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(Talking Points Memo)   Senator Roy Blunt (R-MO) just wants to tell the House that there will be *NO* debt ceiling fight this year. House Republicans thanked the senator and asked how he liked his primary challenger: crazy or liberal?   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 65
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2013-07-25 10:03:40 AM
Wow, he spoke out against the Tea Party. To do that, he must have been smoking a... what's the word I'm looking for? Spliff? Doobie? Joint? Fatty? Huh, I just can't think of the word...
 
2013-07-25 10:18:16 AM

show me: Wow, he spoke out against the Tea Party. To do that, he must have been smoking a... what's the word I'm looking for? Spliff? Doobie? Joint? Fatty? Huh, I just can't think of the word...


It's right on the tip of your tongue.
 
2013-07-25 10:21:14 AM
"I think holding the debt limit hostage to any specific thing is probably not the best negotiating place."

It's a nice sentiment and I appreciate it.  But he's terribly naive in believing his party is interested in "negotiating" anything.
 
2013-07-25 10:24:23 AM

show me: Wow, he spoke out against the Tea Party. To do that, he must have been smoking a... what's the word I'm looking for? Spliff? Doobie? Joint? Fatty? Huh, I just can't think of the word...


"dick in a bathroom"
 
2013-07-25 10:37:40 AM

Diogenes: "I think holding the debt limit hostage to any specific thing is probably not the best negotiating place."

It's a nice sentiment and I appreciate it.  But he's terribly naive in believing his party is interested in "negotiating" anything.


Or doing things the best way. Or doing things that might be good for the country. Or even doing things at all.

Really the only thing that might keep the debt ceiling from blowing up this year is that the GOP took a beating in the polls the last time they did it.
 
2013-07-25 11:10:17 AM

odinsposse: Diogenes: "I think holding the debt limit hostage to any specific thing is probably not the best negotiating place."

It's a nice sentiment and I appreciate it.  But he's terribly naive in believing his party is interested in "negotiating" anything.

Or doing things the best way. Or doing things that might be good for the country. Or even doing things at all.

Really the only thing that might keep the debt ceiling from blowing up this year is that the GOP took a beating in the polls the last time they did it.


Oh, they've unskewed those polls and are going to go full steam ahead on holding the debt ceiling hostage again.
 
2013-07-25 11:10:25 AM
Of course there won't be a fight.  Because they won't raise it.  No matter what.

/like economic terrorism.
 
2013-07-25 11:12:10 AM
I'm not sure whether I hope the Tea Partiers in the House actually do refuse to raise the debt ceiling and blow up the worldwide economy or that they come to their senses before then.
 
2013-07-25 11:12:11 AM
Wow, he's only 63? The picture in TFA makes him look 83.
 
2013-07-25 11:14:38 AM
So, he's about 5% right this time.  Spending cuts?  For what reason?

(don't like him as one of my senators, and his son was a worse governor)
 
2013-07-25 11:15:35 AM
A liberal primary challenger? Seems unlikely.
 
2013-07-25 11:17:03 AM

Alphax: So, he's about 5% right this time.  Spending cuts?  For what reason?

(don't like him as one of my senators, and his son was a worse governor)


To his credit, he's referencing 'mandatory' spending cuts and not cuts to discretionary funding.
 
2013-07-25 11:17:21 AM
Over half the members of the House think that the government should not exist and that they should not be allowed to hold the job they currently draw a paycheck from. There is no reasoning with them, there is only war
 
2013-07-25 11:17:23 AM

Arkanaut: A liberal primary challenger? Seems unlikely.


Heh.  Guess a liberal Republican now doesn't want to ban birth control.
 
2013-07-25 11:18:44 AM

Infernalist: Alphax: So, he's about 5% right this time.  Spending cuts?  For what reason?

(don't like him as one of my senators, and his son was a worse governor)

To his credit, he's referencing 'mandatory' spending cuts and not cuts to discretionary funding.


Why is that to his credit?
 
2013-07-25 11:19:51 AM
I think holding the debt limit hostage to any specific thing is probably not the best negotiating place. Where we ought to be now is -- we need more spending cuts.

I'm willing to bet he says he hates "Obama's sequester".
 
