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2013-07-24 11:09:27 AM
No, here are 6 flops in already existing franchises that caused the studio to reboot the series and rethink the direction of the franchises. Oh, and two movies that were supposed to make a lot of money, spawn a lot of sewuels and sell a lot of toys but it just didn't work out that way.
 
2013-07-24 11:10:18 AM
Punisher wasn't a flop, it was a success and the only reason more movies didn't come sooner was just because they couldn't find a decent script Jane felt was worth filming. Which is a damn shame because I consider that to be one of the best imaging of Punisher yet.

And it also contains one of the top ten fight sequences in all film as well.
 
2013-07-24 11:10:40 AM

AnotherBluesStringer: No, here are 6 flops in already existing franchises that caused the studio to reboot the series and rethink the direction of the franchises. Oh, and two movies that were supposed to make a lot of money, spawn a lot of sewuels and sell a lot of toys but it just didn't work out that way.


And we're done.
 
2013-07-24 11:13:54 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Punisher wasn't a flop, it was a success and the only reason more movies didn't come sooner was just because they couldn't find a decent script Jane felt was worth filming. Which is a damn shame because I consider that to be one of the best imaging of Punisher yet.

And it also contains one of the top ten fight sequences in all film as well.


The "Dirty Laundry" short Jane and Ron Perlman did was better than "War Zone."
 
2013-07-24 11:14:39 AM
Can a film like Godzilla ever be thought to have a plot beyond, "monster attacks, people fight back and either scare it off or kill it"? I never thought plots were important in disaster films because the disaster is the plot. The events surrounding it just need to be organic and not shoehorned in. Like adding kids for inexplicable reasons.
 
2013-07-24 11:15:19 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Punisher wasn't a flop, it was a success and the only reason more movies didn't come sooner was just because they couldn't find a decent script Jane felt was worth filming. Which is a damn shame because I consider that to be one of the best imaging of Punisher yet.

And it also contains one of the top ten fight sequences in all film as well.


Jane and that fight scene were the only good things about the film. Travolta sucked, the cheesy "Instead of murdering his immediately family, let's up the ante by murdering his ENTIRE FAMILY AT A REUNION!" was completely unnecessary and the pacing was off.

But yea, the fight between him and the Russian was awesome.

And because I feel it's necessary to post this in any thread that mentions Thomas Jane and the Punisher, here's Jane's love-letter to The Punisher and its fans: Dirty Laundry
 
2013-07-24 11:15:28 AM

Slaxl: Can a film like Godzilla ever be thought to have

need a plot beyond, "monster attacks, people fight back and either scare it off or kill it"? I never thought plots were important in disaster films because the disaster is the plot. The events surrounding it just need to be organic and not shoehorned in. Like adding kids for inexplicable reasons.

That's what I meant.
 
2013-07-24 11:15:49 AM
No Green Lantern? The sequel was planned well before the movie was released and the toys all ended up in the bargain bin by Christmas.
 
2013-07-24 11:16:08 AM

Slaxl: Can a film like Godzilla ever be thought to have a plot beyond, "monster attacks, people fight back and either scare it off or kill it"? I never thought plots were important in disaster films because the disaster is the plot. The events surrounding it just need to be organic and not shoehorned in. Like adding kids for inexplicable reasons.


We'll see next year when they come out with the Godzilla reboot.
 
2013-07-24 11:16:34 AM
List fails without David Lynch's Dune.
 
2013-07-24 11:16:57 AM
Why the SAD tag? Perhaps if studios worried more about making good films they'd also make successful films.
 
2013-07-24 11:18:46 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Punisher wasn't a flop, it was a success and the only reason more movies didn't come sooner was just because they couldn't find a decent script Jane felt was worth filming. Which is a damn shame because I consider that to be one of the best imaging of Punisher yet.

And it also contains one of the top ten fight sequences in all film as well.




His short was much better.
 
2013-07-24 11:20:49 AM
List fails without "the golden compass". That was supposed to be a trilogy. It's like if lord of the rings stopped after the first movie.
 
2013-07-24 11:21:54 AM
I tried to watch Batman and Robin the other night (I think it was on TNT).  It really is awful.  Bad writing, bad acting, and over the top sets.
 
2013-07-24 11:22:17 AM
(small voice)I liked Superman Returns. I would have liked a sequel. Routh was a great Clark Kent/Superman and I loved Huntington as Olsen.(/small voice)
 
2013-07-24 11:23:35 AM

EyeballKid: The "Dirty Laundry" short Jane and Ron Perlman did was better than "War Zone."


troof
 
2013-07-24 11:26:50 AM

Sweet Chin Music: No Green Lantern? The sequel was planned well before the movie was released and the toys all ended up in the bargain bin by Christmas.


