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2013-07-25 12:30:12 PM
Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?
 
2013-07-25 12:33:35 PM

Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?


To be fair, the DoJ has a fairly colorful recent history of suffering asshats at the helm.
 
2013-07-25 12:33:37 PM

Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?


because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?
 
2013-07-25 12:35:09 PM
Excellent. This is exactly what needs to be done.
 
2013-07-25 12:37:12 PM
In other news, a broken clock is right twice a day.
 
2013-07-25 12:37:45 PM
Good.
 
2013-07-25 12:37:56 PM
As a conservative, I'd like to offer a compromise: let us keep our new disenfranchisement laws on the books and if there is anyone who can't produce the appropriate ID we will still count their vote...

...as 3/5ths of a regular vote.
 
2013-07-25 12:37:58 PM

somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?


Fast & Furious would have resulted in a Rapeublican being hung for treason
 
2013-07-25 12:39:08 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: As a conservative, I'd like to offer a compromise: let us keep our new disenfranchisement laws on the books and if there is anyone who can't produce the appropriate ID we will still count their vote...

...as 3/5ths of a regular vote.


**Evil finger tapping** Eeeexxxcellent!
 
2013-07-25 12:40:37 PM

somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?


Agitating republican butthurt.
 
2013-07-25 12:43:16 PM

somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?


AGing while Blah?
 
2013-07-25 12:44:51 PM

Smeggy Smurf: somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?

Fast & Furious would have resulted in a Rapeublican being hung for treason


Why wasn't it, then? It was started by a Republican AG.
 
2013-07-25 12:45:13 PM

Smeggy Smurf: somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?

Fast & Furious would have resulted in a Rapeublican being hung for treason


Go home. You're drunk.
 
2013-07-25 12:45:39 PM
 
2013-07-25 12:45:49 PM
Simple. The GOP lives in a fantasy world
 
2013-07-25 12:46:07 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: As a conservative, I'd like to offer a compromise: let us keep our new disenfranchisement laws on the books and if there is anyone who can't produce the appropriate ID we will still count their vote...

...as 3/5ths of a regular vote.


Ah....the oft-used, but widely misunderstood 3/5ths compromise....
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 12:46:07 PM
In before "Democrap illegal alien minority voters always vote 50 times in each election and so we need IDs and poll taxes and poll tests" Derp.
 
2013-07-25 12:46:15 PM

somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?


HSBC alone puts him in the top 5 of worst AG in US history
 
2013-07-25 12:47:34 PM
Holder said he is asking a federal judge to require Texas to submit all voting law changes to the Justice Department for approval for a ten-year period because of its history of discrimination.

No. No no no no. This is the WRONG way to do it, Jesus Christ the SCOTUS just struck down this "your grandpappy was a Klansman so you have to get our permission before you change the laws" shiat, and they're trying it again.

Is Texas a festering boil on the anus of America that needs someone to look after it? Of course it is. But not because of the farking civil war.

The DOJ needs to investigate EVERY change to voter laws, in EVERY state. PA and WI have been trying to disenfranchise the poor right along with the confederacy.
 
2013-07-25 12:48:27 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Fast & Furious would have resulted in a Rapeublican being hung for treason


it was a Republican that started it

Blathering Idjut: Agitating republican butthurt.


yeah, but Obama does that

sdd2000: AGing while Blah?


he's gonna get replaced by Deval Patrick so they'll still have the same problem, just with a different blah person
 
2013-07-25 12:48:39 PM

kidgenius: Uranus Is Huge!: As a conservative, I'd like to offer a compromise: let us keep our new disenfranchisement laws on the books and if there is anyone who can't produce the appropriate ID we will still count their vote...

...as 3/5ths of a regular vote.

Ah....the oft-used, but widely misunderstood 3/5ths compromise....


Ah...the oft used, but never amusing literal interpretation.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 12:48:46 PM

ShadowKamui: somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?

