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(Sky.com)   A train in Spain now lies mainly all over the place near the city of Santiago de Compostela, many dead and wounded   (news.sky.com) divider line 102
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2013-07-24 08:30:10 PM  

Dr.Zom: "Witnesses describe a giant explosion." - BBC

Basque separatists?


They don't usually set out to kill this many all at once.
 
2013-07-24 08:37:48 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Dr.Zom: "Witnesses describe a giant explosion." - BBC

Basque separatists?

They don't usually set out to kill this many all at once.


Also looks like most of the armed Basque groups have called it a day, which I did not know.

Well, I imagine whoever is responsible will have his picture on the cover of Rodante Piedrasoon enough.
 
2013-07-24 08:39:02 PM  

walkerhound: What an antiquated mode of transportation.


You're right. It's a good thing airplanes never crash.  Oh....wait.
 
2013-07-24 08:39:21 PM  
Anyone know if this was a high-speed train, or just an ordinary metro or commuter?

There's kind of a raging debate in U.S. rail circles these days about the best safety practice for high speed railcars.  The Federal Rail Agency is old-school and wants 'em built like tanks, or more accurately, like body-on-frame trucks... which makes them heavy, expensive, and slow.   The other camp favors the lightweight, monocoque-with-crumple-zone approach that has worked well in passenger automobiles.   This sad accident is likely to feed into the debate...
 
2013-07-24 08:43:04 PM  

EddyKilowatt: Anyone know if this was a high-speed train, or just an ordinary metro or commuter?


This was a high-speed train.
 
2013-07-24 08:43:08 PM  

Crudbucket: I just finished the Camino de Santiago a couple weeks ago and I passed by that train station twice, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/great trip, but Spanish food sucks.


Say what now?

REAL paella.  97 varieties of ham.  Tapas.

What didn't you like?
 
2013-07-24 09:00:56 PM  

YoOjo: Popcorn Johnny: At least 35 now.

Forty according to the BBC, where this story now has priority over the nonsense about some fat Royal biatch that did a pink shiat.


I got up this morning and saw on Channel 7 Sydney's Sunrise show the leading story was the royal baby has been given a name. The train carnage was a minor aside.
 
2013-07-24 09:15:46 PM  
Up to 60 dead now.
 
2013-07-24 09:25:20 PM  
Where in the world is Camino Del Santiago?
 
2013-07-24 09:26:29 PM  

EddyKilowatt: Anyone know if this was a high-speed train, or just an ordinary metro or commuter?

There's kind of a raging debate in U.S. rail circles these days about the best safety practice for high speed railcars.  The Federal Rail Agency is old-school and wants 'em built like tanks, or more accurately, like body-on-frame trucks... which makes them heavy, expensive, and slow.   The other camp favors the lightweight, monocoque-with-crumple-zone approach that has worked well in passenger automobiles.   This sad accident is likely to feed into the debate...


It was a medium speed (by Spanish/European terms) train.  The Talgo train/locomotive combo in this accident was capable of up to 250kmh (155mph).  The high speed train is the AVE.

Early theory is that it overturned on the curve due to excessive speed.  Talgos already operate at higher than standard curve speeds due to their roof mounted suspension and tilting ability.

From the photos circulating the net, the carbodies look remarkably intact.  I wouldn't expect a US-spec train in the same situation to look any better.  Of course, the Talgo's curve speed is far in excess of what is even allowed in the US for ANY train.

And, US type equipment has been obliterated at speeds as low at 40mph (Chatsworth).  The real answer is not to get into an accident in the first place.  The Europeans as a whole are a LOT better at that than the US, and the Japanese are far, far better than the Europeans.
 
2013-07-24 09:26:36 PM  
I thought you were supposed to walk to Santiago.
 
2013-07-24 09:31:57 PM  

Dr.Zom: WSJ says at least 56. CNN says it's a 24,000.


The New York Post has identified two brown-skinned individuals wanted for questioning in relation to the incident.
 
2013-07-24 09:32:21 PM  
Where did it crash?

www.englishspeakingsuccess.com
 
2013-07-24 09:52:03 PM  
I just noticed... That one train car... It's on the road above the rails. It went up and over that fence.
 
