (This is the maximum you could pay for health care services during a year (e.g., co-pays, deductibles), separate from your premium payment. Whether you reach the maximum depends on the amount of health care services that you use. )

And let's be honest, this guy would probably still be on his parents insurance, since he's still using them as an ATM for everything else.

http://coveroregon.com/calculator.php
 
2013-07-25 05:46:18 PM  
Why did the hipster go to the hospital?

He fell in a firepit before it was cool
 
2013-07-25 05:47:15 PM  
The grim truth of Obamacare comes out... the eradication of Hipsters.  Now they can finally vote GOP in a non-ironic fashion.
 
2013-07-25 05:47:27 PM  
So the WSJ went around and asked people that don't make much money if they would be happy paying some insane insurance rate, while at the same time neglecting to tell those individuals that they would likely qualify for a credit to help pay for the insurance?

That's not disingenuous at all!

Bummed about having to wait to October to see what the rates will be in the exchanges.
 
2013-07-25 05:47:34 PM  
If you're drinking Whiskey Sours at the Horse Brass, you deserve what you get. It's the greatest craft beer pub in America.
 
2013-07-25 05:48:46 PM  

Klippoklondike: Why did the hipster go to the hospital?


Being 25, he was still covered by his parents.
 
2013-07-25 05:50:52 PM  
I can understand their concern. If they've ever had health issues they just go to the E.R., which has always been free.
 
2013-07-25 05:51:19 PM  
He did not have health insurance, and his medical bills last October, the Huffington Post reported, totaled $60,000 and rising.

Don't you think this is the real problem? Instead of figuring out how we should all be chipping in for everyone's inflated medical costs, how about we figure out how to reduce them?
 
2013-07-25 05:51:34 PM  

karmaceutical: The grim truth of Obamacare comes out... the eradication of Hipsters.  Now they can finally vote GOP in a non-ironic fashion.


OTOH, many will now support Obamacare simply because of the eradication of hipsters.
 
2013-07-25 05:54:00 PM  

DarwiOdrade: karmaceutical: The grim truth of Obamacare comes out... the eradication of Hipsters.  Now they can finally vote GOP in a non-ironic fashion.

OTOH, many will now support Obamacare simply because of the eradication of hipsters.


I see no problem with this.
 
2013-07-25 05:54:24 PM  
Um, I'm pretty sure they aren't going to pay shiat after federal subsidies
 
2013-07-25 05:55:50 PM  

jigger: He did not have health insurance, and his medical bills last October, the Huffington Post reported, totaled $60,000 and rising.

Don't you think this is the real problem? Instead of figuring out how we should all be chipping in for everyone's inflated medical costs, how about we figure out how to reduce them?


We could but it will take a long time for us to get to single payer healthcare. This generation of Republicans pretty much just has to die.
 
2013-07-25 05:59:53 PM  
www.vanityfairrewards.com
What's with all the hate for hipsters? I think they look pretty good.
 
2013-07-25 05:59:59 PM  
The hipsters don't deserve freedom.
 
2013-07-25 06:02:13 PM  
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2013-07-25 06:02:34 PM  
"I agree that health insurance is important, but nothing bad ever happened to me," says one guy. And another: "There's so many expenses that you don't want to think about health care. We don't know a lot about it. That's probably because we don't need it that much."

Yeah, keep that in mind the next time you have a 12 hour drinking binge for a friend's going away party and take a dive down the concrete stairs outside of her apartment, landing on your chin, knocking one tooth out, breaking another in half and turning a third into a mass of spiderweb cracks. Then you have the ER visit while you check for a concussion.

Then go ahead and think that it "can't happen to you". Me? I had gotten lucky and gotten insurance for the first time about 2 months before.
 
2013-07-25 06:03:36 PM  
Did the cheat sheet include the subsidies and credits for low-income people?  No?  What a FARKING SURPRISE

Did they mention that people who can't afford health insurance even with all that don't pay the penalty?  No?  REALLY?  YOU'RE KIDDING ME!

