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(Uproxx)   Goggle unveils Chromecast, its $35 bid to take over your TV. That sound you hear is Apple TV crapping its pants   (uproxx.com) divider line 187
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2013-07-24 03:06:18 PM
Iit seems they stole my idea.  It must of been that one night in the bar in Springfield. No, it could have been the countless times I have provided a detailed description of a device such as this while shopping at electronic stores. Essentially a cordless smart HDMI cord. It was that little pipsqueak salesperson at Best Buy.
 
2013-07-24 03:06:28 PM
No, no Subby! It's an Apple TV killer! You have to call it that. It's right there in the script. Geez!
 
2013-07-24 03:42:29 PM
This is hardly an Apple TV killer.
 
2013-07-24 04:42:00 PM
Interesting concept.  I need to see some more about it though.
 
2013-07-24 04:51:17 PM

umadbro: This is hardly an Apple TV killer.


umadbro?
 
2013-07-24 04:56:56 PM
I wanted to buy one (since it's $40 bucks (after shipping)), but I already have a Roku, an Android MiniPC and a PS3 hooked into the TV. I don't know if I really need another way to watch netflix.
 
2013-07-24 04:59:23 PM

BizarreMan: Interesting concept.  I need to see some more about it though.


The biggest thing I see right now is that it is limited in which apps it can support right now (it made it sound like it was basically Netflix, YouTube, and videos on your device right now).   If the dongle is updatable itself though (ie, they can do an software update to your device to make Hulu Plus work in the future, and Amazon Prime, etc, etc), then, it is all good I think.

But.... its a dongle that you plug into your TV (HDMI required, but, every TV the last 3-4 years has that) that works with your smartphone/tablet and in-house/business wifi to watch video on the TV (and as pointed out, the video is streaming from your wifi, not your device, so, you could turn off your device once you started the video if you really wanted to, although you'd lose your remote then).
 
2013-07-24 05:01:04 PM

RexTalionis: I wanted to buy one (since it's $40 bucks (after shipping)), but I already have a Roku, an Android MiniPC and a PS3 hooked into the TV. I don't know if I really need another way to watch netflix.


Probably the main thing is the portability..... you can take it on the road with you, and if you are at a hotel with an HDMI input on the back of the TV and free wifi, you are pretty much set.   Or take it to your friends house, etc.
 
2013-07-24 05:02:32 PM
The price is right, since Roku Stick and Apple TV are both in the $99 range. I too want more information - is it a display mirror or just specific apps? Can we put ChromeOS on it for web browsing without the phone connected?  Soon to see, I'm sure.
 
2013-07-24 05:03:17 PM

BKITU: umadbro: This is hardly an Apple TV killer.

umadbro?


Heh, that was good but he's probably right, mostly because Apple TV users are invested in the iTunes ecosphere and brand loyalty, which this doesn't support.
 
2013-07-24 05:06:50 PM

Gig103: The price is right, since Roku Stick and Apple TV are both in the $99 range. I too want more information - is it a display mirror or just specific apps? Can we put ChromeOS on it for web browsing without the phone connected?  Soon to see, I'm sure.


If what is described is accurate, it is definitely not a "display mirror" (as I said, it states it is streaming from your wifi, not the phone/tablet).   So, it sounds like it basically has software on it to play from various video sources through the wifi.   As I stated above, it sounds somewhat limited right now (YT and Netflix, both of which I can already do through my BluRay player), but, my guess is they want to agressively add things like Hulu, Amazon Prime.... will be interesting if Apple throws up blocks to iTune video watching somehow.  The bigger benefit sounds like portability since it is a tiny dongle vs. a variously sized box.
 
2013-07-24 05:07:38 PM
i2.listal.com
 
2013-07-24 05:07:39 PM
Goggle? Really?
 
2013-07-24 05:08:16 PM

dletter: RexTalionis: I wanted to buy one (since it's $40 bucks (after shipping)), but I already have a Roku, an Android MiniPC and a PS3 hooked into the TV. I don't know if I really need another way to watch netflix.

Probably the main thing is the portability..... you can take it on the road with you, and if you are at a hotel with an HDMI input on the back of the TV and free wifi, you are pretty much set.   Or take it to your friends house, etc.


Yes, but to be fair, I can also connect my phone to the TV and watch Netflix that way.

Plus, I also have this thing, which is about the size of a fat Thumb drive:

www.bluenite.com
 
2013-07-24 05:08:58 PM
Damn, one second.
 
2013-07-24 05:10:43 PM

Gig103: BKITU: umadbro: This is hardly an Apple TV killer.

umadbro?

Heh, that was good but he's probably right, mostly because Apple TV users are invested in the iTunes ecosphere and brand loyalty, which this doesn't support.


