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(New York Daily News)   If you want to eat at one of Brooklyn's ultra-hip restaurants, prepare to "pre-eat" and wait in line for two hours, because many don't take reservations   (nydailynews.com) divider line 182
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2013-07-25 02:47:37 PM  
"pre eat?" fark you. seriously. fark you.
 
2013-07-25 02:51:08 PM  
Everyone interviewed for that article needs a punch to the face.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 02:55:05 PM  
Stop feeling so special. Long waits are not an exclusive Brooklyn thing.
 
2013-07-25 03:05:10 PM  

ZAZ: Stop feeling so special. Long waits are not an exclusive Brooklyn thing.


Very true.  Hell, I was out with some people after a work thing and they wanted to go to dinner at Olive Garden afterwards (it was a group consensus and I figured it wasn't worth the fight).  We got there and were told it would be at least an hour to get a table.  Thankfully rational thought prevailed and we just went to a brewpub down the street instead that had much better beer, better food, and no wait.

I'm not against no-reservation policies.  It seems the fairest way to do things - the people that really want to go and are willing to wait can do that, the ones who aren't that invested in the place will go somewhere else.  The restaurant doesn't have to worry about no-shows and empty tables, and diners don't have to worry about being hurried out of their seats to make room for the next reservation.
 
2013-07-25 03:07:30 PM  

FlashHarry: "pre eat?" fark you. seriously. fark you.


Yeah, THIS.  Fark that noise.  And I can almost guarantee you that what we "pre-eat" at my house will be better than what the restaurant is serving, though probably not nearly as precious.
 
2013-07-25 03:08:44 PM  
no food, anywhere, is worth a 2 hour wait.

These crazy farks that wait hours for these Cronut things are insane.  Those farking pastries better cute cancer!
 
2013-07-25 03:08:47 PM  
The whole point of reservations is so we don't have to wait. Why needlessly bring that back?
 
2013-07-25 03:11:39 PM  
This sh*t is common in DC too. Many of the hottest restaurants in town don't take reservations. One of them I used to go to when the waits were only 45 minutes. The restaurant was above a bar, and they'd just text you when your seat was ready. So you could just go out your name in, then go downstairs and have a few drinks first.

Sadly, the wait had doubled, so it's just not worth it anymore.
 
2013-07-25 03:12:11 PM  
People are dragging themselves to Brooklyn and waiting 2 hours in line at a pizza place? I'm not saying these people should be killed, but they probably deserve a knee-capping, at the least.
 
2013-07-25 03:13:45 PM  
/CSB

Incidentally, I went to Dinosaur BBQ with my wife and some friends.  we were seated in about had our orders taken in about 20 minutes.  after 45 minutes of waiting for food, the waiter comes over, said they ran out of pork and would we want anything else.  We decided to leave, but my wife raised a shiatstorm with the manager, and we ended up getting a comped dinner out of the deal the next time we are there.

/CSB
 
2013-07-25 03:14:06 PM  

ManateeGag: no food, anywhere, is worth a 2 hour wait.

These crazy farks that wait hours for these Cronut things are insane.  Those farking pastries better cute cancer!


If you can stop by, put your name on the list, and then wander around town for a bit, grab a drink or two, etc, it's not so bad.  Maybe the next big thing in Brooklyn could be a tapas culture - lots of little places in a neighborhood where patrons can walk in, have one or two small plates and a signature cocktail or drink, then go onto the next, with most of it being bar/counter service with maybe some tables in the background.  You get some people together and hit up several places throughout the night.
 
2013-07-25 03:15:37 PM  
Christ! That reminds me that we have to go to Toronto on Sat. & have din-din with my son & his fiancee.

`Don't you just love coming to the big city? This must be so exciting for you.'

`Um, no. Is that waiter ever coming back? We could have easily starved at home - for a lot less money, I might add.'
 
wee
2013-07-25 03:20:47 PM  

Slaxl: The whole point of reservations is so we don't have to wait. Why needlessly bring that back?


Because making people wait adds the perception of value.  Its like those stupid chain restaurants (Islands, Cheescake Factory, et al.) that always make you wait a little while.  They're trying to make you think you're getting something your not.  Why people would go to Brooklyn to wait in line is beyond me, however.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah, THIS. Fark that noise. And I can almost guarantee you that what we "pre-eat" at my house will be better than what the restaurant is serving, though probably not nearly as precious.

 
My thoughts exactly.  I made sous vide scallops pan seared in beurre noisette the other night.  No reason to eat out, definitely no reason to wait two hours to do so, unless it's for something I can't (or won't) make at home.  French Laundry or whole-hog BBQ come to mind.
 
2013-07-25 03:29:04 PM  
Al Di La is pretty excellent as is Roberta's.  Have I ever stood in line two hours to eat at either of them?  Hell no.

But Al Di La is good enough where if I'm walking by it and it looks fairly empty, I will eat there without a second thought.
 
2013-07-25 03:29:12 PM  
Pre-eat.

Kill yourself.

I can see waiting 2 hours if I can have cocktails and a table while I wait, but that would be the only exception. No meal is worth that kind of wait unless somebody is making it at your house without a sous chef.

I can see pre-drinking before going to a club, because that's just good economics. We call that "priming the pump."
 
2013-07-25 03:31:24 PM  
If the wait is more than 45 minutes, I'm not waiting. Especially if there is no room at the bar.
 
2013-07-25 03:31:51 PM  

wee: Slaxl: The whole point of reservations is so we don't have to wait. Why needlessly bring that back?

Because making people wait adds the perception of value.  Its like those stupid chain restaurants (Islands, Cheescake Factory, et al.) that always make you wait a little while.  They're trying to make you think you're getting something your not.  Why people would go to Brooklyn to wait in line is beyond me, however.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah, THIS. Fark that noise. And I can almost guarantee you that what we "pre-eat" at my house will be better than what the restaurant is serving, though probably not nearly as precious.
 
My thoughts exactly.  I made sous vide scallops pan seared in beurre noisette the other night.  No reason to eat out, definitely no reason to wait two hours to do so, unless it's for something I can't (or won't) make at home.  French Laundry or whole-hog BBQ come to mind.


So do you have a dedicated sous vide machine, or did you make one yourself?  (SO jealous, I really want a sous vide.)
 
2013-07-25 03:33:00 PM  

ManateeGag: no food, anywhere, is worth a 2 hour wait.


Well, if you're waiting on a game trail for it to walk by, well, that's not all that offensive to me.  In fact, I rather enjoy it.
 
2013-07-25 03:33:20 PM  
Dear Brooklyn: get over yourself. You're just not that cool.
 
2013-07-25 03:35:07 PM  
I like the concept of having food served to me in the comfort of my automobile. I can belch, fart & scratch my genitals without incurring offence to other diners.
It's a win-win for all concerned.
 
2013-07-25 03:40:06 PM  
But guys, the the mud soup and charcoal arugula is outrageous there.
 
2013-07-25 03:40:19 PM  
yeah, no

if i have to pre-eat, i'll call it lunch and come home, get comfy, and make what we like - never a wait for a table
 
2013-07-25 03:40:20 PM  

Slaxl: The whole point of reservations is so we don't have to wait. Why needlessly bring that back?


Reservations sometimes cancel, this prevents being stuck with an empty table.

The owners want to prioritize local customers who can just put their name in, then come back later, or patronize other businesses while they wait, either way locals who know the area will find it easier to gauge the line, the wait, and find things to do than people from elsewhere.  They're also likely worried that if they open it up for reservations it will be all people from Manhattan booking it up, and then the locals will feel pushed out, which won't be good for long term business when the hype dies down.
 
2013-07-25 03:40:32 PM  
Brooklyn is a place for people who want to experience gritty urban authenticity.

Of course none of these people know what gritty urban authenticity is, or how farking unpleasant it is for real.
 
2013-07-25 03:40:41 PM  
And I fark it up by stuttering at the beginning.

Have a nice day, everyone.
 
2013-07-25 03:40:47 PM  
People are so stupid that they believe somethign is good just because you have to wait for it. Critical thinking is dead.
 
2013-07-25 03:40:52 PM  

ZAZ: Stop feeling so special. Long waits are not an exclusive Brooklyn thing.


shiat, we used to wait an hour for a table at Outback when I was a kid.
 
2013-07-25 03:41:16 PM  

ricewater_stool: Dear Brooklyn: New York get over yourself. You're just not that cool.

 
2013-07-25 03:41:25 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: ManateeGag: no food, anywhere, is worth a 2 hour wait.

These crazy farks that wait hours for these Cronut things are insane.  Those farking pastries better cute cancer!

If you can stop by, put your name on the list, and then wander around town for a bit, grab a drink or two, etc, it's not so bad.  Maybe the next big thing in Brooklyn could be a tapas culture - lots of little places in a neighborhood where patrons can walk in, have one or two small plates and a signature cocktail or drink, then go onto the next, with most of it being bar/counter service with maybe some tables in the background.  You get some people together and hit up several places throughout the night.


(AssholeFoodieMode ON)

Tapas?

How early 2000s quaint.

You may as well go out for sushi.

(AssholeFoodieMode OFF)

I'm sure there are quite a few tapas bars in Brooklyn who haven't gotten the memo that their cuisine is no
longer fashionable.

I predict The Next Big Thing will be seating you in front of a retro-styled industrial fan that wafts the aroma
of food over your table.  For the reasonable price of $45.95 per person*

*Does not include 20% Service fee, of which only 2% goes to your server as a tip.
 
2013-07-25 03:41:44 PM  
No, you need to go there on Tuesday and stop going on Friday and Saturday with the 9-to-5ers and the chicken-eaters.
 
2013-07-25 03:43:15 PM  
They're called Waiters for a reason.
 
2013-07-25 03:43:20 PM  

Tigger: Brooklyn is a place for people who want to experience gritty urban authenticity.

