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(Scientific American)   Think you're eating healthier because you *always* buy that "whole grain" bread, not that squishy white bread? You might want to sit down for this   (scientificamerican.com) divider line 177
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2013-07-25 12:34:03 PM
Health-conscious zombies only eat whole brain bread.
 
2013-07-25 12:35:24 PM

HailRobonia: Health-conscious zombies only eat whole hole brain bread.

 
2013-07-25 12:36:19 PM
what about bran muffins... those are still perfectly awesomely health items to eat right?


RIGHT?!?!?!?!
 
2013-07-25 12:36:59 PM
I only eat potato bread
 
2013-07-25 12:37:37 PM
Oh fark it
I'm tired of every damn thing which is supposed to be good being bad and vicey versy.
As of today I'm drinking more eating more and to hell with every one of these gotdamn studies.
 
2013-07-25 12:38:30 PM
Looking forward to the rest of the thread where the cheeto brigade uses this to dismiss all healthy, natural, organic foods.
 
2013-07-25 12:39:07 PM
Everything you can eat is simultaneously healthy and going to kill you.

But this will be a nice article to show my GF, who insists on buying the shiatty wheat bread that is no better for you than white bread but a million times worse when it comes to making grilled cheese sandwiches.
 
2013-07-25 12:39:30 PM
Everything in moderation, and then you die. The end.
 
2013-07-25 12:39:31 PM

trailerpimp: Oh fark it
I'm tired of every damn thing which is supposed to be good being bad and vicey versy.
As of today I'm drinking more eating more and to hell with every one of these gotdamn studies.


I felt the same after I heard that fish oil doesn't actually do anything but raise your risk of fatal cancers.
 
2013-07-25 12:39:56 PM
"not always healthful"?

wtf am I reading?
 
2013-07-25 12:41:02 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: trailerpimp: Oh fark it
I'm tired of every damn thing which is supposed to be good being bad and vicey versy.
As of today I'm drinking more eating more and to hell with every one of these gotdamn studies.

I felt the same after I heard that fish oil doesn't actually do anything but raise your risk of fatal cancers.


But snake oil's still good, right?
 
2013-07-25 12:41:13 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: trailerpimp: Oh fark it
I'm tired of every damn thing which is supposed to be good being bad and vicey versy.
As of today I'm drinking more eating more and to hell with every one of these gotdamn studies.

I felt the same after I heard that fish oil doesn't actually do anything but raise your risk of fatal cancers.


It also keeps your haddock from squeaking.
 
2013-07-25 12:41:14 PM
You have to read the nutrition label to know what's in it? Gosh, good thing I sat down for that news.
 
2013-07-25 12:41:21 PM
And this is why my plan of only eating deep fried foods continues to look better and better.


Now if someone could dial 911 and send them to my location, that would be great.
 
2013-07-25 12:41:25 PM
No, I think I'm eating healthier because I eat whole chickens.  Whole, Live, free-range chickens.
 
2013-07-25 12:41:51 PM
I think we have a FOX in the henhouse...........

FTFA:  But in a definition created in 1999 by the American Association of Cereal Chemists (AACC) International,


WTF is this "re-defining" shiat?

It does nothing but muddy the waters........ which is all these companies want..............
 
2013-07-25 12:42:37 PM

Jument: Everything in moderation, and then you die. The end.


I recommend taking death in moderation as well.
 
2013-07-25 12:42:49 PM
Warning should be about FDA.  It's a political group and is not to be trusted.
 
2013-07-25 12:43:13 PM

trailerpimp: I'm tired of every damn thing which is supposed to be good being bad and vicey versy.


The article said nothing to contradict the health benefits of whole grains, though it tried mightily.  The real issue is fraud.  The term "whole grain" has been legally redefined by industry shills so that it's a laughing mockery of what it really is.  And this is nothing new.

There are few, if any, industries out there that have more contempt for their customers than Big Agri.
 
2013-07-25 12:43:35 PM

LandOfChocolate: Looking forward to the rest of the thread where the cheeto brigade uses this to dismiss all healthy, natural, organic foods.


Remember;

A winner never cheetos and cheetos never win.
 
2013-07-25 12:43:41 PM
This is why you actually look at the nutrition information to look at the amount of dietary fiber in the bread that you're buying.  It varies widely, but you can get anywhere from just 2mg per serving to 6mg per serving on products that are otherwise just labeled as "whole wheat".
 
2013-07-25 12:44:10 PM

LandOfChocolate: the cheeto brigade


I like that and will try to incorporate that into daily conversation as much as possible.
 
2013-07-25 12:44:15 PM
What if I don't eat the extra fiber whole wheat for the supposed nutritional benefits? What if I just enjoy the poops that I must imagine god himself is slightly envious of?

Am I still ok with those?
 
2013-07-25 12:44:16 PM
I really like whole wheat potato bread for sandwhiches...
 
2013-07-25 12:44:43 PM
You can have my bread when you pry it from my cold, crumb covered hands.

I bake it in the winter, but when when it's super hot out, it's not worth heating the entire house up for a load of fresh bread, and DAMMIT now I want to make bread tonight, and it's supposed to be like 95 today.
 
2013-07-25 12:44:44 PM
Why the f*ck does our government allow this blatant and misleading advertisement?  I mean, seriously, this is just one example of many.  Advertising seems to be a game of dishonesty and a lot of it should be considered criminal.
 
2013-07-25 12:45:14 PM
Turns out if you eat crappy bread made of mostly non-food ingredients, it doesn't matter whether it's white or whole wheat, it's still slowly killing you.

Who knew??
 
2013-07-25 12:47:12 PM

meat0918


I bake it in the winter


Interesting - I think most people bake it in the oven.
 
2013-07-25 12:47:17 PM
"endosperm"

...Is that what we've been eating?
 
2013-07-25 12:47:39 PM
Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard
 
2013-07-25 12:47:56 PM
Lobbyists are the threat to your health.

Anyone that calls a mix of separated parts of different grains "whole grain" is either crazy or has large sums of cash paid to him.

Quarterly profits are more important than the health of Americans. Never ever forget that.
 
2013-07-25 12:48:39 PM
Buttknuckle

Why the f*ck does our government allow this blatant and misleading advertisement? I mean, seriously, this is just one example of many. Advertising seems to be a game of dishonesty and a lot of it should be considered criminal.

It has been awhile since our government had a single thing to do with honesty.
 
2013-07-25 12:49:35 PM
It's still OK to give my baby fruit juice, right? Good ol' healthy apple juice!
 
2013-07-25 12:49:55 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Everything you can eat is simultaneously healthy and going to kill you.

But this will be a nice article to show my GF, who insists on buying the shiatty wheat bread that is no better for you than white bread but a million times worse when it comes to making grilled cheese sandwiches.


An interesting compromise my family has reached is buying oatmeal bread. It is just as delicious as white bread and great for grilled cheese. At the same time it satisfies the health nuts who insist on whole grain. Is it actually healthier? I have no idea and could care less. As long as you get plenty of exercise and eat some fruit every day for digestion I think you should be fine.
 
2013-07-25 12:50:20 PM

meat0918: You can have my bread when you pry it from my cold, crumb covered hands.

I bake it in the winter, but when when it's super hot out, it's not worth heating the entire house up for a load of fresh bread, and DAMMIT now I want to make bread tonight, and it's supposed to be like 95 today.


Get a used stove/oven where the oven still works and put it the fark outside.   Geez.
 
2013-07-25 12:50:40 PM
There's no such thing as healthy foods, only healthy quantities.

// hikes up small mountains for fun

// after a hike, don't stand between my provisions and I

// Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?
fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net
 
2013-07-25 12:50:47 PM
In other words: health is about long-term moderation and balance, and not about finding some magic-bullet flavor of the month ingredient for you to OD on.
 
2013-07-25 12:50:48 PM
'Healthful'? Is that their bestest English?
 
2013-07-25 12:50:51 PM
Phhhhht like I'm going to put pastrami, corned beef, and horseradish mustard on white or wheat bread....


/Rye bread all the way
//Okay fine fine... sometimes pumpernickel
///*sigh* we can let in english muffin also
 
2013-07-25 12:50:51 PM
So, in other words, don't buy garbage food from huge conglomerates. Got it.
 
