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(ABC)   35 years ago today, Louise Brown, the first "test tube baby" was born. Since then in-vitro fertilization has become very common. So common that Congress is considering using your taxes to fund IVF for poor, infertile couples   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 276
    More: Followup, Louise Brown, IVF, reproductive medicine, TRICARE, fertility treatments, CEO Barbara Collura, out-of-pocket costs  
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2013-07-25 10:29:57 AM
Yeah.... that's a terrible idea.

What's wrong with adoption anyway? Why do you have to spend thousands of dollars to have your own biological offspring when there are existing children who need a home?
 
2013-07-25 10:33:23 AM
This is not he future that science fiction promised me.

www.centerforhumanreprod.com
 
2013-07-25 10:41:21 AM
People who can't afford IVF treatments doesn't equal "poor people"  subby, you sh*thead.
 
2013-07-25 10:41:56 AM
IVF is expensive. Poor couples who can't conceive naturally should adopt.
 
2013-07-25 10:46:29 AM
Sybarite: This is not he future that science fiction promised me.

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2013-07-25 10:52:39 AM
fark off, subby.  Infertility is an illness, and should be covered as such.
 
2013-07-25 11:02:05 AM
Eesh. We reeeeeeeeeeeeeeally could have used some Congressional funding.
 
2013-07-25 11:02:25 AM
But if you are infertile, isn't that God's way of saying don't farking have kids?
 
2013-07-25 11:02:49 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: fark off, subby.  Infertility is an illness, and should be covered as such.


Infertility may be one thing we don't want to treat for the good of the human race.
 
2013-07-25 11:02:52 AM
So is the headline trolling?

DRTFA, more outraged over the autoplay video.
 
2013-07-25 11:04:09 AM

Nojimbo: So is the headline trolling?


Nah, it'd have to have Zimmerman in it somewhere.
 
2013-07-25 11:04:10 AM
This is probably way worse than spending hundreds of billions a year to bomb brown people and build planes that nobody wants.

etc.
 
2013-07-25 11:04:15 AM

vernonFL: IVF is expensive. Poor couples who can't conceive naturally should adopt.


While that is a perfectly valid option, adoption is oftentimes just as expensive as IVF.

/also, good luck being approved for an adoption if you're poor.
 
2013-07-25 11:04:28 AM

Donnchadha: Yeah.... that's a terrible idea.

What's wrong with adoption anyway? Why do you have to spend thousands of dollars to have your own biological offspring when there are existing children who need a home?


All of this.

/maybe use some of those tax dollars on, oh I dunno... birth control???
 
2013-07-25 11:04:51 AM

Donnchadha: Yeah.... that's a terrible idea.

What's wrong with adoption anyway? Why do you have to spend thousands of dollars to have your own biological offspring when there are existing children who need a home?


Sounds like something Congress COULD spend tax dollars incentivizing...
 
2013-07-25 11:05:03 AM

vernonFL: couples who can't conceive naturally should adopt.


Fixed.
 
2013-07-25 11:05:20 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: fark off, subby.  Infertility is an illness, and should be covered as such.


Being ugly is an ilness. Congress should pay for hookers for the uglo-americans
 
2013-07-25 11:05:35 AM
Something I've occasionally wondered is why infertile people would rather undergo medical treatment rather than adopting a child.
 
2013-07-25 11:05:48 AM
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They're only helping poor people have children so rich people can eat them.

/EAT THE BABIES
 
2013-07-25 11:05:53 AM
Virtually all of humanity's problems could be solved by there simply being way fewer of us in existence.

/we should be funding birth control, not this
 
2013-07-25 11:06:10 AM

FarkedOver: But if you are infertile, isn't that God's way of saying don't farking have kids?


Just like cancer or a heart attack.  Or being a ginger.
 
2013-07-25 11:06:21 AM

FarkedOver: But if you are infertile, isn't that God's way of saying don't farking have kids?


Yes. And your marriage should be annulled, too. Because of the threat it presents to the productive marriages.
 
2013-07-25 11:06:47 AM

misanthropic1: Virtually all of humanity's problems could be solved by there simply being way fewer of us in existence.

/we should be funding birth control, not this


You're absolutely wrong.  All of humanity's problems can be solved via tax cuts.
 
