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(Wired)   "House Fails to Repeal NSA's Dragnet Phone Surveillance Authority" probably Lupus   (wired.com) divider line 115
    More: Scary, White House, NSA, Justin Amash, dragnet, lupus, Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, legal standing, James Clapper  
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2013-07-25 09:26:40 AM  
Even if they did, the project would just move further underground.
 
2013-07-25 09:43:03 AM  
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"Say 'ITS NOT LUPUS' one more time, motherfarker!"
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 10:21:58 AM  
113th congress have passed a grand total of 13 bills.

fark this assholes.
 
2013-07-25 10:22:11 AM  
It's always Lupus... Always.
 
2013-07-25 10:23:00 AM  
List of he Farkers here: and how they voted here.... sadly, my "representative" is a coward.
 
2013-07-25 10:23:15 AM  
Well done subby
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 10:23:44 AM  

BostonEMT: List of he Farkers here: and how they voted here.... sadly, my "representative" is a coward.


my representative is an asshole.

Apparently he didn't even vote.
 
2013-07-25 10:27:52 AM  
Good to see the Republicans and the President working together to protect our country.
 
2013-07-25 10:28:14 AM  
Good thing we have elected officials to represent our interests and demands.
 
2013-07-25 10:29:14 AM  
I believe I will henceforth fail to elect anyone who hasn't got the cojones to stand up and condemn the steady erosion of presumption of innocence in our formerly democratic republic, comrades.
 
2013-07-25 10:29:19 AM  

Witty_Retort: Good to see the Republicans and the President working together to protect our country.


This vote had nothing at all to do with party lines. Republican and Democratic leadership voted against the Amash amendment, large numbers of "regulars" from both parties voted for it.

Mine (Schwartz, PA) voted against it because she wants to run for governor of PA and apparently likes establishment support.

I know I won't vote for her for governor.
 
2013-07-25 10:29:30 AM  
I'm not sure it matters.  The advent of the "secret opinion" means that the feds are going to do pretty much what they want, with or without legal permission.

I'm not happy with it either.  But there it is.
 
2013-07-25 10:29:47 AM  

d23: 113th congress have passed a grand total of 13 bills.

fark this assholes.


When you combine the complete Derp of about half the GOP caucus with the weakest, least effectual Speaker since the founding of the body, this is what you get.
 
2013-07-25 10:29:50 AM  
To hell with Obama. He's nothing more than George W. Bush plus some hand-waving support of gay rights. Serious question: can anyone name a single thing about the last five years to come from the White House that is not exactly what Bush would have done if he were still President? Don't say the health care bill; handing billions of dollars in subsidies to private corporations is very much in line with the Bush ethos.

I mean it. I'm not being rhetorical. Someone please name a single farking thing.
 
2013-07-25 10:31:59 AM  
94 Republicans and 111 Democrats voted to stop the NSA collecting every phone record on every phone call. 134 Republicans and 83 Democrats voted to let the NSA keep spying on you.

Wow, not even close to a party line vote, why is it that when these two parties come together it is only to fark everyone over.
 
2013-07-25 10:32:00 AM  
Marylands John Delaney voted against the amendment.  I wrote him asking him why my phone records are his business, but no response yet.

I knew we'd get this kind of thing when we gerrymandered ourselves a democrat.
 
2013-07-25 10:32:46 AM  
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2013-07-25 10:33:23 AM  
"Just the facts, ma'am."
 
2013-07-25 10:34:10 AM  

d23: BostonEMT: List of he Farkers here: and how they voted here.... sadly, my "representative" is a coward.

my representative is an asshole.

Apparently he didn't even vote.


My representative is Mike Rogers, who not only supports the NSA spying, but also stands to profit from it due to his wife's investments. He also claimed we needed the program because 9/11.
 
2013-07-25 10:34:39 AM  
The only good thing to be said about this is now that neither side can use it as an issue to attack the other.

A plague on both their houses.
 
2013-07-25 10:34:47 AM  

Tommy Moo: I mean it. I'm not being rhetorical. Someone please name a single farking thing.



Executive Order 13505
 
2013-07-25 10:34:56 AM  
Foghorn Leghorn: You gotta - I say, you gotta keep on your toes. Toes, that is.

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Foghorn Leghorn: You gotta - I say, you gotta keep on your toes. Toes, that is.
 
2013-07-25 10:36:08 AM  
NSA must have some good dirt on the No's.
 
2013-07-25 10:36:40 AM  
The vote was 205-217

You should've clapped harder, 'murrica.
 
2013-07-25 10:36:59 AM  

fireclown: I knew we'd get this kind of thing when we gerrymandered ourselves a democrat.


except the fact that more democrats voted against it and more republicans voted for it...
 
2013-07-25 10:38:08 AM  

Tommy Moo: To hell with Obama. He's nothing more than George W. Bush plus some hand-waving support of gay rights. Serious question: can anyone name a single thing about the last five years to come from the White House that is not exactly what Bush would have done if he were still President? Don't say the health care bill; handing billions of dollars in subsidies to private corporations is very much in line with the Bush ethos.

