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(Yahoo)   Up is down, left is right, and a Chevrolet is at the top of Consumer Reports' new sedan rankings with the third-highest score they've ever given out   (finance.yahoo.com) divider line 50
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2013-07-25 09:48:29 AM  
Watch the dealers ruin it.  They will jack the price up to MSRP, pissing off potential buyers.

Where is this car made?  Hopefully not Detroit.
 
2013-07-25 09:48:40 AM  
Meh
 
2013-07-25 09:48:51 AM  
Mexico must be so prouded!
 
2013-07-25 09:49:49 AM  
I thought it was up up down down left right left right B A start that made crazy shiat like this happen
 
2013-07-25 09:50:28 AM  
Looks like a re-badged Honda Accord, which would explain the good quality.
 
2013-07-25 09:51:25 AM  
this is the same review magazine that repeatedly whipped the Samurai around in ever tightening circles until they got it to tip in the parking lot. trustworthy.
 
2013-07-25 09:51:37 AM  
And, Behold! I saw an angel. And the angel held forth a scroll and bade me eat it. And the scroll was sweet on my tongue and bitter in my stomach...
 
2013-07-25 09:52:52 AM  
Consumer reports has been so biased for so many years it is a miracle anyone takes them seriously.

I remember when they tested a Pontiac Fiero (granted, not a great vehicle) against 2 Japanese two seaters. Their tests showed the Pontiac was better built in every way, out performed the others very clearly, and I believe it might have even been less expensive. Their recommendation? Buy anything but the Pontiac. Why do the freaking tests if you do not follow what they show?
 
2013-07-25 09:53:10 AM  
bostonsoftware.com

Drive his parents' car.
 
2013-07-25 09:53:14 AM  
A simple list to view would have been helpful.

/very happy with my VW CC
 
2013-07-25 09:53:53 AM  
SurelyShirley


Looks like a re-badged Honda Accord, which would explain the good quality.

I didn't see it until you mentioned it, but yes the similarities are significant.
 
2013-07-25 09:55:26 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: SurelyShirley


Looks like a re-badged Honda Accord, which would explain the good quality.

I didn't see it until you mentioned it, but yes the similarities are significant.


I look at the Honda Accord and see a rebadged Chevy Impala.
 
2013-07-25 09:56:10 AM  

garandman1a: Consumer reports has been so biased for so many years it is a miracle anyone takes them seriously.

I remember when they tested a Pontiac Fiero (granted, not a great vehicle) against 2 Japanese two seaters. Their tests showed the Pontiac was better built in every way, out performed the others very clearly, and I believe it might have even been less expensive. Their recommendation? Buy anything but the Pontiac. Why do the freaking tests if you do not follow what they show?


Worse was when they tested the geo prism against the toyota corolla. The toyo got top marks and the geo was a heap. The problem was the geo was a toyo rebadged. Haven't paid them any attention since.
 
2013-07-25 09:56:15 AM  
Great!  I will run right out and buy rent one today!
 
2013-07-25 09:57:04 AM  
My dad is all giggly about his new Volt.  He's constantly on the smartphone app checking out his driving and charging stats.
 
2013-07-25 09:59:52 AM  
Probably still going to buy a new Sentra this weekend. I know what I want. Now I have to figure out how much of a deal I can get.

/Sentra SV with luxury kit, alpine white with charcoal interior, msrp including fees is 22715 cdn.
 
2013-07-25 10:00:43 AM  
However, since it is so new, there is no reliability data for the Impala and Consumer Reports did not add the large sedan to its "recommended" list. To achieve that, a vehicle must perform well in the magazine's testing, have average or better reliability and perform well in government and industry crash tests.

Waa Waa
 
2013-07-25 10:01:52 AM  
All snark aside, it's a really nice car. And CR aren't the only ones to notice.

I just hope drb9 is wrong about the dealers screwing it up....but to quote a certain space pilot; "I've got a bad feeling about this."
 
2013-07-25 10:04:13 AM  
GM cars failed me once, failed me twice. Horribly. Spectacularly.

I will never give them a third chance...there are simply too many good options out there.
 
2013-07-25 10:10:58 AM  

Mr_Fabulous: GM cars failed me once, failed me twice. Horribly. Spectacularly.

I will never give them a third chance...there are simply too many good options out there.


Same here.  Two clunker GMs means we are never ever ever getting back together.
 