2013-07-25 11:08:15 AM
Poor people should have children.
 
2013-07-25 11:08:25 AM
Having your own kid instead of adopting is substituting the single most efficacious good that a person can do for a selfish act. Having your own kid is in-and-of-itself unjustifiable. When you consider the opportunity cost, it's pretty evil.
 
2013-07-25 11:08:53 AM
Came for Octomom pics and left disappointed.
 
2013-07-25 11:09:17 AM
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Meanwhile, back at the clown car....
 
2013-07-25 11:09:20 AM
Good, I was just thinking the one thing poor people need is for more mouths to feed.  Nothing helps get you out of poverty faster then not having time to go to school or work for better work.
 
2013-07-25 11:09:24 AM

Brittabot: vernonFL: IVF is expensive. Poor couples who can't conceive naturally should adopt.

While that is a perfectly valid option, adoption is oftentimes just as expensive as IVF.

/also, good luck being approved for an adoption if you're poor.


But social Darwinism yada yada!

If you're poor because you're both public school teachers maybe you should get a sprog, but if you're poor because you aren't capable of working a job above the level of dish washer maybe you shouldn't be spreading those memes, let alone genes.
 
2013-07-25 11:10:23 AM
Infertility is becoming more frequent because of the chemicals in the foods we eat, and the things in our surroundings. Men are having lower and lower sperm counts because of estrogen mimics in plastics, and from the increase in soy in all of our food.
we should be fixing those problems because they effect everyone.
 
2013-07-25 11:10:35 AM
Head Assplodes
 
2013-07-25 11:11:19 AM
People who are so gung ho to judge IVF couples for not adopting should do a little research into what it takes to adopt these days.  After seven years of infertility we went to Catholic Charities and were told we had to supply a $5,000 non-refundable "donation" up front just to apply.  Then you have to be researched and accepted, then a mom has to pick YOU out of the thousands of people who are submitted, and if picked, you then pay an additional $15-$18K "donation" in order to adopt the kid.  You can be on the list for seven years with no guarantee of getting a child and your application fee will not be returned.  While on the list for adoption if you happen to, by some miracle get pregnant, you're removed from the list without a refund because they don't want natural born infants and adopted children in the same home together.

Don't even get me started on the hoops required for adoption from foreign countries, which can include writing a letter of apology to the Chinese government for any past misdemeanors, even as a juvenile.
 
2013-07-25 11:11:37 AM
In Canada you can get some of the costs of IVF covered if you are infertile (at least if the woman has certain conditions), but you still have to chip in a ton of your own money.

I have friends who did this, had some assistance from OHIP but still wound up paying close to $10k for IVF that didn't even end up working.

They're looking into adoption now but finding it mired in a bunch of bullshiat and extreme costs as well.
 
2013-07-25 11:11:57 AM
yeah if youre infertile.. no tax dollars should go towards fixing it.
 
2013-07-25 11:12:16 AM
What I find frightening is that we will be doing the follwing for the poor:

Free birth control
Free abortions
Free hospital care
Free child care
Free food

Now if you can't concieve to receive the above last three We are going to HELP YOU GET KNOCKED UP?

Instead, let's fund them for adoption, match 'em with a kid and help pay for the EXISTING child rather than create another uneeded human being.

Unfreakingbelievable.
 
2013-07-25 11:12:25 AM

Brittabot: vernonFL: IVF is expensive. Poor couples who can't conceive naturally should adopt.

While that is a perfectly valid option, adoption is oftentimes just as expensive as IVF.

/also, good luck being approved for an adoption if you're poor.


This.  Your life has to be just about picture perfect in order to successfully adopt a child in this country.
 
2013-07-25 11:13:03 AM

teenytinycornteeth: People who are so gung ho to judge IVF couples for not adopting should do a little research into what it takes to adopt these days.  After seven years of infertility we went to Catholic Charities and were told we had to supply a $5,000 non-refundable "donation" up front just to apply.  Then you have to be researched and accepted, then a mom has to pick YOU out of the thousands of people who are submitted, and if picked, you then pay an additional $15-$18K "donation" in order to adopt the kid.  You can be on the list for seven years with no guarantee of getting a child and your application fee will not be returned.  While on the list for adoption if you happen to, by some miracle get pregnant, you're removed from the list without a refund because they don't want natural born infants and adopted children in the same home together.