Ambivalence: List fails without "the golden compass". That was supposed to be a trilogy. It's like if lord of the rings stopped after the first movie.


This squared.

Too bad both movies were awful.
 
2013-07-24 11:27:02 AM

Slaxl: Can a film like Godzilla ever be thought to have a plot beyond, "monster attacks, people fight back and either scare it off or kill it"? I never thought plots were important in disaster films because the disaster is the plot. The events surrounding it just need to be organic and not shoehorned in. Like adding kids for inexplicable reasons.


In the particular case of the movie in question, it actually wasn't a bad monster movie. However, it was an abysmal Godzilla movie. As "The Giant radioactive lizard that attacked New York" it would have been a fun popcorn click.

In that sense it's similar to Jackson's "Adaptive Fantasy Trilogy" and JJ Abrams' "Generic Space Action Flicks with LenFlareTM"
 
2013-07-24 11:29:54 AM

Ambivalence: List fails without "the golden compass". That was supposed to be a trilogy. It's like if lord of the rings stopped after the first movie.




It did.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-24 11:31:28 AM
back in 98/99 I did some work in a building that had pallets and pallets and pallets full of godzilla, ninja turtle and other movie's, toys collectables, etc
All there gathering dust, rotting and waiting for its turn at a land fill
 
2013-07-24 11:31:29 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Punisher wasn't a flop, it was a success and the only reason more movies didn't come sooner was just because they couldn't find a decent script Jane felt was worth filming. Which is a damn shame because I consider that to be one of the best imaging of Punisher yet.

And it also contains one of the top ten fight sequences in all film as well.


The Thomas Jane Punisher is one of my favorite comic book movies. Travolta sucks in most everything, but he's easier to watch as a bad guy, particularly when you know the Punisher is coming for him. Solid action flick, IMO.
 
2013-07-24 11:33:59 AM
I'm gonna say it.  I enjoyed Superman Returns. Fark everyone else.
 
2013-07-24 11:38:00 AM

Slaxl: Can a film like Godzilla ever be thought to have a plot beyond, "monster attacks, people fight back and either scare it off or kill it"? I never thought plots were important in disaster films because the disaster is the plot. The events surrounding it just need to be organic and not shoehorned in. Like adding kids for inexplicable reasons.


coolalbumreview.com
 
2013-07-24 11:38:10 AM

stewbert: IdBeCrazyIf: Punisher wasn't a flop, it was a success and the only reason more movies didn't come sooner was just because they couldn't find a decent script Jane felt was worth filming. Which is a damn shame because I consider that to be one of the best imaging of Punisher yet.

And it also contains one of the top ten fight sequences in all film as well.

The Thomas Jane Punisher is one of my favorite comic book movies. Travolta sucks in most everything, but he's easier to watch as a bad guy, particularly when you know the Punisher is coming for him. Solid action flick, IMO.


I'm with you on this.  The main problem I have with Travolta is that I grew up in the 70's/80's and can't see him as anything but Vinnie Barbarino from Welcome Back Kotter.
 
2013-07-24 11:39:36 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com

Though I liked the movie...
 
2013-07-24 11:39:57 AM
I liked Batman and Robin.  Uma Thurman was great in it as Poison Ivy.
 
2013-07-24 11:42:35 AM
List fails without The Shadow. I personally LOVE the movie, but it's clear that they were hoping this would be the first in a franchise. I also have vague memories of some of the most bizarre toy tie ins you've ever seen. They would try to throw the Shadow in a variety of climate and location specific get ups (LOOK, it's Samurai Shadow, Invisible Shadow! etc...) as well as vehicles which made no sense. Sadly, the film flopped and was all but disowned by Alec Baldwin.
 
2013-07-24 11:42:51 AM

genepool lifeboat: I'm with you on this. The main problem I have with Travolta is that I grew up in the 70's/80's and can't see him as anything but Vinnie Barbarino from Welcome Back Kotter.


One reason I think he gets a bad rap, because Travolta with the right writing and role can actually be a damn good actor
 
2013-07-24 11:45:37 AM
Another list with nothing before 2000? Buckeroo Banzai and that one other movie that was heavily advertised on the back of comic books begs to differ.
 
