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2013-07-25 09:36:32 AM  
Awesome. And it still hasn't openend in Japan or China.

Now, if only we could somehow get a Dredd sequel...

It's still possible. Urban said at Comic-Con that it's up to the fans. Apparently DVD sales were fantastic for it. Maybe they could learn how to actually market it and stress it has NOTHING to do with Stallone's stinker.
 
2013-07-25 09:45:25 AM  
So I'm supposed to respect a "writer" who initially assumed Iron Man 3 did poorly, but didn't think to bother to check this?
 
2013-07-25 09:49:15 AM  
What sets it apart from all the other attempts at blockbusters: Pacific rim was good. It was well written. It had a cohesive story. Every character had a growth arc. The plot ran A leads to B leads to C. It didn't try to sell religion. It paid attention to detail. It made a set of rules and followed them throughout. And it didn't lie to the audience to make things fit. If they told you something was true in the beginning, it was true in the end.

If these "blockbusters" would scrap 5% of their effects budget to get writing as good as Pacific Rim, they'd all be making the bank they are hoping for.
 
2013-07-25 09:52:37 AM  
Oh, and... yeah. IM3 was also good. And it also made piles of money.

Same effect.
 
2013-07-25 09:54:34 AM  

WhippingBoy: So I'm supposed to respect a "writer" who initially assumed Iron Man 3 did poorly, but didn't think to bother to check this?


I also like how he compared it to grown ups two. Cause that makes a lick of sense.
 
2013-07-25 09:55:40 AM  
I'm really curious about the people who disliked it for technical reasons. It's a damn movie about giant robots fighting interdimensional aliens. The idea of giant robots being a valid defense is every bit as inane as the much-despised wall defense attempt, so what are we biatching about again?

Jebus. Just let the damn movie do its thing and turn you into a giddy eight-year-old.

That said, no, del Toro is not the greatest director ever or anything, but he has fantastic taste and imbues his films with a love of movies that is ridiculously infectious.
 
2013-07-25 10:15:03 AM  
As was discussed elsewhere:  This is essentially a live-action Anime movie.  No, the physics and other things don't make sense in a Real World.  They make sense in an Anime/Cartoon Universe.  Take it as such and enjoy the show.

"Hey, look at me, I suddenly have wings I didn't have a moment ago (and should have been using)!"
"Oh yeah, well I have a sword! (that I didn't have a moment ago and should have been using)"

Oh, and try not to picture Rick Moranis in the role of that one scientist guy if this had been made 20 years ago.
 
2013-07-25 10:17:23 AM  
I've done too much FEA and kinematic analysis to appreciate standing tanks. Maybe 10-12 foot tall standing tanks, like the origin of standing tanks in Starship Troopers, but when you have 100 foot long arms making human like motions I'm just seeing unobtainium and boiling hydraulic fluid.
 
2013-07-25 10:18:36 AM  

unlikely: What sets it apart from all the other attempts at blockbusters: Pacific rim was good. It was well written. It had a cohesive story. Every character had a growth arc. The plot ran A leads to B leads to C. It didn't try to sell religion. It paid attention to detail. It made a set of rules and followed them throughout. And it didn't lie to the audience to make things fit. If they told you something was true in the beginning, it was true in the end.

If these "blockbusters" would scrap 5% of their effects budget to get writing as good as Pacific Rim, they'd all be making the bank they are hoping for.


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Ok, I guess I have to be "that guy".  I'll agree 100% that it was a great looking movie and had exactly what most of us wanted: Giant fighting robots punching mosters in the face.  But be honest, the dialog was horrible (almost on par with Star Wars 2); outside of Idris , the acting was TV level stuff; and laughable plot holes abound.
 
2013-07-25 10:20:06 AM  
You know what I want more than a sequel to PR? I want something in the same essence as The Animatrix/Gotham Knight done for it. There is so much to explore in the period of time prior to when the movie takes place and so many Jaeger's and Kaiju that didn't get any screen time.
 
2013-07-25 10:20:25 AM  

unlikely: It was well written


Whoa whoa whoa, there's a lot to like about Pacific Rim, but let's not make it out to be more than it is.
 