Of course none of these people know what gritty urban authenticity is, or how farking unpleasant it is for real.


When I hear "urban authenticity" I think urine-tinged parking garages.
 
2013-07-25 03:44:33 PM  
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New York's hottest restaurant is SPEE-LUNK.  This eatery literally has everything: Pork Knees, an Ethiopian guy who begs for your food while salsa dancing, and for dessert, they offer a tiramisu that you have to make yourself and then serve to other customers. Make sure you eat before you go, however, because head chef Carlos Dangeroux is known for his WILD OUTBURST as much as his Air-Grilled Salmon Flakes!
 
2013-07-25 03:45:50 PM  

vernonFL: If the wait is more than 45 minutes, I'm not waiting. Especially if there is no room at the bar.


True, but sometimes it's worth the wait...
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admittedly, this is not a Brooklyn restaurant, but my local Girl & the Goat in Chicago... still pretty posh.
 
2013-07-25 03:45:51 PM  

PainInTheASP: Tigger: Brooklyn is a place for people who want to experience gritty urban authenticity.

Of course none of these people know what gritty urban authenticity is, or how farking unpleasant it is for real.

When I hear "urban authenticity" I think urine-tinged parking garages.


And hobos shiatting on bus stop benches.
 
2013-07-25 03:46:03 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: I predict The Next Big Thing will be seating you in front of a retro-styled industrial fan that wafts the aroma
of food over your table.  For the reasonable price of $45.95 per person*


i'm pretty sure they already do that at alinea in chicago.
 
2013-07-25 03:46:20 PM  
If the hipsters "pre-eat," pretty soon they won't be able to fit into their skinny jeans any more, so it's best for them to just starve themselves for two more hours.
 
2013-07-25 03:46:22 PM  
You willing to wait AND pay just to be trendy, you deserve to wait twice as long and pay twice as much.
 
2013-07-25 03:46:29 PM  
If I can't be seated in 10-15 minutes, I am out of there. I once waited for a half hour at one of those "you gotta  eat there!" restaurants in St. Augustine. What a pathetic disappointment.
 
2013-07-25 03:46:54 PM  
I never understood what's the incentive for a restaurant to take reservations in the first place.   So a potential table just sits there empty bringing in no revenue while the reserving party is late and/or no shows?   The fact that they have to take reservations suggest they can't meet current demand of waiting customers.
 
2013-07-25 03:47:01 PM  

Treygreen13: [img2.timeinc.net image 612x340]
New York's hottest restaurant is SPEE-LUNK.  This eatery literally has everything: Pork Knees, an Ethiopian guy who begs for your food while salsa dancing, and for dessert, they offer a tiramisu that you have to make yourself and then serve to other customers. Make sure you eat before you go, however, because head chef Carlos Dangeroux is known for his WILD OUTBURST as much as his Air-Grilled Salmon Flakes!


Well played.

i lol'd
 
2013-07-25 03:48:13 PM  

wee: Because making people wait adds the perception of value. Its like those stupid chain restaurants (Islands, Cheescake Factory, et al.) that always make you wait a little while. They're trying to make you think you're getting something your not. Why people would go to Brooklyn to wait in line is beyond me, however.


We had a French bistro in town for a while that would give people a 15-20 minute wait when there was nobody actually in the restaurant.

Obviously, that shiat didn't last too long.

/ Food sucked, too.
 
2013-07-25 03:48:16 PM  
"This meal had better change my life," griped Matt Devereaux, 28, of Murray Hill, who only schlepped to Roberta's due to "peer pressure"

You need to find some new friends, Matt.
 
2013-07-25 03:48:49 PM  
Maybe I'll just go and eat at Red Lobster.....ironically.
 
2013-07-25 03:49:03 PM  

ManateeGag: no food, anywhere, is worth a 2 hour wait.

These crazy farks that wait hours for these Cronut things are insane.  Those farking pastries better cute cancer!


WTF is a Cronut?  Off to google.
 
2013-07-25 03:49:23 PM  

FlashHarry: "pre eat?" fark you. seriously. fark you.


Yep, I pre-ate and now I'm full, so let's just skip the restaurant, shall we?
 
2013-07-25 03:49:31 PM  
My dad and I went to some place that supposedly had the "Best Lobster Rolls in Boston". We walked in and the waitress said with a straight face that the wait was two and a half hours. They also took no reservations.

We walked literally one restaurant down, were seated immediately, and ate some pretty damn good lobster rolls. Considering the ingredients are lobster and bread I can't imagine what might have been so much better at the first place that's worth waiting so long.
 
2013-07-25 03:50:10 PM  
The shiat people will put themselves threw in the name of trends and so that they can be on top of the latest trends.

I also love the people that are sitting there complaining about the 2 hour wait. If you don't like it, don't wait.
 
2013-07-25 03:50:16 PM  
Article proves foodies are stupid.
 
2013-07-25 03:50:16 PM  
Talde chef Dale Talde insists his no-reservation policy helps the restaurant remain a local joint. "We decided not to take reservations because it was really important to us to make the restaurant a true neighborhood spot, a place where the locals could always pop in and grab a bite to eat," he wrote via email. "That's why, even when there's a two hour line out the door of people waiting for a table, we'll always escort locals right to the front and seat them immediately. We want to be a part of this local community, this neighborhood of assholes."
 
2013-07-25 03:51:25 PM  
Hipsters, is there anything they can't ruin?

As George Carlin would say, "Pre-suck my genital situation!"
 
2013-07-25 03:51:36 PM  
CSB:

Not my idea, read it in a magazine years back, but when the littles were, well, little, we would serve them a sit-down dinner at home before we went out to a big restaurant. Not talking family spots that cater to kids, but the more formal places. The kids would feast on their favorite chicken fingers or mac & cheese or $latestfoodcraving, and then when we went to the restaurant we'd simply let them order a dessert from the menu.

Not only did it keep prices down, but the kids were interested in going to the restaurant, and were easier to handle because they weren't waiting interminably (for a kid) for course 3: warm water on a fifteen course menu or some silliness. Add in the bonus that we didn't have to shell for a babysitter and could actually expose the littles to something new, inexpensively, and it was one of the best articles I've ever put to use.

/CSB
 
2013-07-25 03:51:57 PM  

ZAZ: Stop feeling so special. Long waits are not an exclusive Brooklyn thing.


Simply put, it's a marketing tactic.  Lots of places do this.

Nothing draws a crowd, like a crowd.  By forcing people to wait in line, the restaurant gets publicity  (like this) and people walking by ask why everyone's waiting...  People naturally assume that if others are willing to wait, then the place must be good.

Around here, it's a tactic used (quite successfully) by one of the more tourist-trappy restaurants, that no local would ever recommend.

Sorry Brooklyn restaurants mentioned in this article, but you're trying too hard to be cool, and we all know what that means.  Do us all a favor, grow up, hire a reservationist, and do your customers a favor instead of treating them like sheep.  Not that hipsters aren't sheep, I suppose, it's just that you're not supposed to so blatantly expose them as such.
 
2013-07-25 03:52:08 PM  

Tigger: Brooklyn is a place for people who want to experience gritty urban authenticity.

Of course none of these people know what gritty urban authenticity is, or how farking unpleasant it is for real.


But you can be damn sure they're calling all their friends back in Indiana to tell them all about it.

There are a million places to eat really well in this city.  A two hour wait?  Fark off.
 
2013-07-25 03:52:12 PM  

Hoboclown: My dad and I went to some place that supposedly had the "Best Lobster Rolls in Boston". We walked in and the waitress said with a straight face that the wait was two and a half hours. They also took no reservations.

We walked literally one restaurant down, were seated immediately, and ate some pretty damn good lobster rolls. Considering the ingredients are lobster and bread I can't imagine what might have been so much better at the first place that's worth waiting so long.


I went with my father to a local restaurant that was extremely well reviewed. We get in and the place is deserted. We ask the hostess for a table and she says, "We only seat for those with reservations." We told her she obviously had open tables and unless she was expecting an entire football team there's no way they'd fill up before we were done. She insisted we needed reservations.

So I got out my phone and called the restaurant and made a reservation for 5 minutes after I called. Then I walked up and told her I had a reservation and that I was early.
 
2013-07-25 03:52:35 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: PainInTheASP: Tigger: Brooklyn is a place for people who want to experience gritty urban authenticity.

Of course none of these people know what gritty urban authenticity is, or how farking unpleasant it is for real.

When I hear "urban authenticity" I think urine-tinged parking garages.

And hobos shiatting on bus stop benches.


used needles are a key component
 
2013-07-25 03:53:21 PM  

wee: My thoughts exactly. I made sous vide scallops pan seared in beurre noisette the other night.


 You gonna deglaze that farkin' pan?

CynicalLA: WTF is a Cronut? Off to google.


WTF is a google?
 
2013-07-25 03:53:59 PM  

wee: Because making people wait adds the perception of value. Its like those stupid chain restaurants (Islands, Cheescake Factory, et al.) that always make you wait a little while. They're trying to make you think you're getting something your not.


I always assumed that the real purpose of making people wait when the place isn't full is to get people to go into the bar and suck down some wildly overpriced, high-profit drinks to kill time.  Especially since the "your table isn't quite ready yet, it'll be about 15 minutes or so" statement is almost always followed up with "if you want to just wait in the bar, we'll let you know as soon as your table is ready."
 
2013-07-25 03:54:35 PM  

InmanRoshi: I never understood what's the incentive for a restaurant to take reservations in the first place.   So a potential table just sits there empty bringing in no revenue while the reserving party is late and/or no shows?   The fact that they have to take reservations suggest they can't meet current demand of waiting customers.


Next and now Alinea (same people, it worked for Next so they started doing it at Alinea too) in Chicago don't take reservations, they sell tickets.  You pay in advance, so there's no more no-show problem of a table going unused with no revenue.
 