2013-07-24 09:53:30 PM  

Dr.Zom: WSJ says at least 56. CNN says it's a 24,000.


Ten thousand souls was the opening bid...
 
2013-07-24 09:54:42 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Up to 60 dead now.


And soon it went to fifty nine..
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-24 10:16:18 PM  
The train in Spain leaves passengers in pain.
 
2013-07-24 10:27:22 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: At least 35 now.

Too bad Zimmerman wasn't vacationing in Spain.


Does your mommy know that you are using her computer when she's not around?
 
2013-07-24 10:40:26 PM  

DownDaRiver: Popcorn Johnny: At least 35 now.

Too bad Zimmerman wasn't vacationing in Spain.

Does your mommy know that you are using her computer when she's not around?


Team Trayvon has no sense of humor.
 
2013-07-24 10:45:06 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: trifecta


Aren't we already past that and into the next level?

Is it just that trains are fresh in the minds of submitters and mods and therefore more of these stories are being heard, or is there really alot more train action these days?
 
2013-07-24 11:09:55 PM  
I just rode a bullet train from Madrid to Valencia at 300 kph a couple of weeks ago, so I'm ge--- no I'm not.
 
2013-07-24 11:34:31 PM  
The headline made me laugh, Until the end. Then I had a sad.
 
2013-07-24 11:54:26 PM  

walkerhound: What an antiquated mode of transportation.


So is your car and bicycle. Nice troll though. I award no points.
 
2013-07-25 12:15:27 AM  
24.media.tumblr.com

Those poor reindeer!
 
2013-07-25 12:22:03 AM  

Dimensio: Dr.Zom: WSJ says at least 56. CNN says it's a 24,000.

The New York Post has identified two brown-skinned individuals wanted for questioning in relation to the incident.


They are described as having vaguely Mediterranean features.
 
2013-07-25 12:54:45 AM  
I bet this guy had something to do with it.
www.thecoast.ca
 
2013-07-25 02:57:58 AM  
Over 70 dead now. People are suggesting it went round a corner too fast according to BBC.
 
2013-07-25 04:48:28 AM  

FrancoFile: Crudbucket: I just finished the Camino de Santiago a couple weeks ago and I passed by that train station twice, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/great trip, but Spanish food sucks.

Say what now?

REAL paella.  97 varieties of ham.  Tapas.

What didn't you like?


Tell me about it. I'm so pissed. There was a great tapas restaurant near my hous and they closed. It's place was taken by yet another italian restaurant. Don't gte me wrong, I love Italian food (I'm of Italian descent myself), but there are plenty of them. GIVE ME MY TAPAS BACK.
 
2013-07-25 07:11:54 AM  
Confirmed with video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytHe8 aJyjfk

Mirror:

http://videos.lavanguardia.com/suceso s/20130725/54378098289/una-camar a -grabo-del-accidente-de-tren-en-santia go-de-compostela.html
 
2013-07-25 07:18:35 AM  

noneyourbase: Confirmed with video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytHe8 aJyjfk

Mirror:

http://videos.lavanguardia.com/suceso s/20130725/54378098289/una-camar a -grabo-del-accidente-de-tren-en-santia go-de-compostela.html


Messed with my link. Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytHe8aJyjfk
 
2013-07-25 07:43:04 AM  
Up to 78
 
2013-07-25 08:02:32 AM  

noneyourbase: Confirmed with video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytHe8 aJyjfk

Mirror:

http://videos.lavanguardia.com/suceso s/20130725/54378098289/una-camar a -grabo-del-accidente-de-tren-en-santia go-de-compostela.html


Jesus that's bad looking
 
2013-07-25 08:03:14 AM  
Popcorn Johnny

Up to 78

That's not "a lot".

At this rate this thread will never reach א
 
2013-07-25 08:48:11 AM  

noneyourbase: noneyourbase: Confirmed with video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytHe8 aJyjfk

Mirror:

http://videos.lavanguardia.com/suceso s/20130725/54378098289/una-camar a -grabo-del-accidente-de-tren-en-santia go-de-compostela.html

Messed with my link. Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytHe8aJyjfk


Yeah - just saw that on TV.  That's farking insane.  If the engineer survived he should be facing homicide charges.
 
2013-07-25 08:55:37 AM  

gfid: If the engineer survived he should be facing homicide charges.