2013-07-25 10:22:44 AM  

wildcardjack: I've done too much FEA and kinematic analysis to appreciate standing tanks. Maybe 10-12 foot tall standing tanks, like the origin of standing tanks in Starship Troopers, but when you have 100 foot long arms making human like motions I'm just seeing unobtainium and boiling hydraulic fluid.


So what you're saying is you don't have an imagination. Got it.
 
2013-07-25 10:27:28 AM  
I wonder if the name hurt them. Pacific Rim sounds like a romantic drama.

I never would have given the movie a thought if a friend hadn't showed me the trailer. Once I saw it, I knew it was a must see with my ten year geek in training son.
 
2013-07-25 10:34:15 AM  
I loved it. A fun flick man.
 
2013-07-25 10:37:10 AM  

saintwrathchild: unlikely: It was well written

Whoa whoa whoa, there's a lot to like about Pacific Rim, but let's not make it out to be more than it is.


My favorite part was where the giant robot with computer hardware to create a brain-link between two people and holographic displays was revealed to be ANALOG and thus impervious to an EMP blast. Plus the ending was lifted directly from Independence Day (sneak into the enemy base, nuke them).

My beef with the movie was that only the middle fight scene had the sense of scale that made it cool. The ending battle had no similar sense of scale underwater, and overall it just seemed anticlimatic. It would have been much better if they had kept the Chinese and Russian Jaegers around for the final battle, or if the first third of the movie showed us more of the early days of the Jaeger program. Hell, there's a big battle in Tokyo that is shown, and it all happens offscreen instead of giving us a view of the action from the ground. There just wasn't all that much Jaeger on Kaiju action in my opinion.
 
2013-07-25 10:38:31 AM  

UKCoolCat: unlikely: What sets it apart from all the other attempts at blockbusters: Pacific rim was good. It was well written. It had a cohesive story. Every character had a growth arc. The plot ran A leads to B leads to C. It didn't try to sell religion. It paid attention to detail. It made a set of rules and followed them throughout. And it didn't lie to the audience to make things fit. If they told you something was true in the beginning, it was true in the end.

If these "blockbusters" would scrap 5% of their effects budget to get writing as good as Pacific Rim, they'd all be making the bank they are hoping for.

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Ok, I guess I have to be "that guy".  I'll agree 100% that it was a great looking movie and had exactly what most of us wanted: Giant fighting robots punching mosters in the face.  But be honest, the dialog was horrible (almost on par with Star Wars 2); outside of Idris , the acting was TV level stuff; and laughable plot holes abound.



Many people say there were a lot of plot holes but many people fail to deliver one that wasn't addressed by the movie.  So, got any?
 
2013-07-25 10:39:27 AM  

UKCoolCat: unlikely: What sets it apart from all the other attempts at blockbusters: Pacific rim was good. It was well written. It had a cohesive story. Every character had a growth arc. The plot ran A leads to B leads to C. It didn't try to sell religion. It paid attention to detail. It made a set of rules and followed them throughout. And it didn't lie to the audience to make things fit. If they told you something was true in the beginning, it was true in the end.

If these "blockbusters" would scrap 5% of their effects budget to get writing as good as Pacific Rim, they'd all be making the bank they are hoping for.

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Ok, I guess I have to be "that guy".  I'll agree 100% that it was a great looking movie and had exactly what most of us wanted: Giant fighting robots punching mosters in the face.  But be honest, the dialog was horrible (almost on par with Star Wars 2); outside of Idris , the acting was TV level stuff; and laughable plot holes abound.


I saw "Pacific Rim" opening weekend and enjoyed the hell out of it.  But I'd call it a fun movie, not a good movie.  The monster and robot fights are amazing.  The special effects were spectacular.  It made sense why the male and female lead would be attracted to each other.  Ron Perlman and the scientists were great.  There were a lot of good jokes and gags.  But way too many of the scenes with just people talking, which comprise a fair amount of the movie, were completely flat.  It was also annoying to be introduced to all the other Jaeger pilots and only spend time with Aussie McDouche.  We barely got to see the Russians or the Chinese in or out of the cockpit,  I wanted to know more about them and see them in battle.  Their Jaeger fights were waaay too short, don't tell me how awesome and amazing these people and their mechs are and then not show me.
 