2013-07-25 03:54:44 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: lots of little places in a neighborhood where patrons can walk in, have one or two small plates and a signature cocktail or drink, then go onto the next, with most of it being bar/counter service with maybe some tables in the background. You get some people together and hit up several places throughout the night.


This would be stellar. I was lucky enough to enjoy a dozen pinxtos circuit nights in San Sebastian and Bliboa this spring and holy moly was that amazing. Grab a medium sized pour of wine, pick a couple pinxtos off the counter, ingest, hand over a few Euros, then move on. What a friggin fantastic way to spend a night.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pincho

I'm sure the NYC Board of Health would scoff at the idea of having a bar full of food, but what don't they scoff at.

Oh, and you all shouldn't forget that a lot of those people that put themselves on a list and then wait for two hours spread out a bit and spend money in the neighborhood. It's great for bars and shops surrounding these places. I say, let 'em wait.
 
2013-07-25 03:55:51 PM  

InmanRoshi: I never understood what's the incentive for a restaurant to take reservations in the first place.


Because treating your customers well increases their likelihood of return, as well as whether they'll tell others about your restaurant.

So a potential table just sits there empty bringing in no revenue while the reserving party is late and/or no shows?   The fact that they have to take reservations suggest they can't meet current demand of waiting customers.

Ah, I see... You apparently think that reservations are binding contracts or something, and once someone reserves a table, you have to set fire to it if they don't show up. What's wrong with taking reservations, and then giving up the table if they're late or a no show? If they're early or on time, though, then why treat them like some random walk-in who may never come back?

Additionally, if a restaurant takes reservations, then they can pre-adjust for rushes. For example, rather than having 50 couples show up all wanting a table at 8:00 PM, if you're taking reservations hours in advance, you can stagger them from 7:30 to 8:30. No one has to wait, your kitchen and waitstaff don't get slammed, your service is better, tips will be better, and customers will have a better time and will more likely come back.
 
2013-07-25 03:57:36 PM  

Cyberluddite: I always assumed that the real purpose of making people wait when the place isn't full is to get people to go into the bar and suck down some wildly overpriced, high-profit drinks to kill time.  Especially since the "your table isn't quite ready yet, it'll be about 15 minutes or so" statement is almost always followed up with "if you want to just wait in the bar, we'll let you know as soon as your table is ready."


But I want to suck down some overpriced drinks. That's why I'm there.
 
2013-07-25 03:57:44 PM  
Hey, if some loser wants to ruin their own evening, that's their problem and prerogative.

In New York and pretty much every other civilized town there are countless other options that you can and should take advantage of rather than sitting around for 2 hours like an idiot.

"no-reservation" policies are disrespectful of the customer, as it treats the restaurant's time as more valuable than yours.  When the customer is put in second place (or farther back) that's a problem.
 
2013-07-25 03:58:43 PM  
Next Article, "Brooklyn  Food Trucks cater to those waiting for a table"
 
2013-07-25 03:59:06 PM  

GQueue: InmanRoshi: I never understood what's the incentive for a restaurant to take reservations in the first place.   So a potential table just sits there empty bringing in no revenue while the reserving party is late and/or no shows?   The fact that they have to take reservations suggest they can't meet current demand of waiting customers.

Next and now Alinea (same people, it worked for Next so they started doing it at Alinea too) in Chicago don't take reservations, they sell tickets.  You pay in advance, so there's no more no-show problem of a table going unused with no revenue.


That works for Alinea and Next, which have a set menu. Doesn't work so well in other places with variable menus. I suppose you could have a $50 deposit when you reserve a table that is then deducted from your bill, but wouldn't it simply be better to give away tables if you're not there at your reserved time? You  want customers who warn you when they'll be arriving and then do so on time or early, and who cares if you piss off the ones that arrive late?
 
2013-07-25 03:59:22 PM  

ricewater_stool: Dear Brooklyn: get over yourself. You're just not that cool.


Brooklyn is "New York's most populous borough." It's weird when people discuss it like it's a quaint place when the "neighborhood's" aggregate society is bigger than entire metro areas on the mainland US.
 
2013-07-25 03:59:45 PM  
Why is this even a THING? Is it somehow beneficial to be a hipster and a "cool person"? If I have to wait two hours for food, I'll cook it myself, thanks.
 
2013-07-25 03:59:52 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: So do you have a dedicated sous vide machine, or did you make one yourself?  (SO jealous, I really want a sous vide.)


If you have a decent cooler and some ziploc bags, you have a sous vide.  At least good enough for cooking some things (not for veggies and not really for poultry either, but definitely for beef, scallops, pork, and some other stuff).

http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/04/cook-your-meat-in-a-beer-cooler-t he -worlds-best-sous-vide-hack.html
 
2013-07-25 04:00:12 PM  

Cyberluddite: wee: Because making people wait adds the perception of value. Its like those stupid chain restaurants (Islands, Cheescake Factory, et al.) that always make you wait a little while. They're trying to make you think you're getting something your not.

I always assumed that the real purpose of making people wait when the place isn't full is to get people to go into the bar and suck down some wildly overpriced, high-profit drinks to kill time.  Especially since the "your table isn't quite ready yet, it'll be about 15 minutes or so" statement is almost always followed up with "if you want to just wait in the bar, we'll let you know as soon as your table is ready."


To which I should add, BTW, that I generally refuse the offer to take a seat in the bar, and say, "that's OK, I'll just wait right here."  Magically, my table seems to suddenly become "ready" much faster than originally estimated when they realize that they aren't going to be able to soak me for some extra drinks in the bar and that I intend to just stand around and clog up the reception area instead, so they might as well let me sit down at my table now.
 
2013-07-25 04:00:36 PM  

CynicalLA: ManateeGag: no food, anywhere, is worth a 2 hour wait.

These crazy farks that wait hours for these Cronut things are insane.  Those farking pastries better cute cancer!

WTF is a Cronut?  Off to google.


it's a Croissant crossed with a donut.  From what I hear, people show up crazy early for them and sell out by 9am every morning.
 
2013-07-25 04:00:56 PM  

cefm: "no-reservation" policies are disrespectful of the customer, as it treats the restaurant's time as more valuable than yours.  When the customer is put in second place (or farther back) that's a problem.


Many of these restaurants are owned by chefs with entitled rock-star attitudes who view you as a necessary evil to fund their practice of culinary art.
 
2013-07-25 04:01:32 PM  
As a current, temporary Brooklyn resident, I haven't seen this.  Walk down Smith St and some restaurants have lines, and some don't.  They're all the same French-inspired bistro/steakhouse style with overpriced hanger steak, truffled mashed potatoes, truffled fries(sorry, frites), green beans(sorry, haricot verts), and a moderate liquor selection(but shiatty, hipster beers), so it doesn't really matter where you eat.
 
2013-07-25 04:01:52 PM  

cefm: Hey, if some loser wants to ruin their own evening, that's their problem and prerogative.

In New York and pretty much every other civilized town there are countless other options that you can and should take advantage of rather than sitting around for 2 hours like an idiot.

"no-reservation" policies are disrespectful of the customer, as it treats the restaurant's time as more valuable than yours.  When the customer is put in second place (or farther back) that's a problem.


I have this theory that New Yorkers like to be abused, because it makes them feel like they are somehow better, smarter, or tougher than everyone else, when in fact they aren't.
 
2013-07-25 04:02:16 PM  
I wouldn't mind waiting to eat if the food was worth it, but in a place like New York, I would assume half the wait is caused by restaurants keeping a half dozen tables free at all times in case the rich and / or famous decide to drop by. I'd be pissed if I was waiting an hour or more to get a table, only to see Ivanka Trump waltz right past the line and get seated.
 
2013-07-25 04:02:30 PM  
I hate hipsters. I don't get them.
And I'm only 28
/stay off my lawn and what not
 
2013-07-25 04:02:43 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: So do you have a dedicated sous vide machine, or did you make one yourself?  (SO jealous, I really want a sous vide.)


I made two of these.
 
2013-07-25 04:02:53 PM  
A two to four hour wait at the bar? It's a good thing it's in a city where no one drives.
 
2013-07-25 04:03:06 PM  
They don't take reservations at the clover food truck. So...

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2013-07-25 04:03:13 PM  

Treygreen13: So I got out my phone and called the restaurant and made a reservation for 5 minutes after I called. Then I walked up and told her I had a reservation and that I was early.


I did this in DC recently. Walking around, see someplace that looked good, hopped on OpenTable and booked, then walked in the door, past lines and declared I had a reservation. Worked every time, and just made me wonder what the hell the people in line were thinking.
 
2013-07-25 04:04:19 PM  
i visited brooklyn a couple weekends ago.  went to fantastic restaurants and never waited anywhere i went.

The food in new york is incredible.  I bet some of those places are worth a long wait.  I forgot how good the food in new york is.  some places are just unparalleled.
 
2013-07-25 04:04:36 PM  

naughtyrev: Treygreen13: So I got out my phone and called the restaurant and made a reservation for 5 minutes after I called. Then I walked up and told her I had a reservation and that I was early.

I did this in DC recently. Walking around, see someplace that looked good, hopped on OpenTable and booked, then walked in the door, past lines and declared I had a reservation. Worked every time, and just made me wonder what the hell the people in line were thinking.


Or how they were able to make you a reservation when they obviously had a huge line of people waiting to get in.
 
2013-07-25 04:04:40 PM  

ManateeGag: CynicalLA: ManateeGag: no food, anywhere, is worth a 2 hour wait.

These crazy farks that wait hours for these Cronut things are insane.  Those farking pastries better cute cancer!

WTF is a Cronut?  Off to google.

it's a Croissant crossed with a donut.  From what I hear, people show up crazy early for them and sell out by 9am every morning.


Isn't it because they deliberately only make a small amount each day?
 