God, we need real farking journalism in this country, not corporations with agendas to push.
 
2013-07-25 06:10:44 PM  

DemonEater: Did the cheat sheet include the subsidies and credits for low-income people?  No?


How do you know that it didn't include that?
All of the online tools I have seen include what the expected tax-payer provided benefit is.

Did they mention that people who can't afford health insurance even with all that don't pay the penalty?  No?  REALLY?  YOU'RE KIDDING ME!

Are you sure that if you don't contribute your expected portion that you don't pay a penalty?
 
2013-07-25 06:10:56 PM  
I think we can all agree that death panels are appropriate, nay mandatory, for this group.
 
2013-07-25 06:11:09 PM  

Saints_Gambit: If you're drinking Whiskey Sours at the Horse Brass, you deserve what you get. It's the greatest craft beer pub in America.


If one is the sort of person who actually drinks beer, I suppose. I wouldn't know - I quit drinking beer when it got so obvious.
 
2013-07-25 06:13:59 PM  
I kept trying to scroll down, but that was actually the the whole damn article. What the hell happened over at TNR? They the new overflow for rejected Gawker interns?
 
2013-07-25 06:19:56 PM  

jso2897: Saints_Gambit: If you're drinking Whiskey Sours at the Horse Brass, you deserve what you get. It's the greatest craft beer pub in America.

If one is the sort of person who actually drinks beer, I suppose. I wouldn't know - I quit drinking beer when it got so obvious.


!!!!!{   }!!!!!

Recognize the above emoticon?

No.

I just made it up. It's me throttling you.
 
2013-07-25 06:23:08 PM  

odinsposse: jigger: He did not have health insurance, and his medical bills last October, the Huffington Post reported, totaled $60,000 and rising.

Don't you think this is the real problem? Instead of figuring out how we should all be chipping in for everyone's inflated medical costs, how about we figure out how to reduce them?

We could but it will take a long time for us to get to single payer healthcare. This generation of Republicans pretty much just has to die.


What do you think are the main forces that led to the outrageous medical charges that we have today?
 
2013-07-25 06:45:18 PM  
None has health insurance, and none makes more than $30,000. And most of them are wary of what Obamacare would cost them. "I agree that health insurance is important, but nothing bad ever happened to me," says one guy.

And this Einstein makes less than $30,000/year.  You don't say.
 
2013-07-25 06:59:26 PM  

Hi! I can lick my own eyebrows: jso2897: Saints_Gambit: If you're drinking Whiskey Sours at the Horse Brass, you deserve what you get. It's the greatest craft beer pub in America.

If one is the sort of person who actually drinks beer, I suppose. I wouldn't know - I quit drinking beer when it got so obvious.

!!!!!{   }!!!!!

Recognize the above emoticon?

No.

I just made it up. It's me throttling you.


You are now the color of beer on my favorites... well, it's orange really, because that's about as close as Fark will let me get to the color of beer.

Which is strange. I mean honestly, if you're not certain the color of the stuff, just wait for the next time for Drew to get plastered and bust his head open. I'm pretty certain by now, that's what his blood is made of.
 
2013-07-25 07:31:19 PM  
hipstertized.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-25 07:31:49 PM  

Mikey1969: "I agree that health insurance is important, but nothing bad ever happened to me," says one guy. And another: "There's so many expenses that you don't want to think about health care. We don't know a lot about it. That's probably because we don't need it that much."

Yeah, keep that in mind the next time you have a 12 hour drinking binge for a friend's going away party and take a dive down the concrete stairs outside of her apartment, landing on your chin, knocking one tooth out, breaking another in half and turning a third into a mass of spiderweb cracks. Then you have the ER visit while you check for a concussion.

Then go ahead and think that it "can't happen to you". Me? I had gotten lucky and gotten insurance for the first time about 2 months before.


LMAO - "Obamacare is necessary because i'm too farking irresponsible to not binge drink and fall down the stairs like an alcoholic, so I need you to pay for my irresponsible behavior" FTW.
 