2013-07-25 12:51:02 PM

sharpen a stick at both ends: "endosperm"

...Is that what we've been eating?


Not entirely. There's rodent feces mixed in too.
 
2013-07-25 12:51:15 PM

Kirzania: Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard


Doesn't look like it, but I would need to go out and buy a goddamn dough hook for my POS mixer, and trays.  No thanks!
 
2013-07-25 12:51:31 PM

Kirzania: Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard


Make your own yogurt. Room temperature, no machines, no electricity, no heat. It's called viili or villi or vili.

Cultures for Health sells it. Not pimping.

http://www.culturesforhealth.com/viili-yogurt-starter.html

And here's their video if you don't believe me about how easy it is to make

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8ZXWB6mOWE&list=PL270FD57565A35F5F
 
2013-07-25 12:51:44 PM
ThrobblefootSpectre: "You have to read the nutrition label to know what's in it?"

Except the bit about the food industry gaming definitions, which is half the point of the article.

e.g.
The label may say whole grain. It might even have the same net fiber content as the 'actual' whole grain bread.
But if the fiber isn't *on* the grain (if it's been steamed and rolled), you still get the blood sugar spike, the insulin response and the overeating.

And then there are the preservatives...
 
2013-07-25 12:52:09 PM
I eat steamed pumpernickel and sprouted grain bread. Lots of flavour.
 
2013-07-25 12:52:40 PM

SirGunslinger: Phhhhht like I'm going to put pastrami, corned beef, and horseradish mustard on white or wheat bread....


/Rye bread all the way
//Okay fine fine... sometimes pumpernickel
///*sigh* we can let in english muffin also


Ditto
 
2013-07-25 12:52:44 PM

meat0918: You can have my bread when you pry it from my cold, crumb covered hands.

I bake it in the winter, but when when it's super hot out, it's not worth heating the entire house up for a load of fresh bread, and DAMMIT now I want to make bread tonight, and it's supposed to be like 95 today.


Damnit I want to make some of my awesome rolls, I used those things for everything and stopped making other loaves entirely.  Burgers, sandwiches, warm with melted butter, no fixins at all but just plain for breakfast...things were soooo good.  Of course, eating a ton of them and not being active made me put on a bunch of weight, so losing that now before I go back to eating the Rolls of Awesome.

4c bread flour, 1/4c sugar, 4tbs butter, 2tsp yeast, 1c milk, 1/4c water (or 1 1/4c milk), 1tsp salt.  knead or bread machine dough cycle, raise for an hour, pinch off for pan rolls or whatever style you want, raise another 1-2 hrs (oven raising trick works great, and they get huge), bake 10-15m @ 350
 
2013-07-25 12:52:46 PM
Can we all please just eat our fruits, vegetables, avocados, get good protein, get good exercise, and be strong, healthy, and happy? Please? Please?
 
2013-07-25 12:53:50 PM

WhippingBoy: It's still OK to give my baby fruit juice, right? Good ol' healthy apple juice!


Yeah, pesticide and arsenic levels aside, that stuff is so amazing at rotting teeth.
 
2013-07-25 12:54:05 PM
That hard hitting article totally blew away none of my preconceptions about whole grains. I am totally not shocked that the processed bread dyed brown is just as bad as the processed bread bleached white.
 
2013-07-25 12:54:10 PM
An individual would have to eat 10 bowls of Multi-grain Cheerios, 16 slices of whole-wheat bread, or nine cups of brown rice to get the fiber recommended for an American adult for one day.


It would take over two and a half million bowls of your oat bran cereal to equal the fiber content of one bowl of Super Colon Blow.

i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-25 12:54:19 PM
Does this mean my sourdough and bagel addiction is actually good for me?  (please, please, please....)
 
2013-07-25 12:54:33 PM
Old news.

Many brands are also loaded with HFCS. Any real health conscious person knows you need to read labels. All the marketing is for the ignorant masses. And there's a lot of mass out there.
 
2013-07-25 12:54:57 PM
Bread is probably killing you anyway.
 
2013-07-25 12:55:06 PM

Kirzania: Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard


Fail.  The issue is that the FLOUR USED is not made of the complete grain.  You would have to grind your own wheat.
 
2013-07-25 12:55:12 PM

ringersol: ThrobblefootSpectre: "You have to read the nutrition label to know what's in it?"

Except the bit about the food industry gaming definitions, which is half the point of the article.

e.g.
The label may say whole grain. It might even have the same net fiber content as the 'actual' whole grain bread.
But if the fiber isn't *on* the grain (if it's been steamed and rolled), you still get the blood sugar spike, the insulin response and the overeating.

And then there are the preservatives...


I said "nutrition label". It lists the dietary fibre content regardless of marketing terms. :)
 
2013-07-25 12:55:55 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Everything you can eat is simultaneously healthy and going to kill you.

But this will be a nice article to show my GF, who insists on buying the shiatty wheat bread that is no better for you than white bread but a million times worse when it comes to making grilled cheese sandwiches.


There's your problem. If it's crappy bread it won't make good grilled cheese regardless if it's whole wheat or white. I have a loaf in the fridge right now of something or other that's tasty and makes great grilled cheese sandwiches. Can't remember the brand off the top of my head.
 
2013-07-25 12:56:09 PM

Scaevola: In other words: health is about long-term moderation and balance, and not about finding some magic-bullet flavor of the month ingredient for you to OD on.


True, but my take-away from this article and others like them are that product terms that used to have common sense meaning have been redefined by agribusiness.  So a number of ingredients one wants to include into one's diet may not be as healthy as assumed.

Which is just one more reason to make products yourself.
 
2013-07-25 12:56:44 PM

Jument: Everything in moderation, and then you die. The end.


"Everything In Moderation (Especially Moderation)"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu7I-h5kpRU

NSFW NOFX
 
2013-07-25 12:57:09 PM

SuperChuck: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: trailerpimp: Oh fark it
I'm tired of every damn thing which is supposed to be good being bad and vicey versy.
As of today I'm drinking more eating more and to hell with every one of these gotdamn studies.

I felt the same after I heard that fish oil doesn't actually do anything but raise your risk of fatal cancers.

But snake oil's still good, right?


But who wants to oil a snake

/goes off to practice with my jugband
 
2013-07-25 12:57:17 PM
Ah HA!  I'm already sitting down!

Take that subby.
 
2013-07-25 12:58:00 PM
Is 12 grain bread good for you? I started eating that a few months ago and really like it.
 
2013-07-25 12:58:04 PM
I think whole grain bread just tastes good.  White bread is boring...unless you want a grilled cheese.  Which I don't.  Well now I sort of do...
 
2013-07-25 12:58:17 PM
FTA:

One problem with the current definition of "whole grain" is that it doesn't account for fiber-and many whole grain products on supermarket shelves contain very little. An individual would have to eat 10 bowls of Multi-grain Cheerios, 16 slices of whole-wheat bread, or nine cups of brown rice to get the fiber recommended for an American adult for one day.

Anyone else seeing the Phil Hartman "Colon Blow" sketch in their head reading that?
 
2013-07-25 12:58:33 PM

Buttknuckle: Doesn't look like it, but I would need to go out and buy a goddamn dough hook for my POS mixer, and trays. No thanks!


Oh, fine. Be that way. I don't know how you buy a mixer that doesn't come WITH a dough hook but, here. Boule recipe. No excuses now.

mike_d85: You would have to grind your own wheat.


Sure, if you wanna go Full Mormon.
 
2013-07-25 12:58:47 PM

FloydA: An individual would have to eat 10 bowls of Multi-grain Cheerios, 16 slices of whole-wheat bread, or nine cups of brown rice to get the fiber recommended for an American adult for one day.


It would take over two and a half million bowls of your oat bran cereal to equal the fiber content of one bowl of Super Colon Blow.


So basically recommended daily fiber should have us gnawing on particle board all day?
 
2013-07-25 12:58:54 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Kirzania: Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard

Make your own yogurt. Room temperature, no machines, no electricity, no heat. It's called viili or villi or vili.



Pshaw.  Farkers don't need to be told to "make their own yogurt."
 
