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(US News)   New study says that sex addiction is not a real mental disorder. Apparently it's just a result of being born with a Y chromosome   (usnews.com) divider line 22
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2013-07-25 10:31:19 AM  
We have a fox in the henhouse...

/South Park images filtered at work
 
2013-07-25 10:34:47 AM  
So it's genetic.
 
2013-07-25 10:37:00 AM  
Actually, since it's estrogen in the brain that gives rise to this kind of sex drive, and estrogen is typically seen as more of a female hormone (yet, perversely, this kind of passing the blood barrier only takes place in males), how about we do a minor swap? Woman can get the estrogen in the brain, complete with male sex drive...and men will get to see what it's like when they're not being driven crazy by their own sex drive.
 
2013-07-25 10:38:07 AM  
Sex addiction? Is that the same as gettin' a lot?
 
2013-07-25 10:49:08 AM  
24.media.tumblr.com

Just... jackin' it
 
2013-07-25 10:51:35 AM  
Apparently it's just a result of being born with a Y an X chromosome.

FTFY
 
2013-07-25 10:58:06 AM  

lightknight: and men will get to see what it's like when they're not being driven crazy by their own sex drive.


If this is true, men are pitiful.
 
2013-07-25 11:00:12 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: lightknight: and men will get to see what it's like when they're not being driven crazy by their own sex drive.

If this is true, men are pitiful.


??? It's biology. That's the way life works. Women get to be sexy, men get to want sex. So?
 
2013-07-25 11:02:30 AM  

Galloping Galoshes: Apparently it's just a result of being born with a Y an X chromosome.

FTFY

 
2013-07-25 11:16:10 AM  
 *looks at rest of Fark denizens*

Can you actually be addicted to something you've never had before?
 
2013-07-25 11:17:06 AM  
Damn, it was hoping it was an alien warlock.
 
2013-07-25 11:18:32 AM  
The primary symptoms -or at least the most obvious ones- of mental illness are states of mind and thought patterns. Those can be replicated. Given this, I think it's likely that as our understanding of mental illness improves, we will have to start distinguishing between "biogenic" cases where a typical underlying biological cause is identified and present, and "psychogenic" cases where that cause is not present but the symptoms clearly are.

This idea is not merely about "real" versus "fake" cases. Some psychogenic cases could indeed turn out to be fake, but my goal is not to simply dismiss all psychogenic cases as fakes. The reason to distinguish is that they aren't going to be treatable in the same ways. Medicine to correct a biogenic case is obviously not going to work when the biological cause isn't there to treat. Therapy aimed at psychogenic cases may provide some relief to someone with a biogenic case, but is unlikely to overcome the underlying cause. So to treat a person properly, you need to know which type they have.
 
2013-07-25 11:46:05 AM  

Millennium: The primary symptoms -or at least the most obvious ones- of mental illness are states of mind and thought patterns. Those can be replicated. Given this, I think it's likely that as our understanding of mental illness improves, we will have to start distinguishing between "biogenic" cases where a typical underlying biological cause is identified and present, and "psychogenic" cases where that cause is not present but the symptoms clearly are.

This idea is not merely about "real" versus "fake" cases. Some psychogenic cases could indeed turn out to be fake, but my goal is not to simply dismiss all psychogenic cases as fakes. The reason to distinguish is that they aren't going to be treatable in the same ways. Medicine to correct a biogenic case is obviously not going to work when the biological cause isn't there to treat. Therapy aimed at psychogenic cases may provide some relief to someone with a biogenic case, but is unlikely to overcome the underlying cause. So to treat a person properly, you need to know which type they have.


Ugh.
Parties.
No fun.
Etc.
 
2013-07-25 11:54:58 AM  

Millennium: The primary symptoms -or at least the most obvious ones- of mental illness are states of mind and thought patterns. Those can be replicated. Given this, I think it's likely that as our understanding of mental illness improves, we will have to start distinguishing between "biogenic" cases where a typical underlying biological cause is identified and present, and "psychogenic" cases where that cause is not present but the symptoms clearly are.

This idea is not merely about "real" versus "fake" cases. Some psychogenic cases could indeed turn out to be fake, but my goal is not to simply dismiss all psychogenic cases as fakes. The reason to distinguish is that they aren't going to be treatable in the same ways. Medicine to correct a biogenic case is obviously not going to work when the biological cause isn't there to treat. Therapy aimed at psychogenic cases may provide some relief to someone with a biogenic case, but is unlikely to overcome the underlying cause. So to treat a person properly, you need to know which type they have.