HSBC alone puts him in the top 5 of worst AG in US history


somehow I don't think all the people talking about "Obozo" and "Fartbama" have any problem with his bank bailouts... which is why I don't like him.
 
2013-07-25 12:50:20 PM

somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?


How about perjury (testomony before congress) with regards to Fast and Furious,  phone records of AP reporters?

How about unable to control those who work for him if you are not going to hold him personally accountable?

Shoddy work by his Department their paper work involving ther extradition of child rapist Polanski and NSA leaker Snowden, along withe two tries it took to get Blogo?

Wasting  resources on Roger Clements
 
2013-07-25 12:51:45 PM

what_now: Holder said he is asking a federal judge to require Texas to submit all voting law changes to the Justice Department for approval for a ten-year period because of its history of discrimination.

No. No no no no. This is the WRONG way to do it, Jesus Christ the SCOTUS just struck down this "your grandpappy was a Klansman so you have to get our permission before you change the laws" shiat, and they're trying it again.

Is Texas a festering boil on the anus of America that needs someone to look after it? Of course it is. But not because of the farking civil war.

The DOJ needs to investigate EVERY change to voter laws, in EVERY state. PA and WI have been trying to disenfranchise the poor right along with the confederacy.


Well, what the Supreme Court did was for no constitutional reason. 'Strike out the guidelines and tell the House to redo them' was just sabotage.
 
2013-07-25 12:51:57 PM

hasty ambush: somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?

How about perjury (testomony before congress) with regards to Fast and Furious,  phone records of AP reporters?

How about unable to control those who work for him if you are not going to hold him personally accountable?

Shoddy work by his Department their paper work involving ther extradition of child rapist Polanski and NSA leaker Snowden, along withe two tries it took to get Blogo?

Wasting  resources on Roger Clements


How about some Preparation H for that cooling soothing sensation?
 
2013-07-25 12:51:58 PM

ShadowKamui: HSBC alone puts him in the top 5 of worst AG in US history


true, but he still hasn't done anything illegal or worthy of sacking by politics standards.
 
2013-07-25 12:52:17 PM

ShadowKamui: somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?

HSBC alone puts him in the top 5 of worst AG in US history


Who was the last good one? I can't think of a decent one in my voting lifetime...

/Which is not a defense of Holder, btw
 
2013-07-25 12:53:12 PM

d23: ShadowKamui: somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?

HSBC alone puts him in the top 5 of worst AG in US history

somehow I don't think all the people talking about "Obozo" and "Fartbama" have any problem with his bank bailouts... which is why I don't like him.


You don't like him because of something Bush did?
 
2013-07-25 12:54:21 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Smeggy Smurf: somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?

Fast & Furious would have resulted in a Rapeublican being hung for treason

Why wasn't it, then? It was started by a Republican AG.


No it wasn't



President Obama Falsely Claims Fast and Furious Program "Begun Under the Previous Administration"
In actuality, the Fast and Furious program was started in October 2009, nine months into the Obama presidency.
 
2013-07-25 12:56:13 PM
To hell with this gimpy "lawsuit" bullcrap. Push a bill nationalizing federal elections. If there's a federal office on the ballot, that ballot and election  must conform to national standards for ballot design, acceptable ballot machines, counting methods, recount standards, registration dates, early and absentee voting, fraud investigations and prosecution, and yes even voter ID's. If states choose to not comply to national standards for federal elections, they lose all federal funding until such a time they're compliant.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 12:56:33 PM

cameroncrazy1984: d23: ShadowKamui: somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?

HSBC alone puts him in the top 5 of worst AG in US history

somehow I don't think all the people talking about "Obozo" and "Fartbama" have any problem with his bank bailouts... which is why I don't like him.

You don't like him because of something Bush did?


I suggest you read "Confidence Men" by Ron Suskind.  That book documents the fact that from the VERY first day of Obama becoming President Elect he was determined to kiss the ass of the banks.  And I mean literally the first day.  It was what his first meeting was about.