2013-07-25 10:40:38 AM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: "Hey, look at me, I suddenly have wings I didn't have a moment ago (and should have been using)!"
"Oh yeah, well I have a sword! (that I didn't have a moment ago and should have been using)"


Everyone knew they had to have a progressive knife. It's the only weapon worth a damn in the end.
 
2013-07-25 10:44:25 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: I wonder if the name hurt them. Pacific Rim sounds like a romantic drama.

I never would have given the movie a thought if a friend hadn't showed me the trailer. Once I saw it, I knew it was a must see with my ten year geek in training son.


There was a lot of issues with the advertising of Pacific Rim that had to due with Warner Bros. and Legendary. The contract between the two ended last month and WB wanted Pacific Rim to fail so that they could re-negotiate a new contract in favor of them and so that they wouldn't go elsewhere(Universal is looking to be the new studio Legendary will end up partnering up with). As a result WB hardly put any money into advertising the movie(less than $10 Million IIRC).
 
2013-07-25 10:52:18 AM  

lousyskater: Copperbelly watersnake: I wonder if the name hurt them. Pacific Rim sounds like a romantic drama.

I never would have given the movie a thought if a friend hadn't showed me the trailer. Once I saw it, I knew it was a must see with my ten year geek in training son.

There was a lot of issues with the advertising of Pacific Rim that had to due with Warner Bros. and Legendary. The contract between the two ended last month and WB wanted Pacific Rim to fail so that they could re-negotiate a new contract in favor of them and so that they wouldn't go elsewhere(Universal is looking to be the new studio Legendary will end up partnering up with). As a result WB hardly put any money into advertising the movie(less than $10 Million IIRC).


Well that sucks, but it does explain why I really didn't see any advertising for it until AFTER its opening weekend.  The only reason I saw it opening weekend and was anticipating its release was because I got the trailer when I saw "The Hobbit."  Come to think of it, since "The Hobbit" I've seen "Oblivion," "Star Trek:  Into Darkness," "Iron Man 3," "Django Unchained," and "Man of Steel."  I think I only got the "Pacific Rim" trailer in front of one or two of those movies.
 
2013-07-25 10:54:56 AM  

lousyskater: Copperbelly watersnake: I wonder if the name hurt them. Pacific Rim sounds like a romantic drama.

I never would have given the movie a thought if a friend hadn't showed me the trailer. Once I saw it, I knew it was a must see with my ten year geek in training son.

There was a lot of issues with the advertising of Pacific Rim that had to due with Warner Bros. and Legendary. The contract between the two ended last month and WB wanted Pacific Rim to fail so that they could re-negotiate a new contract in favor of them and so that they wouldn't go elsewhere(Universal is looking to be the new studio Legendary will end up partnering up with). As a result WB hardly put any money into advertising the movie(less than $10 Million IIRC).


Holy crap, that's crazy. Didn't Disney spend over $100 millon in advertising on The Lone Ranger?
 
2013-07-25 11:04:41 AM  

scottydoesntknow: wildcardjack: I've done too much FEA and kinematic analysis to appreciate standing tanks. Maybe 10-12 foot tall standing tanks, like the origin of standing tanks in Starship Troopers, but when you have 100 foot long arms making human like motions I'm just seeing unobtainium and boiling hydraulic fluid.

So what you're saying is you don't have an imagination. Got it.


Don't be so harsh. I can understand where he's coming from. Being a programmer and general computer nerd I can't watch shows that try to half ass it on the tech stuff.

"Sir! The terrorists are hacking our nets!"

"Good God! How many?!"

"Our entire sub-extranet has gone offline and the tertiary RAID arrays on our extra-sub net is at 30%! Only the TCP-gigabit clustered Gibson is still up!"

"Quick! We need to get a salted hash on our remaining RAMs before they can get past our firewall! Flood all the proxies with data-script and shut off the hexadecimal ports!!! YOU HAVE YOUR ORDERS!!!"
 
2013-07-25 11:05:28 AM  
No surprise about the international market.. the action needs no translation, and the themes were pretty universal.
 