2013-07-25 04:04:53 PM  

odinsposse: Cyberluddite: I always assumed that the real purpose of making people wait when the place isn't full is to get people to go into the bar and suck down some wildly overpriced, high-profit drinks to kill time.  Especially since the "your table isn't quite ready yet, it'll be about 15 minutes or so" statement is almost always followed up with "if you want to just wait in the bar, we'll let you know as soon as your table is ready."

But I want to suck down some overpriced drinks. That's why I'm there.


Which, of course, you can do at your table when you're seated.  But if I really want to eat at 7:30 but suck down overpriced drinks before that, I'll make my reservation for 7:30 but show up a half-hour early and go into the bar.  I don't make my reservation for 7:00 assuming that I'll really be seated at 7:30 after being forced to drink for half hour after my reservation time before I'm seated at my table.  I hate that bullshiat.
 
2013-07-25 04:05:31 PM  
It used to be that the meal was just the pre fun thing you were gonna do. But these foodie asswipes have turned food into orgasms. Taking pictures of your food while you are at a restaurant I think deserves you getting beat in the face at least once. Trendy or not, fark that noise. I'm happy having a steak at outback as I would at Peter Lugers. Why? Because I am not a lard ass who's world does not relolve around food and/or being seen sitting in stuffy diners that serve barely above McDonalds grade food just to be seen like some asshat with acute attention whore disease. That is a real thing isn't it? If not, just make it up like some mother who is struggling to make their precious snowflake different than all the other booger eaters by saying "My Little Rian Tyan Jefferson cannot eat any food that has touched air" Foodies are idiots. The lot of them. I place them right under lawyers, but above rap talkers (never heard a rapper actually sing before).
 
2013-07-25 04:06:02 PM  

UsikFark: Brooklyn is "New York's most populous borough." It's weird when people discuss it like it's a quaint place when the "neighborhood's" aggregate society is bigger than entire metro areas on the mainland US.


Yeah but the parts of Brooklyn where the hipsters are form a small part of the borough.
 
2013-07-25 04:06:59 PM  
Talde chef Dale Talde insists his no-reservation policy helps the restaurant remain a local joint. "We decided not to take reservations because it was really important to us to make the restaurant a true neighborhood spot, a place where the locals could always pop in and grab a bite to eat," he wrote via email. "It's been successful so far."

in other words, waiting two hours = popping in?
 
2013-07-25 04:07:19 PM  
nope
 
2013-07-25 04:08:00 PM  

ManateeGag: /CSB

Incidentally, I went to Dinosaur BBQ with my wife and some friends.  we were seated in about had our orders taken in about 20 minutes.  after 45 minutes of waiting for food, the waiter comes over, said they ran out of pork and would we want anything else.  We decided to leave, but my wife raised a shiatstorm with the manager, and we ended up getting a comped dinner out of the deal the next time we are there.

/CSB


i assume the harlem one? i can't imagine that troy or rochester are that busy
 
2013-07-25 04:08:47 PM  
F*ck Brooklyn.
I want to go to the place that's the NEXT Brooklyn.
 
2013-07-25 04:09:51 PM  
The only time I ever waited that long was at a place on Milwaukee's East Side called Sally's. We had reservations but after the first 30 minutes Sally herself came out to where we were waiting, apologized, and gave us a complimentary antipasto tray and bottle of wine. Shortly before we were called to our table (another hour) a large group of "connected" men left the restaurant. I guess some don't need reservations.
 
2013-07-25 04:09:52 PM  

Treygreen13: naughtyrev: Treygreen13: So I got out my phone and called the restaurant and made a reservation for 5 minutes after I called. Then I walked up and told her I had a reservation and that I was early.

I did this in DC recently. Walking around, see someplace that looked good, hopped on OpenTable and booked, then walked in the door, past lines and declared I had a reservation. Worked every time, and just made me wonder what the hell the people in line were thinking.

Or how they were able to make you a reservation when they obviously had a huge line of people waiting to get in.


I didn't get that at all. I assumed that maybe they set aside a certain number of tables on the site for each time block and if they're not taken then walk-ins get them, but who knows.
 
2013-07-25 04:09:59 PM  
Goddamn, New Yorkers have to be the dumbest people on the planet
 
2013-07-25 04:10:11 PM  

InmanRoshi: I never understood what's the incentive for a restaurant to take reservations in the first place.


It is helpful for large parties.  I can understand having a minimum number of people of reservations.  If its a party of 10 or so... reservations help everyone.  As well, large parties are most likely not going to cancel or be late.
 
2013-07-25 04:11:00 PM  
Wow.
I mean.
How farking stupid can people get?

I'll tune in next week to see what "hipsters in NY" are up to then, I guess.
 
2013-07-25 04:11:59 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: Goddamn, New Yorkers have to be the dumbest people on the planet


It's a city full of people who moved to New York to be New Yorkers.  The problem is that all the transplants are unknowingly taking cues from each other.
 
2013-07-25 04:12:23 PM  

tricycleracer: It's a city full of people who moved to New York to be New Yorkers.  The problem is that all the transplants are unknowingly taking cues from each other.


Yea and the natives are too stupid to leave
 
2013-07-25 04:12:29 PM  

tlchwi02: i assume the harlem one? i can't imagine that troy or rochester are that busy


I love the one in Syracuse. That is a fun place. Good food, loud music
 
2013-07-25 04:13:06 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: F*ck Brooklyn.
I want to go to the place that's the NEXT Brooklyn.


Brownsville. Still Brooklyn, but then you can look down on all the softies that think their cool because they live in Brooklyn. FoRealz
 
2013-07-25 04:13:34 PM  
"This meal had better change my life," griped Matt Devereaux, 28, of Murray Hill, who only schlepped to Roberta's due to "peer pressure" and found the two-hour wait on a recent Saturday night "obnoxious." "If this doesn't change my life, if this isn't something I can't get in the borough of Manhattan, this is wholly irrelevant."

Dude, look at it for what it is.  The perfect opportunity to learn that a two hour wait for a meal makes you a total tool, controlled by other people, devoid of any critical thinking skills.  If you learn that, it will be life changing and worth the wait.  Otherwise we just hope the life changing comes in the form of choking on the very food you waited on.
 
2013-07-25 04:14:01 PM  
Oh do not go to Dinosaur BBQ and raise a stink. It was founded by Hells Angels and they still hang out there
 
2013-07-25 04:14:20 PM  

tricycleracer: Many of these restaurants are owned by chefs with entitled rock-star attitudes who view you as a necessary evil to fund their practice of culinary art cocaine habit.

 
2013-07-25 04:14:35 PM  
I have definitely pre-eaten dinners before.

If i am going out for a dinner with 10 or more people, i know the wait for a table to fit us all is gonna be long and it will be at least an hour before i get my food.  And some people will be late.  If it is scheduled for 7pm, i probably won't be eating until 8:30.  Yeah, I am gonna pre-eat that.

The fancier the restaurant, the smaller the meals.  Fancy restaurant, special occasion and/ or work dinner like a banquet or awards ceremony or birthday party or something - i don't want to look like a pig and be stuffing my mouth the whole time.  I pre-eat those.

/sounds fat, but isn't.  i eat a lot, but i exercise a lot too - at a very high level of intensity
 
2013-07-25 04:15:31 PM  

TheEvilOne23: It used to be that the meal was just the pre fun thing you were gonna do. But these foodie asswipes have turned food into orgasms. Taking pictures of your food while you are at a restaurant I think deserves you getting beat in the face at least once. Trendy or not, fark that noise. I'm happy having a steak at outback as I would at Peter Lugers. Why? Because I am not a lard ass who's world does not relolve around food and/or being seen sitting in stuffy diners that serve barely above McDonalds grade food just to be seen like some asshat with acute attention whore disease. That is a real thing isn't it? If not, just make it up like some mother who is struggling to make their precious snowflake different than all the other booger eaters by saying "My Little Rian Tyan Jefferson cannot eat any food that has touched air" Foodies are idiots. The lot of them. I place them right under lawyers, but above rap talkers (never heard a rapper actually sing before).


1/10

You were off to a good start, and I almost bit on the comparison between Outback and Lugers, but you sort of went off the rails at the end with the unrelated anti-rap tirade and an attempted lawyer joke.  Sometimes less is more.
 
2013-07-25 04:15:33 PM  
I've waited 2 hours to eat before, but that's usually while I'm waiting for the roast or chicken or whatever to finish cooking.

/12 hours or more for a pork butt.
 
2013-07-25 04:18:06 PM  

ManateeGag: /CSB

Incidentally, I went to Dinosaur BBQ with my wife and some friends.  we were seated in about had our orders taken in about 20 minutes.  after 45 minutes of waiting for food, the waiter comes over, said they ran out of pork and would we want anything else.  We decided to leave, but my wife raised a shiatstorm with the manager, and we ended up getting a comped dinner out of the deal the next time we are there.

/CSB


And I'm sure it was spit on.

Anyway...  I have the patience of about a 15 minute wait.  Any longer than that, I go elsewhere.
 
2013-07-25 04:19:31 PM  

downstairs: As well, large parties are most likely not going to cancel or be late.


cancel, probably not.  late - aren't large parties always late?  there are more opportunities for a laggard to hold everyone else back.
 
2013-07-25 04:20:38 PM  
I find this thread pretty amusing. I'm fairly certain that many the people calling New Yorkers idiots for waiting 2 hours for an amazing dinner have probably waited 2 hours to get into the Cheesecake Factory.
 
2013-07-25 04:24:02 PM  

vernonFL: UsikFark: Brooklyn is "New York's most populous borough." It's weird when people discuss it like it's a quaint place when the "neighborhood's" aggregate society is bigger than entire metro areas on the mainland US.

Yeah but the parts of Brooklyn where the hipsters are form a small part of the borough.


They seem to be in a few parts of the borough, actually.

downstairs: InmanRoshi: I never understood what's the incentive for a restaurant to take reservations in the first place.