2013-07-25 12:59:17 PM
If you've read books about processed food like  Salt, Sugar, Fat or  Pandora's Lunchbox or even  Fast Food Nation, you probably won't be surprised by this article, because it's saying that the more processed the grains are, the more adverse reactions they cause in your body (spiking insulin levels, keeping you hungrier longer, and so forth).

If you're going to eat a single sandwich for lunch every day with whole-grain bread, it doesn't really matter if you're eating the good stuff or the junk. But if you're going to eat a lot of pasta, rice, oatmeal and other grains and you're going with the whole grain variety to reduce the impact of these foods on your diet, you need to be discerning about what you buy.

For what it's worth, this stuff is pretty healthy compared to most supermarket breads:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-25 12:59:48 PM

lordargent: There's no such thing as healthy foods, only healthy quantities.

// hikes up small mountains for fun

// after a hike, don't stand between my provisions and I

// Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?
[fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net image 720x960]


Looks like a screencap from GTA V
 
2013-07-25 01:00:16 PM
Dammit... Should have refreshed... (shakes tiny fists at FloydA)
 
2013-07-25 01:01:24 PM

xoxo: Is 12 grain bread good for you? I started eating that a few months ago and really like it.


sand, gunpowder or alcohol would probably not be suitable for bread.
 
2013-07-25 01:01:35 PM
Non-sense, all the commercials I saw say people who eat whole grains "TEND" to weigh less or "COULD" lose weight.

Oh wait, they put qualifiers in there so they can wiggle out of lawsuits for outright lying?
 
2013-07-25 01:01:42 PM

dragonchild: trailerpimp: I'm tired of every damn thing which is supposed to be good being bad and vicey versy.

The article said nothing to contradict the health benefits of whole grains, though it tried mightily.  The real issue is fraud.  The term "whole grain" has been legally redefined by industry shills so that it's a laughing mockery of what it really is.  And this is nothing new.


This.
 
2013-07-25 01:01:46 PM

big pig peaches: Old news.

Many brands are also loaded with HFCS. Any real health conscious person knows you need to read labels. All the marketing is for the ignorant masses. And there's a lot of mass out there.


do you know why High Fructose Rice Syrup is supposed to be OK?

/they keep making sugar out of things that aren't sugar...
 
2013-07-25 01:02:21 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: trailerpimp: Oh fark it
I'm tired of every damn thing which is supposed to be good being bad and vicey versy.
As of today I'm drinking more eating more and to hell with every one of these gotdamn studies.

I felt the same after I heard that fish oil doesn't actually do anything but raise your risk of fatal cancers.


That's if the oil is rancid.

Also, too, if you take too many pills or too much liquid oil, there is the chance of pollutants.
 
2013-07-25 01:03:18 PM

FloydA: TheShavingofOccam123: Kirzania: Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard

Make your own yogurt. Room temperature, no machines, no electricity, no heat. It's called viili or villi or vili.


Pshaw.  Farkers don't need to be told to "make their own yogurt."


In the summer, I make my own gravy...
 
2013-07-25 01:03:26 PM
I like the 15-grain bread that has seeds in it even, but just for the taste.  Toasted it's good for sammiches.

I like white bread too, but not so much for sammiches.
 
2013-07-25 01:03:59 PM
No shiat. Whole grains are worse for you than refined by far. Only because there's less grain in it which isn't good for you in the first place. Buh.
 
2013-07-25 01:04:18 PM
I thought everyone had suddenly turned gluten intolerant and nobody ate bread anyway.
 
2013-07-25 01:04:58 PM
As an avid baker, I do all of my own anyway with good quality ingredients. The next step involves me getting a grinder for my Electolux Mixer of Awesomeness and milling my own.

/serious home baker
//and a little crazy about it
 
2013-07-25 01:05:41 PM

HailRobonia: I felt the same after I heard that fish oil


Fish oil supplements. It almost seems as if attempts to "cheat" at eating healthy by using vitamins and the like simply makes matters worse.
 
2013-07-25 01:06:03 PM

HailRobonia: Health-conscious zombies only eat whole brain bread whatever crap the advertising industry will pimp out.


FTFY.
 
2013-07-25 01:06:32 PM
i39.photobucket.com

No denyin', we're going against the grain!
 
2013-07-25 01:07:00 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Everything you can eat is simultaneously healthy and going to kill you.

But this will be a nice article to show my GF, who insists on buying the shiatty wheat bread that is no better for you than white bread but a million times worse when it comes to making grilled cheese sandwiches.


This; it's not about what you eat, it's about how much you eat.
 
2013-07-25 01:07:06 PM
As a former baker, I can tell you it's really not that hard to make your own awesome bread from scratch. A big KitchenAid mixer helps obviously, but even by hand, you can make enough bread for a month (or more) with about 45 minutes of actual work. The process take half a day - but it's mainly waiting around for the dough to proof, then baking. For shiats-n-giggles, add whole grain ingredients like oats, sunflower seeds, millet seeds, etc.

Whoops, I probably just gave away where I used to work to those who are baking savvy. :-)
 
2013-07-25 01:07:54 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: FloydA: TheShavingofOccam123: Kirzania: Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard

Make your own yogurt. Room temperature, no machines, no electricity, no heat. It's called viili or villi or vili.


Pshaw.  Farkers don't need to be told to "make their own yogurt."

In the summer, I make my own gravy...


i105.photobucket.com
You're soaking it it!
 
2013-07-25 01:09:41 PM
News Flash: bread is not healthy.  None of it.
 
2013-07-25 01:09:48 PM

Dinjiin: Scaevola: In other words: health is about long-term moderation and balance, and not about finding some magic-bullet flavor of the month ingredient for you to OD on.

True, but my take-away from this article and others like them are that product terms that used to have common sense meaning have been redefined by agribusiness.  So a number of ingredients one wants to include into one's diet may not be as healthy as assumed.

Which is just one more reason to make products yourself.


Agreed.  Agribusiness and Big Food marketing have created and maintained a sense of confusion for the average food shopper, a confusion that they then step in to "clarify".
 
2013-07-25 01:12:05 PM

Head_Shot: As a former baker, I can tell you it's really not that hard to make your own awesome bread from scratch. A big KitchenAid mixer helps obviously, but even by hand, you can make enough bread for a month (or more) with about 45 minutes of actual work. The process take half a day - but it's mainly waiting around for the dough to proof, then baking. For shiats-n-giggles, add whole grain ingredients like oats, sunflower seeds, millet seeds, etc.

Whoops, I probably just gave away where I used to work to those who are baking savvy. :-)


This.

No knead bread dough (water, salt, yeast and flour) left overnight, then shaped left to rise an hour or so then baked for 30 minutes. Not hard at all.
 
2013-07-25 01:12:51 PM
I got your colon blow right here:

1-3/4 cups whole wheat flour
2 cups all purpose flour
2 500 mg. vitamin C tablets, crushed
2 Tbsp soy flour
2 Tbsp cornmeal
2 Tbsp cracked wheat cereal or bulgur wheat
1 Tbsp oatmeal
1 Tbsp flax seeds
2 tsp salt
2 Tbsp dry milk
2-1/2 Tbsp butter
2 Tbsp molasses
1-3/4 cups water
1-1/2 tsp active dry yeast
 
2013-07-25 01:13:17 PM
Kirzania:
mike_d85: You would have to grind your own wheat.

Sure, if you wanna go Full Mormon.


I... what?

/I googled.
//what... the... fark...
 
2013-07-25 01:13:57 PM

mike_d85: big pig peaches: Old news.

Many brands are also loaded with HFCS. Any real health conscious person knows you need to read labels. All the marketing is for the ignorant masses. And there's a lot of mass out there.

do you know why High Fructose Rice Syrup is supposed to be OK?

/they keep making sugar out of things that aren't sugar...


I avoid anything with the word "syrup" unless I'm actually buying syrup which I know is sugar but it's still yummy in moderation.

My favorite pasta has 2 ingredients. One of which is water.
 
