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(C|Net)   Myth: Google creates the promotions tab in your email box to helpfully sort solicited marketing emails. Reality: Google using the promotions tab to intentionally send you their own unsolicited spam   (news.cnet.com) divider line 68
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2013-07-25 06:36:04 PM
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/no one?
//hot
 
2013-07-25 06:59:33 PM

Betep: You use G-Mail.
I think I see the problem.


I'll bite. What do you use that isn't A) shiatty (hotmail, live, yahoo, etc) B) something you set up yourself?

Because no, I'm not buying a web service so I can get my own domain and mail which then probably runs through one of the above anyway.
 
2013-07-25 07:59:57 PM

ikanreed: Flying Code Monkey: Gmail lost me some number of months ago.  They've turned the UI into too awful a mess.  This was just one good reason to never go back.

What do you do instead?  The only alternatives I've come up with are:
1. Go through the extraordinary hassle of making my server host my mail by going through the whole sendmail setup bullshiat train.
2. Go to Microsoft or Yahoo, who are as or more terrible than Google.
3. Go with some super dinky unreliable service.


Not to mention the fact any of those options are more difficult than simply going into the Settings page of gmail and configuring it however you like.  I don't like half the recent changes either on PC or mobile gmail, but as far as I can tell every one of them can be switched.
 
2013-07-25 08:04:55 PM
Promotions tab was snagging emails from potential employers. That is not cool, Google.
 
2013-07-25 08:07:44 PM

Edymnion: Uh, that is exactly what we've been using gmail for for years now.  It automatically filters things into different folders based on what it thinks is the correct answer.  Its just that before now the only folder it sorted into was marked "Spam".


Which is fine, because it seems to know what spam is (occasionally misses one, but I haven't had it mistakenly flag non-spam as spam in years). Everything else? I already have my labels set up quite nicely, nested, etc.

Make a tab for your girlfriend/wife, so when you get something from her it doesn't get lost in the clutter.  Make a tab for for ebay correspondance, or one for password notifications.  This is a seriously good thing.

Like I said, I've got a nice tree on the left with all my labels; I really don't need a new set of "labels" tacked onto everything.

Anything with a pre-defined (by me) label automatically filters into it and dodges the inbox; never to spam or trash. That way, anything the does wind up in the inbox I know is from someone I haven't encountered (email-wise) yet. And spam still gets spam-boxed.

It just seems ... redundant. Also, to date, it's been wrong more often than not. I know you can "teach" it, but I don't have the patience to do so, since I find it useless.

So I have a filter that marks everything incoming as Personal and never any of the other categories. That'll "teach" it. ;)
 
2013-07-25 08:13:25 PM

Bathia_Mapes: I got rid of the tabs immediately.


Agreed.

Attention Google: quick farking with my interface.  I liked it the way it was.

netweavr: I don't like change!


Basically.

/grouch
 
2013-07-25 08:37:56 PM

ArcadianRefugee: It just seems ... redundant.


That's what I don't get. The only things I didn't want in my Inbox I labeled already so they're filtered to their own categories. More than eight years ago. Never once failed me.

Now they do this tabs thing and right off the bat I've got shiat wandering off into other places I don't want it because they changed it up in ways I didn't ask for, and the only other "benefit" is that I get even more clutter when they move the ads from the interface and mingle them with my mail?

Fark you, Google. How about no?

/ and when they asked me why I wasn't going to use it again, I clicked the link to respond and it was dead anyway
 
2013-07-25 10:05:27 PM
Everything I saw in the Promotions folder were messages that should have been in my main folder and were NOT promotions of any sort. I deal with enough real stupidity, I do not need Google's artificial idiot making decisions.
 
2013-07-25 11:34:44 PM
Very very rarely did spam manage to sneak into my Gmail. However, in the last two months I've received five or six unsolicited emails for game services I've never signed up. Two of them were for the same company, so I accept maybe I had signed up somewhere previously and only now were they utilizing sending these messages. The rest, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt it's on some marketing list and has been sold.

However, I also received an email from a friend with some gossip about another friend's girlfriend being pregnant. The same day (literally within an hour) I started receiving "BabyCenter" related emails. I don't have kids, I don't visit parenting or baby related sites, so it's highly unlikely they got my email through my own doing. I highly suspect Google is doing some really shiatty stuff, even more so than before, and I'm already looking for an alternative.
 
2013-07-26 01:42:58 AM

xellas84: Recently had to try and deal with Google's account recovery system to get back into my youtube account.

