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(New York Daily News)   If you want to eat at one of Brooklyn's ultra-hip restaurants, prepare to "pre-eat" and wait in line for two hours, because many don't take reservations   (nydailynews.com) divider line 50
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2013-07-25 02:51:08 PM
5 votes:
Everyone interviewed for that article needs a punch to the face.
2013-07-25 02:47:37 PM
5 votes:
"pre eat?" fark you. seriously. fark you.
2013-07-25 03:49:31 PM
4 votes:
My dad and I went to some place that supposedly had the "Best Lobster Rolls in Boston". We walked in and the waitress said with a straight face that the wait was two and a half hours. They also took no reservations.

We walked literally one restaurant down, were seated immediately, and ate some pretty damn good lobster rolls. Considering the ingredients are lobster and bread I can't imagine what might have been so much better at the first place that's worth waiting so long.
2013-07-25 03:51:36 PM
3 votes:
CSB:

Not my idea, read it in a magazine years back, but when the littles were, well, little, we would serve them a sit-down dinner at home before we went out to a big restaurant. Not talking family spots that cater to kids, but the more formal places. The kids would feast on their favorite chicken fingers or mac & cheese or $latestfoodcraving, and then when we went to the restaurant we'd simply let them order a dessert from the menu.

Not only did it keep prices down, but the kids were interested in going to the restaurant, and were easier to handle because they weren't waiting interminably (for a kid) for course 3: warm water on a fifteen course menu or some silliness. Add in the bonus that we didn't have to shell for a babysitter and could actually expose the littles to something new, inexpensively, and it was one of the best articles I've ever put to use.

/CSB
2013-07-25 03:08:44 PM
3 votes:
no food, anywhere, is worth a 2 hour wait.

These crazy farks that wait hours for these Cronut things are insane.  Those farking pastries better cute cancer!
2013-07-25 03:55:51 PM
2 votes:

InmanRoshi: I never understood what's the incentive for a restaurant to take reservations in the first place.


Because treating your customers well increases their likelihood of return, as well as whether they'll tell others about your restaurant.

So a potential table just sits there empty bringing in no revenue while the reserving party is late and/or no shows?   The fact that they have to take reservations suggest they can't meet current demand of waiting customers.

Ah, I see... You apparently think that reservations are binding contracts or something, and once someone reserves a table, you have to set fire to it if they don't show up. What's wrong with taking reservations, and then giving up the table if they're late or a no show? If they're early or on time, though, then why treat them like some random walk-in who may never come back?

Additionally, if a restaurant takes reservations, then they can pre-adjust for rushes. For example, rather than having 50 couples show up all wanting a table at 8:00 PM, if you're taking reservations hours in advance, you can stagger them from 7:30 to 8:30. No one has to wait, your kitchen and waitstaff don't get slammed, your service is better, tips will be better, and customers will have a better time and will more likely come back.
2013-07-25 03:52:08 PM
2 votes:

Tigger: Brooklyn is a place for people who want to experience gritty urban authenticity.

Of course none of these people know what gritty urban authenticity is, or how farking unpleasant it is for real.


But you can be damn sure they're calling all their friends back in Indiana to tell them all about it.

There are a million places to eat really well in this city.  A two hour wait?  Fark off.
2013-07-25 03:51:25 PM
2 votes:
Hipsters, is there anything they can't ruin?

As George Carlin would say, "Pre-suck my genital situation!"
2013-07-25 03:50:10 PM
2 votes:
The shiat people will put themselves threw in the name of trends and so that they can be on top of the latest trends.

I also love the people that are sitting there complaining about the 2 hour wait. If you don't like it, don't wait.
2013-07-25 03:46:29 PM
2 votes:
If I can't be seated in 10-15 minutes, I am out of there. I once waited for a half hour at one of those "you gotta  eat there!" restaurants in St. Augustine. What a pathetic disappointment.
2013-07-25 03:46:22 PM
2 votes:
You willing to wait AND pay just to be trendy, you deserve to wait twice as long and pay twice as much.
2013-07-25 03:46:20 PM
2 votes:
If the hipsters "pre-eat," pretty soon they won't be able to fit into their skinny jeans any more, so it's best for them to just starve themselves for two more hours.
2013-07-25 03:45:51 PM
2 votes:

PainInTheASP: Tigger: Brooklyn is a place for people who want to experience gritty urban authenticity.

Of course none of these people know what gritty urban authenticity is, or how farking unpleasant it is for real.

When I hear "urban authenticity" I think urine-tinged parking garages.