2013-07-25 01:14:24 PM
ak2.picdn.net www.fastcoexist.com
indianapublicmedia.org

Mmmm, bread. yummy
 
2013-07-25 01:16:12 PM

FloydA: An individual would have to eat 10 bowls of Multi-grain Cheerios, 16 slices of whole-wheat bread, or nine cups of brown rice to get the fiber recommended for an American adult for one day.


I read that too and laughed out loud.

What is sitting on my counter is Sara Lee 100% whole wheat bread. I mean, it's Sara Lee how healthy can it be?? Yet if the nutrition label on the back is to be believed it says that each slice contains 3g of fiber and 5 grams of protein.  That would mean that it only take twelve slices (not 16) to get 100% of the fiber for one day (38g average for men) plus it would also give me 60g of protein which is also exactly the RDA for protein. (Though I personally think the RDA for protein is too low). Since each slice is 100 calories that makes 12 slices of bread 1200 calories, which is basically the minimum amount of daily calories one needs to live.

So twelve slices of freaking Sara Lee bread will keep one alive and meet all one's daily fiber and protein needs.

In yet more words, the article is 100% bullshiat.
 
2013-07-25 01:17:46 PM

Casey Anthony: [ak2.picdn.net image 400x224] [www.fastcoexist.com image 450x278]
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Mmmm, bread. yummy


www.internetafterdark.com
/approves
 
2013-07-25 01:18:18 PM

maxheck: I got your colon blow right here:

1-3/4 cups whole wheat flour
2 cups all purpose flour
2 500 mg. vitamin C tablets, crushed
2 Tbsp soy flour
2 Tbsp cornmeal
2 Tbsp cracked wheat cereal or bulgur wheat
1 Tbsp oatmeal
1 Tbsp flax seeds
2 tsp salt
2 Tbsp dry milk
2-1/2 Tbsp butter
2 Tbsp molasses
1-3/4 cups water
1-1/2 tsp active dry yeast


anadama
 
2013-07-25 01:19:05 PM
I am not into that paleo diet trend, but I did try a recipe for "paleo bread" that was full on awesome.

Talk about whole grain. Not for the weak-intestined.
 
2013-07-25 01:20:24 PM
worlddan: So twelve slices of freaking Sara Lee bread will keep one alive and meet all one's daily fiber and protein needs.

You need a vitamin enriched bread, and some water, and you're all set to run a dungeon.
 
2013-07-25 01:20:36 PM

Casey Anthony: [ak2.picdn.net image 400x224] [www.fastcoexist.com image 450x278]
[indianapublicmedia.org image 624x416]

Mmmm, bread. yummy


Mmmm, penicillin. Lifesavey
 
2013-07-25 01:21:59 PM

lordargent: worlddan: So twelve slices of freaking Sara Lee bread will keep one alive and meet all one's daily fiber and protein needs.

You need a vitamin enriched bread, and some water, and you're all set to run a dungeon.


Will Lembas do?
 
2013-07-25 01:22:50 PM

Coming on a Bicycle: 'Healthful'? Is that their bestest English?


Well "'-ish" is a suffix meaning "approximate", so it probably is their best English.
 
2013-07-25 01:24:39 PM
Fortunately, I make my own bread every weekend with whole grains that I grind myself.

/really
//great bread for a fraction of what you'd spend for shiatty bread
 
2013-07-25 01:25:04 PM

Fano: SuperChuck: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: trailerpimp: Oh fark it
I'm tired of every damn thing which is supposed to be good being bad and vicey versy.
As of today I'm drinking more eating more and to hell with every one of these gotdamn studies.

I felt the same after I heard that fish oil doesn't actually do anything but raise your risk of fatal cancers.

But snake oil's still good, right?

But who wants to oil a snake

/goes off to practice with my jugband

 
2013-07-25 01:25:30 PM

LandOfChocolate: Looking forward to the rest of the thread where the cheeto brigade uses this to dismiss all healthy, natural, organic foods.


There is nothing healthier about organic foods.
 
2013-07-25 01:26:02 PM

You Idiots: [i39.photobucket.com image 250x226]

No denyin', we're going against the grain!


That's not Bad Religion
www.kingsroadmerch.com
 
2013-07-25 01:27:06 PM

Smeggy Smurf: I only eat potato bread


My brother. *Martins FTW*

CSB:

Was having a conversation about a year ago with my vegetarian, muscle-headed, personal trainer cousin about diet and nutrition. I was fussing at him because every cookout, he tells us all what we shouldn't eat, but his ass never tells you what you CAN eat. So the discussion moves to bread and I proudly say, "I haven't eaten white bread in farking years. All I eat is potato bread." My cousin literally jumped up from his chair, grabbe both of my shoulders and exclaimed, "THAT SHIAT IS THE WORST POSSIBLE BREAD THAT YOU CAN EAT!!! DON'T EAT BREAD AT ALL!!"

Man, did the air go out of my balloon that day. I switched to wheat but I just can't. So, I haven't purchased a loaf of bread in a couple of months. Tuna from the bowl instead of in a sandwich isn't that bad.
 
2013-07-25 01:29:14 PM

worlddan: FloydA: An individual would have to eat 10 bowls of Multi-grain Cheerios, 16 slices of whole-wheat bread, or nine cups of brown rice to get the fiber recommended for an American adult for one day.

I read that too and laughed out loud.

What is sitting on my counter is Sara Lee 100% whole wheat bread. I mean, it's Sara Lee how healthy can it be?? Yet if the nutrition label on the back is to be believed it says that each slice contains 3g of fiber and 5 grams of protein.  That would mean that it only take twelve slices (not 16) to get 100% of the fiber for one day (38g average for men) plus it would also give me 60g of protein which is also exactly the RDA for protein. (Though I personally think the RDA for protein is too low). Since each slice is 100 calories that makes 12 slices of bread 1200 calories, which is basically the minimum amount of daily calories one needs to live.

So twelve slices of freaking Sara Lee bread will keep one alive and meet all one's daily fiber and protein needs.

In yet more words, the article is 100% bullshiat.


Are you sure that's not for two slices?  Although if it's for one slice that's really good.
 
2013-07-25 01:30:07 PM
Cheeto Brigade.


A+++ jokes, would LOL again
 
2013-07-25 01:31:44 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Smeggy Smurf: I only eat potato bread

My brother. *Martins FTW*

CSB:

Was having a conversation about a year ago with my vegetarian, muscle-headed, personal trainer cousin about diet and nutrition. I was fussing at him because every cookout, he tells us all what we shouldn't eat, but his ass never tells you what you CAN eat. So the discussion moves to bread and I proudly say, "I haven't eaten white bread in farking years. All I eat is potato bread." My cousin literally jumped up from his chair, grabbe both of my shoulders and exclaimed, "THAT SHIAT IS THE WORST POSSIBLE BREAD THAT YOU CAN EAT!!! DON'T EAT BREAD AT ALL!!"

Man, did the air go out of my balloon that day. I switched to wheat but I just can't. So, I haven't purchased a loaf of bread in a couple of months. Tuna from the bowl instead of in a sandwich isn't that bad.


or, you know, tell your cousin to SHUT THE fark UP. Eat what you want DROx. My feeling is that most (healthy) people choose certain foods because their body tells them that's what kind of nutrition it needs at that time.
 
2013-07-25 01:33:57 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Smeggy Smurf: I only eat potato bread

My brother. *Martins FTW*

CSB:

Was having a conversation about a year ago with my vegetarian, muscle-headed, personal trainer cousin about diet and nutrition. I was fussing at him because every cookout, he tells us all what we shouldn't eat, but his ass never tells you what you CAN eat. So the discussion moves to bread and I proudly say, "I haven't eaten white bread in farking years. All I eat is potato bread." My cousin literally jumped up from his chair, grabbe both of my shoulders and exclaimed, "THAT SHIAT IS THE WORST POSSIBLE BREAD THAT YOU CAN EAT!!! DON'T EAT BREAD AT ALL!!"

Man, did the air go out of my balloon that day. I switched to wheat but I just can't. So, I haven't purchased a loaf of bread in a couple of months. Tuna from the bowl instead of in a sandwich isn't that bad.


I mentioned earlier, they make whole wheat potato bread and it's awesome...
 