Depends on whether or not he was supposed to be going that fast.  Could be that was the proper speed for that turn, but something went terribly wrong.  I'm sure they will investigate it fully.
 
2013-07-25 09:00:31 AM  
The speed limit was 80 km/h. The speed of the train was about 190 km/h.
 
2013-07-25 09:04:49 AM  

All Latest: The speed limit was 80 km/h. The speed of the train was about 190 km/h.


Well, if that's true then someone's going to be in some serious trouble.  If they're alive.
 
2013-07-25 09:09:29 AM  
 
2013-07-25 09:24:21 AM  

All Latest: The speed limit was 80 km/h. The speed of the train was about 190 km/h.


In the spirit of this thread...

I heard 260km/h on the BBC, and they said the limit was 30km/h

No doubt it will be 450 & 15 within the hour.
 
2013-07-25 09:30:43 AM  
Just to give full benefit of the doubt before all of the details are known, with such an excessive overspeed, mechanical failure is still an outside possibility.  Not a strong one, but not impossible.
 
2013-07-25 09:34:52 AM  
YoOjo

All Latest: The speed limit was 80 km/h. The speed of the train was about 190 km/h.

In the spirit of this thread...

I heard 260km/h on the BBC, and they said the limit was 30km/h

No doubt it will be 450 & 15 within the hour.


And CNN will chime in with 18C.

Which will be USAnified to 64F.

Kind of chilly for this time of year.
 
2013-07-25 09:41:15 AM  
NEWSFLASH

The train was traveling at warp factor 95 times infinity, everyone is Spain is dead, Ibiza has slipped back into the Mediterranean, neighboring Portugal is teetering on the edge of civil war, and there are reports of a zombie outbreak in Morocco.

UPDATE

Fourteen civil wars in Portugal, Ibiza is slipping back into the sea over and over again, and Morocco's zombie outbreak has spread to the whole known universe.
 
2013-07-25 09:51:27 AM  
nekom

Just to give full benefit of the doubt before all of the details are known, with such an excessive overspeed, mechanical failure is still an outside possibility. Not a strong one, but not impossible.

That was a variable gauge trainset, so the increased lateral load could have exceeded the mechanical limits of the system. It looks like the first or second carriage behind the power unit lost it first.

I'm surprised that the control/signal system wasn't configured to warn or prevent such an extreme overspeed in the first place. Of course, that would cost extra.
 
2013-07-25 09:56:21 AM  
YoOjo

NEWSFLASH

UPDATE


wellthatescalatedquickly.jpg
 
2013-07-25 11:40:25 AM  

YoOjo: Ibiza is slipping back into the sea


That'll be the day I go back to Andalusia.

/Tried to warn you about Chino and Papa Gee
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-25 12:20:10 PM  
Ban Assault trains!

/too soon?
//yes, I feel bad for that outburst
 
2013-07-25 12:39:24 PM  

noneyourbase: Messed with my link. Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytHe8aJyjfk


New Link
 
2013-07-25 02:05:59 PM  

nekom: Just to give full benefit of the doubt before all of the details are known, with such an excessive overspeed, mechanical failure is still an outside possibility.  Not a strong one, but not impossible.


the driver of the train has a history of posting photos of the train speedometer at high speeds on facebook.
 
2013-07-25 02:13:57 PM  

FrancoFile: Crudbucket: I just finished the Camino de Santiago a couple weeks ago and I passed by that train station twice, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/great trip, but Spanish food sucks.

Say what now?

REAL paella.  97 varieties of ham.  Tapas.

What didn't you like?


i found everything to be good, but the steak is terrible. I think it's because they don't bleed the cows before slaughter.
 
2013-07-25 02:45:42 PM  

uber humper: FrancoFile: Crudbucket: I just finished the Camino de Santiago a couple weeks ago and I passed by that train station twice, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/great trip, but Spanish food sucks.

Say what now?

REAL paella.  97 varieties of ham.  Tapas.

What didn't you like?

i found everything to be good, but the steak is terrible. I think it's because they don't bleed the cows before slaughter.


Don't eat beef in Spain.  Stick with lamb, pork, poultry, and seafood.  The only Europeans who know how to do beef are the English, French, and Swiss.
 
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