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(Some Runner)   Shadowrun Returns, one of the first successes of the big Kickstarter funded games, comes out today. Magic has returned to a world of technology. Null sweat, chummers. Where's subby's cyberdeck?   (harebrained-schemes.com) divider line 147
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2013-07-25 09:13:37 AM
Pre-purchased on Steam. I was a little ticked when they aborted the release a month ago. Don't make promises you can't keep, developers.
 
2013-07-25 09:38:29 AM
Been waiting for this since the Fourth World, it seems like.

/watches countdown
 
2013-07-25 09:49:27 AM
SHADOWRUN always appealed to me more than other cyberpunk games.  Probably because the fantasy
elements tempered the relentless nihilsm of the cyberpunk genre.

/Cyberpunk is as dated as the western is these days, though.
 
2013-07-25 10:33:38 AM

DjangoStonereaver: SHADOWRUN always appealed to me more than other cyberpunk games.  Probably because the fantasy
elements tempered the relentless nihilsm of the cyberpunk genre.

/Cyberpunk is as dated as the western is these days, though.


So much this, that True Grit movie by those losers the Coen Brothers, that just sucked, amirite?
 
2013-07-25 10:58:21 AM
Wanted to play when I got off work this morning, but no, apparently not until 1 pm.  By then I'll be asleep and prepping for another 10-12 hour day.
 
2013-07-25 11:05:54 AM
Well, my evening is shot...
 
2013-07-25 11:08:26 AM
I almost, ALMOST bought it last night.

I'll wait for reviews, I've been burned lately getting new releases.
 
2013-07-25 11:10:29 AM
Looks like they are porting the old Fallout game-style to Shadowrun.  Reminiscent of the Sega Genesis game.
 
2013-07-25 11:12:09 AM
I played the pencil and paper RPG for god knows how many hours back in the day.

Now I spend those hours chasing kids off my lawn.
 
2013-07-25 11:12:57 AM
My boner is doing a ghost dance in anticipation
 
2013-07-25 11:13:38 AM

DjangoStonereaver: /Cyberpunk is as dated as the western is these days, though.


It's seen a resurgence of late, probably because it's the future Sci-Fi writers predicted  that actually turned out to be true (for a given value of "true").

Globalization, enormously powerful corporations, everyone carrying a inter-connected computer (read; smartphone) with them at all times, genetic engineering, etc.
 
2013-07-25 11:16:15 AM

Shrugging Atlas: I played the pencil and paper RPG for god knows how many hours back in the day.

Now I spend those hours chasing kids off my lawn.


Try landmines, works for me.
 
2013-07-25 11:17:13 AM

meat0918: I almost, ALMOST bought it last night.

I'll wait for reviews, I've been burned lately getting new releases.


Been close several times. I've decided to let this thread determine if it's worth my monies.
 
2013-07-25 11:17:23 AM
And tonight is Pathfinder night....hrm

*cough cough, sorry guys, can't GM tonight*

/wait, my players are farkers
//foiled again
 
2013-07-25 11:18:56 AM

Gunther: DjangoStonereaver: /Cyberpunk is as dated as the western is these days, though.

It's seen a resurgence of late, probably because it's the future Sci-Fi writers predicted  that actually turned out to be true (for a given value of "true").

Globalization, enormously powerful corporations, everyone carrying a inter-connected computer (read; smartphone) with them at all times, genetic engineering, etc.


What?  The idea of the cyberpunk world ever existing seems even sillier now than it did 30 years go.
 
2013-07-25 11:21:20 AM
NERPS!
 
2013-07-25 11:24:19 AM
So is it worth buying? I loved the old SNES game.
 
2013-07-25 11:26:01 AM
I funded this one; looking forward to collecting my reward this evening.
 
2013-07-25 11:26:17 AM

meanmutton: Gunther: DjangoStonereaver: /Cyberpunk is as dated as the western is these days, though.

It's seen a resurgence of late, probably because it's the future Sci-Fi writers predicted  that actually turned out to be true (for a given value of "true").