2013-07-25 11:06:34 AM  

xalres: scottydoesntknow: wildcardjack: I've done too much FEA and kinematic analysis to appreciate standing tanks. Maybe 10-12 foot tall standing tanks, like the origin of standing tanks in Starship Troopers, but when you have 100 foot long arms making human like motions I'm just seeing unobtainium and boiling hydraulic fluid.

So what you're saying is you don't have an imagination. Got it.

Don't be so harsh. I can understand where he's coming from. Being a programmer and general computer nerd I can't watch shows that try to half ass it on the tech stuff.

"Sir! The terrorists are hacking our nets!"

"Good God! How many?!"

"Our entire sub-extranet has gone offline and the tertiary RAID arrays on our extra-sub net is at 30%! Only the TCP-gigabit clustered Gibson is still up!"

"Quick! We need to get a salted hash on our remaining RAMs before they can get past our firewall! Flood all the proxies with data-script and shut off the hexadecimal ports!!! YOU HAVE YOUR ORDERS!!!"


Reading this almost put me into a murderous rage, but I'm not sure why.  Is it because this was used in a terrible movie or I feel like this COULD be used in a blockbuster movie?
 
2013-07-25 11:08:29 AM  
As far as one Jaeger being EMP resistant.. well, if it's nuclear powered itself, wouldn't it be pulse shielded to protect against itself?  Perhaps.
 
2013-07-25 11:08:48 AM  
Oh and for the "digital vs analog" part with the Jaegrs I believe it had to do with the power system they were using, and nothing more.

I remember reading someplace that Gipsy and the older machines used nuclear reactors (confirmed by movie) but the newer ones like Stryker Eureka had a different form of power, but I'll be damned if I remember what it was.  I think it was in some of the promo material floating around online.
 
2013-07-25 11:12:41 AM  

Alphax: As far as one Jaeger being EMP resistant.. well, if it's nuclear powered itself, wouldn't it be pulse shielded to protect against itself?  Perhaps.


The EMP blast never made it to Gypsy Danger (it was still in the hanger bay). If Leatherback (the kaiju with the organic EMP) had another chance to unleash the blast it probably would've knocked Gypsy Danger offline too. Good thing the first action Gypsy took when it came in was to rip the EMP weapon off it's head and chunk it as far as possible.

Jax's throwaway line about Gypsy Danger being nuclear powered really had nothing to do with it. He would've been better off saying "We've still got one functioning Jaeger, let's get 'em!"
 
2013-07-25 11:13:40 AM  
I just want to point out that "TV level acting" isn't a slight anymore, considering Breaking Bad, Justified, et al have better writing/acting than any movie most years.
 
2013-07-25 11:18:15 AM  

nitefallz: Oh and for the "digital vs analog" part with the Jaegrs I believe it had to do with the power system they were using, and nothing more.

I remember reading someplace that Gipsy and the older machines used nuclear reactors (confirmed by movie) but the newer ones like Stryker Eureka had a different form of power, but I'll be damned if I remember what it was.  I think it was in some of the promo material floating around online.


It is mentioned in movie that the Chinese jaeger (forgot name) has "50 diesel generators."
 
2013-07-25 11:19:26 AM  

xalres: scottydoesntknow: wildcardjack: I've done too much FEA and kinematic analysis to appreciate standing tanks. Maybe 10-12 foot tall standing tanks, like the origin of standing tanks in Starship Troopers, but when you have 100 foot long arms making human like motions I'm just seeing unobtainium and boiling hydraulic fluid.

So what you're saying is you don't have an imagination. Got it.

Don't be so harsh. I can understand where he's coming from. Being a programmer and general computer nerd I can't watch shows that try to half ass it on the tech stuff.


This wasn't a half-ass attempt though. I get where you're coming from (like Die Hard 4's attempt at "shutting down all the internets!"). You've got 250 ft tall robots trying to beat down 250 ft tall monsters, you've gotta check some of the real world physics and mechanics at the door.

His comment made it sound like he can't enjoy any movie where you've gotta suspend some disbelief.
 
2013-07-25 11:21:04 AM  

dsmith42: nitefallz: Oh and for the "digital vs analog" part with the Jaegrs I believe it had to do with the power system they were using, and nothing more.

I remember reading someplace that Gipsy and the older machines used nuclear reactors (confirmed by movie) but the newer ones like Stryker Eureka had a different form of power, but I'll be damned if I remember what it was.  I think it was in some of the promo material floating around online.