2013-07-25 07:40:26 PM  
Just remember: your insurance premiums probably paid for some uninsured person's ER visit in the most inefficient way possible.
 
2013-07-25 07:47:30 PM  

SunsetLament: Mikey1969: "I agree that health insurance is important, but nothing bad ever happened to me," says one guy. And another: "There's so many expenses that you don't want to think about health care. We don't know a lot about it. That's probably because we don't need it that much."

Yeah, keep that in mind the next time you have a 12 hour drinking binge for a friend's going away party and take a dive down the concrete stairs outside of her apartment, landing on your chin, knocking one tooth out, breaking another in half and turning a third into a mass of spiderweb cracks. Then you have the ER visit while you check for a concussion.

Then go ahead and think that it "can't happen to you". Me? I had gotten lucky and gotten insurance for the first time about 2 months before.

LMAO - "Obamacare is necessary because i'm too farking irresponsible to not binge drink and fall down the stairs like an alcoholic, so I need you to pay for my irresponsible behavior" FTW.


Bad! Bad! Bad!

*smacks nose with newspaper*

Go back and re-read his post again, think about what the private insurance industry is, and apologize to the rest of fark for your idiotic post.
 
2013-07-25 08:01:01 PM  

SunsetLament: Mikey1969: "I agree that health insurance is important, but nothing bad ever happened to me," says one guy. And another: "There's so many expenses that you don't want to think about health care. We don't know a lot about it. That's probably because we don't need it that much."

Yeah, keep that in mind the next time you have a 12 hour drinking binge for a friend's going away party and take a dive down the concrete stairs outside of her apartment, landing on your chin, knocking one tooth out, breaking another in half and turning a third into a mass of spiderweb cracks. Then you have the ER visit while you check for a concussion.

Then go ahead and think that it "can't happen to you". Me? I had gotten lucky and gotten insurance for the first time about 2 months before.

LMAO - "Obamacare is necessary because i'm too farking irresponsible to not binge drink and fall down the stairs like an alcoholic, so I need you to pay for my irresponsible behavior" FTW.


Yeah, the average hipster probably enjoys PBR responsibly and could never have that happen to them.

/ When it happened to me, I was giving a girl a piggy back ride and her vag curb stomped me into the pavement.
// Thank god I had insurance.
 
2013-07-25 08:01:47 PM  

SunsetLament: Mikey1969: "I agree that health insurance is important, but nothing bad ever happened to me," says one guy. And another: "There's so many expenses that you don't want to think about health care. We don't know a lot about it. That's probably because we don't need it that much."

Yeah, keep that in mind the next time you have a 12 hour drinking binge for a friend's going away party and take a dive down the concrete stairs outside of her apartment, landing on your chin, knocking one tooth out, breaking another in half and turning a third into a mass of spiderweb cracks. Then you have the ER visit while you check for a concussion.

Then go ahead and think that it "can't happen to you". Me? I had gotten lucky and gotten insurance for the first time about 2 months before.

LMAO - "Obamacare is necessary because i'm too farking irresponsible to not binge drink and fall down the stairs like an alcoholic, so I need you to pay for my irresponsible behavior" FTW.


Well, obviously the tax money that went to your education was a waste, we might as well get our money's worth somewhere.

The point was people thinking that they don't need insurance is just slightly less stupid than you just came across as. I merely used an extreme example, you're the one who went full derp all up in this biatch.
 
2013-07-25 08:03:11 PM  

Mikey1969: "I agree that health insurance is important, but nothing bad ever happened to me," says one guy. And another: "There's so many expenses that you don't want to think about health care. We don't know a lot about it. That's probably because we don't need it that much."

Yeah, keep that in mind the next time you have a 12 hour drinking binge for a friend's going away party and take a dive down the concrete stairs outside of her apartment, landing on your chin, knocking one tooth out, breaking another in half and turning a third into a mass of spiderweb cracks. Then you have the ER visit while you check for a concussion.