2013-07-25 01:34:40 PM

Head_Shot: My feeling is that most (healthy) people choose certain foods because their body tells them that's what kind of nutrition it needs at that time.


I have a burrito and beer deficiency.
 
2013-07-25 01:36:03 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Smeggy Smurf: I only eat potato bread

My brother. *Martins FTW*

CSB:

Was having a conversation about a year ago with my vegetarian, muscle-headed, personal trainer cousin about diet and nutrition. I was fussing at him because every cookout, he tells us all what we shouldn't eat, but his ass never tells you what you CAN eat. So the discussion moves to bread and I proudly say, "I haven't eaten white bread in farking years. All I eat is potato bread." My cousin literally jumped up from his chair, grabbe both of my shoulders and exclaimed, "THAT SHIAT IS THE WORST POSSIBLE BREAD THAT YOU CAN EAT!!! DON'T EAT BREAD AT ALL!!"

Man, did the air go out of my balloon that day. I switched to wheat but I just can't. So, I haven't purchased a loaf of bread in a couple of months. Tuna from the bowl instead of in a sandwich isn't that bad.


A nice savory tuna salad is a great dip for tortilla chips. It's tasty with potato chips, too.

Works best with a recipe with a bit of spice to it.
 
2013-07-25 01:38:49 PM

sboyle1020: DROxINxTHExWIND: Smeggy Smurf: I only eat potato bread

My brother. *Martins FTW*

CSB:

Was having a conversation about a year ago with my vegetarian, muscle-headed, personal trainer cousin about diet and nutrition. I was fussing at him because every cookout, he tells us all what we shouldn't eat, but his ass never tells you what you CAN eat. So the discussion moves to bread and I proudly say, "I haven't eaten white bread in farking years. All I eat is potato bread." My cousin literally jumped up from his chair, grabbe both of my shoulders and exclaimed, "THAT SHIAT IS THE WORST POSSIBLE BREAD THAT YOU CAN EAT!!! DON'T EAT BREAD AT ALL!!"

Man, did the air go out of my balloon that day. I switched to wheat but I just can't. So, I haven't purchased a loaf of bread in a couple of months. Tuna from the bowl instead of in a sandwich isn't that bad.

I mentioned earlier, they make whole wheat potato bread and it's awesome...


Yeah, that was actually the first thing that I switched too. But, I couldn't make myself believe that it was actually healthy. I also needed to find out how it can be both 100% wheat and made from potatoes at the same time. The math seems sketchy.
 
2013-07-25 01:39:49 PM
Shazam999:

Are you sure that's not for two slices?  Although if it's for one slice that's really good.

http://www.calorieking.com/foods/calories-in-breads-hearty-delicious -1 00-whole-wheat-with-honey_f-ZmlkPTE1OTQxMg.html

Sara Lee makes many different kinds of breads some of the them with very similar sounding names but with very different ingredients. I get mine at Wal-mart.
 
2013-07-25 01:39:53 PM

Bonzo_1116: DROxINxTHExWIND: Smeggy Smurf: I only eat potato bread

My brother. *Martins FTW*

CSB:

Was having a conversation about a year ago with my vegetarian, muscle-headed, personal trainer cousin about diet and nutrition. I was fussing at him because every cookout, he tells us all what we shouldn't eat, but his ass never tells you what you CAN eat. So the discussion moves to bread and I proudly say, "I haven't eaten white bread in farking years. All I eat is potato bread." My cousin literally jumped up from his chair, grabbe both of my shoulders and exclaimed, "THAT SHIAT IS THE WORST POSSIBLE BREAD THAT YOU CAN EAT!!! DON'T EAT BREAD AT ALL!!"

Man, did the air go out of my balloon that day. I switched to wheat but I just can't. So, I haven't purchased a loaf of bread in a couple of months. Tuna from the bowl instead of in a sandwich isn't that bad.

A nice savory tuna salad is a great dip for tortilla chips. It's tasty with potato chips, too.

Works best with a recipe with a bit of spice to it.



Yup. That's my thing now. Get me a bowl of tuna and some chips and I'm good.
 
2013-07-25 01:44:04 PM
Basically, *this.* Next time he's a cookout put a little butter on a Martin's potato roll and toast it on the grill it a bit before a putting burger on it. See how fast your cousin shuts up... :)

I love potato bread. Just cut white flour by half and substitute Spud Buds.
 
2013-07-25 01:46:13 PM

LandOfChocolate: Looking forward to the rest of the thread where the cheeto brigade uses this to dismiss all healthy, natural, organic foods.


Having grown up eating tough, chewy, almost-black wheat bread from the local bakery (yeah, small-town + a LONG tourism tradition kept it alive through to the late 90s) I find white bread subtly distasteful.

Also, if I'm reading the article right it all boils down to, "read the farking nutrition info on the label, make sure it's actually high-fiber."

I was under the impression whole grain also had more complex carbohydrates.  But I don't know where that idea came from...
 
2013-07-25 01:49:19 PM

worlddan: Shazam999:

Are you sure that's not for two slices?  Although if it's for one slice that's really good.

http://www.calorieking.com/foods/calories-in-breads-hearty-delicious -1 00-whole-wheat-with-honey_f-ZmlkPTE1OTQxMg.html

Sara Lee makes many different kinds of breads some of the them with very similar sounding names but with very different ingredients. I get mine at Wal-mart.


Yeah that's a really good fibre amount for one slice of bread.
 
2013-07-25 01:52:15 PM

maxheck: Basically, *this.* Next time he's a cookout put a little butter on a Martin's potato roll and toast it on the grill it a bit before a putting burger on it. See how fast your cousin shuts up... :)

I love potato bread. Just cut white flour by half and substitute Spud Buds.


That sounds delicious, but naw, this dude is too far gone. If he thought he ate butter he'd probably take a suicide pill. Crazy thing is, he's always been the type who could shovel all types of shiat into his pie hole and never gain a pound. He's not a former fatty who's seen the light. He's a naturally muscled guy who got heavy into fitness because he was banging women at the gym. At some point it stopped being about the women and he started getting serious about it. Too damn serious if you ask me.
 
2013-07-25 01:55:03 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: maxheck: Basically, *this.* Next time he's a cookout put a little butter on a Martin's potato roll and toast it on the grill it a bit before a putting burger on it. See how fast your cousin shuts up... :)

I love potato bread. Just cut white flour by half and substitute Spud Buds.

That sounds delicious, but naw, this dude is too far gone. If he thought he ate butter he'd probably take a suicide pill. Crazy thing is, he's always been the type who could shovel all types of shiat into his pie hole and never gain a pound. He's not a former fatty who's seen the light. He's a naturally muscled guy who got heavy into fitness because he was banging women at the gym. At some point it stopped being about the women and he started getting serious about it. Too damn serious if you ask me.


Gee you should try to be his wingman.
 
2013-07-25 01:56:30 PM

vudukungfu: maxheck: I got your colon blow right here:

1-3/4 cups whole wheat flour
2 cups all purpose flour
2 500 mg. vitamin C tablets, crushed
2 Tbsp soy flour
2 Tbsp cornmeal
2 Tbsp cracked wheat cereal or bulgur wheat
1 Tbsp oatmeal
1 Tbsp flax seeds
2 tsp salt
2 Tbsp dry milk
2-1/2 Tbsp butter
2 Tbsp molasses
1-3/4 cups water
1-1/2 tsp active dry yeast

anadama


i105.photobucket.com
What An Adama might look like.
 
2013-07-25 01:58:28 PM

Shazam999: DROxINxTHExWIND: maxheck: Basically, *this.* Next time he's a cookout put a little butter on a Martin's potato roll and toast it on the grill it a bit before a putting burger on it. See how fast your cousin shuts up... :)

I love potato bread. Just cut white flour by half and substitute Spud Buds.

That sounds delicious, but naw, this dude is too far gone. If he thought he ate butter he'd probably take a suicide pill. Crazy thing is, he's always been the type who could shovel all types of shiat into his pie hole and never gain a pound. He's not a former fatty who's seen the light. He's a naturally muscled guy who got heavy into fitness because he was banging women at the gym. At some point it stopped being about the women and he started getting serious about it. Too damn serious if you ask me.