I was going to mention this as well.... hardly anything can be an "Apple" killer, as stated above, Apple has it's "Apple" devotees that basically just buy anything with an Apple logo, and stay within that ecosphere.

I mean, Android's outsell IPhones (by a lot), but, IPhone is still the best selling MODEL of phone, since there are dozens of models of Android phones, but, anyone who wants an iPhone is buying an iPhone.  Although, I think the Galaxy models are right on the IPhone's heel's.
 
2013-07-24 05:15:23 PM

RexTalionis: dletter: RexTalionis: I wanted to buy one (since it's $40 bucks (after shipping)), but I already have a Roku, an Android MiniPC and a PS3 hooked into the TV. I don't know if I really need another way to watch netflix.

Probably the main thing is the portability..... you can take it on the road with you, and if you are at a hotel with an HDMI input on the back of the TV and free wifi, you are pretty much set.   Or take it to your friends house, etc.

Yes, but to be fair, I can also connect my phone to the TV and watch Netflix that way.

Plus, I also have this thing, which is about the size of a fat Thumb drive:

[www.bluenite.com image 850x562]


You are introducing cords with that.   I am not saying a dongle is THAT much better, but, it is a bit more simple (just plug it in), and no cords to bring around or anything.   Plus, if you are using your phone as the HDMI input, then you can't use it as the remote (unless you have like a 20 foot HDMI cable), like with this.

Point is, if you are starting with nothing, this is probably better than the options you've given to go out and get.  If it gets robust enough, TV manufacturers won't care about making their TVs "smart", they'll just figure you'll go buy a GoogleDongle or Roku if you want that.
 
2013-07-24 05:27:12 PM

dletter: You are introducing cords with that. I am not saying a dongle is THAT much better, but, it is a bit more simple (just plug it in), and no cords to bring around or anything. Plus, if you are using your phone as the HDMI input, then you can't use it as the remote (unless you have like a 20 foot HDMI cable), like with this.


You're going to have at least one cord to power the dongle. It's not MHL, so there's a micro-USB slot in the back of the dongle for power.
 
2013-07-24 05:29:07 PM

dletter: You are introducing cords with that. I am not saying a dongle is THAT much better, but, it is a bit more simple (just plug it in), and no cords to bring around or anything.


FYI, from the very light grey fine print at the bottom of this Google page

Power cord required (not shown).

That bugs me because I think the Roku Stick gets power from the HDMI port?
 
2013-07-24 05:30:55 PM

Gig103: dletter: You are introducing cords with that. I am not saying a dongle is THAT much better, but, it is a bit more simple (just plug it in), and no cords to bring around or anything.

FYI, from the very light grey fine print at the bottom of this Google page

Power cord required (not shown).

That bugs me because I think the Roku Stick gets power from the HDMI port?


Roku gets power through the MHL plug, which the MHL port can provide without additional power. The problem, of course, is that most older TVs don't have MHL plugs, so it's not usable on older TVs.
 
2013-07-24 05:46:54 PM

Gig103: dletter: You are introducing cords with that. I am not saying a dongle is THAT much better, but, it is a bit more simple (just plug it in), and no cords to bring around or anything.

FYI, from the very light grey fine print at the bottom of this Google page

Power cord required (not shown).

That bugs me because I think the Roku Stick gets power from the HDMI port?


Boo... bugs me too.  That is enough to make it no better (maybe worse since Roku has many more apps) than a Roku box at that point then.  Back to the drawing board.
 
2013-07-24 06:35:57 PM
Who the fark is goggle?
 
2013-07-24 06:38:40 PM

umadbro: This is hardly an Apple TV killer.


How can you kill that which has no life?
 
2013-07-24 06:39:17 PM

bigmf: Who the fark is goggle?


i.imgur.com

Goggle is the one on the left.
 
2013-07-24 06:39:47 PM

bigmf: Who the fark is goggle?


Buncha lazy do-nothings, from what I hear.
 
2013-07-24 06:40:11 PM
Would it work through my laptop?

How do I resolve the issue that I only have one HDMI port and I'm not switching cords considering how I have my TV mounted.

Does it have Codec issues?   My Xbox won't play certain videos, the ones that pirates are switching too, bastards.
 
2013-07-24 06:45:25 PM
So it will be in beta and then Google will abandon it?
 
2013-07-24 06:47:04 PM
I'm selling my Apple TV to an Apple friend nerd and getting one of these gizmos.  Already have a mini chrome book.  Still use my Apple Airport to stream tunes to the big rig however because I like the iTunes gui. If I can stream from the Chrome Browser and YouTube, then I'm happy.  Netflix is a waste of time and money. Just my .02
 
2013-07-24 06:47:27 PM
I am two months away from dropping cable and going OTA and streaming.  On the fence with Apple or something else.  Nothing beats Apple in terms of its content on iTunes and its hardware software integration.