Then go ahead and think that it "can't happen to you". Me? I had gotten lucky and gotten insurance for the first time about 2 months before.


Quite frankly that quote sounds made up or it is out of context
 
2013-07-25 08:06:16 PM  

themindiswatching: Just remember: your insurance premiums probably paid for some uninsured person's ER visit in the most inefficient way possible.


Have you actually ever been to an ER? The make the uninsured people there for non-life-threatening stuff wait until the ER docs are bored and there are no actual emergencies.

In other words, they're actually more efficient. Now you'll have these people clogging up actual appointment slots.
 
2013-07-25 08:09:24 PM  
www.indiana.edu
Looks like he hit the right three people.
---Capt Willard
 
2013-07-25 08:12:00 PM  
Hipsters: the minority it's OK to hate.
 
2013-07-25 08:20:58 PM  

Mikey1969: SunsetLament: Mikey1969: "I agree that health insurance is important, but nothing bad ever happened to me," says one guy. And another: "There's so many expenses that you don't want to think about health care. We don't know a lot about it. That's probably because we don't need it that much."

Yeah, keep that in mind the next time you have a 12 hour drinking binge for a friend's going away party and take a dive down the concrete stairs outside of her apartment, landing on your chin, knocking one tooth out, breaking another in half and turning a third into a mass of spiderweb cracks. Then you have the ER visit while you check for a concussion.

Then go ahead and think that it "can't happen to you". Me? I had gotten lucky and gotten insurance for the first time about 2 months before.

LMAO - "Obamacare is necessary because i'm too farking irresponsible to not binge drink and fall down the stairs like an alcoholic, so I need you to pay for my irresponsible behavior" FTW.

Well, obviously the tax money that went to your education was a waste, we might as well get our money's worth somewhere.

The point was people thinking that they don't need insurance is just slightly less stupid than you just came across as. I merely used an extreme example, you're the one who went full derp all up in this biatch.


You wrote it.  I simply mocked you for your embarrassing example.
 
2013-07-25 08:26:00 PM  

shamanwest: SunsetLament: Mikey1969: "I agree that health insurance is important, but nothing bad ever happened to me," says one guy. And another: "There's so many expenses that you don't want to think about health care. We don't know a lot about it. That's probably because we don't need it that much."

Yeah, keep that in mind the next time you have a 12 hour drinking binge for a friend's going away party and take a dive down the concrete stairs outside of her apartment, landing on your chin, knocking one tooth out, breaking another in half and turning a third into a mass of spiderweb cracks. Then you have the ER visit while you check for a concussion.

Then go ahead and think that it "can't happen to you". Me? I had gotten lucky and gotten insurance for the first time about 2 months before.

LMAO - "Obamacare is necessary because i'm too farking irresponsible to not binge drink and fall down the stairs like an alcoholic, so I need you to pay for my irresponsible behavior" FTW.

Bad! Bad! Bad!

*smacks nose with newspaper*

Go back and re-read his post again, think about what the private insurance industry is, and apologize to the rest of fark for your idiotic post.


We have been told (time and again) that the reason everyone needs to be mandated to carry health insurance is because when the uninsured go to the emergency room, everybody else is forced to pay for them.  Then (above) he tells us that this is certainly true and tells of the time that he would have been totally screwed without insurance when he fell down the stairs in a drunken stupor ... and ... more importantly, that this situation could happen to anyone and it's why we need mandated insurance.

My response is that, alternatively, we could just expect everyone to behave responsibly and, if they don't, fark them - they can bleed out at the bottom of the stairs for all I care.  Personal responsibility is a nonexistent virtue amongst American liberals.
 
2013-07-25 08:43:15 PM  

Goimir: themindiswatching: Just remember: your insurance premiums probably paid for some uninsured person's ER visit in the most inefficient way possible.

Have you actually ever been to an ER? The make the uninsured people there for non-life-threatening stuff wait until the ER docs are bored and there are no actual emergencies.