Globalization, enormously powerful corporations, everyone carrying a inter-connected computer (read; smartphone) with them at all times, genetic engineering, etc.

What?  The idea of the cyberpunk world ever existing seems even sillier now than it did 30 years go.


First: 'cyberpunk' was just a marketing label.  All of the 'innovations' that were touted for the fiction in the
mid 80s were really coined in the 50s & 60s.

Second:  its not so much that the world has become more cyberpunk, but rather that the ideas of the
cyberpunk ethos have moved from the province of fringe authors to the socialogical mainstream.
 
2013-07-25 11:29:08 AM

DjangoStonereaver: its not so much that the world has become more cyberpunk, but rather that the ideas of the
cyberpunk ethos have moved from the province of fringe authors to the socialogical mainstream.


There's a reason many authors known for Cyberpunk (like William Gibson) have started writing more modern-day thrillers.
 
2013-07-25 11:37:25 AM
1 & 1/2 hours till the steam release. Can't wait!

This is also supposed to be just the first batch of missions. the next storyline takes place in Berlin.
 
2013-07-25 11:40:39 AM
Some reviews are coming in, these have all been posted on the kickstarter site.  Over all looks pretty positive:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-07-25-shadowrun-returns-revie w
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/25/shadowrun-returns-review
http://www.gizorama.com/computer/pc/shadowrun-returns-review/
http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2013/07/24/review-shadowrun-returns/
http://www.techhive.com/article/2045164/review-shadowrun-returns-res pe ctfully-resurrects-a-long-dead-video-game-franchise-with-a-few-flaws.h tml
http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-b-ggUSvo4&feature=youtu.be
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/07/25/wot-i-think-shadowrun-ret ur ns/

The ones I've read seem to boil down to $18 for 12+ hours of game play for the first campaign plus community content created with the editor seems like a pretty good deal.  The only downside I see are the checkpoint system which from the reviews doesn't hurt the campaign.  Don't forget there is already a second city campaign in the works as future DLC.
 
2013-07-25 11:41:57 AM
Wasn't Shadowrun the game they tested cross-platform multiplayer on, but had to scrap it because PC players were utterly destroying the Xbox guys?
 
2013-07-25 11:42:02 AM
Well damn, I was hoping some of you folks had played it while I was at work so I could get an idea if it's any good before I go home and play tonight. Pre-ordered it on Steam a couple months ago. Loved both the SNES and Genesis versions of the games, read a couple of the books,  but never got an opportunity to do the pencil and paper game. At least when I go home for lunch I can start the download process and get it installed when I get home from work.

/will likely start out with a decker or some form of mage
 
2013-07-25 11:45:34 AM
Awesome. I preordered it.

Now go remake Syndicate.
 
2013-07-25 11:46:01 AM

Tecnomage: Some reviews are coming in, these have all been posted on the kickstarter site.  Over all looks pretty positive:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-07-25-shadowrun-returns-revie w
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/25/shadowrun-returns-review
http://www.gizorama.com/computer/pc/shadowrun-returns-review/
http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2013/07/24/review-shadowrun-returns/
http://www.techhive.com/article/2045164/review-shadowrun-returns-res pe ctfully-resurrects-a-long-dead-video-game-franchise-with-a-few-flaws.h tml
http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-b-ggUSvo4&feature=youtu.be
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/07/25/wot-i-think-shadowrun-ret ur ns/

The ones I've read seem to boil down to $18 for 12+ hours of game play for the first campaign plus community content created with the editor seems like a pretty good deal.  The only downside I see are the checkpoint system which from the reviews doesn't hurt the campaign.   Don't forget there is already a second city campaign in the works as future DLC.


Hrmmmm.

I'll wait for the complete game.
 
2013-07-25 11:47:22 AM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: Wasn't Shadowrun the game they tested cross-platform multiplayer on, but had to scrap it because PC players were utterly destroying the Xbox guys?


