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(NBC News)   Tulsa: Look, we know we've named pretty much every landmark in town after a KKK leader who helped incite the 1921 race riots that killed over 300 people. But, that's ancient history, man. Who cares if we name the main road after him, too?   (usnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 69
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2013-07-25 01:55:14 PM  

Too_many_Brians: bhcompy: Andrew Jackson is on our national currency. I think they can manage

That's a good point. Why can't we get that evil bastard off our cash?  Maybe replace him with Roosevelt (either one) or Adams?


Sherman.
 
2013-07-25 01:57:23 PM  

Latinwolf: Too_many_Brians: bhcompy: Andrew Jackson is on our national currency. I think they can manage

That's a good point. Why can't we get that evil bastard off our cash?  Maybe replace him with Roosevelt (either one) or Adams?

I guess you forgot there were also two President Adams, father and son like the Bush's.


Nope, didn't forget, just forgot how to do the adamses. and that just looks strange.
 
2013-07-25 02:03:22 PM  

ginandbacon: It always cracks me up when the bring up Byrd. He was lauded for his work by the NAACP and Obama worshiped him when he was in the Senate. The guy deserves to be honored.


So grand wizards of the kkk amuse you? Nice

/Its ok when our team does it, this is how it works
 
2013-07-25 02:05:31 PM  

Fireproof: maxx2112: Problem?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x1063]

/  List of places named after Robert Byrd

Yeah, but Byrd spent the rest of his life apologizing for being in the KKK and actually did a lot for black people to make up for it.

Brady, on the other hand, stayed in it his entire life and was never sorry as far as we know.


Brady shot himself in the head in 1925. The Brady Theater and the Brady Mansion are both on the National Register of Historic Places.

http://thislandpress.com/04/18/2012/tate-brady-battle-greenwood/?read = complete#f1">

Brady's involvement in the race riot itself states he was on guard duty, the bigger issue is his involvement in the Tulsa Outrage where Tulsa Police actually handed 17 union workers over to a KKK group headed by Brady who then whipped, tarred, and feathered them and Brady was reportedly the ring leader.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Outrage

In Tulsa, the second block north street is named after Brady which has the Brady Theater and the Brady District, which is about 8 bars, and Tulsa's biggest gay club, just south of the Cain's Ballroom.
 
2013-07-25 02:47:39 PM  

dabbletech: Sorry subby.  No proof that Brady helped incite the 1921 race riot.  Only speculation.


He was probably one of those gentle and non-confrontational KKK members that were so prevalent in 1921 Oklahoma.
 
2013-07-25 02:50:39 PM  

thehobbes: Fireproof: maxx2112: Problem?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x1063]

/  List of places named after Robert Byrd

Yeah, but Byrd spent the rest of his life apologizing for being in the KKK and actually did a lot for black people to make up for it.

Brady, on the other hand, stayed in it his entire life and was never sorry as far as we know.

Brady shot himself in the head in 1925. The Brady Theater and the Brady Mansion are both on the National Register of Historic Places.

http://thislandpress.com/04/18/2012/tate-brady-battle-greenwood/?read = complete#f1">

Brady's involvement in the race riot itself states he was on guard duty, the bigger issue is his involvement in the Tulsa Outrage where Tulsa Police actually handed 17 union workers over to a KKK group headed by Brady who then whipped, tarred, and feathered them and Brady was reportedly the ring leader.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_Outrage

In Tulsa, the second block north street is named after Brady which has the Brady Theater and the Brady District, which is about 8 bars, and Tulsa's biggest gay club, just south of the Cain's Ballroom.


In related news, there is more than one gay club in the Oklahoma city of Tulsa, and you just happen to know where the biggest one is.

/nttawwt
 
2013-07-25 03:18:23 PM  

Gonz: Too_many_Brians: bhcompy: Andrew Jackson is on our national currency. I think they can manage

That's a good point. Why can't we get that evil bastard off our cash?  Maybe replace him with Roosevelt (either one) or Adams?

Sherman.



Salmon P. Chase. Seriously.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmon_P._Chase
 
2013-07-25 03:26:44 PM  
It's not racism - it's culture.
 
2013-07-25 03:28:25 PM  

PrYgMMa: they could always just do what St. Bernard Parish in Louisiana did: Re-dedicate it to some some other guy with the same last name... that way everyone is both happy and disgruntled.