In other words, they're actually more efficient. Now you'll have these people clogging up actual appointment slots.


They're still going to get a $2000+ bill in the mail that will go unpaid.

/and EMTALA says they're not supposed to ask you for insurance info until after treatment.
 
2013-07-25 08:50:11 PM  

SunsetLament: shamanwest: SunsetLament: Mikey1969: "I agree that health insurance is important, but nothing bad ever happened to me," says one guy. And another: "There's so many expenses that you don't want to think about health care. We don't know a lot about it. That's probably because we don't need it that much."

Yeah, keep that in mind the next time you have a 12 hour drinking binge for a friend's going away party and take a dive down the concrete stairs outside of her apartment, landing on your chin, knocking one tooth out, breaking another in half and turning a third into a mass of spiderweb cracks. Then you have the ER visit while you check for a concussion.

Then go ahead and think that it "can't happen to you". Me? I had gotten lucky and gotten insurance for the first time about 2 months before.

LMAO - "Obamacare is necessary because i'm too farking irresponsible to not binge drink and fall down the stairs like an alcoholic, so I need you to pay for my irresponsible behavior" FTW.

Bad! Bad! Bad!

*smacks nose with newspaper*

Go back and re-read his post again, think about what the private insurance industry is, and apologize to the rest of fark for your idiotic post.

We have been told (time and again) that the reason everyone needs to be mandated to carry health insurance is because when the uninsured go to the emergency room, everybody else is forced to pay for them.  Then (above) he tells us that this is certainly true and tells of the time that he would have been totally screwed without insurance when he fell down the stairs in a drunken stupor ... and ... more importantly, that this situation could happen to anyone and it's why we need mandated insurance.

My response is that, alternatively, we could just expect everyone to behave responsibly and, if they don't, fark them - they can bleed out at the bottom of the stairs for all I care.  Personal responsibility is a nonexistent virtue amongst American liberals.


And intelligence is non-existent among American conservatives. We can do this all day. The point is, you're biatching about something that isn't part of 0bummercare. You're biatching about something that is part of private insurance. The healthy insured customers of Company A who take care of themselves, are not chronically ill, and don't get themselves hurt doing stupid shiat subsidize the care of the rest of the insured of Company A who don't do those things. If I pay $200 a month in premiums, let's say, but my care costs the insurance company $500, where do you think that money comes from (hypothetical numbers)?

Or are you one of those silly people who thinks insurance works as you get out exactly what you pay in in benefits?

The purpose of the mandate is to cover the cost of business for insurance companies. Increase the risk pool to cover the cost of care for the people you can no longer refuse and/or jack up rates on. If you don't like the mandate, don't blame us liebrulz. Blame the Republicans. They wanted the mandate in the first place. Us liebrulz wanted single-payer, thank you very much.

Well some of us at least.
 
2013-07-25 08:54:37 PM  

themindiswatching: Goimir: themindiswatching: Just remember: your insurance premiums probably paid for some uninsured person's ER visit in the most inefficient way possible.

Have you actually ever been to an ER? The make the uninsured people there for non-life-threatening stuff wait until the ER docs are bored and there are no actual emergencies.

In other words, they're actually more efficient. Now you'll have these people clogging up actual appointment slots.

They're still going to get a $2000+ bill in the mail that will go unpaid.

/and EMTALA says they're not supposed to ask you for insurance info until after treatment.


If you're there for sniffles or somesuch, you'll be made to wait. Also, regardless of the $2000 bill, what does it cost the hospital to care for those people when there are no emergencies?
 
2013-07-25 09:32:59 PM  

Mantour: [hipstertized.files.wordpress.com image 850x648]


Why did they shoop his face?  It was already him.
 
2013-07-25 09:39:37 PM  

jigger: odinsposse: jigger: He did not have health insurance, and his medical bills last October, the Huffington Post reported, totaled $60,000 and rising.

Don't you think this is the real problem? Instead of figuring out how we should all be chipping in for everyone's inflated medical costs, how about we figure out how to reduce them?