It is helpful for large parties.  I can understand having a minimum number of people of reservations.  If its a party of 10 or so... reservations help everyone.  As well, large parties are most likely not going to cancel or be late.


It's helpful for everyone, and that's why it's nice when restaurants have it.  Taking reservations means repeat customers if you're a busy restaurant.  Granted, the only thing worse than not taking reservations is taking reservations and then making people wait, then you're definitely not getting repeat customers.
 
2013-07-25 04:24:12 PM  

brap: Al Di La is pretty excellent as is Roberta's.  Have I ever stood in line two hours to eat at either of them?  Hell no.

But Al Di La is good enough where if I'm walking by it and it looks fairly empty, I will eat there without a second thought.



Especially since Al Di La's wine bar down the block serves the same menu and often has little or no wait (I've walked in there without a wait, when the main restaurant was telling people it would be an hour or more).
 
2013-07-25 04:24:26 PM  
one thing to keep in mind is that 2 hours in new york time = 30 minutes in georgia time.
 
2013-07-25 04:24:50 PM  

vernonFL: UsikFark: Brooklyn is "New York's most populous borough." It's weird when people discuss it like it's a quaint place when the "neighborhood's" aggregate society is bigger than entire metro areas on the mainland US.

Yeah but the parts of Brooklyn where the hipsters are form a small part of the borough.


I can get that articles would only be about this hip parts, but don't those hip parts have names? You don't just lump together two million people and hundreds (?) of city blocks under one name if your audience is local, or even if it's national... unless it's Brooklyn :-|
 
2013-07-25 04:26:52 PM  
Fark brooklyn and fark hipsters.  If you blow your life waiting on shiatty greasy food prepared by hepatitis-ridden emo kids in barely-"renovated" tenement buildings with inadequate power, water, and sanitation and you want to live in a place of the same description and overpay for both, don't turn around and tell me how cool you are.  Take your farking fixie and go back to Great Falls.
 
2013-07-25 04:31:05 PM  

The Face Of Oblivion: Fark brooklyn and fark hipsters.  If you blow your life waiting on shiatty greasy food prepared by hepatitis-ridden emo kids in barely-"renovated" tenement buildings with inadequate power, water, and sanitation and you want to live in a place of the same description and overpay for both, don't turn around and tell me how cool you are.  Take your farking fixie and go back to Great Falls.


I recently speak 3 days in Bogota, rounding off a two week vacation visiting family in Colombia.

Bogota is chock full of hipsters, who look and act just like the american ones.  One off copies with the same bad tatoos, clothing made to look like it is vintage, etc.

They were all over the local brew pubs, 5 people sharing 2 beers, taking up space and talking about bands no one ever heard off while requesting the Human League from the dj.
 
2013-07-25 04:32:11 PM  

InmanRoshi: I never understood what's the incentive for a restaurant to take reservations in the first place.   So a potential table just sits there empty bringing in no revenue while the reserving party is late and/or no shows?   The fact that they have to take reservations suggest they can't meet current demand of waiting customers.


I'm with you.  If I'm running a restaurant and people are lined up out the door, why would I take reservations and lower the number of people I can serve?

I see it at bars fairly often, too.  The bar puts out "reserved" signs on a bunch of tables, the people never show, those tables sit empty for half the night before the bar gives up and opens the tables up.  In the meantime, people who are actually there and buying drinks can't get a table because the only ones not in use are "reserved".

I don't blame people for not being willing to wait 2 hours to eat.  I wouldn't.  But if the restaurant has a line of customers who *are* willing to wait, I can't blame them a bit.
 
wee
2013-07-25 04:34:49 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: So do you have a dedicated sous vide machine, or did you make one yourself? (SO jealous, I really want a sous vide.)


I made one out of a digital temp controller, a spare electrical box I had laying around and a piece of extension cord.  It's really simple to make, and costs around $35.  Here's a video of me testing it right after I first wired it all together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt6eho1GFF8

I hooked up an old crock pot to it: http://i.imgur.com/RY7BqXD.jpg  You can also use a rice cooker if you like, but the ceramic gives you a little more "thermal battery".  Lots of folks say you need to stir the water or whatever, but since it heats from all around, there's no real need.

Best steaks you can eat, let me tell you.  For an inch and a half, they stay in for two hours.  Then out of the bag and into a hot, buttery pan 60 seconds per side. Really nice crust, and almost zero internal transition between medium rare and the crusty outside.

I'll build one for you if you like, for the cost of the parts.  Send me an email if you're interested.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: You gonna deglaze that farkin' pan?


Hell yeah. Another good reason not to make steak on the grill!
 
2013-07-25 04:34:52 PM  

Tigger: Brooklyn is a place for people who want to experience gritty urban authenticity.

Of course none of these people know what gritty urban authenticity is, or how farking unpleasant it is for real.


Great, now I have to feel guilty about not living in the slums of Mumbai?
 
2013-07-25 04:36:47 PM  

El_Perro: brap: Al Di La is pretty excellent as is Roberta's.  Have I ever stood in line two hours to eat at either of them?  Hell no.

But Al Di La is good enough where if I'm walking by it and it looks fairly empty, I will eat there without a second thought.


Especially since Al Di La's wine bar down the block serves the same menu and often has little or no wait (I've walked in there without a wait, when the main restaurant was telling people it would be an hour or more).


Yeah, it's nice to go there and have a couple glasses of wine and and app while you wait.  Yet another misdirected outrage article and thread.  Don't get me wrong though, I love a good misdirected outrage article thread almost as much as I love a good homosexual panic.
 
2013-07-25 04:37:57 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: TheEvilOne23: It used to be that the meal was just the pre fun thing you were gonna do. But these foodie asswipes have turned food into orgasms. Taking pictures of your food while you are at a restaurant I think deserves you getting beat in the face at least once. Trendy or not, fark that noise. I'm happy having a steak at outback as I would at Peter Lugers. Why? Because I am not a lard ass who's world does not relolve around food and/or being seen sitting in stuffy diners that serve barely above McDonalds grade food just to be seen like some asshat with acute attention whore disease. That is a real thing isn't it? If not, just make it up like some mother who is struggling to make their precious snowflake different than all the other booger eaters by saying "My Little Rian Tyan Jefferson cannot eat any food that has touched air" Foodies are idiots. The lot of them. I place them right under lawyers, but above rap talkers (never heard a rapper actually sing before).

1/10

You were off to a good start, and I almost bit on the comparison between Outback and Lugers, but you sort of went off the rails at the end with the unrelated anti-rap tirade and an attempted lawyer joke.  Sometimes less is more.


I'm in a pissed off at the world mood LOL
 
2013-07-25 04:38:24 PM  

brap: Tigger: Brooklyn is a place for people who want to experience gritty urban authenticity.

Of course none of these people know what gritty urban authenticity is, or how farking unpleasant it is for real.

Great, now I have to feel guilty about not living in the slums of Mumbai?


Some people just won't be happy until we're all eating dirt and praying to Al Gore for another ration of carbon-free food pellets.
 
2013-07-25 04:39:08 PM  

brap: Tigger: Brooklyn is a place for people who want to experience gritty urban authenticity.

Of course none of these people know what gritty urban authenticity is, or how farking unpleasant it is for real.

Great, now I have to feel guilty about not living in the slums of Mumbai?


I heard a radio-essay on NPR about how "New York was 'back'" because some black hipster got sprayed with bum piss.
 
2013-07-25 04:42:57 PM  

FlashHarry: "pre eat?" fark you. seriously. fark you.


No, how about I really wouldn't be caught dead in those restaurants.  Not because they don't have great food, but because I don't really give a fark about my hipster cred.

Seriously, if you care about your hipster cred enough that you need to be in one of those restaurants, then you're a loser.
 
2013-07-25 04:43:44 PM  

UsikFark: I heard a radio-essay on NPR about how "New York was 'back'" because some black hipster got sprayed with bum piss.


I too am a big fan of the dadaist direction that Car Talk is taking.
 
2013-07-25 04:43:47 PM  
I knew a New Yorker. Claimed over and over again how "this restaurant had the best..." over and over again. Tried a few. None of them had close to the best of anything. High rent and high prices does not mean high quality...


And hey NYC you rarely have the best, of anything...
 
kth
2013-07-25 04:44:05 PM  
Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah, THIS. Fark that noise. And I can almost guarantee you that what we "pre-eat" at my house will be better than what the restaurant is serving, though probably not nearly as precious.

My thoughts exactly.  I made sous vide scallops pan seared in beurre noisette the other night.  No reason to eat out, definitely no reason to wait two hours to do so, unless it's for something I can't (or won't) make at home.  French Laundry or whole-hog BBQ come to mind.


We love our sous vide. We just did a roast beef a few days go and it is awesome (sous vide 36 hours, blowtorch to sear).  It gets both of us: my OCD self loves the sous vide and my pyro husband loves using a blowtorch.

GQueue: InmanRoshi: I never understood what's the incentive for a restaurant to take reservations in the first place.   So a potential table just sits there empty bringing in no revenue while the reserving party is late and/or no shows?   The fact that they have to take reservations suggest they can't meet current demand of waiting customers.

Next and now Alinea (same people, it worked for Next so they started doing it at Alinea too) in Chicago don't take reservations, they sell tickets.  You pay in advance, so there's no more no-show problem of a table going unused with no revenue.


Between that and Girl and the Goat, I want to eat my way through Chicago (once my long-lost aunt I've never heard of leaves me a boatload of money).

naughtyrev: Treygreen13: So I got out my phone and called the restaurant and made a reservation for 5 minutes after I called. Then I walked up and told her I had a reservation and that I was early.

I did this in DC recently. Walking around, see someplace that looked good, hopped on OpenTable and booked, then walked in the door, past lines and declared I had a reservation. Worked every time, and just made me wonder what the hell the people in line were thinking.