Yeah, that was the FPS... which basically was Shadowrun in name only.
I point that out every time someone waxes poetic on the advantages of the controller vs mouse/keyboard.

/console peasants
 
2013-07-25 11:49:18 AM

justtray: Awesome. I preordered it.

Now go remake Syndicate.


Ok.
 
2013-07-25 11:49:55 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: So is it worth buying? I loved the old SNES game.


Considering Jake Armitage from the SNES game is in this as a companion you should buy it.
 
2013-07-25 11:51:42 AM
Definitely picking it up, have been waiting for quite a long time. A little worried as they said it was more so modeled after the SNES version, which I thought was far less fun the Genesis one. Hell, I still play the Sega version via emulator every few months.
 
2013-07-25 11:52:14 AM

J. Frank Parnell: justtray: Awesome. I preordered it.

Now go remake Syndicate.

Ok.


Let us not discuss that heresy.
 
2013-07-25 11:53:58 AM

Vertdang: Well I use Mac/Linux...: Wasn't Shadowrun the game they tested cross-platform multiplayer on, but had to scrap it because PC players were utterly destroying the Xbox guys?

Yeah, that was the FPS... which basically was Shadowrun in name only.
I point that out every time someone waxes poetic on the advantages of the controller vs mouse/keyboard.

/console peasants


Exactly.  That was the big selling point of this game:  The creators bought the licenses back to do it their way.
 
2013-07-25 11:54:26 AM
i think it was discounted for the steam summer sale...  looks like this thread was started a couple days too late.

/ i didn't go for it.  while i loved the p&p and the original shadowrun for SNES, i just can't go backwards with to play a top down turn based RPG.  too spoiled with action-RPGs
 
2013-07-25 11:55:08 AM

Lamadin: Definitely picking it up, have been waiting for quite a long time. A little worried as they said it was more so modeled after the SNES version, which I thought was far less fun the Genesis one. Hell, I still play the Sega version via emulator every few months.


From what I saw it looks like the display was modeled off the SNES version, where instead of the maps being straight up and down and left and right they're diagonal. I can't for the life of me remember what the name for that was though. There were things to like in both versions though.
 
2013-07-25 11:55:49 AM
Still my second favorite Genesis game of all time.

/herzog zwi is first
 
2013-07-25 11:56:21 AM

meanmutton: Gunther: DjangoStonereaver: /Cyberpunk is as dated as the western is these days, though.

It's seen a resurgence of late, probably because it's the future Sci-Fi writers predicted  that actually turned out to be true (for a given value of "true").

Globalization, enormously powerful corporations, everyone carrying a inter-connected computer (read; smartphone) with them at all times, genetic engineering, etc.

What?  The idea of the cyberpunk world ever existing seems even sillier now than it did 30 years go.


DRM, illegality to modify devices you bought, connected world, loss of privacy... all predicted by cyberpunk novels.
 
2013-07-25 11:58:35 AM
Assuming downloads and all go fine, I'll report back at around five (central) with initial impressions.
 
2013-07-25 11:59:26 AM

deadsanta: DjangoStonereaver: SHADOWRUN always appealed to me more than other cyberpunk games.  Probably because the fantasy
elements tempered the relentless nihilsm of the cyberpunk genre.

/Cyberpunk is as dated as the western is these days, though.

So much this, that True Grit movie by those losers the Coen Brothers, that just sucked, amirite?


The original was far better. Not that the Coen version was terrible, it just wasn't as good as the original, which means it failed the "did this need to be remade" test.
 
2013-07-25 12:01:55 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: Lamadin: Definitely picking it up, have been waiting for quite a long time. A little worried as they said it was more so modeled after the SNES version, which I thought was far less fun the Genesis one. Hell, I still play the Sega version via emulator every few months.

From what I saw it looks like the display was modeled off the SNES version, where instead of the maps being straight up and down and left and right they're diagonal. I can't for the life of me remember what the name for that was though. There were things to like in both versions though.


Isometric.
 