Gee you should try to be his wingman tell us about the times when you were his wingman.


FTFY.
 
2013-07-25 02:01:09 PM
Latest trend around my office; Folks walking around with giant water bottles...and smoothies.  Everytime I turn around they're making smoothies in the kitchen.  Dude, it's not healthy if you drink 4 of them a day.
 
2013-07-25 02:03:26 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Shazam999: DROxINxTHExWIND: maxheck: Basically, *this.* Next time he's a cookout put a little butter on a Martin's potato roll and toast it on the grill it a bit before a putting burger on it. See how fast your cousin shuts up... :)

I love potato bread. Just cut white flour by half and substitute Spud Buds.

That sounds delicious, but naw, this dude is too far gone. If he thought he ate butter he'd probably take a suicide pill. Crazy thing is, he's always been the type who could shovel all types of shiat into his pie hole and never gain a pound. He's not a former fatty who's seen the light. He's a naturally muscled guy who got heavy into fitness because he was banging women at the gym. At some point it stopped being about the women and he started getting serious about it. Too damn serious if you ask me.

Gee you should try to be his wingman tell us about the times when you were his wingman.

FTFY.


Tell us, I've always wondered if those fit chicks are really as wild in bed as the stories say.
 
2013-07-25 02:04:17 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Everything you can eat is simultaneously healthy and going to kill you.

But this will be a nice article to show my GF, who insists on buying the shiatty wheat bread that is no better for you than white bread but a million times worse when it comes to making grilled cheese sandwiches.


I agree that mass-produced wheat bread is worse at grilled cheese, but it does actually taste better than processed white bread in almost every other case.  I don't even know why people eat wonderbread.  Just lick a tub of cornstarch, you'll get as much flavor as the whole loaf.  Or compress it down to a cube the size of a 6-sided die, and eat the whole thing in a single bite.  Why not?

If I make a sandwich at home, I go for the wheat bread if it's one of those mass produced things.  It has flavor, and tastes good.

Of course, with actual bakery bread, even that sold in grocery stores, there's some actual flavor no matter what you buy, so go wild.
 
2013-07-25 02:04:44 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND:  mentioned earlier, they make whole wheat potato bread and it's awesome...

Yeah, that was actually the first thing that I switched too. But, I couldn't make myself believe that it was actually healthy. I also needed to find out how it can be both 100% wheat and made from potatoes at the same time. The math seems sketchy.


The grain is 100% of the grain (less whatever the maker can weasel out of the definition via regulatory capture) but the bread is whatever mix of grain and potato their recipe calls for.  If memory serves the potato (in general) is a good food base if your diet is very simple, it has all the vitamins and minerals (except vitamin...A? I think?) as well as more simple carbohydrates and cholesterols than you probably want.

Also most mass-produced potato bread is going to be made with over-processed and preservative-laden potato flakes, but I'm drawing these conclusions from Wikipedia and dusty memories of a discovery channel show, independent confirmation advised.

If you want healthy you know how:  eat more salad, eat more All Bran, and exercise.  We don't do it because we don't want to.
 
2013-07-25 02:06:24 PM

Head_Shot: As a former baker, I can tell you it's really not that hard to make your own awesome bread from scratch. A big KitchenAid mixer helps obviously, but even by hand, you can make enough bread for a month (or more) with about 45 minutes of actual work. The process take half a day - but it's mainly waiting around for the dough to proof, then baking. For shiats-n-giggles, add whole grain ingredients like oats, sunflower seeds, millet seeds, etc.

Whoops, I probably just gave away where I used to work to those who are baking savvy. :-)


Subway?
 
2013-07-25 02:10:41 PM
Shazam999:

Gee you should try to be his wingman tell us about the times when you were his wingman.

FTFY.

Tell us, I've always wondered if those fit chicks are really as wild in bed as the stories say.


Well, your first mistake is thinking that only fit chicks visit the gym. :-)
 
2013-07-25 02:15:54 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Shazam999:

Gee you should try to be his wingman tell us about the times when you were his wingman.

FTFY.

Tell us, I've always wondered if those fit chicks are really as wild in bed as the stories say.

Well, your first mistake is thinking that only fit chicks visit the gym. :-)


Those are the only stories I'm interested in - fit, horny bi-sexual chicks that also take it up the ass.
 
2013-07-25 02:17:03 PM
ecx.images-amazon.com

/sorry
 
2013-07-25 02:23:51 PM
Helps build strong bodies 12 ways.
 
2013-07-25 02:23:51 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND:

maxheck: Basically, *this.* Next time he's a cookout put a little butter on a Martin's potato roll and toast it on the grill it a bit before a putting burger on it. See how fast your cousin shuts up.)

I love potato bread. Just cut white flour by half and substitute Spud Buds.

That sounds delicious, but naw, this dude is too far gone. If he thought he ate butter he'd probably take a suicide pill. Crazy thing is, he's always been the type who cold shovel all types of shiat into his pie hole and never gain a pound. He's not a former fatty who's seen the light. He's a naturally muscled guy who got heavy into fitness because he was banging women at the gym. At some point it stopped being about the women and he started getting serious about it. Too damn serious if you ask me.


Yeah. there's no helping that. I'm absurdly fortunate in that I have a mesomorph's metabolism, but I take the opposite tack from your cousin. I look at it as an excuse to EAT REAL FOOD!
 
2013-07-25 02:26:07 PM
Shazam999:


DROxINxTHExWIND: Shazam999:

Gee you should try to be his wingman tell us about the times when you were his wingman.

FTFY.

Tell us, I've always wondered if those fit chicks are really as wild in bed as the stories say.

Well, your first mistake is thinking that only fit chicks visit the gym. :-)

Those are the only stories I'm interested in - fit, horny bi-sexual chicks that also take it up the ass.


You want the yoga studio. Two doors over.

/ not kidding.
 
2013-07-25 02:36:20 PM

Buttknuckle: Kirzania: Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard

Doesn't look like it, but I would need to go out and buy a goddamn dough hook for my POS mixer, and trays.  No thanks!


Buy a cheap Bread Maker $45.00 from Wal Mart

/Love mine, I make Pizza Dough, Bread, and since you can set it up to just mix and proof you can even make old fashioned hearth breads from great grandma's cook book.
 
2013-07-25 02:36:36 PM
Screw bread. I'm not one of those gluten freaks, but bread's only a caloric vehicle. I don't see any real nutrition there.
 
2013-07-25 02:36:39 PM
Well.... This is old news

My dietitian told me that since I was diabetic to avoid any bread that has 6% or more carbohydrates. White or whole grain? If the whole grain has over 6% it doesn't make a difference. It's the same as white bread at that point.

Wheat bread below 6%? It may be healthy but it can be like eating sawdust with water and yeast baked into a cake.....
Yum
 
2013-07-25 02:39:26 PM
For sandwiches I prefer whole bread because of the way it tastes.  For snacking or making garlic bread I prefer french bread.  But, more than anything else, I just like warm bread fresh out of the oven, regardless of type.
 
2013-07-25 02:43:00 PM
Tom_Slick:

Buttknuckle: Kirzania: Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard

Doesn't look like it, but I would need to go out and buy a goddamn dough hook for my POS mixer, and trays. No thanks!

Buy a cheap Bread Maker $45.00 from Wal Mart


This. I'm sure I'll catch grief for being a poser, but there's few things nicer than being able to make bread with 5 minutes of actual effort. I know how to make bread by hand. I don't want to have to do it every time.

Also, Panasonic SD-YD250
 
2013-07-25 02:45:31 PM

Tom_Slick: Buy a cheap Bread Maker $45.00 from Wal Mart


I had one for awhile. The problem is it's TOO easy. We don't need so much bread in the house. ... Of course, my excuse for buying excess blueberries, raspberries, blackberries is that I will have to use them all right away ... in scones, muffins and ice cream. (in that order)
 
2013-07-25 02:47:35 PM
Rye bread, biatches.  With seeds.
 
2013-07-25 02:48:36 PM

maxheck: This. I'm sure I'll catch grief for being a poser, but there's few things nicer than being able to make bread with 5 minutes of actual effort. I know how to make bread by hand. I don't want to have to do it every time.