Yet it is that closed-in system that keeps me from wanting to go ahead a take the leap.  I would go with Google Play and use the hardware of choice and my content can also move with me via my phone.  The problem is content.  Google does not offer many of the kid programming such as Disney, Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon TV shows that my kids watch.  Amazon offers all of the shows, but their streaming is iffy and performance various by hardware / software vendor.

I know I can pirate, but I would love to not really go all Apple.  I have seen some really cool stuff with Google TV and Android boxes, but it just doesn't seem to match up.
 
2013-07-24 06:52:55 PM

jntaylor63: I am two months away from dropping cable and going OTA and streaming.  On the fence with Apple or something else.  Nothing beats Apple in terms of its content on iTunes and its hardware software integration.

Yet it is that closed-in system that keeps me from wanting to go ahead a take the leap.  I would go with Google Play and use the hardware of choice and my content can also move with me via my phone.  The problem is content.  Google does not offer many of the kid programming such as Disney, Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon TV shows that my kids watch.  Amazon offers all of the shows, but their streaming is iffy and performance various by hardware / software vendor.

I know I can pirate, but I would love to not really go all Apple.  I have seen some really cool stuff with Google TV and Android boxes, but it just doesn't seem to match up.


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2013-07-24 06:54:53 PM
Been reading as much as I can find...seems like for stuff like Netflix and YouTube, there's going to be a "Chromecast" button on those apps on your device. What happens in these situations is you're telling the Chromecast device to go stream that file, you're not actually sharing/mirroring your device, just starting the stream on the dongle/TV.

But for everything else, you can mirror your Chrome tab. So anything that can stream in Chrome will be on your TV...I'm assuming that means you can go to something like Front Row and do something perfectly legal, Chromecast your Chrome tab, and then fullscreen, to have the stream on your TV.

I already preordered, really looking forward to coupling Chromecast with the devices-only NFL Sunday TIcket I got for basically $30 on the Madden 25 preorder.
 
2013-07-24 06:55:39 PM

jntaylor63: I am two months away from dropping cable and going OTA and streaming.  On the fence with Apple or something else.  Nothing beats Apple in terms of its content on iTunes and its hardware software integration.

Yet it is that closed-in system that keeps me from wanting to go ahead a take the leap.  I would go with Google Play and use the hardware of choice and my content can also move with me via my phone.  The problem is content.  Google does not offer many of the kid programming such as Disney, Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon TV shows that my kids watch.  Amazon offers all of the shows, but their streaming is iffy and performance various by hardware / software vendor.

I know I can pirate, but I would love to not really go all Apple.  I have seen some really cool stuff with Google TV and Android boxes, but it just doesn't seem to match up.


For me I am a mix of Apple TV, torrents, Netflix and amazon video. Plus you can hit up many streaming websites like stream2watch.me to catch literally anything you can think of on the planet. So I have an HTPC that plays the torrents, HBO GO and Itunes stuff gets streamed through Apple TV along with playing netflix. I have been free of cable for over 5 years now and this setup has worked great. Hell I don't even mind the streams on Stream2watch because like last week with the British Open they had the BBC broadcast and not ESPN so I had no commercials and the coverage was great. 

I think this little chromecast device is cool but the fact that they are trying to hide the fact that you can't just power it off HDMI and you need a cord should of been openly stated.
 
2013-07-24 06:58:33 PM

jntaylor63: Nothing beats Apple in terms of its content on iTunes and its hardware software integration.


And I agree with that for one small problem, the hardware price point.  Effing Mac Book, Thin/ Air whatever the fark is too much dinero. I only spend that kinda dough to upgrade the desktops. One mini Acer Chrome book (199.00) and this Google gizmo and streamy is dreamy again.  I just move video stuff up and down to the Google drive from my RAID set and happy happy happy.
 
2013-07-24 06:58:51 PM
Dear Google,

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2013-07-24 07:00:01 PM

Scrotastic Method: .I'm assuming that means you can go to something like Front Row and do something perfectly legal, Chromecast your Chrome tab, and then fullscreen, to have the stream on your TV.


Bingo, perfectly legal stuff only of course...*nudge nudge*
 
2013-07-24 07:02:34 PM

TheGhostofFarkPast: I think this little chromecast device is cool but the fact that they are trying to hide the fact that you can't just power it off HDMI and you need a cord should of been openly stated.


If your TV has a USB port, what's the big deal for one more cable you don't see anyway?  All you need is a short USB to Mini USB wire. Big deal.
 
