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(Scientific American)   Think you're eating healthier because you *always* buy that "whole grain" bread, not that squishy white bread? You might want to sit down for this   (scientificamerican.com ) divider line
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2013-07-25 03:12:08 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Get me a bowl of tuna and some chips and I'm good.


When did you become British?
 
2013-07-25 03:12:17 PM  
If I can't see grains and seeds in it. It's not whole grain. And just sprinkling some on top doesn't count.

A really good bread I ate in Britain growing up was called Mighty White. It was white bread, but had whole grains in with the white bread. That was thirty years ago, so I don't know if they still make it, or make it the way they used to. It was relatively good for you, and tasted good for kids. It's a good place to start children.
 
2013-07-25 03:12:22 PM  

This text is now purple: Mudd's woman: I am not into that paleo diet trend, but I did try a recipe for "paleo bread" that was full on awesome.

Talk about whole grain. Not for the weak-intestined.

Hell on your teeth, though.


rocks and stones are just options.
 
2013-07-25 03:21:11 PM  
Buttknuckle:

maxheck: Tom_Slick:

Buttknuckle: Kirzania: Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard

Doesn't look like it, but I would need to go out and buy a goddamn dough hook for my POS mixer, and trays. No thanks!

Buy a cheap Bread Maker $45.00 from Wal Mart

This. I'm sure I'll catch grief for being a poser, but there's few things nicer than being able to make bread with 5 minutes of actual effort. I know how to make bread by hand. I don't want to have to do it every time.

Also, Panasonic SD-YD250

I wondered about those things. I thought they were like juicers - people buy them and never use them cause they are a pain in the ass.


YMMV, depending on how much you like bread or how often you get invited to family dinners, and most of all probably depends on how much of a natural affinity for cooking you have.

Baking bread from scratch is a pain in the ass. It's rewarding, but a pain in the ass. But if you can dump a few cups of flour, X amount of salt, sugar, yeast and water in a pan and then walk away for 4 hours and have something tasty, you start thinking...

"Hey... That roaster chicken I saw at the supermarket would make really good sammiches, especially with rosemary gravy."

"Roast beef, cheese and egg bread..."

"French toast."
Stuff like that sorts to enter your mind.
 
2013-07-25 03:27:25 PM  

Buttknuckle: I wondered about those things. I thought they were like juicers - people buy them and never use them cause they are a pain in the ass.


I use mine twice a week, it is no harder to use and clean than a blender, fill it up and press a couple of buttons, hand wash the pan when it cools.  It does require planning as it takes 4 hours to cook the bread (the quick cycle bread tastes like crap) and it makes small loaves.  So if you don't eat a ton of bread, and you can plan ahead for French Toast Sunday  you can have fresh bread with no preservatives or unpronounceable ingredients.  It is not as easy as picking up a loaf while you buying the rest of your groceries, but it is no harder than cooking a meal that does not come out of a box.
 
2013-07-25 03:36:49 PM  
The 4 keys to health

4) Get off your butt and exercise or play a sport;
3) Eat things in moderation;
2) Lower stress levels;
1) Stop listening to what scientist and doctors say about health and diet because they have no clue and will more than likely reverse their current claim within the next two years...
 
2013-07-25 03:37:23 PM  
i honestly maybe eat one slice of bread a week, if that
 
2013-07-25 03:38:45 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Rye bread, biatches.  With seeds.


Me too, but if I can have pastrami on it instead of biatches, that'd be great.
 
2013-07-25 03:38:52 PM  
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Mmmm, bread. yummy

Mmmm, penicillin. Lifesavey  Allergic reaction-inducing.

/FTFM.

//Anaphylactic?  Well...I'm not about to find out.
 
2013-07-25 03:40:42 PM  

AdamK: i honestly maybe eat one slice of bread a week, if that


Well I hope you also have a glass of water every few days, Ms. Carpenter.
 
2013-07-25 03:44:48 PM  
But, I buy Double Fiber bread.  That has to be somewhat good for me, right?

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2013-07-25 03:50:08 PM  
My current guilty bready pleasure:

Get a loaf / log whatever they call it of breakfast sausage, break maybe 1/3 of it it up and brown it on high heat in a saucepan. Add lots of crushed red pepper and cracked black pepper, because this must be spicy.

Start some thick slabs of eggy bread toasting.