I'm right there with you, I love bread, but have always thought the preservatives in commercial bread can't be healthy, it takes 2 weeks for mold to form what is it doing to your body, but I would never go through the effort to bake bread every couple of days.  A bread maker on the other hand, throw in the ingredients, set timer, go to work, come home and fresh bread just finishing the baking cycle.
 
2013-07-25 02:56:37 PM

The Evil Home Brewer: Well.... This is old news

My dietitian told me that since I was diabetic to avoid any bread that has 6% or more carbohydrates. White or whole grain? If the whole grain has over 6% it doesn't make a difference. It's the same as white bread at that point.

Wheat bread below 6%? It may be healthy but it can be like eating sawdust with water and yeast baked into a cake.....
Yum


I have pretty much been eating food for like Ezekiel bread for the past three years.  yes, it takes a little bit of time to get used to , but it's good.
Dunno about carb percentage, but it's listed as "Low Glycemic"

You may want to look into it if you haven't.

They also make a "genesis" break which I find a little more tasty than the exekiel, but dunno if it is low glycemic.

Check them out, and ask your doc if they are OK for you.

http://www.foodforlife.com/about_us/ezekiel-49
 
2013-07-25 03:02:49 PM
www.chrisroberson.net
 
2013-07-25 03:03:29 PM
oh damn, wrong window...
 
2013-07-25 03:04:40 PM

wildcardjack: Screw bread. I'm not one of those gluten freaks, but bread's only a caloric vehicle. I don't see any real nutrition there.


It is a handle for the meat and cheese.

Also, I buy the "double fiber" but only because it's the exact same price as the other loaves.
 
2013-07-25 03:05:04 PM

maxheck: Tom_Slick:

Buttknuckle: Kirzania: Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard

Doesn't look like it, but I would need to go out and buy a goddamn dough hook for my POS mixer, and trays. No thanks!

Buy a cheap Bread Maker $45.00 from Wal Mart

This. I'm sure I'll catch grief for being a poser, but there's few things nicer than being able to make bread with 5 minutes of actual effort. I know how to make bread by hand. I don't want to have to do it every time.

Also, Panasonic SD-YD250


I wondered about those things.  I thought they were like juicers - people buy them and never use them cause they are a pain in the ass.
 
2013-07-25 03:07:10 PM

SirGunslinger: Phhhhht like I'm going to put pastrami, corned beef, and horseradish mustard on white or wheat bread....


/Rye bread all the way
//Okay fine fine... sometimes pumpernickel
///*sigh* we can let in english muffin also


I was going to post almost the exact same thing.
Why bother with other breads when there is rye and pumpernickel? By pumpernickel, I assume you mean the real, german-style stuff (ie, slow baked/toasted rye bread to get the full Maillard reaction, not that dumb brownish American abomination).
Also, the word 'pumpernickel' is from the German for 'Devil farts'
 
2013-07-25 03:09:16 PM

Mudd's woman: I am not into that paleo diet trend, but I did try a recipe for "paleo bread" that was full on awesome.

Talk about whole grain. Not for the weak-intestined.


Hell on your teeth, though.
 
2013-07-25 03:10:56 PM
Sat down for it, then fell asleep.
 
2013-07-25 03:11:00 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: That sounds delicious, but naw, this dude is too far gone. If he thought he ate butter he'd probably take a suicide pill. Crazy thing is, he's always been the type who could shovel all types of shiat into his pie hole and never gain a pound. He's not a former fatty who's seen the light. He's a naturally muscled guy who got heavy into fitness because he was banging women at the gym. At some point it stopped being about the women and he started getting serious about it. Too damn serious if you ask me.


Did it ever take him more than 26 minutes?
 
2013-07-25 03:12:08 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Get me a bowl of tuna and some chips and I'm good.


When did you become British?
 
2013-07-25 03:12:17 PM
If I can't see grains and seeds in it. It's not whole grain. And just sprinkling some on top doesn't count.

A really good bread I ate in Britain growing up was called Mighty White. It was white bread, but had whole grains in with the white bread. That was thirty years ago, so I don't know if they still make it, or make it the way they used to. It was relatively good for you, and tasted good for kids. It's a good place to start children.
 
2013-07-25 03:12:22 PM

This text is now purple: Mudd's woman: I am not into that paleo diet trend, but I did try a recipe for "paleo bread" that was full on awesome.

Talk about whole grain. Not for the weak-intestined.

Hell on your teeth, though.


rocks and stones are just options.
 
2013-07-25 03:21:11 PM
Buttknuckle:

maxheck: Tom_Slick:

Buttknuckle: Kirzania: Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard

Doesn't look like it, but I would need to go out and buy a goddamn dough hook for my POS mixer, and trays. No thanks!

Buy a cheap Bread Maker $45.00 from Wal Mart

This. I'm sure I'll catch grief for being a poser, but there's few things nicer than being able to make bread with 5 minutes of actual effort. I know how to make bread by hand. I don't want to have to do it every time.

Also, Panasonic SD-YD250

I wondered about those things. I thought they were like juicers - people buy them and never use them cause they are a pain in the ass.


YMMV, depending on how much you like bread or how often you get invited to family dinners, and most of all probably depends on how much of a natural affinity for cooking you have.

Baking bread from scratch is a pain in the ass. It's rewarding, but a pain in the ass. But if you can dump a few cups of flour, X amount of salt, sugar, yeast and water in a pan and then walk away for 4 hours and have something tasty, you start thinking...

"Hey... That roaster chicken I saw at the supermarket would make really good sammiches, especially with rosemary gravy."

"Roast beef, cheese and egg bread..."

"French toast."
Stuff like that sorts to enter your mind.
 
2013-07-25 03:27:25 PM

Buttknuckle: I wondered about those things. I thought they were like juicers - people buy them and never use them cause they are a pain in the ass.


I use mine twice a week, it is no harder to use and clean than a blender, fill it up and press a couple of buttons, hand wash the pan when it cools.  It does require planning as it takes 4 hours to cook the bread (the quick cycle bread tastes like crap) and it makes small loaves.  So if you don't eat a ton of bread, and you can plan ahead for French Toast Sunday  you can have fresh bread with no preservatives or unpronounceable ingredients.  It is not as easy as picking up a loaf while you buying the rest of your groceries, but it is no harder than cooking a meal that does not come out of a box.
 
2013-07-25 03:36:49 PM
The 4 keys to health

4) Get off your butt and exercise or play a sport;
3) Eat things in moderation;
2) Lower stress levels;
1) Stop listening to what scientist and doctors say about health and diet because they have no clue and will more than likely reverse their current claim within the next two years...
 
2013-07-25 03:37:23 PM
i honestly maybe eat one slice of bread a week, if that
 
2013-07-25 03:38:45 PM

Rapmaster2000: Rye bread, biatches.  With seeds.


Me too, but if I can have pastrami on it instead of biatches, that'd be great.
 
2013-07-25 03:38:52 PM
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Mmmm, bread. yummy

Mmmm, penicillin. Lifesavey  Allergic reaction-inducing.

/FTFM.

//Anaphylactic?  Well...I'm not about to find out.
 
2013-07-25 03:40:42 PM

AdamK: i honestly maybe eat one slice of bread a week, if that


Well I hope you also have a glass of water every few days, Ms. Carpenter.
 
2013-07-25 03:44:48 PM
But, I buy Double Fiber bread.  That has to be somewhat good for me, right?

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oroweat.com
 
2013-07-25 03:50:08 PM
My current guilty bready pleasure:

Get a loaf / log whatever they call it of breakfast sausage, break maybe 1/3 of it it up and brown it on high heat in a saucepan. Add lots of crushed red pepper and cracked black pepper, because this must be spicy.

Start some thick slabs of eggy bread toasting.

While that is sizzling, pour a few ounces of whole milk in a small glass, put a heaping spoonful of flour in it, pour some more milk on top of it. Put your hand over the top of the glass and shake the heck out of it.

Pour the rue over the sausage and stir-stir-stir.

The rue will eventually set. Now you pour the sausage gravy over the toast slabs.

Enjoy your breakfasty heart-attack orgasm.
 
