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(Chicago Trib)   With the Cubs sitting him last night with extra innings, looks like Alfonso Soriano is heading back to the Bronx   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 33
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2013-07-25 10:31:24 AM
I've got a source in Hackensack that says he isn't.
 
2013-07-25 10:33:23 AM
I think the thing I like most about this article is that nobody seems to be being an asshole...
 
2013-07-25 11:00:32 AM
Cubs said the trade was absolutely hear say a day ago, then again its ESPN who has been all over the sox/yankees as for trade deadline.
 
2013-07-25 11:55:36 AM
Cool. Cano needs some competition at 2B.
 
2013-07-25 12:51:43 PM
Sign me up for a guy that is 37 and has been batting .250 for the last five years.
 
2013-07-25 01:02:47 PM

MtnByker: Sign me up for a guy that is 37 and has been batting .250 for the last five years.


He still goes on his crazy hot streaks though. Frankly, I'd be surprised if the Cubs could get more than a sack of peanuts for him at this point because of his crazy contract.

/and Junior Lake has been absolutely killing the ball since his call-up
//need to clear an OF spot for him somehow
 
2013-07-25 01:17:52 PM

WTF Indeed: I've got a source in Hackensack that says he isn't.


I see what you did there
 
2013-07-25 02:47:25 PM

Big Beef Burrito: Cool. Cano needs some competition at 2B.


He plays outfield now.

germ78: MtnByker: Sign me up for a guy that is 37 and has been batting .250 for the last five years.

He still goes on his crazy hot streaks though. Frankly, I'd be surprised if the Cubs could get more than a sack of peanuts for him at this point because of his crazy contract.

/and Junior Lake has been absolutely killing the ball since his call-up
//need to clear an OF spot for him somehow


Yep. And currently Soriano is on one of his crazy hot streaks. Which makes it even more strange that the Cubs would sit him.
 
2013-07-25 02:53:46 PM

ongbok: Big Beef Burrito: Cool. Cano needs some competition at 2B.

He plays outfield now.

germ78: MtnByker: Sign me up for a guy that is 37 and has been batting .250 for the last five years.

He still goes on his crazy hot streaks though. Frankly, I'd be surprised if the Cubs could get more than a sack of peanuts for him at this point because of his crazy contract.

/and Junior Lake has been absolutely killing the ball since his call-up
//need to clear an OF spot for him somehow

Yep. And currently Soriano is on one of his crazy hot streaks. Which makes it even more strange that the Cubs would sit him.


They really need to lose him though. His fielding is among the worst I've ever seen, his hot streaks don't balance out his annual performance, and last year was the only year he earned his salary.
 
2013-07-25 02:56:06 PM

ongbok: Big Beef Burrito: Cool. Cano needs some competition at 2B.

He plays outfield now.


Only because he's blocked by Darwin Barney. Yankees don't have that problem.
 
2013-07-25 02:57:12 PM

SkylineRecords: ongbok: Big Beef Burrito: Cool. Cano needs some competition at 2B.

He plays outfield now.

germ78: MtnByker: Sign me up for a guy that is 37 and has been batting .250 for the last five years.

He still goes on his crazy hot streaks though. Frankly, I'd be surprised if the Cubs could get more than a sack of peanuts for him at this point because of his crazy contract.

/and Junior Lake has been absolutely killing the ball since his call-up
//need to clear an OF spot for him somehow

Yep. And currently Soriano is on one of his crazy hot streaks. Which makes it even more strange that the Cubs would sit him.

They really need to lose him though. His fielding is among the worst I've ever seen, his hot streaks don't balance out his annual performance, and last year was the only year he earned his salary.


Yep they do, the only problem with unloading him is his salary. From what I read a few days ago that was the only problem they had with the Yankees. They were trying to come to an agreement on how much of his salary the Cubs were going to have to cover.
 
2013-07-25 02:59:38 PM

Big Beef Burrito: ongbok: Big Beef Burrito: Cool. Cano needs some competition at 2B.

He plays outfield now.

Only because he's blocked by Darwin Barney. Yankees don't have that problem.


He has played outfield just about the whole time he has been with the Cubs. In fact that was the source of a major controversy when he first signed with the Cubs, the temper tantrum that he threw when he was moved to outfield. And that was long before Barney.
 
2013-07-25 03:20:29 PM

SkylineRecords: ongbok: Big Beef Burrito: Cool. Cano needs some competition at 2B.

He plays outfield now.

germ78: MtnByker: Sign me up for a guy that is 37 and has been batting .250 for the last five years.

He still goes on his crazy hot streaks though. Frankly, I'd be surprised if the Cubs could get more than a sack of peanuts for him at this point because of his crazy contract.

/and Junior Lake has been absolutely killing the ball since his call-up
//need to clear an OF spot for him somehow

Yep. And currently Soriano is on one of his crazy hot streaks. Which makes it even more strange that the Cubs would sit him.

They really need to lose him though. His fielding is among the worst I've ever seen, his hot streaks don't balance out his annual performance, and last year was the only year he earned his salary.