2013-07-25 12:02:14 PM

Facetious_Speciest: Assuming downloads and all go fine, I'll report back at around five (central) with initial impressions.


Sweet, that way I'll be able to see what some folks think when I get home and wait for it to load and install.
 
2013-07-25 12:02:41 PM

darkmayo: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: So is it worth buying? I loved the old SNES game.

Considering Jake Armitage from the SNES game is in this as a companion you should buy it.


I just got a nerd boner.
 
2013-07-25 12:03:05 PM

DjangoStonereaver: SHADOWRUN always appealed to me more than other cyberpunk games.  Probably because the fantasy
elements tempered the relentless nihilsm of the cyberpunk genre.

/Cyberpunk is as dated as the western is these days, though.


I like William Gibson's ideas. it's beyond hacking the internet, or whatever it was.

also, Gibson didn't like the fantasy cyberpunk mashup that is Shadowrun. I can't completely disagree.

/i've got this game on my steam wishlist, but I have too many things unplayed in my library.
 
2013-07-25 12:03:13 PM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: Wasn't Shadowrun the game they tested cross-platform multiplayer on, but had to scrap it because PC players were utterly destroying the Xbox guys?


yep.  This comes from a "Respectable source," so take it for what you will.  I remember more detailed coverage when it came out that they had "balance issues" and had to tweak the auto-aim.  At their default levels, the AA was so strong that the PC players couldn't compete, but when they took it off completely it was a stomp the other direction.  So it ended up with some aim assist for consoles, but that's all hearsay unless I could get a working link from somewhere.
 
2013-07-25 12:05:19 PM
 
2013-07-25 12:05:43 PM

Vertdang: Well I use Mac/Linux...: Wasn't Shadowrun the game they tested cross-platform multiplayer on, but had to scrap it because PC players were utterly destroying the Xbox guys?

Yeah, that was the FPS... which basically was Shadowrun in name only.
I point that out every time someone waxes poetic on the advantages of the controller vs mouse/keyboard.

/console peasants


Quake 3 on Dreamcast also attempted that, with similar results.

Anyway, I, too, fondly remember the Genesis game (farkin' tarpits), but upon reading about this new version, I read that matrix runs wouldn't return. Is that (still) correct?
 
2013-07-25 12:06:12 PM

meanmutton: Gunther: DjangoStonereaver: /Cyberpunk is as dated as the western is these days, though.

It's seen a resurgence of late, probably because it's the future Sci-Fi writers predicted  that actually turned out to be true (for a given value of "true").

Globalization, enormously powerful corporations, everyone carrying a inter-connected computer (read; smartphone) with them at all times, genetic engineering, etc.

What?  The idea of the cyberpunk world ever existing seems even sillier now than it did 30 years go.


The trappings, sure. You aren't gonna wander down the street and run into a katana-wielding cyborg with a green mohawk. But so much of the actual core of it has come true. People are writing novels set in the present day that would have been classified as cyberpunk 25 years ago. The Social Network would have been cyberpunk if it had been filmed in 1990.
 
2013-07-25 12:06:51 PM
had no idea this had come to fruition

/goodbye rest of the week
 
2013-07-25 12:07:05 PM
Backed this on Kickstarter, can't wait to load it up tonight.

Also the Carlos Danger Name Generator seems to make some pretty good cyberpunk character names
 
2013-07-25 12:11:06 PM

t3knomanser: DjangoStonereaver: its not so much that the world has become more cyberpunk, but rather that the ideas of the
cyberpunk ethos have moved from the province of fringe authors to the socialogical mainstream.

There's a reason many authors known for Cyberpunk (like William Gibson) have started writing more modern-day thrillers.


I picked up Gibson's Spook Country (2007) a few years ago.

It was set in the present day, with very cyberpunkish themes and dystopian vibes. Pretty enjoyable read, but not exactly ground breaking.

/anyways, this is a bookmark
 
2013-07-25 12:12:20 PM
Unlocks in an hour, but no pre-download.

Stlll 10% off on Steam
 
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