We also love Open Table. I used to travel all the time for work, and racked up lots of points eating at nice restaurants serving whatever the local specialty was. We still go out a fair amount, and every now and again I get $20. Plus, since I use them all the time, there's a little flag on my name that says so, and I occasionally get amuse bouche and other assorted stuff.

Earlier this month, we went to Frasca  in Boulder, and since I put that it was our anniversary in the reservation, the staff stopped by to congratulate us, we got a special dessert and the Chef came by to chat for a while (although that could just be because he caught our eye as he wandered by after talking to the kinda douchey people at the next table).

all that for using a streamlined system that makes it easy to make reservations while parking the car.

/I sound fat
//and happy
 
2013-07-25 04:47:05 PM  

TheNewJesus: I knew a New Yorker. Claimed over and over again how "this restaurant had the best..." over and over again. Tried a few. None of them had close to the best of anything. High rent and high prices does not mean high quality...


And hey NYC you rarely have the best, of anything...


The original Russian Tea Room was amazing.  And NYC owns on deli food.

The three cities in the US I can eat well in.

NYC
New Orleans(hometown)
San Francisco
 
2013-07-25 04:47:16 PM  
"Hip borough restaurants..."

Please don't move to Austin or San Antonio once you hate living there.

Sincerely,
Native Texans
 
2013-07-25 04:52:38 PM  

UsikFark: vernonFL: UsikFark: Brooklyn is "New York's most populous borough." It's weird when people discuss it like it's a quaint place when the "neighborhood's" aggregate society is bigger than entire metro areas on the mainland US.

Yeah but the parts of Brooklyn where the hipsters are form a small part of the borough.

I can get that articles would only be about this hip parts, but don't those hip parts have names? You don't just lump together two million people and hundreds (?) of city blocks under one name if your audience is local, or even if it's national... unless it's Brooklyn :-|


Here's what I can tell from my time here so far: Brooklyn Heights, Borough Park, Boerum Hill, Cobble Hill, DUMBO, and Williamsburg are all straight-up hipster. Downtown/Metrotech and Fort Greene are somewhat/in some parts(and downright sketchy in others).  Granted, I haven't been all around the borough, but those are my observations so far.
 
2013-07-25 04:59:31 PM  

Rincewind53: This sh*t is common in DC too. Many of the hottest restaurants in town don't take reservations. One of them I used to go to when the waits were only 45 minutes. The restaurant was above a bar, and they'd just text you when your seat was ready. So you could just go out your name in, then go downstairs and have a few drinks first.

Sadly, the wait had doubled, so it's just not worth it anymore.


I hear that. I am in DC as well (Farragut North) and it's down here as well...........I am originally from Brooklyn so I thought I left all the hipsters behind up there but guess not!
 
2013-07-25 04:59:35 PM  
Brooklyn Heights is considered hipster?  Book it folks, the word has officially lost all meaning.
 
2013-07-25 05:02:17 PM  

Tigger: Brooklyn is a place for people who want to experience gritty urban authenticity.

Of course none of these people know what gritty urban authenticity is, or how farking unpleasant it is for real.


Ya. Two hour wait food isn't about the food. It's about the experience or whatever.

Anyone recommend a cheap good French place in DFW? Never tried that and I'm sure there has to be one somewhere.
 
2013-07-25 05:04:42 PM  

jedichrist: Rincewind53: This sh*t is common in DC too. Many of the hottest restaurants in town don't take reservations. One of them I used to go to when the waits were only 45 minutes. The restaurant was above a bar, and they'd just text you when your seat was ready. So you could just go out your name in, then go downstairs and have a few drinks first.

Sadly, the wait had doubled, so it's just not worth it anymore.

I hear that. I am in DC as well (Farragut North) and it's down here as well...........I am originally from Brooklyn so I thought I left all the hipsters behind up there but guess not!


Yeah. I was talking about Toki Underground, which is DELICIOUS.
 
2013-07-25 05:06:41 PM  
eat at P.F. Chang's b4hand

www.southwaltonliving.com
 
2013-07-25 05:11:13 PM  

brap: Brooklyn Heights is considered hipster?  Book it folks, the word has officially lost all meaning.


I hit up google streetview and it looks authentic, you know? I'm not from New York, but the streets I "wandered" probably have some demand from people willing to pay rent rent for their sense of authenticity.
 
2013-07-25 05:11:39 PM  

vernonFL: tlchwi02: i assume the harlem one? i can't imagine that troy or rochester are that busy

I love the one in Syracuse. That is a fun place. Good food, loud music


i've been to 'cuse, troy and harlem. i can't judge harlem too harshly because it was an early lunch but the others were rocking.

/also you can buy their sauce in grocery stores over most of the north east and its pretty good
 
2013-07-25 05:15:22 PM  
Oh, they take reservations. But from a phone line shared only with Amex Platinum and Centurion concierges
 
2013-07-25 05:18:20 PM  
26 College Place, New York, United States
Someone has a smart car parked in their "driveway" which appears to be the sidewalk. It's so hip.
 
2013-07-25 05:22:19 PM  
eat this
dustinstockton.com
then fancy food
with your $1,407,632.98 NYC salary
 
2013-07-25 05:24:05 PM  
Tadich Grill doesn't take reservations.  But it is old school and in the financial district.  Not some trendy hipster grill.


http://www.tadichgrill.com/
 
2013-07-25 05:27:02 PM  

ManateeGag: /CSB

Incidentally, I went to Dinosaur BBQ with my wife and some friends.  we were seated in about had our orders taken in about 20 minutes.  after 45 minutes of waiting for food, the waiter comes over, said they ran out of pork and would we want anything else.  We decided to leave, but my wife raised a shiatstorm with the manager, and we ended up getting a comped dinner out of the deal the next time we are there.

/CSB


Makes me think of the time I was in High School and went to Drive Thru Arby's and they told me they were out of Roast Beef. That's what you do! How do you run out of the thing you do?
 
2013-07-25 05:27:51 PM  

bhcompy: As a current, temporary Brooklyn resident, I haven't seen this.  Walk down Smith St and some restaurants have lines, and some don't.  They're all the same French-inspired bistro/steakhouse style with overpriced hanger steak, truffled mashed potatoes, truffled fries(sorry, frites), green beans(sorry, haricot verts), and a moderate liquor selection(but shiatty, hipster beers), so it doesn't really matter where you eat.


uh, yeah that's because Cobble Hill has been a boring (though beautiful) place for temporary residents like you for a long time now. They need to offer the typical bourgeois crap bourgeois people like you have come to expect

go to bushwick, greenpoint, bed-stuy, or williamsburg and you will find a lot more interesting new-fusion

/wanted to live in cobble hill but couldn't afford it back then and certainly couldn't afford it now so good on you
 
2013-07-25 05:30:02 PM  

bhcompy: UsikFark: vernonFL: UsikFark: Brooklyn is "New York's most populous borough." It's weird when people discuss it like it's a quaint place when the "neighborhood's" aggregate society is bigger than entire metro areas on the mainland US.

Yeah but the parts of Brooklyn where the hipsters are form a small part of the borough.

I can get that articles would only be about this hip parts, but don't those hip parts have names? You don't just lump together two million people and hundreds (?) of city blocks under one name if your audience is local, or even if it's national... unless it's Brooklyn :-|

Here's what I can tell from my time here so far: Brooklyn Heights, Borough Park, Boerum Hill, Cobble Hill, DUMBO, and Williamsburg are all straight-up hipster. Downtown/Metrotech and Fort Greene are somewhat/in some parts(and downright sketchy in others).  Granted, I haven't been all around the borough, but those are my observations so far.


Ha.
 
2013-07-25 05:31:42 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-25 05:37:50 PM  

tricycleracer: Tat'dGreaser: Goddamn, New Yorkers have to be the dumbest people on the planet

It's a city full of people who moved to New York to be New Yorkers.  The problem is that all the transplants are unknowingly taking cues from each other.


Silicon Valley is like that.  Everyone in it is from the midwest, because the actual Californians got tired of putting up with CA's shiat and moved to the other western states (and then got busy making those states just as screwed up as CA).

/Seriously, at my 8 person company, not one person is from CA originally.  4 immigrants, 4 people from the midwest.
 
2013-07-25 06:07:00 PM  

Hoboclown: it's a Croissant crossed with a donut. From what I hear, people show up crazy early for them and sell out by 9am every morning.

Isn't it because they deliberately only make a small amount each day?


No because the world is chock-full of hipster dufii.
 
2013-07-25 06:08:58 PM  
Is this a foodie biatching thread?  Because I would like to nutpunch whoever got people to start calling appetizers 'apps.'  No, farkfaces, if I can't download it to my smartphone, it's not a farking app, it's farking food and you can say a few extra syllables.

It's a minor thing and someday I'll get over it, but goddamn, that phrase annoys me.
 
2013-07-25 06:15:00 PM  

KhamanV: Is this a foodie biatching thread?  Because I would like to nutpunch whoever got people to start calling appetizers 'apps.'  No, farkfaces, if I can't download it to my smartphone, it's not a farking app, it's farking food and you can say a few extra syllables.

It's a minor thing and someday I'll get over it, but goddamn, that phrase annoys me.


Say it with me:

"Application".  What you run on your smartphone is an "application".  You can say a few extra syllables, can't you?
 
2013-07-25 06:23:48 PM  

Kraftwerk Orange: KhamanV: Is this a foodie biatching thread?  Because I would like to nutpunch whoever got people to start calling appetizers 'apps.'  No, farkfaces, if I can't download it to my smartphone, it's not a farking app, it's farking food and you can say a few extra syllables.

It's a minor thing and someday I'll get over it, but goddamn, that phrase annoys me.

Say it with me:

"Application".  What you run on your smartphone is an "application".  You can say a few extra syllables, can't you?