2013-07-25 10:13:41 AM  
Motor Trend had it 2nd.  I have always been a little leery on CR's studies.  I've been in one before, the finish is still not on par with its competitors and CR stating that it's handling is surprising for a large car says to me they aren't really testing too much.  It's handling is on par with its competitors.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1307_the_big_test_2013_20 14 _full_size_sedans/viewall.html
 
2013-07-25 10:17:34 AM  

garandman1a: Consumer reports has been so biased for so many years it is a miracle anyone takes them seriously.

I remember when they tested a Pontiac Fiero (granted, not a great vehicle) against 2 Japanese two seaters. Their tests showed the Pontiac was better built in every way, out performed the others very clearly, and I believe it might have even been less expensive. Their recommendation? Buy anything but the Pontiac. Why do the freaking tests if you do not follow what they show?


To be fair, wasn't that pretty good advice for the time? If you bought a Fiero back then, the engine could have potentially burst into flames and you would have had to deal with all of the other rampant GM quality issues of the time. If you took their advice and bought something like a 300ZX or a Supra, you'd have a much better ownership experience.
 
2013-07-25 10:21:06 AM  
I had two GM products that served me very well - a 1992 GMC Sonoma and a 2000 Saturn SL. Unfortunately, GM's management and labor force took turns stabbing Saturn in the back, so when the time came to replace the Saturn, I went to Honda instead. It didn't help GM that at the time, their small hatchback offering was the Chevy Aveo.

Even if they hadn't farked Saturn over, I'd be hesitant to go with GM, if only because of their insistence on forcing OnStar down our throats.
 
2013-07-25 10:26:40 AM  
...BMW's 135i coupe (97) scored higher.


Yeah that's right, los biatches.
 
2013-07-25 10:33:38 AM  
They are making some great stuff now, actually.  If you're still hung up on 30 year old impressions, well, I don't know what to tell you...
 
2013-07-25 10:36:56 AM  

please: They are making some great stuff now, actually.  If you're still hung up on 30 year old impressions, well, I don't know what to tell you...


22mpg = sad.
Reliability = very questionable.
Next.
 
2013-07-25 10:49:57 AM  

garandman1a: Consumer reports has been so biased for so many years it is a miracle anyone takes them seriously.

I remember when they tested a Pontiac Fiero (granted, not a great vehicle) against 2 Japanese two seaters. Their tests showed the Pontiac was better built in every way, out performed the others very clearly, and I believe it might have even been less expensive. Their recommendation? Buy anything but the Pontiac. Why do the freaking tests if you do not follow what they show?


Better built? 80s GM quality, several recalls due to bad exhaust manifold design, fading paint.
Outperform? The initial 4-cylinder version goes from 0-60 in 11 seconds. And that's with the (very sloppy) manual.
Are you sure your remembrance on this matter is clear? Because the correct answer absolutely should have been buy anything but the Fiero. I should know, I've owned three of the farking things.
 
2013-07-25 10:54:24 AM  

please: They are making some great stuff now, actually.  If you're still hung up on 30 year old impressions, well, I don't know what to tell you...


30?

Try 3
 
2013-07-25 10:58:58 AM  

please: hey are making some great OK stuff now, actually.  If you're still hung up on 30 year old impressions, well, I don't know what to tell you..


They have caught up to competition a bit, but I still would not call the product great.
 
2013-07-25 10:59:49 AM  

nytmare: garandman1a: Consumer reports has been so biased for so many years it is a miracle anyone takes them seriously.

I remember when they tested a Pontiac Fiero (granted, not a great vehicle) against 2 Japanese two seaters. Their tests showed the Pontiac was better built in every way, out performed the others very clearly, and I believe it might have even been less expensive. Their recommendation? Buy anything but the Pontiac. Why do the freaking tests if you do not follow what they show?

Better built? 80s GM quality, several recalls due to bad exhaust manifold design, fading paint.
Outperform? The initial 4-cylinder version goes from 0-60 in 11 seconds. And that's with the (very sloppy) manual.
Are you sure your remembrance on this matter is clear? Because the correct answer absolutely should have been buy anything but the Fiero. I should know, I've owned three of the farking things.


Three Fieros? No wonder your handle is nytmare.
 
2013-07-25 11:41:13 AM  

Carn: please: They are making some great stuff now, actually.  If you're still hung up on 30 year old impressions, well, I don't know what to tell you...

22mpg = sad.
Reliability = very questionable.
Next.


How about 12mpg and still running strong after 23 years of hard use?
 
2013-07-25 11:52:21 AM  
I just bought a '67 Impala as my weekend fun car.  Currently driving a Grand Prix but since the Yanks fracked up and said Pontiac wasn't a seller I'll be looking for something else in a while.  Maybe in 17 I'll get an SS Impala for 50 years difference.