And hobos shiatting on bus stop benches.
2013-07-25 03:40:47 PM
2 votes:
People are so stupid that they believe somethign is good just because you have to wait for it. Critical thinking is dead.
2013-07-25 03:40:32 PM
2 votes:
Brooklyn is a place for people who want to experience gritty urban authenticity.

Of course none of these people know what gritty urban authenticity is, or how farking unpleasant it is for real.
2013-07-25 03:40:06 PM
2 votes:
But guys, the the mud soup and charcoal arugula is outrageous there.
2013-07-25 03:35:07 PM
2 votes:
I like the concept of having food served to me in the comfort of my automobile. I can belch, fart & scratch my genitals without incurring offence to other diners.
It's a win-win for all concerned.
2013-07-25 03:33:00 PM
2 votes:

ManateeGag: no food, anywhere, is worth a 2 hour wait.


Well, if you're waiting on a game trail for it to walk by, well, that's not all that offensive to me.  In fact, I rather enjoy it.
wee [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 03:20:47 PM
2 votes:

Slaxl: The whole point of reservations is so we don't have to wait. Why needlessly bring that back?


Because making people wait adds the perception of value.  Its like those stupid chain restaurants (Islands, Cheescake Factory, et al.) that always make you wait a little while.  They're trying to make you think you're getting something your not.  Why people would go to Brooklyn to wait in line is beyond me, however.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah, THIS. Fark that noise. And I can almost guarantee you that what we "pre-eat" at my house will be better than what the restaurant is serving, though probably not nearly as precious.

 
My thoughts exactly.  I made sous vide scallops pan seared in beurre noisette the other night.  No reason to eat out, definitely no reason to wait two hours to do so, unless it's for something I can't (or won't) make at home.  French Laundry or whole-hog BBQ come to mind.
2013-07-25 03:08:47 PM
2 votes:
The whole point of reservations is so we don't have to wait. Why needlessly bring that back?
2013-07-25 03:07:30 PM
2 votes:

FlashHarry: "pre eat?" fark you. seriously. fark you.


Yeah, THIS.  Fark that noise.  And I can almost guarantee you that what we "pre-eat" at my house will be better than what the restaurant is serving, though probably not nearly as precious.
2013-07-25 03:05:10 PM
2 votes:

ZAZ: Stop feeling so special. Long waits are not an exclusive Brooklyn thing.


Very true.  Hell, I was out with some people after a work thing and they wanted to go to dinner at Olive Garden afterwards (it was a group consensus and I figured it wasn't worth the fight).  We got there and were told it would be at least an hour to get a table.  Thankfully rational thought prevailed and we just went to a brewpub down the street instead that had much better beer, better food, and no wait.

I'm not against no-reservation policies.  It seems the fairest way to do things - the people that really want to go and are willing to wait can do that, the ones who aren't that invested in the place will go somewhere else.  The restaurant doesn't have to worry about no-shows and empty tables, and diners don't have to worry about being hurried out of their seats to make room for the next reservation.
2013-07-25 05:15:22 PM
1 votes:
Oh, they take reservations. But from a phone line shared only with Amex Platinum and Centurion concierges
wee [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 04:34:49 PM
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: So do you have a dedicated sous vide machine, or did you make one yourself? (SO jealous, I really want a sous vide.)


I made one out of a digital temp controller, a spare electrical box I had laying around and a piece of extension cord.  It's really simple to make, and costs around $35.  Here's a video of me testing it right after I first wired it all together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt6eho1GFF8

I hooked up an old crock pot to it: http://i.imgur.com/RY7BqXD.jpg  You can also use a rice cooker if you like, but the ceramic gives you a little more "thermal battery".  Lots of folks say you need to stir the water or whatever, but since it heats from all around, there's no real need.

Best steaks you can eat, let me tell you.  For an inch and a half, they stay in for two hours.  Then out of the bag and into a hot, buttery pan 60 seconds per side. Really nice crust, and almost zero internal transition between medium rare and the crusty outside.

I'll build one for you if you like, for the cost of the parts.  Send me an email if you're interested.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: You gonna deglaze that farkin' pan?


Hell yeah. Another good reason not to make steak on the grill!
2013-07-25 04:26:52 PM
1 votes:
Fark brooklyn and fark hipsters.  If you blow your life waiting on shiatty greasy food prepared by hepatitis-ridden emo kids in barely-"renovated" tenement buildings with inadequate power, water, and sanitation and you want to live in a place of the same description and overpay for both, don't turn around and tell me how cool you are.  Take your farking fixie and go back to Great Falls.
2013-07-25 04:24:12 PM
1 votes:

brap: Al Di La is pretty excellent as is Roberta's.  Have I ever stood in line two hours to eat at either of them?  Hell no.