And, FYI, Bush is just as much at fault, but the fault here is not mutually exclusive.  Furthermore, I think Bush was the worst President in history, but Obama is not a good president because Bush was so bad.
 
2013-07-25 12:56:48 PM

what_now: Holder said he is asking a federal judge to require Texas to submit all voting law changes to the Justice Department for approval for a ten-year period because of its history of discrimination.

No. No no no no. This is the WRONG way to do it, Jesus Christ the SCOTUS just struck down this "your grandpappy was a Klansman so you have to get our permission before you change the laws" shiat, and they're trying it again.

Is Texas a festering boil on the anus of America that needs someone to look after it? Of course it is. But not because of the farking civil war.

The DOJ needs to investigate EVERY change to voter laws, in EVERY state. PA and WI have been trying to disenfranchise the poor right along with the confederacy.


It's history of discrimination is a lot more recent than the civil war.
 
2013-07-25 12:57:50 PM

somedude210: ShadowKamui: HSBC alone puts him in the top 5 of worst AG in US history

true, but he still hasn't done anything illegal or worthy of sacking by politics standards.


He should have been sacked for the Aaron Swartz indecent.  His underling tried to railroad Swartz which resulted in Swartz's death.   Holder's response was say that that was a good thing

 
2013-07-25 12:57:53 PM
I for one find it hard to believe that the supposedly disenfranchised groups of people who can come up with the necessary identification to get their welfare, MEDICAID, food stamps etc cannot come up withe a picture ID when they want to vote.
 
2013-07-25 01:00:08 PM
People get mad when you point out Obama is the best Republican president in my lifetime.
 
2013-07-25 01:00:13 PM

Alphax: Well, what the Supreme Court did was for no constitutional reason. 'Strike out the guidelines and tell the House to redo them' was just sabotage.


I like that Justice Soupbrain said the VRA being voted on unanimously was grounds that it sucked comma and because, yet the next day said the near-unanimous vote on DOMA was proof it was totes awesome.
 
2013-07-25 01:00:29 PM

gilgigamesh: It's history of discrimination is a lot more recent than the civil war.


So is that of Northern and Midwestern states that stayed in the Union, or weren't actually states yet to participate, that got the pass by the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Let's quit deluding ourselves this is a "southern" problem and bashing SCOTUS on that basis.
 
2013-07-25 01:01:12 PM

czetie: ShadowKamui: somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?

HSBC alone puts him in the top 5 of worst AG in US history

Who was the last good one? I can't think of a decent one in my voting lifetime...

/Which is not a defense of Holder, btw


The first one under Bush Sr

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Thornburgh
 
2013-07-25 01:01:48 PM

hasty ambush: cameroncrazy1984: Smeggy Smurf: somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?

Fast & Furious would have resulted in a Rapeublican being hung for treason

Why wasn't it, then? It was started by a Republican AG.

No it wasn't

President Obama Falsely Claims Fast and Furious Program "Begun Under the Previous Administration"
In actuality, the Fast and Furious program was started in October 2009, nine months into the Obama presidency.


From Your FA: Asked for comment, White House Spokesman Eric Schultz said, "The President was referring to the flawed tactic of gun-walking, which despite Republicans efforts to politicize this issue, began under the previous Administration and it was our Attorney General who ended it. In fact, this week's IG report affirms this and if Republicans still have any legitimate questions about Fast and Furious, the 450-page report answers them. In light of this thorough report and Congress's 16 month-long investigation, Republicans have no excuse to keep wasting time and taxpayer resources on politically-motivated, election-year attacks."
 
2013-07-25 01:02:07 PM

hasty ambush: Shoddy work by his Department their paper work involving ther extradition of child rapist Polanski


Yeah he really botched that thing that happened decades ago.
 