2013-07-24 11:45:54 AM

mekki: (small voice)I liked Superman Returns. I would have liked a sequel. Routh was a great Clark Kent/Superman and I loved Huntington as Olsen.(/small voice)


Mr. Routh could have portrayed a good Clark Kent and Superman had a Clark Kent part been written at all and had a non-creepy Superman been written instead of a deadbeat dad.

I am unable to assess Mr. Routh's ability to portray a convincing Clark Kent/Superman dual personality because Superman Returns did not feature Clark Kent.

Similarly, Kevin Spacey could have portrayed a quality Lex Luthor. Unfortunately, he was cast as Gene Hackman, instead.

Additionally, Kate Bosworth is the worst Lois Lane ever.
 
2013-07-24 11:46:58 AM

Ambivalence: List fails without "the golden compass". That was supposed to be a trilogy. It's like if lord of the rings stopped after the first movie.


I would also add Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events and Eragon to that list. I would have put The Chronicles of Narnia on that list but at least it got two sequels despite having middling box office returns.
 
2013-07-24 11:47:11 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Punisher wasn't a flop, it was a success and the only reason more movies didn't come sooner was just because they couldn't find a decent script Jane felt was worth filming. Which is a damn shame because I consider that to be one of the best imaging of Punisher yet.

And it also contains one of the top ten fight sequences in all film as well.


I liked Thomas Jane as The Punisher, the worst part of the movie was Travolta sleepwalking his way through that movie.  But The Punisher isn't a character that sets up a fake love triangle within an organization to watch it implode before finishing it off.  Don't know why they took a lot of the background dressing from Garth Ennis's comic but took out the ruthless parts of it.

Then again, I liked Warzone.
 
2013-07-24 11:47:15 AM
I'm just gonna leave these here...

theseconddisc.files.wordpress.com

www.movieposter.com

/Can't believe these weren't mentioned.
//My generation gap must be showing...
 
2013-07-24 11:48:12 AM

Dimensio: Mr. Routh could have portrayed a good Clark Kent and Superman had a Clark Kent part been written at all and had a non-creepy Superman been written instead of a deadbeat dad.


This is why I laughed even harder during the super hero sequence in Movie 43

"He broke my window with his, umm you know stuff....seriously it comes out like fireworks"
 
2013-07-24 11:48:32 AM

stewbert: IdBeCrazyIf: Punisher wasn't a flop, it was a success and the only reason more movies didn't come sooner was just because they couldn't find a decent script Jane felt was worth filming. Which is a damn shame because I consider that to be one of the best imaging of Punisher yet.

And it also contains one of the top ten fight sequences in all film as well.

The Thomas Jane Punisher is one of my favorite comic book movies. Travolta sucks in most everything, but he's easier to watch as a bad guy, particularly when you know the Punisher is coming for him. Solid action flick, IMO.


I'm a dunce because I like that Punisher (he seems born for the part) and the Daredevil movie.
 
2013-07-24 11:49:31 AM

Fano: Another list with nothing before 2000? Buckeroo Banzai and that one other movie that was heavily advertised on the back of comic books begs to differ.


/shakes tiny fist..good job.
//one day, I'll learn to refresh before I post...
 
2013-07-24 11:50:52 AM

Lumbar Puncture: I liked Thomas Jane as The Punisher, the worst part of the movie was Travolta sleepwalking his way through that movie. But The Punisher isn't a character that sets up a fake love triangle within an organization to watch it implode before finishing it off. Don't know why they took a lot of the background dressing from Garth Ennis's comic but took out the ruthless parts of it.


Ahh cmon, he strapped the kids arm to the explosive and basically made him suffer, that's classic Punisher. And the entire making him kill everything he loves in this world and taking everything he owns, reducing this giant mobster kingpin to nothing before finally taking his life?

Man cmon, that is Punisher
 
2013-07-24 11:51:40 AM

mekki: (small voice)I liked Superman Returns. I would have liked a sequel. Routh was a great Clark Kent/Superman and I loved Huntington as Olsen.(/small voice)


I kinda liked it as well, but I think Routh was a bit too young to play Superman. The kid angle could've have worked, but they didn't handle it well. And they went to the John William's theme well more often than they should have.
 
2013-07-24 12:00:15 PM

Shady_Short_Busser: Fano: Another list with nothing before 2000? Buckeroo Banzai and that one other movie that was heavily advertised on the back of comic books begs to differ.

/shakes tiny fist..good job.
//one day, I'll learn to refresh before I post...