2013-07-24 07:02:36 PM
So a wireless HDMI cable linked to an app?

munko: Iit seems they stole my idea.  It must of been that one night in the bar in Springfield. No, it could have been the countless times I have provided a detailed description of a device such as this while shopping at electronic stores. Essentially a cordless smart HDMI cord. It was that little pipsqueak salesperson at Best Buy.


Yep.
 
2013-07-24 07:05:15 PM
I broke down and bought a 50 foot cat5 cable and plugged in my Roku and it's so much better. There's like 20 layers of sheetrock between my router and my entertainment center.
 
2013-07-24 07:05:55 PM

justtray: So a wireless HDMI cable linked to an app?

munko: Iit seems they stole my idea.  It must of been that one night in the bar in Springfield. No, it could have been the countless times I have provided a detailed description of a device such as this while shopping at electronic stores. Essentially a cordless smart HDMI cord. It was that little pipsqueak salesperson at Best Buy.

Yep.


And they don't have it yet, BTW.  I went to my local BB and the dude looked at me like I had a third eyeball in my forehead.  Which is silly of course since I keep it in my pocket.
 
2013-07-24 07:06:59 PM
Can I watch my adult movies this way? If so, buying
 
2013-07-24 07:07:08 PM

Girion47: Would it work through my laptop?

How do I resolve the issue that I only have one HDMI port and I'm not switching cords considering how I have my TV mounted.

Does it have Codec issues?   My Xbox won't play certain videos, the ones that pirates are switching too, bastards.


Get a KVM switch.

I've got two that take in 4 separate inputs and let you switch between them on the output.  Lets me run 3 monitors off the desktop, but 2 off the laptop when I work at home and use the XBOX without needing a dedicated monitor

Mind you, they're about $100+ a pop, so depending on how many inputs you need and how cheap/old your TV is, you might just be better off getting a tv with more inputs.
 
2013-07-24 07:11:30 PM

Blargosaurus: [i2.listal.com image 320x256]


High five.
 
2013-07-24 07:11:44 PM
Looks like once again Google has engineered a cool piece of hardware and then assumed all they need to do it put it on the market it and it will become A Product.

Maybe it's the fault of the jackass who "summarized" this news for us on Upsuxx, but I have no idea what the value proposition of this device is.  I can stream video to my TV wirelessly and use my phone as a remote instead of the actual remote my TV came with?  And it only works on video sites/services that have been specifically designed to support it?
 
2013-07-24 07:15:30 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Can I watch my adult movies this way? If so, buying


Um, yes.  A mini book with the Chrome browser or a desk top that hooks your local wi-fi, connected to xHamster streaming to your 65" 1080p LG Plasma with this dongle is something I am interested in, for *cough* research.
 
2013-07-24 07:18:08 PM
And since we're in the "crap I plug into my TV" thread:

So I have a NAS.  It's in the same room as my TV and hooked up to the same router as my TV.  All my media stuff is on a network share on the NAS.

For some reason, my TV is completely incapable of viewing 99% of the things on the NAS because they're not in the right codec/format (some ISO, lots of AVI, lots of MP4, lots of MP3).  Is there anything (cheaper than building my own Haswell HTPC once the i3's come out) that I can put in between the TV and the NAS to expose and play all the files on the network share?
 
2013-07-24 07:19:34 PM

meyerkev: For some reason, my TV is completely incapable of viewing 99% of the things on the NAS because they're not in the right codec/format (some ISO, lots of AVI, lots of MP4, lots of MP3). Is there anything (cheaper than building my own Haswell HTPC once the i3's come out) that I can put in between the TV and the NAS to expose and play all the files on the network share?


http://wiki.plexapp.com/index.php/FAQ:_Plex_Media_Server_and_NAS
 
2013-07-24 07:20:38 PM
$35 plus 3 free months of Netflix (even if you already have Netflix) means it's basically $11.
 
2013-07-24 07:21:18 PM
Finally the eternal quandary of "How am I suppose to stream Netflix on my TV" has been solved.
 
2013-07-24 07:24:01 PM
Chris Sabo's reaction to Subby's headline:

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2013-07-24 07:24:08 PM

RexTalionis: meyerkev: For some reason, my TV is completely incapable of viewing 99% of the things on the NAS because they're not in the right codec/format (some ISO, lots of AVI, lots of MP4, lots of MP3). Is there anything (cheaper than building my own Haswell HTPC once the i3's come out) that I can put in between the TV and the NAS to expose and play all the files on the network share?

http://wiki.plexapp.com/index.php/FAQ:_Plex_Media_Server_and_NAS


Interesting.  And it looks like that's built into my Netgear NAS.
 
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