His fielding has gotten a LOT better in the last two years.  Len Kasper says it's because he comes in and puts in a lot of extra work at it.  He's made a lot of strides at taking good routes on the ball and has always had a good arm for throwing guys out.

He makes a lot of sense for any team in 'win now' mode, provided the Cubbies eat most of the salary.  Which would still be fine; they have to pay that money regardless, and ANY money the Yankees would pay would be a relief.  As long as the Cubs can get a couple of prospects for him, it makes no sense to keep him.
 
2013-07-25 04:36:57 PM
I hadn't realized how long Soriano had been a Cub.  The guy has amassed more than half of his MLB service time in Chicago.  That just doesn't look right, but I guess it goes to show how long periods of irrelevance can slip under the radar.
 
2013-07-25 04:51:10 PM

Super Chronic: I hadn't realized how long Soriano had been a Cub.  The guy has amassed more than half of his MLB service time in Chicago.  That just doesn't look right, but I guess it goes to show how long periods of irrelevance can slip under the radar.


I wouldn't say irrelevance.. a year hadn't gone by where I hadn't heard a Cubs fan complaining about his contract
 
2013-07-25 07:53:54 PM

ongbok: Big Beef Burrito: ongbok: Big Beef Burrito: Cool. Cano needs some competition at 2B.

He plays outfield now.

Only because he's blocked by Darwin Barney. Yankees don't have that problem.

He has played outfield just about the whole time he has been with the Cubs. In fact that was the source of a major controversy when he first signed with the Cubs, the temper tantrum that he threw when he was moved to outfield. And that was long before Barney.


Soriano moved to the outfield when he was with Washington. When he came to the Cubs, he insisted on playing center and batting leadoff, neither of which lasted very long.
 
2013-07-25 09:00:24 PM
Soriano has waived his no trade clause, so the deal is all but done. Cubs are getting "a lower tier pitching prospect" in return.
 
2013-07-25 09:11:48 PM
Anyone find it ironic Chicago just got 500m for a new stadium? but they just let go garza and soriano?
 
2013-07-25 09:53:20 PM

Misconduc: Anyone find it ironic Chicago just got 500m for a new stadium? but they just let go garza and soriano?


It isn't public money... so no.
 
2013-07-25 10:45:17 PM
As a fan who has disagreed with his acquirement from the very first day I heard about his outrageous contract all I have to say is, well........bye.
 
2013-07-26 01:44:21 AM
Yankee fan here. As long as he has a pulse, he will be able to hit better than anyone currently on our team with the exception of Cano, Gardner, and Ichiro.
 
2013-07-26 01:56:22 AM

NYCNative: Yankee fan here. As long as he has a pulse, he will be able to hit better than anyone currently on our team with the exception of Cano, Gardner, and Ichiro.


Hey, Austin Romine had 3 hits today!
 
2013-07-26 02:42:10 AM

germ78: He still goes on his crazy hot streaks though. Frankly, I'd be surprised if the Cubs could get more than a sack of peanuts for him at this point because of his crazy contract.


There's only 1 more year left on it after this one. And it's the Yankees: They spend more than that for their 5th starter.
 
2013-07-26 05:00:37 AM

bacongood: Misconduc: Anyone find it ironic Chicago just got 500m for a new stadium? but they just let go garza and soriano?

It isn't public money... so no.


And the Trib never put a dime into rehabbing Wrigley, not even when chunks of concrete started falling on the terrace seats.
 
2013-07-26 08:46:59 AM

gsiofa: bacongood: Misconduc: Anyone find it ironic Chicago just got 500m for a new stadium? but they just let go garza and soriano?

It isn't public money... so no.

And the Trib never put a dime into rehabbing Wrigley, not even when chunks of concrete started falling on the terrace seats.


I've been a Cubs fan since I was 8 years old (Andre Dawson's MVP year), and this is the most excited I've ever been overall abut the team.  They're finally catching up to other teams as far as office personnel, scouting and developing, and using their ballpark to generate revenue.  Also, they have a management team that can identify and exploit market conditions, like what they just pulled with the international signing pool.

I've been saying since the day they hired Epstein that we are FINALLY going to get a real, honest to god, big boy baseball team on the North Side.   I hear a lot of the local media talking about maybe 2015.  I don't think it will be that soon.  I'm thinking more like 2018, we'll see a team like the Cardinals are now, or the Braves were in the 90s. Always right there.

Frankly, given that out of my 34 years of life, the team has only been good 6 times, I can wait.
 
2013-07-26 09:48:12 AM

Orgasmatron138: gsiofa: bacongood: Misconduc: Anyone find it ironic Chicago just got 500m for a new stadium? but they just let go garza and soriano?

It isn't public money... so no.

And the Trib never put a dime into rehabbing Wrigley, not even when chunks of concrete started falling on the terrace seats.

I've been a Cubs fan since I was 8 years old (Andre Dawson's MVP year), and this is the most excited I've ever been overall abut the team.  They're finally catching up to other teams as far as office personnel, scouting and developing, and using their ballpark to generate revenue.  Also, they have a management team that can identify and exploit market conditions, like what they just pulled with the international signing pool.