I mean it. I'm not being rhetorical. Someone please name a single farking thing.


1. "Beer Summit" ?
2. "Trayvon could've been my son", "I could have been Trayvon, 35 years ago"(General Race Baiting).
 
2013-07-25 10:40:42 AM  
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2013-07-25 10:40:54 AM  
www.fiftiesweb.com

Surprise, surprise, surprise!
 
2013-07-25 10:41:15 AM  

Tommy Moo: To hell with Obama. He's nothing more than George W. Bush plus some hand-waving support of gay rights. Serious question: can anyone name a single thing about the last five years to come from the White House that is not exactly what Bush would have done if he were still President? Don't say the health care bill; handing billions of dollars in subsidies to private corporations is very much in line with the Bush ethos.

I mean it. I'm not being rhetorical. Someone please name a single farking thing.


Repeal of DADT.
 
2013-07-25 10:41:58 AM  

Tommy Moo: To hell with Obama. He's nothing more than George W. Bush plus some hand-waving support of gay rights. Serious question: can anyone name a single thing about the last five years to come from the White House that is not exactly what Bush would have done if he were still President? Don't say the health care bill; handing billions of dollars in subsidies to private corporations is very much in line with the Bush ethos.

I mean it. I'm not being rhetorical. Someone please name a single farking thing.


You might ask what he didn't do.  Although I am not pleased by Obama in many respects, his predecessor started an unnecessary war, mismanaged one in Afghanistan, lost interest in OBL, and in general had a less refined/focused approach in handling power.  That sets the bar pretty low but if Romney had been elected president, with his constant gaffes about "Soviets" and remarks about China, he probably would have caused another debacle in the middle east(greater than the problems there presently) and we would be thinking "God I wish Obama was still in office."
 
2013-07-25 10:42:07 AM  

Tommy Moo: To hell with Obama. He's nothing more than George W. Bush plus some hand-waving support of gay rights. Serious question: can anyone name a single thing about the last five years to come from the White House that is not exactly what Bush would have done if he were still President? Don't say the health care bill; handing billions of dollars in subsidies to private corporations is very much in line with the Bush ethos.

I mean it. I'm not being rhetorical. Someone please name a single farking thing.


He's a farking Lightworker, that's what. He's going to transformationally unify this nation by focusing on bringing equality and jobs to the middle class. He'll improve our reputation abroad by treating other countries with respect.

It is funny as hell though when he announces suddenly, when he's been president for nearly five years, that he's pivoting to the economy.
 
2013-07-25 10:42:31 AM  

Tommy Moo: To hell with Obama. He's nothing more than George W. Bush plus some hand-waving support of gay rights. Serious question: can anyone name a single thing about the last five years to come from the White House that is not exactly what Bush would have done if he were still President? Don't say the health care bill; handing billions of dollars in subsidies to private corporations is very much in line with the Bush ethos.

I mean it. I'm not being rhetorical. Someone please name a single farking thing.


I can understand being frustrated with government but throwing up your hands and yelling "both parties are the same and nothing ever changes" is pretty stupid and unhelpful. You'd be surprised how accessible your representatives are, especially at the State and local level which tends to have a bigger effect on your day-to-day life anyway.

/when was the last time you wrote to you congressman? or went to a city council meeting? Can you even name your representatives in State government or the council members/mayor?
//I'm not judging but if you really want things to change and your voice to be heard then you need to get involved or at least start paying attention to what's happening outside the 24hr news cycle.
 
2013-07-25 10:43:46 AM  
House fails

Aaaaaand, were done here.
 
2013-07-25 10:44:45 AM  

Headso: fireclown: I knew we'd get this kind of thing when we gerrymandered ourselves a democrat.

except the fact that more democrats voted against it and more republicans voted for it...


cool your jets.  That was more of a Maryland gerrymandering thing.  And I'm willing to call this vote "bipartisian".

Break it down!
 
2013-07-25 10:45:20 AM  

Gergesa: his predecessor started an unnecessary war


Is Libya just down the memory hole or something? Sure, it's smaller in scale, but it was still an unnecessary war.
 
2013-07-25 10:47:04 AM  

d23: 113th congress have passed a grand total of 13 bills.

fark this assholes.


Quality not quantity.
 
2013-07-25 10:47:18 AM  
Gergesa: You might ask what he didn't do.  Although I am not pleased by Obama in many respects, his predecessor started an unnecessary war, mismanaged one in Afghanistan, lost interest in OBL, and in general had a less refined/focused approach in handling power.  That sets the bar pretty low but if Romney had been elected president, with his constant gaffes about "Soviets" and remarks about China, he probably would have caused another debacle in the middle east(greater than the problems there presently) and we would be thinking "God I wish Obama was still in office."