No problem with GM cars.  Ever.  Several have topped 300 000 km.
 
2013-07-25 11:54:44 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: Carn: please: They are making some great stuff now, actually.  If you're still hung up on 30 year old impressions, well, I don't know what to tell you...

22mpg = sad.
Reliability = very questionable.
Next.

How about 12mpg and still running strong after 23 years of hard use?


12mpg man I hope it's a truck.  And if so, yeeha!

If a car, it's probably time to start thinking of upgrading.  I hope I don't have to buy a new vehicle for a long time but when I do, gas mileage will be the top or near the top of the list of importance for me.
 
2013-07-25 12:07:59 PM  
I hope this is a sign of things to come.
None of the "domestic" car manufacturers have made any cars that I've ever been interested in buying for years.  My last domestic was a 1995 Chrysler Cirrus.
But I like my latest domestic, a 2012 Tesla Model S Signature Performance.  I've had it since Dec 2012 and am loving this car.
 
2013-07-25 12:12:34 PM  
Do the new Impalas manufactured in Mexico come packed with cocaine and thick stacks of $20s?
 
2013-07-25 12:30:36 PM  

garandman1a: Consumer reports has been so biased for so many years it is a miracle anyone takes them seriously.

I remember when they tested a Pontiac Fiero (granted, not a great vehicle) against 2 Japanese two seaters. Their tests showed the Pontiac was better built in every way, out performed the others very clearly, and I believe it might have even been less expensive. Their recommendation? Buy anything but the Pontiac. Why do the freaking tests if you do not follow what they show?


Was there a "catches on fire" test?

/ Ended up being good advice
// Paging Alanis Morrisette
/// 10,000 spoons
 
2013-07-25 01:25:44 PM  

Carn: Smeggy Smurf: Carn: please: They are making some great stuff now, actually.  If you're still hung up on 30 year old impressions, well, I don't know what to tell you...

22mpg = sad.
Reliability = very questionable.
Next.

How about 12mpg and still running strong after 23 years of hard use?

12mpg man I hope it's a truck.  And if so, yeeha!

If a car, it's probably time to start thinking of upgrading.  I hope I don't have to buy a new vehicle for a long time but when I do, gas mileage will be the top or near the top of the list of importance for me.


Conversion van with a V8.  The last guy who owned it was a German kid (dumbass left his driver's license in the glove box) who took it all over Canada and the western US.
 
2013-07-25 02:27:23 PM  

MadSkillz: Probably still going to buy a new Sentra this weekend. I know what I want. Now I have to figure out how much of a deal I can get.

/Sentra SV with luxury kit, alpine white with charcoal interior, msrp including fees is 22715 cdn.


Going to be buying a new 2013 Altima SV this month.  Damn fine car for about 22k
 
2013-07-25 02:43:43 PM  

nytmare: garandman1a: Consumer reports has been so biased for so many years it is a miracle anyone takes them seriously.

I remember when they tested a Pontiac Fiero (granted, not a great vehicle) against 2 Japanese two seaters. Their tests showed the Pontiac was better built in every way, out performed the others very clearly, and I believe it might have even been less expensive. Their recommendation? Buy anything but the Pontiac. Why do the freaking tests if you do not follow what they show?

Better built? 80s GM quality, several recalls due to bad exhaust manifold design, fading paint.
Outperform? The initial 4-cylinder version goes from 0-60 in 11 seconds. And that's with the (very sloppy) manual.
Are you sure your remembrance on this matter is clear? Because the correct answer absolutely should have been buy anything but the Fiero. I should know, I've owned three of the farking things.



I am remembering correctly, yes. I did couch the outperform some, but I do remember that it handled better and the brakes were better. My problem wasn't really with the recommendation, but with the fact that their exhaustive tests showed one thing, and they completely chose to ignore what their own tests, that they designed, showed.

It seemed to me they had their recommendation ready to go before they even stepped into any of the vehicles, and then couldn't even be bothered to design tests to prove their preconceived notion. That really didn't seem to me to be the unbiased researcher they always claimed.
 
2013-07-25 03:13:51 PM  
I rented an Impala recently for a long road trip. I usually avoid Chevrolet when renting but my only other option was a Kia. I had a Kia on my previous trip and just hated it. Very uncomfortable and no power. So I sighed and took the Impala. To my great surprise the car was awesome. Very comfy, good amount of power and not bad on gas. Loads of room in the cabin and the trunk. It was hard to believe it was a Chevy.

If I was in the market for a new car I would seriously consider an Impala. Go rent one and drive the crap out of it. It'll surprise you.
 