2013-07-25 11:20:32 AM
It's remarkable he has time to do Wait Wait Don't Tell Me almost every week.
 
2013-07-25 11:22:52 AM
Krugman had an interesting piece the other day that speculated the reason the house is gonna force this again even after it hurt them badly last time is because they REALLY want to stop Obamacare before the average American has a chance to get used to it and decide that they like it.
 
2013-07-25 11:27:14 AM

Gunther: Krugman had an interesting piece the other day that speculated the reason the house is gonna force this again even after it hurt them badly last time is because they REALLY want to stop Obamacare before the average American has a chance to get used to it and decide that they like it.


Regarding tax increases and obamacare: the GOP is not afraid of either having negative consequences but they are pants shiattingly terrified the consequences will be positive.
 
2013-07-25 11:28:33 AM

Gunther: Krugman had an interesting piece the other day that speculated the reason the house is gonna force this again even after it hurt them badly last time is because they REALLY want to stop Obamacare before the average American has a chance to get used to it and decide that they like it.


Well duh. I thought that was obvious after Mike Lee literally called this the "last stop" before the exchanges and the individual shared responsibility payment activate.
 
2013-07-25 11:30:08 AM
I'm not sure how this can really work. The last couple times the GOP did this, the debt and deficit were made into huge, destiny-altering issues which, while insane, at least gave them some momentum and cover for doing this. Now, there's no such feeling or threat. How can they get away with it?
 
2013-07-25 11:30:15 AM

Thank You Black Jesus!: Gunther: Krugman had an interesting piece the other day that speculated the reason the house is gonna force this again even after it hurt them badly last time is because they REALLY want to stop Obamacare before the average American has a chance to get used to it and decide that they like it.

Regarding tax increases and obamacare: the GOP is not afraid of either having negative consequences but they are pants shiattingly terrified the consequences will be positive.


Nah, they are doing it so that Cantor can short Treasuries again and personally profity from screwing the country.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 11:32:18 AM

Arkanaut: A liberal primary challenger? Seems unlikely.


Came here to say this
 
2013-07-25 11:32:28 AM

Diogenes: "I think holding the debt limit hostage to any specific thing is probably not the best negotiating place."

It's a nice sentiment and I appreciate it.  But he's terribly naive in believing his party is interested in "negotiating" anything.


Don't be fooled by Roy Blunt.  He was Tom Delay's hatchet man in the House.  He's just working the refs.
 
2013-07-25 11:33:12 AM

DamnYankees: I'm not sure how this can really work. The last couple times the GOP did this, the debt and deficit were made into huge, destiny-altering issues which, while insane, at least gave them some momentum and cover for doing this. Now, there's no such feeling or threat. How can they get away with it?


'If we can't rule America, NO ONE WILL!!!'
 
2013-07-25 11:33:30 AM

Alphax:   Guess a liberal Republican now doesn't want to ban birth control.

Lost Thought 00: Over half the members of the House think that the government should not exist


Where do you guys get this stuff?
 
2013-07-25 11:33:53 AM

Lost Thought 00: Over half the members of the House think that the government should not exist and that they should not be allowed to hold the job they currently draw a paycheck from. There is no reasoning with them, there is only war


We're playing chicken with people who don't care if they get hit by a car.  Some of them actively want it.
 
2013-07-25 11:35:11 AM

Mentat: Diogenes: "I think holding the debt limit hostage to any specific thing is probably not the best negotiating place."

It's a nice sentiment and I appreciate it.  But he's terribly naive in believing his party is interested in "negotiating" anything.

Don't be fooled by Roy Blunt.  He was Tom Delay's hatchet man in the House.  He's just working the refs.


To further mix metaphors, he did seem to tip his hand with the remainder of his statement.
 
2013-07-25 11:35:30 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Alphax:   Guess a liberal Republican now doesn't want to ban birth control.

Lost Thought 00: Over half the members of the House think that the government should not exist

Where do you guys get this stuff?


We observe actions.
 
2013-07-25 11:35:38 AM

shanrick: show me: Wow, he spoke out against the Tea Party. To do that, he must have been smoking a... what's the word I'm looking for? Spliff? Doobie? Joint? Fatty? Huh, I just can't think of the word...