We could but it will take a long time for us to get to single payer healthcare. This generation of Republicans pretty much just has to die.

What do you think are the main forces that led to the outrageous medical charges that we have today?


A for-profit system in a totally inelastic market leading to endless market failure.
 
2013-07-25 09:40:30 PM  

SunsetLament: Mikey1969: SunsetLament: Mikey1969: "I agree that health insurance is important, but nothing bad ever happened to me," says one guy. And another: "There's so many expenses that you don't want to think about health care. We don't know a lot about it. That's probably because we don't need it that much."

Yeah, keep that in mind the next time you have a 12 hour drinking binge for a friend's going away party and take a dive down the concrete stairs outside of her apartment, landing on your chin, knocking one tooth out, breaking another in half and turning a third into a mass of spiderweb cracks. Then you have the ER visit while you check for a concussion.

Then go ahead and think that it "can't happen to you". Me? I had gotten lucky and gotten insurance for the first time about 2 months before.

LMAO - "Obamacare is necessary because i'm too farking irresponsible to not binge drink and fall down the stairs like an alcoholic, so I need you to pay for my irresponsible behavior" FTW.

Well, obviously the tax money that went to your education was a waste, we might as well get our money's worth somewhere.

The point was people thinking that they don't need insurance is just slightly less stupid than you just came across as. I merely used an extreme example, you're the one who went full derp all up in this biatch.

You wrote it.  I simply mocked you for your embarrassing example.


You should really practice, your mocking is pretty bush league at this point.

It DID distract from the fact that you don't actually understand how examples work, although only for a little while...
 
2013-07-25 09:45:59 PM  

SunsetLament: We have been told (time and again) that the reason everyone needs to be mandated to carry health insurance is because when the uninsured go to the emergency room, everybody else is forced to pay for them.  Then (above) he tells us that this is certainly true and tells of the time that he would have been totally screwed without insurance when he fell down the stairs in a drunken stupor ... and ... more importantly, that this situation could happen to anyone and it's why we need mandated insurance.


Jesus, you really ARE that stupid, aren't you?

My point was not that people need mandated health insurance, but that the "nothing can ever happen t me because I'm bulletproof at 25" attitude is pretty stupid.

I even said it right here, you stupid twit:

Then go ahead and think that it "can't happen to you". Me? I had gotten lucky and gotten insurance for the first time about 2 months before.

Are you moving your lips when you read these posts? Maybe something is getting lost in translation there...

You seem to be pretty much alone, are you the elected representative for the Right tonight? If so, they should hold a recall election immediately.
 
2013-07-25 09:48:20 PM  
actually the real victims are young people not on their parents insurance in general
 
2013-07-25 09:52:04 PM  

themindiswatching: /and EMTALA says they're not supposed to ask you for insurance info until after treatment.


I've never had the ER wait until after treatment to ask about insurance. You may make your co-pay on the way out the door, but in most ERs, you're lucky if you can tell them why you're there before they ask about your insurance.
 
2013-07-25 10:01:22 PM  
Obama is king.
Judges form the aristocracy, and rule over fiefdoms formally known as states.
US Senators form a leisure class of gentlemen, from whom nothing is expected.
I believe that Universities and "non-profits" now fill a role that once was filled by churches and monasteries back in the first feudal age. They pay no taxes, they own great stretches of real estate, they support large numbers of people directly, and they possess great wealth (what's Harvard's endowment??). They perform a "social service" and provide for the salvation, of sorts, of the people who provide money- Salvation being defined as future employability and/or buttressed self-image that you are "a good guy" with correct views.
And the rest of us labor is the fields, lamenting our servitude to distant tyrants.
The first Feudal Age at least had the concept of Chivalry. This second Feudal Age has the concept of Kim Kardashian.
 
2013-07-25 10:11:45 PM  
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-07-25 10:14:43 PM  
"Bicyclists do get hit by buses. " and semis and vans and pedestrians ...

Why yes, I do live in Portland.
 
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