While that is sizzling, pour a few ounces of whole milk in a small glass, put a heaping spoonful of flour in it, pour some more milk on top of it. Put your hand over the top of the glass and shake the heck out of it.

Pour the rue over the sausage and stir-stir-stir.

The rue will eventually set. Now you pour the sausage gravy over the toast slabs.

Enjoy your breakfasty heart-attack orgasm.
 
2013-07-25 04:08:23 PM  
I've thought about making my own bread, but I've had real, homemade bread before, and I can't keep my hands off the stuff. My wife figured out homemade beer bread. FOOD. OF. THE. GODS.
 
2013-07-25 04:24:16 PM  
verbaltoxin:

I've thought about making my own bread, but I've had real, homemade bread before, and I can't keep my hands off the stuff. My wife figured out homemade beer bread. FOOD. OF. THE. GODS.

So basically, one year after verbaltoxin gets a bread machine, we're going to be reading a Fark headline as to how paramedics had to bring in a crane after you finally expired in carbohydrate bliss?
 
2013-07-25 04:45:46 PM  

maxheck: Tom_Slick:

Buttknuckle: Kirzania: Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard

Doesn't look like it, but I would need to go out and buy a goddamn dough hook for my POS mixer, and trays. No thanks!

Buy a cheap Bread Maker $45.00 from Wal Mart

This. I'm sure I'll catch grief for being a poser, but there's few things nicer than being able to make bread with 5 minutes of actual effort. I know how to make bread by hand. I don't want to have to do it every time.

Also, Panasonic SD-YD250


This.

My Oster CKSTBRTW20  has a 58 minute express bake, makes jams, has dough functions. I use it for all those things.
 
2013-07-25 05:04:48 PM  

vudukungfu: maxheck: I got your colon blow right here:

1-3/4 cups whole wheat flour
2 cups all purpose flour
2 500 mg. vitamin C tablets, crushed
2 Tbsp soy flour
2 Tbsp cornmeal
2 Tbsp cracked wheat cereal or bulgur wheat
1 Tbsp oatmeal
1 Tbsp flax seeds
2 tsp salt
2 Tbsp dry milk
2-1/2 Tbsp butter
2 Tbsp molasses
1-3/4 cups water
1-1/2 tsp active dry yeast

anad

WhiskeySticks: Head_Shot: As a former baker, I can tell you it's really not that hard to make your own awesome bread from scratch. A big KitchenAid mixer helps obviously, but even by hand, you can make enough bread for a month (or more) with about 45 minutes of actual work. The process take half a day - but it's mainly waiting around for the dough to proof, then baking. For shiats-n-giggles, add whole grain ingredients like oats, sunflower seeds, millet seeds, etc.

Whoops, I probably just gave away where I used to work to those who are baking savvy. :-)

Subway?


DAMMIT!!!! SHAKES FIST!!!!

/no
 
2013-07-25 05:44:04 PM  

Night Night Cream Puff: Yanks_RSJ: Everything you can eat is simultaneously healthy and going to kill you.

But this will be a nice article to show my GF, who insists on buying the shiatty wheat bread that is no better for you than white bread but a million times worse when it comes to making grilled cheese sandwiches.

There's your problem. If it's crappy bread it won't make good grilled cheese regardless if it's whole wheat or white. I have a loaf in the fridge right now of something or other that's tasty and makes great grilled cheese sandwiches. Can't remember the brand off the top of my head.


Yeah - I stopped eating white bread if I have a choice a couple of decades ago and I much prefer whole wheat bread now.  So maybe it's not as healthy, but the label does say it has plenty of fiber.

A couple of months ago I noticed a different brand i the store was cheaper so I bought a loaf.  Not only did it not taste as good, it got moldy real fast and I ended up throwing most of it away so it wasn't a good deal after all.
 
2013-07-25 06:13:04 PM  

LandOfChocolate: Looking forward to the rest of the thread where the cheeto brigade uses this to dismiss all healthy, natural, organic foods.


Oh yes, the Land Of Chocolate calling out the Cheeto Brigade in a health food thread.  That's rich!
 