But Al Di La is good enough where if I'm walking by it and it looks fairly empty, I will eat there without a second thought.



Especially since Al Di La's wine bar down the block serves the same menu and often has little or no wait (I've walked in there without a wait, when the main restaurant was telling people it would be an hour or more).
2013-07-25 04:12:23 PM
1 votes:

tricycleracer: It's a city full of people who moved to New York to be New Yorkers.  The problem is that all the transplants are unknowingly taking cues from each other.


Yea and the natives are too stupid to leave
2013-07-25 04:04:36 PM
1 votes:

naughtyrev: Treygreen13: So I got out my phone and called the restaurant and made a reservation for 5 minutes after I called. Then I walked up and told her I had a reservation and that I was early.

I did this in DC recently. Walking around, see someplace that looked good, hopped on OpenTable and booked, then walked in the door, past lines and declared I had a reservation. Worked every time, and just made me wonder what the hell the people in line were thinking.


Or how they were able to make you a reservation when they obviously had a huge line of people waiting to get in.
2013-07-25 04:02:30 PM
1 votes:
I hate hipsters. I don't get them.
And I'm only 28
/stay off my lawn and what not
2013-07-25 04:00:12 PM
1 votes:

Cyberluddite: wee: Because making people wait adds the perception of value. Its like those stupid chain restaurants (Islands, Cheescake Factory, et al.) that always make you wait a little while. They're trying to make you think you're getting something your not.

I always assumed that the real purpose of making people wait when the place isn't full is to get people to go into the bar and suck down some wildly overpriced, high-profit drinks to kill time.  Especially since the "your table isn't quite ready yet, it'll be about 15 minutes or so" statement is almost always followed up with "if you want to just wait in the bar, we'll let you know as soon as your table is ready."


To which I should add, BTW, that I generally refuse the offer to take a seat in the bar, and say, "that's OK, I'll just wait right here."  Magically, my table seems to suddenly become "ready" much faster than originally estimated when they realize that they aren't going to be able to soak me for some extra drinks in the bar and that I intend to just stand around and clog up the reception area instead, so they might as well let me sit down at my table now.
2013-07-25 03:58:43 PM
1 votes:
Next Article, "Brooklyn  Food Trucks cater to those waiting for a table"
2013-07-25 03:57:44 PM
1 votes:
Hey, if some loser wants to ruin their own evening, that's their problem and prerogative.

In New York and pretty much every other civilized town there are countless other options that you can and should take advantage of rather than sitting around for 2 hours like an idiot.

"no-reservation" policies are disrespectful of the customer, as it treats the restaurant's time as more valuable than yours.  When the customer is put in second place (or farther back) that's a problem.
2013-07-25 03:53:59 PM
1 votes:

wee: Because making people wait adds the perception of value. Its like those stupid chain restaurants (Islands, Cheescake Factory, et al.) that always make you wait a little while. They're trying to make you think you're getting something your not.


I always assumed that the real purpose of making people wait when the place isn't full is to get people to go into the bar and suck down some wildly overpriced, high-profit drinks to kill time.  Especially since the "your table isn't quite ready yet, it'll be about 15 minutes or so" statement is almost always followed up with "if you want to just wait in the bar, we'll let you know as soon as your table is ready."
2013-07-25 03:52:12 PM
1 votes:

Hoboclown: My dad and I went to some place that supposedly had the "Best Lobster Rolls in Boston". We walked in and the waitress said with a straight face that the wait was two and a half hours. They also took no reservations.

We walked literally one restaurant down, were seated immediately, and ate some pretty damn good lobster rolls. Considering the ingredients are lobster and bread I can't imagine what might have been so much better at the first place that's worth waiting so long.


I went with my father to a local restaurant that was extremely well reviewed. We get in and the place is deserted. We ask the hostess for a table and she says, "We only seat for those with reservations." We told her she obviously had open tables and unless she was expecting an entire football team there's no way they'd fill up before we were done. She insisted we needed reservations.

So I got out my phone and called the restaurant and made a reservation for 5 minutes after I called. Then I walked up and told her I had a reservation and that I was early.
2013-07-25 03:51:57 PM
1 votes:

ZAZ: Stop feeling so special. Long waits are not an exclusive Brooklyn thing.