It is mentioned in movie that the Chinese jaeger (forgot name) has "50 diesel generators."


That was Striker I believe, "50 diesel engines per muscle strand."
 
2013-07-25 11:34:58 AM  

scottydoesntknow: xalres: scottydoesntknow: wildcardjack: I've done too much FEA and kinematic analysis to appreciate standing tanks. Maybe 10-12 foot tall standing tanks, like the origin of standing tanks in Starship Troopers, but when you have 100 foot long arms making human like motions I'm just seeing unobtainium and boiling hydraulic fluid.

So what you're saying is you don't have an imagination. Got it.

Don't be so harsh. I can understand where he's coming from. Being a programmer and general computer nerd I can't watch shows that try to half ass it on the tech stuff.

This wasn't a half-ass attempt though. I get where you're coming from (like Die Hard 4's attempt at "shutting down all the internets!"). You've got 250 ft tall robots trying to beat down 250 ft tall monsters, you've gotta check some of the real world physics and mechanics at the door.

His comment made it sound like he can't enjoy any movie where you've gotta suspend some disbelief.


Yep. I remember watching some of the featurettes about the special effects of the robots and the critters. Wayne Barlowe described how he tried to keep the monsters he designed grounded in the real world but at a certain point he just had to say "Fark it!". Organic beings that big on a a planet with Earth's gravity simply couldn't exist. They'd have to be something like 80% bone mass just to be able to keep from collapsing in on themselves. The head robot guy said something similar.

They also said they tried to keep the water effects as realistic as possible but in the computer simulations they used they had to only take into account the first ten feet of water otherwise you wouldn't be able to see a damn thing because of the amount of water that'd be sloshing around.

nitefallz: Reading this almost put me into a murderous rage, but I'm not sure why.  Is it because this was used in a terrible movie or I feel like this COULD be used in a blockbuster movie?


The spirit of my comment was lifted from Die Hard 4. If you haven't seen it...get drunk enough that your brain shuts off. After that it's a highly enjoyable action bang bang movie. Just try not to read too much into the technobabble.
 
2013-07-25 11:54:45 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: I wonder if the name hurt them. Pacific Rim sounds like a romantic drama.


I can't get the movie poster out of my head of a sunset beach with a proud standing shirtless kajiu and Gypsy Danger in a sexy little number lying against his(/her?) leg as the wave crash around them. You'd think the name might have garnered some accidental income from the ladies.
 
2013-07-25 11:57:20 AM  
 
2013-07-25 12:44:11 PM  

Mad_Radhu: saintwrathchild: unlikely: It was well written

Whoa whoa whoa, there's a lot to like about Pacific Rim, but let's not make it out to be more than it is.

My favorite part was where the giant robot with computer hardware to create a brain-link between two people and holographic displays was revealed to be ANALOG and thus impervious to an EMP blast. Plus the ending was lifted directly from Independence Day (sneak into the enemy base, nuke them).

My beef with the movie was that only the middle fight scene had the sense of scale that made it cool. The ending battle had no similar sense of scale underwater, and overall it just seemed anticlimatic. It would have been much better if they had kept the Chinese and Russian Jaegers around for the final battle, or if the first third of the movie showed us more of the early days of the Jaeger program. Hell, there's a big battle in Tokyo that is shown, and it all happens offscreen instead of giving us a view of the action from the ground. There just wasn't all that much Jaeger on Kaiju action in my opinion.


Considering how much it cost to just get the fights you got in the movie, I think you're asking for a bit much.  In essence you're asking for them to have spent another $50-100 million on this movie.

And honestly I don't know how you can be disappointed by the amount of action in that movie.  It was 60% action scenes.  If you want any character development at all you can't go much beyond that.
 
2013-07-25 12:55:04 PM  

Mad_Radhu: My favorite part was where the giant robot with computer hardware to create a brain-link between two people and holographic displays was revealed to be ANALOG and thus impervious to an EMP blast. Plus the ending was lifted directly from Independence Day (sneak into the enemy base, nuke them).