My vote's for Mathew Brady (the photographer, just to be clear because according to Wikipedia there's a vile bushranger named Matthew Brady; he'd be just as bad.)

Page for the preferred Mathew Brady:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathew_Brady
 
2013-07-25 03:48:51 PM  
thehobbes:

In Tulsa, the second block north street is named after Brady which has the Brady Theater and the Brady District, which is about 8 bars, and Tulsa's biggest gay club, just south of the Cain's Ballroom.

And Oklahoma Joe's ain't half bad right next door
 
2013-07-25 04:00:39 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: So basically, Tulsa has produced nobody worth naming anything after since 1921.



I beg your pardon...

userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2013-07-25 05:22:43 PM  
/Be white
//Don't be non-white
 
2013-07-25 05:50:05 PM  
I started laughing when I saw this on the front page of MSNBC today.  This crackpot has been biatching about this for quite awhile.  I think it's depressing that he's actually got a councilman listening to him now.

Are we really gonna go through the country and rename everything that was originally named after an alleged racist?  Then are we gonna move on to sexist and change the name of everything named after an alleged sexist (a.k.a any man born before 1940)?  Then maybe alleged homophobes?  Then people who didn't have enough education because they set bad examples by not staying in school?  But, let's be sure to wait 80 years after they've died to bring it up.  Makes it easier to "prove" when they can't say anything in their defense.

This PC crap has to stop somewhere and Tulsa is as good a place as any to bring us all back to reality.  I've got a great idea, if you don't like the name...stay out of the district and the theater.  Hell, for that matter, stay out of Tulsa.  They'll never miss you, I promise.

HotWingConspiracy: So basically, Tulsa has produced nobody worth naming anything after since 1921.


So sad you think this way.

Plenty of names to change to  but, no need to do so.
 
2013-07-25 06:20:57 PM  

Release the Hounds: I've got a great idea, if you don't like the name...stay out of the district and the theater. Hell, for that matter, stay out of Tulsa. They'll never miss you, I promise.


Yeah. That was the whole point of the Tulsa Pogroms. If blacks didn't like the attitudes and didn't want their houses burned down then they should have stayed out of Tulsa. I don't think any who were killed or driven out in 1921 were missed by the whites then is it would racist to miss them now.
 
2013-07-25 07:01:42 PM  
of course they discuss this the day 1/2 the city doesn't have power... oy. politics.
 
2013-07-25 09:06:55 PM  
You know, the US might not have problems with black poverty if there had not been people like this killing black people and destroying businesses for 100 years after slavery ended...

Also, funny thing right at the beginning of the article but, Indian land? Sounds like a lot of people got screwed in Tulsa. History of the US, I know.
 
2013-07-25 11:40:24 PM  

KJUW89: Sheesh, here in King County, WA, we changed who the county was named for without changing the actual name.

<from Wikipedia>
The county was named after William Rufus King, who was Vice-President when the Washington Territory was created. In 1986 a motion was introduced by Ron Sims (a black Democrat from Seattle), and Bruce Laing (a white Republican from suburban Renton) to change the namesake to Martin Luther King, Jr.
</Wikipedia>


Martin Luther King, Jr. Blvd. runs through a crappy part of town, just as it did when it was called Empire Way.
 
2013-07-26 01:56:47 AM  
About the GAP band- it stands for Greenwood Archer Pine. All city streets in North Tulsa. And yes in the buckle of the bible belt there is a strong gay community. Hi-lo in okc, majestic, renegades, ybr, maverick etc in Tulsa. Not gay (NTTAWWT), married hetero, medic and I have to go in and take care of the glitter overdoses, etc. Here they renamed Cincinnati st, a major N/S street, to MLK. Before that the main N/S Streets were named after cities in alpabetical order, and you could tell location based on if that city was east or west of Tulsa. Hence Cincinnati is East of Main and Cheyenne is west.TMYK.
 
2013-07-26 05:49:46 AM  

JohnCarter: Well - Tulsa does seem to have an MLK Blvd, so it's all good.  I can feel the diversity


MLK Blvd is in the Brady District, beginning at Archer, northward past Brady Street to 65th St. North.

/in Tulsa
//literally three blocks from Brady Street right now
 
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