Simply put, it's a marketing tactic.  Lots of places do this.

Nothing draws a crowd, like a crowd.  By forcing people to wait in line, the restaurant gets publicity  (like this) and people walking by ask why everyone's waiting...  People naturally assume that if others are willing to wait, then the place must be good.

Around here, it's a tactic used (quite successfully) by one of the more tourist-trappy restaurants, that no local would ever recommend.

Sorry Brooklyn restaurants mentioned in this article, but you're trying too hard to be cool, and we all know what that means.  Do us all a favor, grow up, hire a reservationist, and do your customers a favor instead of treating them like sheep.  Not that hipsters aren't sheep, I suppose, it's just that you're not supposed to so blatantly expose them as such.
2013-07-25 03:50:16 PM
1 votes:
Article proves foodies are stupid.
2013-07-25 03:49:03 PM
1 votes:

ManateeGag: no food, anywhere, is worth a 2 hour wait.

These crazy farks that wait hours for these Cronut things are insane.  Those farking pastries better cute cancer!


WTF is a Cronut?  Off to google.
2013-07-25 03:48:16 PM
1 votes:
"This meal had better change my life," griped Matt Devereaux, 28, of Murray Hill, who only schlepped to Roberta's due to "peer pressure"

You need to find some new friends, Matt.
2013-07-25 03:46:54 PM
1 votes:
I never understood what's the incentive for a restaurant to take reservations in the first place.   So a potential table just sits there empty bringing in no revenue while the reserving party is late and/or no shows?   The fact that they have to take reservations suggest they can't meet current demand of waiting customers.
2013-07-25 03:43:20 PM
1 votes:

Tigger: Brooklyn is a place for people who want to experience gritty urban authenticity.

Of course none of these people know what gritty urban authenticity is, or how farking unpleasant it is for real.


When I hear "urban authenticity" I think urine-tinged parking garages.
2013-07-25 03:41:44 PM
1 votes:
No, you need to go there on Tuesday and stop going on Friday and Saturday with the 9-to-5ers and the chicken-eaters.
2013-07-25 03:41:16 PM
1 votes:

ricewater_stool: Dear Brooklyn: New York get over yourself. You're just not that cool.

2013-07-25 03:40:20 PM
1 votes:

Slaxl: The whole point of reservations is so we don't have to wait. Why needlessly bring that back?


Reservations sometimes cancel, this prevents being stuck with an empty table.

The owners want to prioritize local customers who can just put their name in, then come back later, or patronize other businesses while they wait, either way locals who know the area will find it easier to gauge the line, the wait, and find things to do than people from elsewhere.  They're also likely worried that if they open it up for reservations it will be all people from Manhattan booking it up, and then the locals will feel pushed out, which won't be good for long term business when the hype dies down.
2013-07-25 03:40:19 PM
1 votes:
yeah, no

if i have to pre-eat, i'll call it lunch and come home, get comfy, and make what we like - never a wait for a table
2013-07-25 03:33:20 PM
1 votes:
Dear Brooklyn: get over yourself. You're just not that cool.
2013-07-25 03:31:24 PM
1 votes:
If the wait is more than 45 minutes, I'm not waiting. Especially if there is no room at the bar.
2013-07-25 03:29:12 PM
1 votes:
Pre-eat.

Kill yourself.

I can see waiting 2 hours if I can have cocktails and a table while I wait, but that would be the only exception. No meal is worth that kind of wait unless somebody is making it at your house without a sous chef.

I can see pre-drinking before going to a club, because that's just good economics. We call that "priming the pump."
2013-07-25 03:15:37 PM
1 votes:
Christ! That reminds me that we have to go to Toronto on Sat. & have din-din with my son & his fiancee.

`Don't you just love coming to the big city? This must be so exciting for you.'

`Um, no. Is that waiter ever coming back? We could have easily starved at home - for a lot less money, I might add.'
2013-07-25 03:12:11 PM
1 votes:
People are dragging themselves to Brooklyn and waiting 2 hours in line at a pizza place? I'm not saying these people should be killed, but they probably deserve a knee-capping, at the least.
2013-07-25 03:11:39 PM
1 votes:
This sh*t is common in DC too. Many of the hottest restaurants in town don't take reservations. One of them I used to go to when the waits were only 45 minutes. The restaurant was above a bar, and they'd just text you when your seat was ready. So you could just go out your name in, then go downstairs and have a few drinks first.

Sadly, the wait had doubled, so it's just not worth it anymore.
 
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