I grant your point, but when we're discussing food, it sounds stupid as the loanword already has a societal meaning.   Unless I'm downloading food from a Starfleet replicator, it sounds absolutely ridiculous when said by someone or emblazoned on a billboard.
 
2013-07-25 06:26:06 PM  

Kraftwerk Orange: KhamanV: Is this a foodie biatching thread?  Because I would like to nutpunch whoever got people to start calling appetizers 'apps.'  No, farkfaces, if I can't download it to my smartphone, it's not a farking app, it's farking food and you can say a few extra syllables.

It's a minor thing and someday I'll get over it, but goddamn, that phrase annoys me.

Say it with me:

"Application".  What you run on your smartphone is an "application".  You can say a few extra syllables, can't you?


I like 'app' for smartphones and tablets and 'application' for full blown PC/Laptop/full-computer programs.  While there is some crossover between most smartphone/tablet programs are smaller and less fully featured than full 'applications' so 'app' works.
 
2013-07-25 06:33:30 PM  
Holy shiat, I can't think of anything I'd be willing to wait two hours for. Who the hell would I invoice for that?
 
2013-07-25 06:41:12 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Kraftwerk Orange: KhamanV: Is this a foodie biatching thread?  Because I would like to nutpunch whoever got people to start calling appetizers 'apps.'  No, farkfaces, if I can't download it to my smartphone, it's not a farking app, it's farking food and you can say a few extra syllables.

It's a minor thing and someday I'll get over it, but goddamn, that phrase annoys me.

Say it with me:

"Application".  What you run on your smartphone is an "application".  You can say a few extra syllables, can't you?

I like 'app' for smartphones and tablets and 'application' for full blown PC/Laptop/full-computer programs.  While there is some crossover between most smartphone/tablet programs are smaller and less fully featured than full 'applications' so 'app' works.


in my day we called them progs.  Get off my digital lawn you computer hipster!
 
2013-07-25 06:47:31 PM  

naughtyrev: People are dragging themselves to Brooklyn and waiting 2 hours in line at a pizza place?


Standing around in a back corner at Di Fara's for 90 minutes waiting for Dom to make your pie?  Worth it, at least once every few years.

Standing outside a cinderblock hut I've never heard of, in Bushwick, to eat pizza?  You are stupid.
 
2013-07-25 06:53:47 PM  

UsikFark: Brooklyn is "New York's most populous borough." It's weird when people discuss it like it's a quaint place when the "neighborhood's" aggregate society is bigger than entire metro areas on the mainland US.


By population, Brooklyn is the fourth largest city in the United States, and the 36th largest state.
 
2013-07-25 06:59:57 PM  

brap: Brooklyn Heights is considered hipster?  Book it folks, the word has officially lost all meaning.


www.sitcomsonline.com

"Its got a great view, though."
 
2013-07-25 07:10:34 PM  

poot_rootbeer: UsikFark: Brooklyn is "New York's most populous borough." It's weird when people discuss it like it's a quaint place when the "neighborhood's" aggregate society is bigger than entire metro areas on the mainland US.

By population, Brooklyn is the fourth largest city in the United States, and the 36th largest state.


I know, kind of ironic... wait...
 
2013-07-25 07:14:21 PM  
Sounds like an opportunity for some enterprising yoots to stand in for somebody or small party who wants to dine there w/o hanging around for a hour or two.  $25 ought to do it.
 
2013-07-25 07:38:42 PM  

SordidEuphemism: CSB:

Not my idea, read it in a magazine years back, but when the littles were, well, little, we would serve them a sit-down dinner at home before we went out to a big restaurant. Not talking family spots that cater to kids, but the more formal places. The kids would feast on their favorite chicken fingers or mac & cheese or $latestfoodcraving, and then when we went to the restaurant we'd simply let them order a dessert from the menu.

Not only did it keep prices down, but the kids were interested in going to the restaurant, and were easier to handle because they weren't waiting interminably (for a kid) for course 3: warm water on a fifteen course menu or some silliness. Add in the bonus that we didn't have to shell for a babysitter and could actually expose the littles to something new, inexpensively, and it was one of the best articles I've ever put to use.

/CSB


That's brilliant. About how old were your kids before you started bringing them out with you?
 
2013-07-25 07:38:58 PM  

wee: Benevolent Misanthrope: So do you have a dedicated sous vide machine, or did you make one yourself? (SO jealous, I really want a sous vide.)

I made one out of a digital temp controller, a spare electrical box I had laying around and a piece of extension cord.  It's really simple to make, and costs around $35.  Here's a video of me testing it right after I first wired it all together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt6eho1GFF8

I hooked up an old crock pot to it: http://i.imgur.com/RY7BqXD.jpg  You can also use a rice cooker if you like, but the ceramic gives you a little more "thermal battery".  Lots of folks say you need to stir the water or whatever, but since it heats from all around, there's no real need.

Best steaks you can eat, let me tell you.  For an inch and a half, they stay in for two hours.  Then out of the bag and into a hot, buttery pan 60 seconds per side. Really nice crust, and almost zero internal transition between medium rare and the crusty outside.

I'll build one for you if you like, for the cost of the parts.  Send me an email if you're interested.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: You gonna deglaze that farkin' pan?

Hell yeah. Another good reason not to make steak on the grill!


My sister might be interested.  She's a culinary science student.
 
2013-07-25 07:44:25 PM  

wee: Benevolent Misanthrope: So do you have a dedicated sous vide machine, or did you make one yourself? (SO jealous, I really want a sous vide.)

I made one out of a digital temp controller, a spare electrical box I had laying around and a piece of extension cord.  It's really simple to make, and costs around $35.  Here's a video of me testing it right after I first wired it all together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt6eho1GFF8

I hooked up an old crock pot to it: http://i.imgur.com/RY7BqXD.jpg  You can also use a rice cooker if you like, but the ceramic gives you a little more "thermal battery".  Lots of folks say you need to stir the water or whatever, but since it heats from all around, there's no real need.

Best steaks you can eat, let me tell you.  For an inch and a half, they stay in for two hours.  Then out of the bag and into a hot, buttery pan 60 seconds per side. Really nice crust, and almost zero internal transition between medium rare and the crusty outside.

I'll build one for you if you like, for the cost of the parts.  Send me an email if you're interested.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: You gonna deglaze that farkin' pan?

Hell yeah. Another good reason not to make steak on the grill!


My sister might be interested.  She's a culinary science student.  I'll ask her and get back to you - sounds like something she'd find neat!
 
2013-07-25 07:56:33 PM  
"Pre-eat"? Fark that. Belly up to the bar and "Pre-drink".
 
2013-07-25 08:02:33 PM  
I used to hit an Italian place in Atlanta like this.  The Osso was worth it and the wine bar next door absolutely loved it.
 
2013-07-25 08:02:33 PM  

FedExPope: SordidEuphemism: CSB:

Not my idea, read it in a magazine years back, but when the littles were, well, little, we would serve them a sit-down dinner at home before we went out to a big restaurant. Not talking family spots that cater to kids, but the more formal places. The kids would feast on their favorite chicken fingers or mac & cheese or $latestfoodcraving, and then when we went to the restaurant we'd simply let them order a dessert from the menu.

Not only did it keep prices down, but the kids were interested in going to the restaurant, and were easier to handle because they weren't waiting interminably (for a kid) for course 3: warm water on a fifteen course menu or some silliness. Add in the bonus that we didn't have to shell for a babysitter and could actually expose the littles to something new, inexpensively, and it was one of the best articles I've ever put to use.

/CSB

That's brilliant. About how old were your kids before you started bringing them out with you?


2 years, for the eldest. Before then, we were lucky to get her away from her grandparents, and nobody at a restaurant wants to hear when the plumbing rattles on an infant. I tell you, that girl has cast iron pipes. She'll be 21 this year.
 
2013-07-25 08:06:52 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: wee: Slaxl: The whole point of reservations is so we don't have to wait. Why needlessly bring that back?

Because making people wait adds the perception of value.  Its like those stupid chain restaurants (Islands, Cheescake Factory, et al.) that always make you wait a little while.  They're trying to make you think you're getting something your not.  Why people would go to Brooklyn to wait in line is beyond me, however.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah, THIS. Fark that noise. And I can almost guarantee you that what we "pre-eat" at my house will be better than what the restaurant is serving, though probably not nearly as precious.
 
My thoughts exactly.  I made sous vide scallops pan seared in beurre noisette the other night.  No reason to eat out, definitely no reason to wait two hours to do so, unless it's for something I can't (or won't) make at home.  French Laundry or whole-hog BBQ come to mind.

So do you have a dedicated sous vide machine, or did you make one yourself?  (SO jealous, I really want a sous vide.)


I've built a few. $75 in parts, $100 if you want a decent heating element. Google it or email me (EIP) and I will tell you what I do. It's great fun. And that first incredibly perfect steak is worth it.
 
2013-07-25 08:24:09 PM  

ricewater_stool: Dear Brooklyn: get over yourself. You're just not that cool.


Funny thing, 90% of the people waiting on line for those places are not from Brooklyn. Large majority come from flyover shiatholes where nothing would ever be worth waiting more than three minutes for, so to them, this is a novelty. Just more "life experiences" to share a future dinner parties when they go back to the suburb they came from to show how cultured they are.

Brooklyn has become a playground for cul-de-sac bred Kidults, and these are their school cafeterias.
 
2013-07-25 08:40:43 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Pre-eat.

Kill yourself.

I can see waiting 2 hours if I can have cocktails and a table while I wait, but that would be the only exception. No meal is worth that kind of wait unless somebody is making it at your house without a sous chef.

I can see pre-drinking before going to a club, because that's just good economics. We call that "priming the pump."


I'm channeling "My Dinner with Andre".
 