My beef with the movie was that only the middle fight scene had the sense of scale that made it cool. The ending battle had no similar sense of scale underwater, and overall it just seemed anticlimatic. It would have been much better if they had kept the Chinese and Russian Jaegers around for the final battle, or if the first third of the movie showed us more of the early days of the Jaeger program. Hell, there's a big battle in Tokyo that is shown, and it all happens offscreen instead of giving us a view of the action from the ground. There just wasn't all that much Jaeger on Kaiju action in my opinion.


It just seems mean and counterproductive to pick apart the techno-babble (as has been pointed out already). In terms of story, I actually thought it started really strong: a modern Godzilla-style manifestation/reaction to world events of the last 5 years about people fighting a sudden and barely winning battle against uncontrollable forces of an unfathomably epic scale (and bringing a new interpretation of "too big to fail"). The two pilot interlinking is one of several del Toro hallmarks in this movie: a unique motif and fleshed out storytelling device in sync with the overall theme that lends some substance and heart to an otherwise typical genre movie. All of this took place in like the first 5 minutes too--it cut right to the chase with the backstory and dived head-on into the main character's dilemma, which I appreciated.

But then 5:01 into the movie, 20 anime tropes and five story lines burst through the door and wedged themselves in with a sledgehammer, xeroxed pages of "Creature Features for Dummies," and a stopwatch. Blew my whole cerebral experience to shreds. Oh well. After about ten minutes, I shut my headache off and basked in the breathtaking special effects and giant toad-spanking that I was promised, no more no less, and it was still a decent matinee (as opposed to anything by Michael Bay ever). I'd definitely go see its sequel.

So, yeah, moar robots plz.

/Charlie Day + Gottlieb = R2D2 + C3P0
//Gottlieb even walks funny!
 
2013-07-25 01:33:15 PM  

scottydoesntknow: It's still possible. Urban said at Comic-Con that it's up to the fans. Apparently DVD sales were fantastic for it. Maybe they could learn how to actually market it and stress it has NOTHING to do with Stallone's stinker.


Oh and just in case people reading this thread haven't, go rent or buy Dredd. It's a staggeringly good action movie that was a real labor of love on a deceptively shoestring budget yet criminally unattended while in theaters (which I'm also guilty of and regret). Not for the squeamish though.
 
2013-07-25 01:45:09 PM  
If I wanted to watch a movie about people piloting gigantic robots defending the earth from aliens, I'd watch 90's anime.
 
2013-07-25 02:26:17 PM  
Thank god. I haven't been able to afford the theaters this month, but I definitely plan on seeing it big screen. I was a little worried that it's lack-luster box office would deter studios from making more like this. Hopefully this helps persuade them.
 
2013-07-25 03:02:53 PM  
As someone who grew up on the Saturday afternoon Godzilla/Gamera/50's monster flicks, I thought it was very good. Planning on going to see it again this weekend with my brother (will be his 3rd time). Even my wife and mom and other relatives I talked into seeing it liked it.

IRT the plot holes/writing/etc....dude it's an action flick, get over it. We're paying for watching giant robots and monsters beating the crap out of each other while actors spout technobabble and we sit in an air conditioned theater. Still better than Bayformers or other stuff today. Heck, the plot in PR makes more sense and has less stupidity on the part of the characters than Prometheus' did.
 
2013-07-25 04:11:04 PM  
Even RedLetterMedia liked it, and they didn't like Man of Steel or Star Trek Into Darkness.
 
2013-07-25 04:47:40 PM  

nitefallz: UKCoolCat: unlikely: What sets it apart from all the other attempts at blockbusters: Pacific rim was good. It was well written. It had a cohesive story. Every character had a growth arc. The plot ran A leads to B leads to C. It didn't try to sell religion. It paid attention to detail. It made a set of rules and followed them throughout. And it didn't lie to the audience to make things fit. If they told you something was true in the beginning, it was true in the end.

If these "blockbusters" would scrap 5% of their effects budget to get writing as good as Pacific Rim, they'd all be making the bank they are hoping for.

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Ok, I guess I have to be "that guy".  I'll agree 100% that it was a great looking movie and had exactly what most of us wanted: Giant fighting robots punching mosters in the face.  But be honest, the dialog was horrible (almost on par with Star Wars 2); outside of Idris , the acting was TV level stuff; and laughable plot holes abound.