Well, if you can come up with that other movie... It wasn't Delta Force but the poster had some dude's face turned three quarters and assault dune buggies shooting in all directions like the wildest action you ever saw. I'm sure the movie cost 5 million to make.
 
2013-07-24 12:02:31 PM
Megaforce.

Or: The last time Barry Bostwick ever played the lead in a major studio-funded motion picture
 
2013-07-24 12:04:12 PM

carnifex2005: Ambivalence: List fails without "the golden compass". That was supposed to be a trilogy. It's like if lord of the rings stopped after the first movie.

I would also add Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events and Eragon to that list. I would have put The Chronicles of Narnia on that list but at least it got two sequels despite having middling box office returns.


Also:

www.dan-dare.org
 
2013-07-24 12:04:22 PM

genepool lifeboat: stewbert: IdBeCrazyIf: Punisher wasn't a flop, it was a success and the only reason more movies didn't come sooner was just because they couldn't find a decent script Jane felt was worth filming. Which is a damn shame because I consider that to be one of the best imaging of Punisher yet.

And it also contains one of the top ten fight sequences in all film as well.

The Thomas Jane Punisher is one of my favorite comic book movies. Travolta sucks in most everything, but he's easier to watch as a bad guy, particularly when you know the Punisher is coming for him. Solid action flick, IMO.

I'm with you on this.  The main problem I have with Travolta is that I grew up in the 70's/80's and can't see him as anything but Vinnie Barbarino from Welcome Back Kotter.




What?
 
2013-07-24 12:05:29 PM
Except maybe the reason Brandon Routh's most impressive pre-"Superman Returns" credit was a four-episode run as a dude named 'Wade' on MTV's sexy teen soap opera "Undressed" was because he doesn't make for all that compelling of a leading man.

There was nothing wrong with Brandon Routh. I thought he did a great job channeling Reeve's Superman/Clark Kent. Unfortunately for everyone, the script was awful. Not even Spacey could save it. Hollywood needs to stop putting Supes up against Lex Luthor and his land-grab stories because they are LAME and don't make for an interesting or compelling plot.

Of course, I say this and I didn't see Man of Steel because it looked un-Superman-like.
 
2013-07-24 12:08:09 PM
Yes, I agree with everyone regarding Last Airbender (what a travesty that movie was!), Golden Compass, Eragon, and Green Lantern.
 
2013-07-24 12:08:09 PM

Sinbox: Megaforce.

Or: The last time Barry Bostwick ever played the lead in a major studio-funded motion picture


That's the one. In fact, we could probably do a list based solely off crummy movies advertised heavily in comics. Lord of Illusion, anyone? Tango and Cash?
 
2013-07-24 12:13:13 PM
www.internationalhero.co.uk
 
2013-07-24 12:15:04 PM
I actually liked Superman Returns.  I kind of liked it better than Man of Steel.  The visuals were beautifully rendered and nicely saturated, and not dark and gritty like MoS.  The airplane scene alone was better than anything in MoS.  The two main problems were, the plot was weak and the action scenes too few.  But the Superman I grew up with and know was better depicted in SR than in MoS.
 
2013-07-24 12:17:35 PM

mekki: (small voice)I liked Superman Returns. I would have liked a sequel. Routh was a great Clark Kent/Superman and I loved Huntington as Olsen.(/small voice)


I kind of liked it too, I mean it wasn't amazing, but it was far from being terrible. Plus I think it is funny that the movie actually made more at the box office than Batman Begins did. It probably would have been more profitable if it had not been bogged down by the costs of all those other failed superman movies that got tied to it (like the Tim Burton one, or the Kevin Smith one or the JJ Abrams one).
 
2013-07-24 12:18:11 PM
47 comments and no mention of:
1.bp.blogspot.com
Farkers are slipping. I was about eight and I laughed at the idea of a sequel ever getting greenlit.
 
2013-07-24 12:18:38 PM

Fano: Sinbox: Megaforce.

Or: The last time Barry Bostwick ever played the lead in a major studio-funded motion picture

That's the one. In fact, we could probably do a list based solely off crummy movies advertised heavily in comics. Lord of Illusion, anyone? Tango and Cash?


I seem to faintly recall that Lynch's ill-fated adaptation of Dune was advertised on/in a lot of Alien Legion comics (from Marvel's Epic comics imprint). Although I could be mis-remembering.  That was a long time ago.

I do know for certain that Marvel issued forth an oversized comic adaptation of the film (with many scenes/subplots that weren't in the released film).
 
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