2013-07-25 08:46:57 PM  

Rev.K: Treygreen13: [img2.timeinc.net image 612x340]
New York's hottest restaurant is SPEE-LUNK.  This eatery literally has everything: Pork Knees, an Ethiopian guy who begs for your food while salsa dancing, and for dessert, they offer a tiramisu that you have to make yourself and then serve to other customers. Make sure you eat before you go, however, because head chef Carlos Dangeroux is known for his WILD OUTBURST as much as his Air-Grilled Salmon Flakes!

Well played.

i lol'd


  Me too.

Benevolent Misanthrope: wee: Slaxl: The whole point of reservations is so we don't have to wait. Why needlessly bring that back?

Because making people wait adds the perception of value.  Its like those stupid chain restaurants (Islands, Cheescake Factory, et al.) that always make you wait a little while.  They're trying to make you think you're getting something your not.  Why people would go to Brooklyn to wait in line is beyond me, however.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah, THIS. Fark that noise. And I can almost guarantee you that what we "pre-eat" at my house will be better than what the restaurant is serving, though probably not nearly as precious.
 
My thoughts exactly.  I made sous vide scallops pan seared in beurre noisette the other night.  No reason to eat out, definitely no reason to wait two hours to do so, unless it's for something I can't (or won't) make at home.  French Laundry or whole-hog BBQ come to mind.

So do you have a dedicated sous vide machine, or did you make one yourself?  (SO jealous, I really want a sous vide.)


Wah...............now I'm misting up. I don't even know what "sous vide" is.  :-(      But then, I'm from Baltimore.
 
2013-07-25 09:10:48 PM  

Fusilier: Rev.K: Treygreen13: [img2.timeinc.net image 612x340]
New York's hottest restaurant is SPEE-LUNK.  This eatery literally has everything: Pork Knees, an Ethiopian guy who begs for your food while salsa dancing, and for dessert, they offer a tiramisu that you have to make yourself and then serve to other customers. Make sure you eat before you go, however, because head chef Carlos Dangeroux is known for his WILD OUTBURST as much as his Air-Grilled Salmon Flakes!

Well played.

i lol'd

  Me too.
Benevolent Misanthrope: wee: Slaxl: The whole point of reservations is so we don't have to wait. Why needlessly bring that back?

Because making people wait adds the perception of value.  Its like those stupid chain restaurants (Islands, Cheescake Factory, et al.) that always make you wait a little while.  They're trying to make you think you're getting something your not.  Why people would go to Brooklyn to wait in line is beyond me, however.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah, THIS. Fark that noise. And I can almost guarantee you that what we "pre-eat" at my house will be better than what the restaurant is serving, though probably not nearly as precious.
 
My thoughts exactly.  I made sous vide scallops pan seared in beurre noisette the other night.  No reason to eat out, definitely no reason to wait two hours to do so, unless it's for something I can't (or won't) make at home.  French Laundry or whole-hog BBQ come to mind.

So do you have a dedicated sous vide machine, or did you make one yourself?  (SO jealous, I really want a sous vide.)

Wah...............now I'm misting up. I don't even know what "sous vide" is.  :-(      But then, I'm from Baltimore.


It just means cooking the food in a pouch (usually a vacuum sealed plastic one) in a temperature controlled water bath.  You get slow even cooking, and you can control the final 'done-ness' of the item by whatever temperature you set the bath.  So if you want medium-rare, you set the bath at 125-130 degrees, plop the bags of steak in (and you can put some aromatics or seasoning in the bags with it if you like) and after a period of time you have perfectly medium rare steaks that won't over cook because they'll never go above the water bath temperature.

You then just sear them off in a pan to get a crust and the flavor from that.
 
2013-07-25 09:57:17 PM  

NostroZ: vernonFL: If the wait is more than 45 minutes, I'm not waiting. Especially if there is no room at the bar.

True, but sometimes it's worth the wait...
[tektitegroup.files.wordpress.com image 800x533]
admittedly, this is not a Brooklyn restaurant, but my local Girl & the Goat in Chicago... still pretty posh.


First, no, none of that would be "worth the wait". My wife makes food like that. No, she will not be a chef. She likes to cook for just a few people and no more. She hates being on her feet 8 hours at a time. She learned how to cook very well and does so.

Second, people who take photos of their food are somewhere less interesting and worthwhile than my grandchildrens' diapers.

Third, I like to make numbered lists and be a real asshole by spelling out all the numbers instead of using numerals.
 
wee
2013-07-25 10:14:49 PM  

madanimalscientist: My sister might be interested. She's a culinary science student. I'll ask her and get back to you - sounds like something she'd find neat!


Yeah sure, let me know.  It's about $35 in parts and I'm not sure how long to actually build.  An hour?  I was monekying around with various options my first one, so I have no clue.  Parts plus do a good deed for someone someday?  A 12 pack of local beer from your area?  Whatever. :-)
 
2013-07-25 10:59:24 PM  
I suppose seatings are too bourgeois.
 
2013-07-26 01:29:32 AM  

InmanRoshi: I never understood what's the incentive for a restaurant to take reservations in the first place.   So a potential table just sits there empty bringing in no revenue while the reserving party is late and/or no shows?   The fact that they have to take reservations suggest they can't meet current demand of waiting customers.


Many customers will avoid a restaurant which does not offer reservations specifcally because they do not want to wait an indeterminate amount of time.

This may not matter to a trendy place at full capacity.  It may in a couple of years when they have fewer customers.
 
2013-07-26 04:49:08 AM  
Because long lines of people waiting to get in makes them seem more popular, that's why.
 
2013-07-26 07:46:33 AM  

Kraftwerk Orange: KhamanV: Is this a foodie biatching thread?  Because I would like to nutpunch whoever got people to start calling appetizers 'apps.'  No, farkfaces, if I can't download it to my smartphone, it's not a farking app, it's farking food and you can say a few extra syllables.

It's a minor thing and someday I'll get over it, but goddamn, that phrase annoys me.

Say it with me:

"Application".  What you run on your smartphone is an "application".  You can say a few extra syllables, can't you?


In my day, an application was what you called a coat of paint.
 
2013-07-26 09:27:30 AM  

Kraftwerk Orange: "Application".  What you run on your smartphone is an "application".  You can say a few extra syllables, can't you?


Or you can just call it a "program", more accurate and with the extra syllable you save you've got plenty of time to wait around for your food.
 
2013-07-26 09:39:48 AM  

wee: madanimalscientist: My sister might be interested. She's a culinary science student. I'll ask her and get back to you - sounds like something she'd find neat!

Yeah sure, let me know.  It's about $35 in parts and I'm not sure how long to actually build.  An hour?  I was monekying around with various options my first one, so I have no clue.  Parts plus do a good deed for someone someday?  A 12 pack of local beer from your area?  Whatever. :-)


I asked my sister, and she's not interested atm.  Sorry.  It sounds like an awesome setup, though!
 
2013-07-26 09:45:48 AM  
No reservations, eh?  Sounds like they stole the idea from McDonalds.

\suck it, hipsters
 
2013-07-26 10:13:35 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: ZAZ: Stop feeling so special. Long waits are not an exclusive Brooklyn thing.

Very true.  Hell, I was out with some people after a work thing and they wanted to go to dinner at Olive Garden afterwards (it was a group consensus and I figured it wasn't worth the fight).  We got there and were told it would be at least an hour to get a table.  Thankfully rational thought prevailed and we just went to a brewpub down the street instead that had much better beer, better food, and no wait.


You blew it. You walked away from the most accurate representation of traditional Italian food there is for a brewpub?

For shame.
 
2013-07-26 10:40:32 AM  
An hour wait?  That's cute.

Franklin's BBQ in Austin has a line because they sell out of food.  The problem with smoked BBQ is it takes 12-24 hours to make, and you can only run so many grills at once, so after a certain point they simply run out.  When I went last, I got there around 8:00am on a Saturday, to ensure I'd be at the front of the line when they open at 11.  If you get there at 11am, simply, you will not be eating that day, since you won't reach the front until 1-1:30 at best.

It's actually pretty amusing:
i.imgur.com
... and the line keeps going
i.imgur.com
and going ... but I don't need to post any more pictures.

They actually send a person out to collect orders beforehand - not so they can premake it, but so she can tell people at some point in the line, "There's not going to be any of that left by the time you get to the door, would you like something else?"

It's entirely worth waiting for at least once, as it's well priced for the "best bbq in America" according to Bon Appetit. However, I don't think I can ever condone doing that too often.  It's a waste of the full first half of the day, just to get a tasty lunch.  Better to go in with your friends and call in a group order 2-3 days before, so you can skip the line and pick up your food, if you're really into it.  The folks that don't do that, and keep going back?  They're just in it for the hipster-trend of it.  You can identify them easily by their wool caps in the middle of july in texas, and their mating calls like, "The waiting is part of the experience!"
 
2013-07-26 11:47:07 AM  
opps should have kept reading
 
wee
2013-07-26 01:33:31 PM  

quietwalker: smoked BBQ is it takes 12-24 hours to make, and you can only run so many grills at once


There aren't any goddam grills in a BBQ place!  And "smoked BBQ" is an oxymoron.  BBQ is always smoked.  If it's not smoked, it's not BBQ.  Ever.
 
2013-07-26 01:56:22 PM  

Killer Cars: But guys, the the mud soup and charcoal arugula is outrageous there.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-26 04:29:53 PM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Because long lines of people waiting to get in makes them seem more popular, that's why.


By definition, if they constantly have long lines of people waiting to get in, they *are* popular.
 
2013-07-26 06:31:03 PM  

wee: quietwalker: smoked BBQ is it takes 12-24 hours to make, and you can only run so many grills at once

There aren't any goddam grills in a BBQ place!  And "smoked BBQ" is an oxymoron.  BBQ is always smoked.  If it's not smoked, it's not BBQ.  Ever.


You might want to consider switching to decaf.
 
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