2013-07-25 04:08:23 PM
I've thought about making my own bread, but I've had real, homemade bread before, and I can't keep my hands off the stuff. My wife figured out homemade beer bread. FOOD. OF. THE. GODS.
 
2013-07-25 04:24:16 PM
verbaltoxin:

I've thought about making my own bread, but I've had real, homemade bread before, and I can't keep my hands off the stuff. My wife figured out homemade beer bread. FOOD. OF. THE. GODS.

So basically, one year after verbaltoxin gets a bread machine, we're going to be reading a Fark headline as to how paramedics had to bring in a crane after you finally expired in carbohydrate bliss?
 
2013-07-25 04:45:46 PM

maxheck: Tom_Slick:

Buttknuckle: Kirzania: Bake your own white bread. Problem solved.
/not THAT hard

Doesn't look like it, but I would need to go out and buy a goddamn dough hook for my POS mixer, and trays. No thanks!

Buy a cheap Bread Maker $45.00 from Wal Mart

This. I'm sure I'll catch grief for being a poser, but there's few things nicer than being able to make bread with 5 minutes of actual effort. I know how to make bread by hand. I don't want to have to do it every time.

Also, Panasonic SD-YD250


This.

My Oster CKSTBRTW20  has a 58 minute express bake, makes jams, has dough functions. I use it for all those things.
 
2013-07-25 05:04:48 PM

vudukungfu: maxheck: I got your colon blow right here:

1-3/4 cups whole wheat flour
2 cups all purpose flour
2 500 mg. vitamin C tablets, crushed
2 Tbsp soy flour
2 Tbsp cornmeal
2 Tbsp cracked wheat cereal or bulgur wheat
1 Tbsp oatmeal
1 Tbsp flax seeds
2 tsp salt
2 Tbsp dry milk
2-1/2 Tbsp butter
2 Tbsp molasses
1-3/4 cups water
1-1/2 tsp active dry yeast

anad

WhiskeySticks: Head_Shot: As a former baker, I can tell you it's really not that hard to make your own awesome bread from scratch. A big KitchenAid mixer helps obviously, but even by hand, you can make enough bread for a month (or more) with about 45 minutes of actual work. The process take half a day - but it's mainly waiting around for the dough to proof, then baking. For shiats-n-giggles, add whole grain ingredients like oats, sunflower seeds, millet seeds, etc.

Whoops, I probably just gave away where I used to work to those who are baking savvy. :-)

Subway?


DAMMIT!!!! SHAKES FIST!!!!

/no
 
2013-07-25 05:44:04 PM

Night Night Cream Puff: Yanks_RSJ: Everything you can eat is simultaneously healthy and going to kill you.

But this will be a nice article to show my GF, who insists on buying the shiatty wheat bread that is no better for you than white bread but a million times worse when it comes to making grilled cheese sandwiches.

There's your problem. If it's crappy bread it won't make good grilled cheese regardless if it's whole wheat or white. I have a loaf in the fridge right now of something or other that's tasty and makes great grilled cheese sandwiches. Can't remember the brand off the top of my head.


Yeah - I stopped eating white bread if I have a choice a couple of decades ago and I much prefer whole wheat bread now.  So maybe it's not as healthy, but the label does say it has plenty of fiber.

A couple of months ago I noticed a different brand i the store was cheaper so I bought a loaf.  Not only did it not taste as good, it got moldy real fast and I ended up throwing most of it away so it wasn't a good deal after all.
 
2013-07-25 06:13:04 PM

LandOfChocolate: Looking forward to the rest of the thread where the cheeto brigade uses this to dismiss all healthy, natural, organic foods.


Oh yes, the Land Of Chocolate calling out the Cheeto Brigade in a health food thread.  That's rich!
 
2013-07-25 06:22:05 PM
This is why I hate the American food industry... They're basically allowed to label foods with insanely vague and often extremely misleading labels ("organic" anyone?) compared to what they actually are. "Whole wheat" doesn't necessarily mean it's whole wheat, you have to look for other titles like "100% whole wheat" and whatnot. It's also insanely ridiculous in the meat department too, things like "organic" (as previously mentioned) and "mutton" could mean absolutely dick as they're not something the FDA regulates or could mean a whole swath of different things. For example, "mutton" in other countries like Australia refers to at least 2 year old lamb, but here in the U.S. it's rarely ever used. That "lamb" you bought (that's younger than 2 years in Australia FYI) at Fred Meyers could very well be somewhere north of 3 years old because to the FDA lamb is lamb...

/"london broil" is another pet peeve
//it's a freaking method of cooking flank steak, not a cut of meat
 
2013-07-25 06:31:10 PM

Iczer: This is why I hate the American food industry... They're basically allowed to label foods with insanely vague and often extremely misleading labels ("organic" anyone?) compared to what they actually are. "Whole wheat" doesn't necessarily mean it's whole wheat,


This is what "whole wheat" actually looks like. If what you're eating doesn't look like this, it isn't whole wheat.

www.northernbrewer.com
 
2013-07-25 06:53:35 PM

gfid: Night Night Cream Puff: Yanks_RSJ: Everything you can eat is simultaneously healthy and going to kill you.

But this will be a nice article to show my GF, who insists on buying the shiatty wheat bread that is no better for you than white bread but a million times worse when it comes to making grilled cheese sandwiches.

There's your problem. If it's crappy bread it won't make good grilled cheese regardless if it's whole wheat or white. I have a loaf in the fridge right now of something or other that's tasty and makes great grilled cheese sandwiches. Can't remember the brand off the top of my head.

Yeah - I stopped eating white bread if I have a choice a couple of decades ago and I much prefer whole wheat bread now.  So maybe it's not as healthy, but the label does say it has plenty of fiber.

A couple of months ago I noticed a different brand i the store was cheaper so I bought a loaf.  Not only did it not taste as good, it got moldy real fast and I ended up throwing most of it away so it wasn't a good deal after all.


But the question REALLY is


...how is your poop?
 
2013-07-25 08:33:23 PM
FloydA:

My sister came over tonight, and we're shooting the breeze, and she reminded me that the "Colon Blow" sketch was based on an actual ad campaign some presumably nutritious cereal was running at the time against "Total" cereal.

"You'd have to eat four whole bowls of Total to equal the nutrition of... Cereal I can't remember. That ad campaign obviously didn't do well.

What I DO remember...

Somehow "You'd have to eat four whole bowls of Toad Holes" became a meme in my odd family.
 
2013-07-25 10:45:20 PM

Coconut Meat: 1) Stop listening to what scientist and doctors say about health and diet because they have no clue and will more than likely reverse their current claim within the next two years...


Now that you've shown yourself to be an idiot, I'm thinking that I should cram my face full of everything I can find while moving as little as possible and worrying about everything.
 
2013-07-25 11:23:32 PM

maxheck: FloydA:

My sister came over tonight, and we're shooting the breeze, and she reminded me that the "Colon Blow" sketch was based on an actual ad campaign some presumably nutritious cereal was running at the time against "Total" cereal.

"You'd have to eat four whole bowls of Total to equal the nutrition of... Cereal I can't remember. That ad campaign obviously didn't do well.

What I DO remember...

Somehow "You'd have to eat four whole bowls of Toad Holes" became a meme in my odd family.


Yeah, I remember those commercials.  That ad campaign ran for at least 5 years.  I really think the Colon Blow sketch is what finally killed them.

1985 commercial
1986 commercial (with Sherman Helmsley)
1988 commercial
1989 commercial

Colon Blow (11/11/1989)

I like the "toad holes" meme.  That sounds like something my family would have come up with!
 
2013-07-25 11:41:08 PM
Brioche.  That is all.
 
2013-07-25 11:48:25 PM
Two pretty good local breads.  Moderation in all things.
Make my own sourdough.  The starter is 30 years old and going strong.
www.motherearthnews.com
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Mr. Leadbetter is a 4th generation baker and it was a blessed day when he moved to San Francisco.
 
2013-07-26 01:33:20 AM

penthesilea: But, I buy Double Fiber bread.  That has to be somewhat good for me, right?

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Two slices everyday. Good stuff and generally $2.50-3.25 a loaf around my parts. Buy two and keep one in the freezer.
 
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