2013-07-25 03:48:10 PM  

SirTanon: MadSkillz: Probably still going to buy a new Sentra this weekend. I know what I want. Now I have to figure out how much of a deal I can get.

/Sentra SV with luxury kit, alpine white with charcoal interior, msrp including fees is 22715 cdn.

Going to be buying a new 2013 Altima SV this month.  Damn fine car for about 22k


22k? That's much less than in Canada! The SV Altima starts at 27 here.
 
2013-07-25 04:55:52 PM  
What do they say about the new Mazda 6?  That is a dang fine looking car.
 
2013-07-25 06:44:30 PM  

Persnickety: Mr_Fabulous: GM cars failed me once, failed me twice. Horribly. Spectacularly.

I will never give them a third chance...there are simply too many good options out there.

Same here.  Two clunker GMs means we are never ever ever getting back together.


The problem is that each model is the result of different engineering teams.  That is true with any brand.  One model can be great while others suck.  Saying that all Fords are great or crappy, or all GMs are great or crappy, or all {insert any large brand} are great or crappy just doesn't cut it.
 
2013-07-25 07:05:33 PM  
FTFA: "It just shows that GM is back and they're making really desirable vehicles," Jake Fisher, director of auto testing at Consumer Reports, said in a telephone interview. "What's really amazing about it is the vehicle in one year went from one of the worst vehicles in its category to the best."

TRANSLATION: Jake Fisher and his auto testing buddies at CR got a LOT of GM-sponsored blowjobs over the past year.
 
2013-07-25 07:56:44 PM  
I rather like my '09 Malibu. The "Hybrid" is rather useless, though...
 
2013-07-25 09:57:42 PM  
When I was got married 20 years ago we got a subscription to Consumer Reports and bought our appliances according to their recommendations. Those expensive appliances did last more than 5 years. I just do not trust their ratings any more.
 
2013-07-25 11:06:10 PM  

SnipDaddyDad: When I was got married 20 years ago we got a subscription to Consumer Reports and bought our appliances according to their recommendations. Those expensive appliances did last more than 5 years. I just do not trust their ratings any more.


Is there a good replacement? Not so much for cars, but the appliances thing? Like say I'm going to buy a dehumidifier in a couple of months, because I probably will. Where should I look to figure out what is a good quality one?
 
2013-07-26 07:27:08 AM  
When the Ford Focus came out, it was highly praised by the auto magazines for a small sporty car. I needed a new car with good gas mileage, so I bought one. It was fun to drive. Enough power for a small car and a decent sporty suspension. But it started breaking down around 25,000 miles and was good for a catastrophic failure every 10,000 miles after that. Two bad fuel pumps, the clutch literally exploded into a million pieces, electrical problems etc. I replaced it with a Honda Civic that I had for 10 years and 200000 miles before it needed a major repair. The point is that this car is a redesigned for 2014 model. Let's see if it holds up as well as a Camry or Accord 10 years from now. I did just buy a GMC pickup to tow a camper trailer, so I am back in an american made vehicle.
 
2013-07-26 12:40:25 PM  

MadSkillz: SirTanon: MadSkillz: Probably still going to buy a new Sentra this weekend. I know what I want. Now I have to figure out how much of a deal I can get.

/Sentra SV with luxury kit, alpine white with charcoal interior, msrp including fees is 22715 cdn.

Going to be buying a new 2013 Altima SV this month.  Damn fine car for about 22k

22k? That's much less than in Canada! The SV Altima starts at 27 here.


I guess I should have qualified that statement.. I used to sell cars at a dealership many years ago, so I play hardball when I negotiate price.  The SV is around 27k here too (retail), but I've scrubbed that down quite a bit at the local Nissan dealer.   The $22k is out the door, BTW.
 
2013-07-26 01:43:30 PM  

SirTanon: MadSkillz: SirTanon: MadSkillz: Probably still going to buy a new Sentra this weekend. I know what I want. Now I have to figure out how much of a deal I can get.

/Sentra SV with luxury kit, alpine white with charcoal interior, msrp including fees is 22715 cdn.

Going to be buying a new 2013 Altima SV this month.  Damn fine car for about 22k

22k? That's much less than in Canada! The SV Altima starts at 27 here.

I guess I should have qualified that statement.. I used to sell cars at a dealership many years ago, so I play hardball when I negotiate price.  The SV is around 27k here too (retail), but I've scrubbed that down quite a bit at the local Nissan dealer.   The $22k is out the door, BTW.


I wish I had your skills. Three dealers and they wouldn't budge on this Sentra.
 
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