I've been saying since the day they hired Epstein that we are FINALLY going to get a real, honest to god, big boy baseball team on the North Side.   I hear a lot of the local media talking about maybe 2015.  I don't think it will be that soon.  I'm thinking more like 2018, we'll see a team like the Cardinals are now, or the Braves were in the 90s. Always right there.

Frankly, given that out of my 34 years of life, the team has only been good 6 times, I can wait.


I'm with you, though I can picture an above .500 time in 2015. By that time, it is possible there will be a solid infield that has been playing together for a few years, depth to infield in the minors, and a platoon outfield (good for Wrigley). The big question marks I still see are with starting pitching, though Alberto Cabrera's K/BB is insane.

Still hate the video screen they want in left field. It's f'ing huge. I am hopeful they can can blend it into the park as well as the video panel in right.
 
2013-07-26 12:48:02 PM

gsiofa: Orgasmatron138: gsiofa: bacongood: Misconduc: Anyone find it ironic Chicago just got 500m for a new stadium? but they just let go garza and soriano?

It isn't public money... so no.

And the Trib never put a dime into rehabbing Wrigley, not even when chunks of concrete started falling on the terrace seats.

I've been a Cubs fan since I was 8 years old (Andre Dawson's MVP year), and this is the most excited I've ever been overall abut the team.  They're finally catching up to other teams as far as office personnel, scouting and developing, and using their ballpark to generate revenue.  Also, they have a management team that can identify and exploit market conditions, like what they just pulled with the international signing pool.

I've been saying since the day they hired Epstein that we are FINALLY going to get a real, honest to god, big boy baseball team on the North Side.   I hear a lot of the local media talking about maybe 2015.  I don't think it will be that soon.  I'm thinking more like 2018, we'll see a team like the Cardinals are now, or the Braves were in the 90s. Always right there.

Frankly, given that out of my 34 years of life, the team has only been good 6 times, I can wait.

I'm with you, though I can picture an above .500 time in 2015. By that time, it is possible there will be a solid infield that has been playing together for a few years, depth to infield in the minors, and a platoon outfield (good for Wrigley). The big question marks I still see are with starting pitching, though Alberto Cabrera's K/BB is insane.

Still hate the video screen they want in left field. It's f'ing huge. I am hopeful they can can blend it into the park as well as the video panel in right.


I think that's where I differ from a lot of Cubs fans.  I want a more modern park, and I would have been happy with a new one.
 
2013-07-26 01:06:58 PM
Wow, so the Cubs got the Yanks to pick up 6.8 million of Sori's contract, AND they get a prospect that can hit 100 mph (rated 12th in the Yanks organization).

Given what the Cubs did in the international market this year, and the fact that they beat other teams to the punch by dealing Garza (for a great package of prospects) makes me very happy with Cubs management this year.
 
2013-07-26 02:59:48 PM

Orgasmatron138: Wow, so the Cubs got the Yanks to pick up 6.8 million of Sori's contract, AND they get a prospect that can hit 100 mph (rated 12th in the Yanks organization).

Given what the Cubs did in the international market this year, and the fact that they beat other teams to the punch by dealing Garza (for a great package of prospects) makes me very happy with Cubs management this year.


That's what's pleased me the most about these moves: they're being proactive and making the first moves so that all the best prospects are in play. Not sitting back until the deadline looms and several trades have been made, limiting the pool of prospects and number of trade partners available.

/and a big sloppy kiss to the Oakland A's for possibly bidding up the price on Garza because of looming concerns about Colon's availability
 
2013-07-26 04:22:30 PM
Too bad they're trading him now, I'd like to see him get his 2,000th hit with the Cubs.
 
2013-07-26 04:25:53 PM

germ78: Not sitting back until the deadline looms and several trades have been made, limiting the pool of prospects and number of trade partners available.


/mutters under breath about Rueben Amaro, Jr
 
2013-07-26 05:24:32 PM

Orgasmatron138: I think that's where I differ from a lot of Cubs fans.  I want a more modern park, and I would have been happy with a new one.


I would rather see a new park, like you, but if they stay in the 100-year-old one don't destroy it like Soldier Field.

germ78: Orgasmatron138: Wow, so the Cubs got the Yanks to pick up 6.8 million of Sori's contract, AND they get a prospect that can hit 100 mph (rated 12th in the Yanks organization).

Given what the Cubs did in the international market this year, and the fact that they beat other teams to the punch by dealing Garza (for a great package of prospects) makes me very happy with Cubs management this year.

That's what's pleased me the most about these moves: they're being proactive and making the first moves so that all the best prospects are in play. Not sitting back until the deadline looms and several trades have been made, limiting the pool of prospects and number of trade partners available.


Indeed they have done well. This Soriano trade has me wondering a bit about Black. 100mph is nice, but how are his mechanics? He had Tommy John surgery while still in high school. I think I would have rather seen Chase Whitley part of the mix, but we'll see in a few years.
 
2013-07-26 06:07:03 PM
Tonight's Yankee lineup:

8 Gardner
9 Suzuki
4 Cano
7 Soriano
3 Overbay
6 Nunez
0 Hafner
5 Lillibridge
2 Romine
 
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