Pain in the ass for me because my google account was created automatically off my youtube account as part of their integration.  On a date I didn't know.  And it's one of the required 'you must answer this' questions to recover your password.  Also, by God you'd better use some of their other services and know EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM, otherwise no you can't have your account back.

Also, no phone support and no easy access to email support either?  Automated only REALLY sucks for oddball situations, and the only way I found a form to send that would result in a real human seeing it was by trolling Youtube (irony ho!) for videos on it and finding a link to an old form that way.  One that isn't available through their support page directly.  On top of that, the agent wouldn't respond to emails, and for some godawful reason Google's mail server is rejecting receiving emails from my Yahoo account, which is the one my Youtube is tied to for recovery, so I couldn't email them.

Honestly, 10 minutes on the phone would have worked, but it ended up resulting in about 3 days of mess because the damned agent didn't answer for over 24 hours between emails on the subject.  I can understand several hours of delay, I'm sure they're busy, but for fark's sake it shouldn't be 24 hours before you get back to me after you send me your first email!

I laughed my ASS off afterwards when they sent me a 'how did we do' survey.


You should ask for your money back.
 
2013-07-26 03:17:11 AM

TheHumanCannonball: Very very rarely did spam manage to sneak into my Gmail. However, in the last two months I've received five or six unsolicited emails for game services I've never signed up. Two of them were for the same company, so I accept maybe I had signed up somewhere previously and only now were they utilizing sending these messages. The rest, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt it's on some marketing list and has been sold.

However, I also received an email from a friend with some gossip about another friend's girlfriend being pregnant. The same day (literally within an hour) I started receiving "BabyCenter" related emails. I don't have kids, I don't visit parenting or baby related sites, so it's highly unlikely they got my email through my own doing. I highly suspect Google is doing some really shiatty stuff, even more so than before, and I'm already looking for an alternative.


Maybe your friend's girlfriend has spyware that saw her send you an email with baby related keywords in it then added you to a spam list.
 
2013-07-26 03:20:46 AM

Lars The Canadian Viking: TheHumanCannonball: Very very rarely did spam manage to sneak into my Gmail. However, in the last two months I've received five or six unsolicited emails for game services I've never signed up. Two of them were for the same company, so I accept maybe I had signed up somewhere previously and only now were they utilizing sending these messages. The rest, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt it's on some marketing list and has been sold.

However, I also received an email from a friend with some gossip about another friend's girlfriend being pregnant. The same day (literally within an hour) I started receiving "BabyCenter" related emails. I don't have kids, I don't visit parenting or baby related sites, so it's highly unlikely they got my email through my own doing. I highly suspect Google is doing some really shiatty stuff, even more so than before, and I'm already looking for an alternative.

Maybe your friend's girlfriend has spyware that saw her send you an email with baby related keywords in it then added you to a spam list.


Maybe his girlfriend signed him up for it to test the waters.
 
2013-07-26 04:52:00 AM
darkman2000:I'll bite. What do you use that isn't A) shiatty (hotmail, live, yahoo, etc) B) something you set up yourself?

Hushmail
 
2013-07-26 11:14:05 AM
Gmail user here, haven't received anything other than my normal promotional e-mails from places I actually want to get promotional e-mails from either before or after the tab change-over.

Something tells me I'm doing something right that others are definitely doing wrong....
 
2013-07-26 11:42:12 AM
Tabs were just for people who refused to take advantage of labels... so they labeled it for you. Turned that crap off right away.
 
2013-07-26 11:43:13 AM

Bondith: Bathia_Mapes: I got rid of the tabs immediately.

Agreed.

Attention Google: quick farking with my interface.  I liked it the way it was.

netweavr: I don't like change!

Basically.

/grouch


I only want change when *I* want it... like when I went to gmail in the first place because it was exactly what I wanted.
 
2013-07-26 01:11:21 PM

Qaiwolf: Bondith: Bathia_Mapes: I got rid of the tabs immediately.

Agreed.

Attention Google: quick farking with my interface.  I liked it the way it was.

netweavr: I don't like change!

Basically.

/grouch

I only want change when *I* want it... like when I went to gmail in the first place because it was exactly what I wanted.


Yeah, that sounds about right.  If something annoys me, I'll change it to not annoy me, but if I have everything the way I like it, don't fark with it.
 
2013-07-26 08:14:35 PM

MrEricSir: Thankfully, most of Gmail's stupidest features still aren't exposed in IMAP.


Nor its Jackson-Pollock-inspired arrangement of user interface icons.
 
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