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(NBC News)   Tulsa: Look, we know we've named pretty much every landmark in town after a KKK leader who helped incite the 1921 race riots that killed over 300 people. But, that's ancient history, man. Who cares if we name the main road after him, too?   (usnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 19
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2013-07-25 12:11:32 PM
4 votes:
I think the Tulsa Race Riots are badly misnamed in terms of modern word usage.
They were mob actions of the dominant ethnicity (white) against a minority to "keep them in their place" or drive them out and were more akin to pogroms or ethnic cleaning. In the US there were many instances of driving blacks out to create whites only towns or Sundown Towns. I guess when blacks fight back it does technically become a riot.

The more modern notion of race riot is when a minority is outraged at some perceived injustice and starts rioting and the government (not majority mobs) acts against the rioters. Most all of the post 1940 "race riots" in the US were of this nature.

They were more akin to a Pogrom or e
2013-07-25 11:52:21 AM
2 votes:
Race this .. Race that.
Terrorists are under your bed.
Marijuana is bad.
            vs.
TSA
IRS
NSA

OH LOOK!! A ROYAL BABY!!!
2013-07-25 11:33:13 AM
2 votes:
Stay classy, Tulsa.

The amusing thing is, people from Tulsa (some of them, anyway) consider themselves more sophisticated and worldly than the white trash down in OKC (the capital). They seem to think this matters to anybody. It doesn't. Tulsa is still in Oklahoma. With all that that implies.
2013-07-25 10:14:10 AM
2 votes:
The council has asked business owners in the new Brady Arts District about the name, which is widely used in promotional marketing. The owners opposed any name change, concluding that it's better to be reminded of the city's checkered past in order to create a better world.

Well shiat, if you put it like that, welcome to the new Adolf Hitler barbecue grill store.
2013-07-25 05:22:43 PM
1 votes:
/Be white
//Don't be non-white
2013-07-25 02:03:22 PM
1 votes:

ginandbacon: It always cracks me up when the bring up Byrd. He was lauded for his work by the NAACP and Obama worshiped him when he was in the Senate. The guy deserves to be honored.


So grand wizards of the kkk amuse you? Nice

/Its ok when our team does it, this is how it works
2013-07-25 01:55:14 PM
1 votes:

Too_many_Brians: bhcompy: Andrew Jackson is on our national currency. I think they can manage

That's a good point. Why can't we get that evil bastard off our cash?  Maybe replace him with Roosevelt (either one) or Adams?


Sherman.
2013-07-25 01:30:39 PM
1 votes:

Fireproof: maxx2112: Problem?

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/  List of places named after Robert Byrd

Yeah, but Byrd spent the rest of his life apologizing for being in the KKK and actually did a lot for black people to make up for it.

Brady, on the other hand, stayed in it his entire life and was never sorry as far as we know.


It always cracks me up when the bring up Byrd. He was lauded for his work by the NAACP and Obama worshiped him when he was in the Senate. The guy deserves to be honored. 

Brady was an unrepentant scumbag until his last breath. 300 black citizens of one of the most vibrant communities in the country were murdered by vicious racist mobs. The participants and instigators deserve infamy not to have streets named after them.
2013-07-25 01:24:49 PM
1 votes:

lelio: I like in the article there's a complaint that changing the Brady Arts District name will cause confusion. Yeah for complete imbeciles.


This. A local would have to be completely out to lunch to miss them changing the name, and a non-local wouldn't even know there was even a name change unless they used an outdated website or got directions from a local who mistakenly called it the old name.

/Back in NC, we swapped the names of Highway 136 and Highway 3, and we were promised mass confusion, dogs and cats living together
//Never heard about a single instance of confusion, and that was back in the days of paper maps, which were only updated once a year
///Yes, it was done for Dale Earnhardt
2013-07-25 01:05:05 PM
1 votes:

Diogenes: show me: The council has asked business owners in the new Brady Arts District about the name, which is widely used in promotional marketing. The owners opposed any name change, concluding that it's better to be reminded of the city's checkered past in order to create a better world.

Well shiat, if you put it like that, welcome to the new Adolf Hitler barbecue grill store.

To be fair there's an argument to be made that we shouldn't sweep unpleasant history under the rug.  But that does sound a bit silly in this case.

My alma mater has this debate all the time.  A dorm is named after out 8th president who is quoted on a display on Ellis Island, saying:

"The danger the 'melting pot' brings to the nation is the breeding out of the higher divisions of the white race...."

They've been arguing about renaming that dorm for decades.


There is a difference between "remembering and acknowledging" and "honouring". Naming a major road after a person is pretty heavily into the latter category.
2013-07-25 12:56:14 PM
1 votes:

maxx2112: Problem?

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/  List of places named after Robert Byrd


Yeah, but Byrd spent the rest of his life apologizing for being in the KKK and actually did a lot for black people to make up for it.

Brady, on the other hand, stayed in it his entire life and was never sorry as far as we know.
2013-07-25 12:10:51 PM
1 votes:
2013-07-25 11:48:14 AM
1 votes:

PrYgMMa: they could always just do what St. Bernard Parish in Louisiana did: Re-dedicate it to some some other guy with the same last name... that way everyone is both happy and disgruntled.


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2013-07-25 11:46:22 AM
1 votes:

jtown: He opened a general store, followed by a hotel - the first with baths.

Tulsa:   Bathing Making visitors feel like they need a bath since 1890.


FTFY
2013-07-25 11:04:33 AM
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: So basically, Tulsa has produced nobody worth naming anything after since 1921.


JJ Cale?

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2013-07-25 11:04:31 AM
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: So basically, Tulsa has produced nobody worth naming anything after since 1921.


FTFY
2013-07-25 10:55:45 AM
1 votes:
So basically, Tulsa has produced nobody worth naming anything after since 1921.
2013-07-25 10:34:40 AM
1 votes:

show me: The council has asked business owners in the new Brady Arts District about the name, which is widely used in promotional marketing. The owners opposed any name change, concluding that it's better to be reminded of the city's checkered past in order to create a better world.

Well shiat, if you put it like that, welcome to the new Adolf Hitler barbecue grill store.


To be fair there's an argument to be made that we shouldn't sweep unpleasant history under the rug.  But that does sound a bit silly in this case.

My alma mater has this debate all the time.  A dorm is named after out 8th president who is quoted on a display on Ellis Island, saying:

"The danger the 'melting pot' brings to the nation is the breeding out of the higher divisions of the white race...."

They've been arguing about renaming that dorm for decades.
2013-07-25 10:05:00 AM
1 votes:
Well those comments certainly were distasteful.
 
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