Interesting.  But I would bet that we find along the way to your understanding, we'll start to understand that there are biological causes to nearly everything involved in mental illness.  Something like athlete's foot in conjunction with low blood sugar and HPV can lead to something that was previously thought to be bipolar disorder, or something like that.

Addiction can be extremely tricky chicken and egg question.  In the case of alcoholics, the "where did I cross the line?" question often comes up.  "Did I drink myself into alcoholism, or did an underlying existing alcoholism lead to my drinking too much?"  This question then leads down the path to genetic predisposition, but the weird thing is that some people who are seemingly not genetically predisposed become alcoholic, and some who are genetically predisposed do not become alcoholic.  The disease concept is probably one of the hardest things for people to wrap their heads around, because society says we're supposed to be able to control ourselves.  We're bad people if we don't contain our behavior.  We're moral failures if we try to and aren't able to keep our compulsions under wraps and not act on them.

I think your proposal is actually very enlightened and thought-provoking.  However, unless society and individuals get a whole lot less judgmental, those "psychogenic" folks will have a very hard time if that distinction is made.  There are already people who don't believe that certain provable physical diseases exist and feel that those who suffer from them deserve punishment.
 
2013-07-25 12:03:54 PM  
the brain is an organ just like any other.  no reason the think it can't get farked up too.  unless you're some kind of dualist that thinks our minds are ethereal magic faerie stuff... even then, the thing that translates the ethereal into the material would be an organ, and no reason to think it can't get farked up.  (my basic argument for the existence of mental illness not as a weakness, but as an ailment)
 
2013-07-25 12:06:31 PM  

pute kisses like a man: the brain is an organ just like any other.  no reason the think it can't get farked up too.  unless you're some kind of dualist that thinks our minds are ethereal magic faerie stuff... even then, the thing that translates the ethereal into the material would be an organ, and no reason to think it can't get farked up.  (my basic argument for the existence of mental illness not as a weakness, but as an ailment)


An error in the coding, sort of thing.
 
2013-07-25 12:10:50 PM  
It's only an addiction if you agree to get help. I hump damn near anything I can catch and I've avoided 9 interventions.
 
2013-07-25 12:32:35 PM  

Smoking GNU: An error in the coding, sort of thing.


Or a hardware fault
 
2013-07-25 12:33:00 PM  

pute kisses like a man: the brain is an organ just like any other.  no reason the think it can't get farked up too.  unless you're some kind of dualist that thinks our minds are ethereal magic faerie stuff... even then, the thing that translates the ethereal into the material would be an organ, and no reason to think it can't get farked up.  (my basic argument for the existence of mental illness not as a weakness, but as an ailment)


Sort of? It's difficult to account for consciousness and the role it plays in decision making. It's clear we're not merely slaves to whatever thoughts pervade our minds, whether those thoughts come from a physiological place or not, consciousness can often times still trump those instincts. Even when it comes to very base thoughts related to instincts like the desire for food, or intentional exposure to harsh conditions, our conscious mind can overcome the desire to satiate those instincts. So stating something is a disease of the mind and we have no control over our actions when confronted with these desires is a difficult proclamation, unless there is an obvious dulling of consciousness or an ability to reason.
 
2013-07-25 12:45:23 PM  
 The Penis is evil! The Penis shoots Seeds, and makes new Life to poison the Earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the Gun shoots Death and purifies the Earth of the filth of Brutals. Go forth, and kill! Zardoz has spoken.
 
2013-07-25 12:50:02 PM  
You know what is a mental disorder? Greenlighting the same information.

/unless this is a followup, which it isn't
 
2013-07-25 02:29:45 PM  

the_sidewinder: Smoking GNU: An error in the coding, sort of thing.

Or a hardware fault


i was going on hardware.  the code might be great, but some gland secretes the wrong juice and accidentally all over it. i mean, think of a person with brain damage.  some people's personalities have violently changed.  it wasn't a change of heart or soul or willpower or morality.  just a change of brain stuffs.

in my religious world that i generally keep to myself, there is a well coded spirit.  it just gets farked in the transition to the material.  (fortunately, as a goofy-assed dualist that doesn't really believe in the same thing for more than a couple minutes, i have taken the time to substantially separate the spiritual from the material.  to the point that the spiritual is so far beyond the material, it's like, for all material purposes, ineffectual... crap, now i don't believe in it any more.  back to boring materialism... another axial change in the philosophy of pute -- think it's time to go back to nihilism... or selective nihilisim [i believe in nothing* exception: bourbon tastes good]).
 
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