Many people say there were a lot of plot holes but many people fail to deliver one that wasn't addressed by the movie.  So, got any?


If the portal only opened for kaiju DNA and that's why the jaeger had to ride the dying class 5 through, why did it let the escape pod cross?
 
2013-07-25 04:51:31 PM  

Ned Stark: If the portal only opened for kaiju DNA and that's why the jaeger had to ride the dying class 5 through, why did it let the escape pod cross?


Ehhh I chalked it up to anything can go through one-way (from the anteverse to earth), but to come back in, you've gotta have the KNA (from earth back to anteverse). I doubt the aliens planned on anything actually coming through, so there was no reason to design their side with the same checkpoint.
 
2013-07-25 05:01:33 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Ned Stark: If the portal only opened for kaiju DNA and that's why the jaeger had to ride the dying class 5 through, why did it let the escape pod cross?

Ehhh I chalked it up to anything can go through one-way (from the anteverse to earth), but to come back in, you've gotta have the KNA (from earth back to anteverse). I doubt the aliens planned on anything actually coming through, so there was no reason to design their side with the same checkpoint.


Wait, then why let it open for anything from earths side? Did they want their monsters to come back?
 
2013-07-25 05:13:34 PM  

Ned Stark: scottydoesntknow: Ned Stark: If the portal only opened for kaiju DNA and that's why the jaeger had to ride the dying class 5 through, why did it let the escape pod cross?

Ehhh I chalked it up to anything can go through one-way (from the anteverse to earth), but to come back in, you've gotta have the KNA (from earth back to anteverse). I doubt the aliens planned on anything actually coming through, so there was no reason to design their side with the same checkpoint.

Wait, then why let it open for anything from earths side? Did they want their monsters to come back?


The end goal was wiping out humanity to take the earth for themselves. I'd guess they'd want the ability to come back if need be to grab any extra suitcases and such (the masters, not the monsters). No one makes a move in one go if they don't have to.
 
2013-07-25 07:43:00 PM  
My favorite part was where the giant robot with computer hardware to create a brain-link between two people and holographic displays was revealed to be ANALOG and thus impervious to an EMP blast.

That plot line was easily the biggest clunker in the movie. That and somehow nuclear and analog are related.
 
2013-07-25 08:10:38 PM  

Don't Lag Me Bro: My favorite part was where the giant robot with computer hardware to create a brain-link between two people and holographic displays was revealed to be ANALOG and thus impervious to an EMP blast.

That plot line was easily the biggest clunker in the movie. That and somehow nuclear and analog are related.


Hollywood science and all that. No worse than 75% of the lines in any version of Star Trek.

Would have made more sense with a comment along the lines of "earlier Jagers were EMP hardened" or such. (apparently in the tie in graphic novels they used tactical nukes against the kaiju at times)
 
2013-07-25 08:29:28 PM  
Saw it yesterday. It was a good movie. Highly recommended.
 
2013-07-25 11:53:08 PM  

Ned Stark: scottydoesntknow: Ned Stark: If the portal only opened for kaiju DNA and that's why the jaeger had to ride the dying class 5 through, why did it let the escape pod cross?

Ehhh I chalked it up to anything can go through one-way (from the anteverse to earth), but to come back in, you've gotta have the KNA (from earth back to anteverse). I doubt the aliens planned on anything actually coming through, so there was no reason to design their side with the same checkpoint.

Wait, then why let it open for anything from earths side? Did they want their monsters to come back?



I don't think they wanted the monsters back. They were manufactured weapons designed to do one thing. Once humanity was destroyed the doors would stay open and the aliens could get whatever they wanted from the planet. Or live on it, I dunno.

Until the triple event, the doorway hadn't stayed open long enough. Maybe not only did it take time to open the gateway that wide, it took equal amount of time to close it.
 
2013-07-26 09:00:27 AM  

Don't Lag Me Bro: My favorite part was where the giant robot with computer hardware to create a brain-link between two people and holographic displays was revealed to be ANALOG and thus impervious to an EMP blast.

That plot line was easily the biggest clunker in the movie. That and somehow nuclear and analog are related.


Except it's actually got some science behind it, which is more than most movies can say: Two Heads Better To Control Simulated Spacecraft
 
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