Don't even get me started on the hoops required for adoption from foreign countries, which can include writing a letter of apology to the Chinese government for any past misdemeanors, even as a juvenile.


It should be just as difficult to have children naturally, IMHO.
 
2013-07-25 11:13:31 AM
So if you are on welfare does your state funded medical card pay for it? Once child is born does the state pay for housing, free lunches, etc for the child? If so this seems like a bad idea.
 
2013-07-25 11:14:14 AM

bmwericus: Free birth control
Free abortions
Free hospital care
Free child care
Free food


I'm poor and I don't get any of this for free. Certainly not the abortions, birth control, or hospital care.

For the food, I could stop by the local food bank. That isn't the government paying for it though. It's the kindness of the citizens around me.
 
2013-07-25 11:14:16 AM

Donnchadha: Yeah.... that's a terrible idea.

What's wrong with adoption anyway? Why do you have to spend thousands of dollars to have your own biological offspring when there are existing children who need a home?


You should look up the cost of adoption sometime. IVF can be cheap in comparison, and you don't have some outside group reviewing your finances,housing,pets, etc to determine if you're a "fit" parent. Some friends of mine were looking into adoption versus IVF, and it was $10k cheaper to get IVF than to adopt ($15k vs $25k). Adoption is only cheaper if you are adopting from the 3rd world, and not everyone is into super-high-risk adoptions like that, where the child could have multiple issues or the adoption agency could be very sketchy.
 
2013-07-25 11:14:19 AM
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2013-07-25 11:14:22 AM
IVF for everyone who wants it!

Especially, the crazy 8 time mothers without any employable skill!

/ one useless person is a disgrace

Two are a lawfirm

And, three or more become a congress!
 
2013-07-25 11:14:56 AM
I'm irrationally against any kind of fertility treatments. I don't know why.  I'm not generally anti-science but I just can't support one.  A part of me is kind of "You're not meant to have children." and the other is "This is a waste of medical science." I do support access to birth control and abortion etc. So making babies nay, stopping it yea. I wouldn't want my tax dollars supporting this either.
 
2013-07-25 11:15:34 AM
My test tube baby is due in two months.  The process was incredibly hard on Mrs. Duelist, but totally worth it now.  Thank you, Mr. and Mrs. Brown!
 
2013-07-25 11:15:41 AM

teenytinycornteeth: Brittabot: vernonFL: IVF is expensive. Poor couples who can't conceive naturally should adopt.

While that is a perfectly valid option, adoption is oftentimes just as expensive as IVF.

/also, good luck being approved for an adoption if you're poor.

This.  Your life has to be just about picture perfect in order to successfully adopt a child in this country.


Yep. I've never been so thoroughly screened in all my life. And that was before our profile books were even allowed to go out.

Also, kiss any sort of maternity leave good-bye.
 
2013-07-25 11:15:50 AM

Nurglitch: Something I've occasionally wondered is why infertile people would rather undergo medical treatment rather than adopting a child.


For a mini-me.
 
2013-07-25 11:16:59 AM
Ever see a third world, poor as dirt farmer struggling to conceive children? Maybe evolution is telling you something, middle class white people.
 
2013-07-25 11:17:40 AM

Maggie_Luna: I'm irrationally against any kind of fertility treatments. I don't know why.  I'm not generally anti-science but I just can't support one.  A part of me is kind of "You're not meant to have children." and the other is "This is a waste of medical science." I do support access to birth control and abortion etc. So making babies nay, stopping it yea. I wouldn't want my tax dollars supporting this either.


Shoot, I didn't add the important part. Unlike the anti birth control people or whatever I'm not actively trying t stop it because you know, choice and that stuff.
 
2013-07-25 11:18:32 AM

White Rose Duelist: My test tube baby is due in two months.  The process was incredibly hard on Mrs. Duelist, but totally worth it now.  Thank you, Mr. and Mrs. Brown!


God, no kidding. That many self-injections, amidst everything else... fark.
 
2013-07-25 11:18:44 AM
Media: 'Test Tude Baby'

Science: Petri Dish Baby
 
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