It's right on the tip of your tongue.


Bud?
 
2013-07-25 11:37:14 AM
Interesting. I don't have a tally handy, but it seems like we've seen more than the usual number of Republican-bucks-the-crazy-trend incidents just in the last few weeks.

It makes me wonder if half of them had a secret meeting of the people who realize they're on a downward spiral, and out of a desire for survival they're repudiating the others...
 
2013-07-25 11:38:15 AM

Gunther: Krugman had an interesting piece the other day that speculated the reason the house is gonna force this again even after it hurt them badly last time is because they REALLY want to stop Obamacare before the average American has a chance to get used to it and decide that they like it.


This is about hurting Obama and punishing America for electing Democrats. It's the Republicans throwing a temper tantrum, because mentally, they are children.
 
2013-07-25 11:38:46 AM

DamnYankees: I'm not sure how this can really work. The last couple times the GOP did this, the debt and deficit were made into huge, destiny-altering issues which, while insane, at least gave them some momentum and cover for doing this. Now, there's no such feeling or threat. How can they get away with it?


I guess the easy answer is gerrymandering. They will feel no heat for it from the people back home.
 
2013-07-25 11:42:29 AM

show me: Wow, he spoke out against the Tea Party. To do that, he must have been smoking a... what's the word I'm looking for? Spliff? Doobie? Joint? Fatty? Huh, I just can't think of the word...


Roy.

Well, that's what we call them locally. We say "Hey, don't bogart that Roy!"
 
2013-07-25 11:46:21 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: show me: Wow, he spoke out against the Tea Party. To do that, he must have been smoking a... what's the word I'm looking for? Spliff? Doobie? Joint? Fatty? Huh, I just can't think of the word...

Roy.

Well, that's what we call them locally. We say "Hey, don't bogart that Roy!"


Roooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooy another one.....
 
2013-07-25 11:49:58 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: show me: Wow, he spoke out against the Tea Party. To do that, he must have been smoking a... what's the word I'm looking for? Spliff? Doobie? Joint? Fatty? Huh, I just can't think of the word...

Roy.

Well, that's what we call them locally. We say "Hey, don't bogart that Roy!"


That's it! Thank you!
 
2013-07-25 11:51:05 AM
These people need to be raped by God until they are piles of skin and ooze.

But tell me again how Obama refuses to work with Congress to provide sensible economic policy.
 
2013-07-25 11:52:34 AM

Gunther: Krugman had an interesting piece the other day that speculated the reason the house is gonna force this again even after it hurt them badly last time is because they REALLY want to stop Obamacare before the average American has a chance to get used to it and decide that they like it.


Rachel Maddow had a fascinating segment about how the House is planning on holding emergency town hall meetings in their districts to scare people into fighting against the health crisis that is Obamacare.
 
2013-07-25 11:54:43 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: show me: Wow, he spoke out against the Tea Party. To do that, he must have been smoking a... what's the word I'm looking for? Spliff? Doobie? Joint? Fatty? Huh, I just can't think of the word...

Roy.

Well, that's what we call them locally. We say "Hey, don't bogart that Roy!"


Hey, wasn't there once a boy named Gimmesome Roy?
 
2013-07-25 11:55:19 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: show me: Wow, he spoke out against the Tea Party. To do that, he must have been smoking a... what's the word I'm looking for? Spliff? Doobie? Joint? Fatty? Huh, I just can't think of the word...

Roy.

Well, that's what we call them locally. We say "Hey, don't bogart that Roy!"


deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com

WE LIKE ROY!!

// wrong episode, I know
// MONO-...d'oh!
 
2013-07-25 11:56:24 AM

DamnYankees: I'm not sure how this can really work. The last couple times the GOP did this, the debt and deficit were made into huge, destiny-altering issues which, while insane, at least gave them some momentum and cover for doing this. Now, there's no such feeling or threat. How can they get away with it?


Well, they've gerrymandered guaranteed wins in many states...

Honestly, each bat sh*t idea they've come up with should have been the last straw. God, remember Moon Base Gingrich? Herman 'Hands' Cain? Mitt R-Money? Santorum? The year of baffling rape and contraception comments ?
 