2013-07-25 01:02:41 PM
What a "disenfranchised" voter might look like:

Ohio Woman Who Voted 6 Times For Obama Convicted Of Felony Voter Fraud




patdollard.com
 
2013-07-25 01:04:05 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: kidgenius: Uranus Is Huge!: As a conservative, I'd like to offer a compromise: let us keep our new disenfranchisement laws on the books and if there is anyone who can't produce the appropriate ID we will still count their vote...

...as 3/5ths of a regular vote.

Ah....the oft-used, but widely misunderstood 3/5ths compromise....

Ah...the oft used, but never amusing literal interpretation.


Let's see here...

Though the racist right-wingers would love more than nothing for young, poor, and/or infirm votes to count for 3/5 of a real vote, it's not the same as comparing it to the real 3/5 compromise. The 3/5 compromise did not come about because of politicians trying to disenfranchise a group of voters. The North was trying to limit the power of the states that had a large amount of non-voting population in the southern states getting a greater representation in the federal government. It had nothing to do with the value of a vote of an individual.

But go ahead and keep comparing apple to oranges.
 
2013-07-25 01:04:12 PM

hasty ambush: I for one find it hard to believe that the supposedly disenfranchised groups of people who can come up with the necessary identification to get their welfare, MEDICAID, food stamps etc cannot come up withe a picture ID when they want to vote.


Have you considered there are people without ID that do not access those services?

It seems that you have a certain vision of who these groups are comprised of.
 
2013-07-25 01:04:19 PM

hasty ambush: Ohio Woman Who Voted 6 Times For Obama Convicted Of Felony Voter Fraud


yeah....can you find me that story from one of the wire services or someplace that doesn't have "The war starts here" as a tagline for the website?
 
2013-07-25 01:06:48 PM

czetie: ShadowKamui: somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?

HSBC alone puts him in the top 5 of worst AG in US history

Who was the last good one? I can't think of a decent one in my voting lifetime...

/Which is not a defense of Holder, btw


RFK?
 
2013-07-25 01:08:26 PM

hasty ambush: I for one find it hard to believe that the supposedly disenfranchised groups of people who can come up with the necessary identification to get their welfare, MEDICAID, food stamps etc cannot come up withe a picture ID when they want to vote.


I personally have no problem with a national ID required for all government service (SNAP, IRS rebates etc). The problem I always see is that the time tables on this is always so short.
If you want state (or federal) ID, pass the law to be implemented about a year after the next Presidential election.
But no. Almost every time, it is passed in late summer to be used in that fall's election. Most of these laws seem to happen during Presidential election years, for some reason.
 
2013-07-25 01:08:52 PM

HotWingConspiracy: hasty ambush: Shoddy work by his Department their paper work involving ther extradition of child rapist Polanski

Yeah he really botched that thing that happened decades ago.
.



How about in 2010:

Roman Polanski Free: Extradition Request REJECTED By Switzerland
 
2013-07-25 01:08:56 PM

d23: I suggest you read "Confidence Men" by Ron Suskind.  That book documents the fact that from the VERY first day of Obama becoming President Elect he was determined to kiss the ass of the banks.  And I mean literally the first day.  It was what his first meeting was about.


No, really, you're mad at Obama for something Bush did?
 
2013-07-25 01:11:04 PM

erveek: czetie: ShadowKamui: somedude210: Funk Brothers: Why is Holder still heading the DOJ?

because he's still a decent AG. What has he been personally responsible for that should get him sacked?

HSBC alone puts him in the top 5 of worst AG in US history

Who was the last good one? I can't think of a decent one in my voting lifetime...

/Which is not a defense of Holder, btw

RFK?


He killed Marilyn Monroe
 
2013-07-25 01:11:09 PM

hasty ambush: What a "disenfranchised" voter might look like:

Ohio Woman Who Voted 6 Times For Obama Convicted Of Felony Voter Fraud


[patdollard.com image 600x350]


You love those examples that don't support your cause at all, don't you?

I think I'm going to start a troll account and preëmpt your idiocy by posting her as an example of Republican voter fraud.

Because that's just as accurate.
 
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