So what you're saying is we had a guy who did no combat time in the "military", yet started (at least) 2 wars squaring off against a guy who has never held a private sector job trying to get the country out of an economic depression.... seems legit...
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 10:49:45 AM  

Voiceofreason01: I can understand being frustrated with government but throwing up your hands and yelling "both parties are the same and nothing ever changes" is pretty stupid and unhelpful. You'd be surprised how accessible your representatives are, especially at the State and local level which tends to have a bigger effect on your day-to-day life anyway.


Absolute farking bullshiat.  I have regularly contacted my representative for 5 years, and each contact results in a form letter that says, to paraphrase, that he is going to continue to fellate his favorite corporate interests.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 10:50:25 AM  

Fano: d23: 113th congress have passed a grand total of 13 bills.

fark this assholes.

Quality not quantity.


Go look up the bills.  Quality NOR quantity.
 
2013-07-25 10:50:49 AM  
About four years ago I bought a sleeve for my phone which is essentially a mini Faraday cage that blocks all forms of radiation. I got it from the last legal shipment into the U.S.A.. Turns out the government, in it's zeal to protect me from myself and the terrists, made them illegal to import. I still use it. I can slip my phone into the sleeve, go do my drug/bomb/other terror stuff without being tracked, and slip it out still running when I get back home. Don't have to turn off the phone. If they want to track me, let them assign me my own personal tracker (they may already have).
 
2013-07-25 10:52:14 AM  
 
2013-07-25 10:53:41 AM  

d23: 113th congress have passed a grand total of 13 bills. fark this assholes.


Fano: Quality not quantity.


In that sense we're kind of lucky here.  The bills the House is passing are generally so odious it's sort of a blessing they've gotten around to passing so few of them.
 
2013-07-25 10:54:40 AM  

YixilTesiphon: Gergesa: his predecessor started an unnecessary war

Is Libya just down the memory hole or something? Sure, it's smaller in scale, but it was still an unnecessary war.


The two are not comparable.  First you will note Obama did cause the uprising/civil war in Libya, second an invasion and occupation by American troops did not take place.
 
2013-07-25 10:54:47 AM  

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2013-07-25 10:55:39 AM  

d23: Voiceofreason01: I can understand being frustrated with government but throwing up your hands and yelling "both parties are the same and nothing ever changes" is pretty stupid and unhelpful. You'd be surprised how accessible your representatives are, especially at the State and local level which tends to have a bigger effect on your day-to-day life anyway.

Absolute farking bullshiat.  I have regularly contacted my representative for 5 years, and each contact results in a form letter that says, to paraphrase, that he is going to continue to fellate his favorite corporate interests.


So biatch about it on some forum on the internet. That'll help.

/and be sure not to actually try because nobody ever accomplished anything by trying
 
2013-07-25 10:56:00 AM  

Gergesa: YixilTesiphon: Gergesa: his predecessor started an unnecessary war

Is Libya just down the memory hole or something? Sure, it's smaller in scale, but it was still an unnecessary war.

The two are not comparable.  First you will note Obama did cause the uprising/civil war in Libya, second an invasion and occupation by American troops did not take place.


Then there is the part where Obama didn't bother to get Congressional approval, making the war in Libya unconstitutional.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 10:56:06 AM  
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Yep. FAIL
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 10:56:45 AM  

Voiceofreason01: d23: Voiceofreason01: I can understand being frustrated with government but throwing up your hands and yelling "both parties are the same and nothing ever changes" is pretty stupid and unhelpful. You'd be surprised how accessible your representatives are, especially at the State and local level which tends to have a bigger effect on your day-to-day life anyway.

Absolute farking bullshiat.  I have regularly contacted my representative for 5 years, and each contact results in a form letter that says, to paraphrase, that he is going to continue to fellate his favorite corporate interests.

So biatch about it on some forum on the internet. That'll help.

/and be sure not to actually try because nobody ever accomplished anything by trying


Read my post.  I try all the time...
 
2013-07-25 10:57:26 AM  

Gergesa: YixilTesiphon: Gergesa: his predecessor started an unnecessary war

Is Libya just down the memory hole or something? Sure, it's smaller in scale, but it was still an unnecessary war.

The two are not comparable.  First you will note Obama did cause the uprising/civil war in Libya, second an invasion and occupation by American troops did not take place.


Of course they're different; Bush's was far, far worse. But it was an unnecessary war.

We didn't need a difference in degree from Bush, we needed somebody wholly different. That's not Obama.
 
2013-07-25 10:58:23 AM  

BostonEMT: Gergesa: You might ask what he didn't do.  Although I am not pleased by Obama in many respects, his predecessor started an unnecessary war, mismanaged one in Afghanistan, lost interest in OBL, and in general had a less refined/focused approach in handling power.  That sets the bar pretty low but if Romney had been elected president, with his constant gaffes about "Soviets" and remarks about China, he probably would have caused another debacle in the middle east(greater than the problems there presently) and we would be thinking "God I wish Obama was still in office."

So what you're saying is we had a guy who did no combat time in the "military", yet started (at least) 2 wars squaring off against a guy who has never held a private sector job trying to get the country out of an economic depression.... seems legit...


Point of order, it was Romney squaring off against Obama not Bush Jr.
 
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