2013-07-25 11:58:06 AM

Bontesla: Gunther: Krugman had an interesting piece the other day that speculated the reason the house is gonna force this again even after it hurt them badly last time is because they REALLY want to stop Obamacare before the average American has a chance to get used to it and decide that they like it.

Rachel Maddow had a fascinating segment about how the House is planning on holding emergency town hall meetings in their districts to scare people into fighting against the health crisis that is Obamacare.


I wonder what would happen if someone attended one of those, and held up a sign that says 'liar' whenever a lie is told.
 
2013-07-25 12:00:12 PM

Alphax: Bontesla: Gunther: Krugman had an interesting piece the other day that speculated the reason the house is gonna force this again even after it hurt them badly last time is because they REALLY want to stop Obamacare before the average American has a chance to get used to it and decide that they like it.

Rachel Maddow had a fascinating segment about how the House is planning on holding emergency town hall meetings in their districts to scare people into fighting against the health crisis that is Obamacare.

I wonder what would happen if someone attended one of those, and held up a sign that says 'liar' whenever a lie is told.


UNRULY MOB
 
2013-07-25 12:02:21 PM

Mentat: Alphax: Bontesla: Gunther: Krugman had an interesting piece the other day that speculated the reason the house is gonna force this again even after it hurt them badly last time is because they REALLY want to stop Obamacare before the average American has a chance to get used to it and decide that they like it.

Rachel Maddow had a fascinating segment about how the House is planning on holding emergency town hall meetings in their districts to scare people into fighting against the health crisis that is Obamacare.

I wonder what would happen if someone attended one of those, and held up a sign that says 'liar' whenever a lie is told.

UNRULY MOB


SEIU/ACORN thugs violated our First Amendment rights!
 
2013-07-25 12:04:47 PM

Alphax: Bontesla: Gunther: Krugman had an interesting piece the other day that speculated the reason the house is gonna force this again even after it hurt them badly last time is because they REALLY want to stop Obamacare before the average American has a chance to get used to it and decide that they like it.

Rachel Maddow had a fascinating segment about how the House is planning on holding emergency town hall meetings in their districts to scare people into fighting against the health crisis that is Obamacare.

I wonder what would happen if someone attended one of those, and held up a sign that says 'liar' whenever a lie is told.


Don't do that in Florida. Someone might feel threatened by your sign and then shoot you.
 
2013-07-25 12:09:06 PM

show me: Wow, he spoke out against the Tea Party. To do that, he must have been smoking a... what's the word I'm looking for? Spliff? Doobie? Joint? Fatty? Huh, I just can't think of the word...


What's sad is that I got almost all the way to the end of the comments before I got the joke.
 
2013-07-25 12:16:23 PM

clambam: Alphax: Bontesla: Gunther: Krugman had an interesting piece the other day that speculated the reason the house is gonna force this again even after it hurt them badly last time is because they REALLY want to stop Obamacare before the average American has a chance to get used to it and decide that they like it.

Rachel Maddow had a fascinating segment about how the House is planning on holding emergency town hall meetings in their districts to scare people into fighting against the health crisis that is Obamacare.

I wonder what would happen if someone attended one of those, and held up a sign that says 'liar' whenever a lie is told.

Don't do that in Florida. Someone might feel threatened by your sign and then shoot you.


Good thing I don't live there.

Anyway, my Rep is a Democrat, so I rarely hear anything at all about him in the news since 2010. Presumably, because the Republicans don't allow him to do anything.
 
2013-07-25 12:18:48 PM
This will go about as well for them as it did last time. We raised the debt ceiling, the sky did not fall, life goes on. They've cried wolf far too often about it.
 
2013-07-25 12:26:23 PM
I think this is fair. Obama gets the debt ceiling raised, Republicans repeal Obamacare. Last time it was Obama got taxes raised on the wealthy, Republicans got the sequester.

I really hope Obama loses the debt ceiling fight and fails miserably.
 
2013-07-25 12:30:40 PM

Alphax: I wonder what would happen if someone attended one of those, and held up a sign that says 'liar' whenever a lie is told.


Likely have you arrested and removed for being disruptive.
 
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