2013-07-25 06:22:05 PM  
This is why I hate the American food industry... They're basically allowed to label foods with insanely vague and often extremely misleading labels ("organic" anyone?) compared to what they actually are. "Whole wheat" doesn't necessarily mean it's whole wheat, you have to look for other titles like "100% whole wheat" and whatnot. It's also insanely ridiculous in the meat department too, things like "organic" (as previously mentioned) and "mutton" could mean absolutely dick as they're not something the FDA regulates or could mean a whole swath of different things. For example, "mutton" in other countries like Australia refers to at least 2 year old lamb, but here in the U.S. it's rarely ever used. That "lamb" you bought (that's younger than 2 years in Australia FYI) at Fred Meyers could very well be somewhere north of 3 years old because to the FDA lamb is lamb...

/"london broil" is another pet peeve
//it's a freaking method of cooking flank steak, not a cut of meat
 
2013-07-25 06:31:10 PM  

Iczer: This is why I hate the American food industry... They're basically allowed to label foods with insanely vague and often extremely misleading labels ("organic" anyone?) compared to what they actually are. "Whole wheat" doesn't necessarily mean it's whole wheat,


This is what "whole wheat" actually looks like. If what you're eating doesn't look like this, it isn't whole wheat.

www.northernbrewer.com
 
2013-07-25 06:53:35 PM  

gfid: Night Night Cream Puff: Yanks_RSJ: Everything you can eat is simultaneously healthy and going to kill you.

But this will be a nice article to show my GF, who insists on buying the shiatty wheat bread that is no better for you than white bread but a million times worse when it comes to making grilled cheese sandwiches.

There's your problem. If it's crappy bread it won't make good grilled cheese regardless if it's whole wheat or white. I have a loaf in the fridge right now of something or other that's tasty and makes great grilled cheese sandwiches. Can't remember the brand off the top of my head.

Yeah - I stopped eating white bread if I have a choice a couple of decades ago and I much prefer whole wheat bread now.  So maybe it's not as healthy, but the label does say it has plenty of fiber.

A couple of months ago I noticed a different brand i the store was cheaper so I bought a loaf.  Not only did it not taste as good, it got moldy real fast and I ended up throwing most of it away so it wasn't a good deal after all.


But the question REALLY is


...how is your poop?
 
2013-07-25 08:33:23 PM  
FloydA:

My sister came over tonight, and we're shooting the breeze, and she reminded me that the "Colon Blow" sketch was based on an actual ad campaign some presumably nutritious cereal was running at the time against "Total" cereal.

"You'd have to eat four whole bowls of Total to equal the nutrition of... Cereal I can't remember. That ad campaign obviously didn't do well.

What I DO remember...

Somehow "You'd have to eat four whole bowls of Toad Holes" became a meme in my odd family.
 
2013-07-25 10:45:20 PM  

Coconut Meat: 1) Stop listening to what scientist and doctors say about health and diet because they have no clue and will more than likely reverse their current claim within the next two years...


Now that you've shown yourself to be an idiot, I'm thinking that I should cram my face full of everything I can find while moving as little as possible and worrying about everything.
 
2013-07-25 11:23:32 PM  

maxheck: FloydA:

My sister came over tonight, and we're shooting the breeze, and she reminded me that the "Colon Blow" sketch was based on an actual ad campaign some presumably nutritious cereal was running at the time against "Total" cereal.

"You'd have to eat four whole bowls of Total to equal the nutrition of... Cereal I can't remember. That ad campaign obviously didn't do well.

What I DO remember...

Somehow "You'd have to eat four whole bowls of Toad Holes" became a meme in my odd family.


Yeah, I remember those commercials.  That ad campaign ran for at least 5 years.  I really think the Colon Blow sketch is what finally killed them.

1985 commercial
1986 commercial (with Sherman Helmsley)
1988 commercial
1989 commercial

Colon Blow (11/11/1989)

I like the "toad holes" meme.  That sounds like something my family would have come up with!
 
2013-07-25 11:41:08 PM  
Brioche.  That is all.
 
2013-07-25 11:48:25 PM  
Two pretty good local breads.  Moderation in all things.
Make my own sourdough.  The starter is 30 years old and going strong.
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Mr. Leadbetter is a 4th generation baker and it was a blessed day when he moved to San Francisco.
 
2013-07-26 01:33:20 AM  

penthesilea: But, I buy Double Fiber bread.  That has to be somewhat good for me, right?

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Two slices everyday. Good stuff and generally $2.50-3.25 a loaf around my parts. Buy two and keep one in the freezer.
 
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