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2013-07-24 11:10:27 AM
derp
 
2013-07-24 11:14:19 AM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-24 11:17:50 AM
as is peak PC, and almost all other peak-stuff
 
2013-07-24 11:18:27 AM
I'm glad that "peak iPhone" was a serious contention anyone made.  Otherwise this headline might appear to be posted by a drooling moron.
 
2013-07-24 11:19:10 AM
Meanwhile, Nokia says "Fark everything, we're doing 41 megapixels."

rack.2.mshcdn.com
 
2013-07-24 11:21:32 AM
Apple phones sell well for too reasons

One, they appeal to intelligent people which is why they are so popular

Too, apple cares about its customers, they are not a gigantic corporation like microsoft

The only thing microsoft leads the world in is virus's

Go to hell microsfot

Posted from my iPad
 
2013-07-24 11:27:15 AM
Everything peaks eventually.
 
2013-07-24 11:31:54 AM
Apple phones sell well for too reasons

One, they appeal to intelligent people  sheeple which is why they are so popular

Too, apple cares about its customers (HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA),

they are not a gigantic corporation like microsoft -
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/08/19/apples-iphone-is- no w-worth-more-than-all-of-microsoft/ Forbes begs to differ there

The only thing microsoft leads the world in is virus's

Go to hell microsfot

Posted from my iPad

Not sure if serious. Jpg for the whole of that post.  4/10

/Two not too
// Plus all the other grammar and spelling mistakes....
 
2013-07-24 11:34:29 AM

gmoney101: Apple phones sell well for too reasons

One, they appeal to intelligent people  sheeple which is why they are so popular

Too, apple cares about its customers (HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA),

they are not a gigantic corporation like microsoft - http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/08/19/apples-iphone-is- no w-worth-more-than-all-of-microsoft/ Forbes begs to differ there

The only thing microsoft leads the world in is virus's

Go to hell microsfot

Posted from my iPad
Not sure if serious. Jpg for the whole of that post.  4/10

/Two not too
// Plus all the other grammar and spelling mistakes....


It's Mike_LowELL.  What do you think?
 
2013-07-24 11:41:00 AM

Mad_Radhu: Meanwhile, Nokia says "Fark everything, we're doing 41 megapixels."

[rack.2.mshcdn.com image 850x477]


not the 41 megapixels but my new 920 (got tired of the 5 minute battery in my S3) is showing up today.  yay new toy!
 
2013-07-24 11:41:07 AM

HeartBurnKid: gmoney101: Apple phones sell well for too reasons

One, they appeal to intelligent people  sheeple which is why they are so popular

Too, apple cares about its customers (HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA),

they are not a gigantic corporation like microsoft - http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/08/19/apples-iphone-is- no w-worth-more-than-all-of-microsoft/ Forbes begs to differ there

The only thing microsoft leads the world in is virus's

Go to hell microsfot

Posted from my iPad
Not sure if serious. Jpg for the whole of that post.  4/10

/Two not too
// Plus all the other grammar and spelling mistakes....

It's Mike_LowELL.  What do you think?


The man is an artist.
 
2013-07-24 11:41:37 AM
And peak Samsung was a fever delusion of mindless iTards.   Samsung sold 71 million phones to Apple's 31 million.

fanning the flames...
 
2013-07-24 11:42:46 AM

Mad_Radhu: Meanwhile, Nokia says "Fark everything, we're doing 41 megapixels."

[rack.2.mshcdn.com image 850x477]


I'm not a camera expert, but with a "camera" that light, won't the fact that one cannot possibly keep it steady after pushing the shutter button pretty much negate the impact of so many pixels?
 
2013-07-24 11:46:07 AM

wjllope: Mad_Radhu: Meanwhile, Nokia says "Fark everything, we're doing 41 megapixels."

[rack.2.mshcdn.com image 850x477]

I'm not a camera expert, but with a "camera" that light, won't the fact that one cannot possibly keep it steady after pushing the shutter button pretty much negate the impact of so many pixels?


I'm pretty sure un-sharp mask can fix anything.

/right?
//yeah I think so
 
2013-07-24 12:00:20 PM
As an iPhone "enthusiast", even I can see that the iPhone has peaked or will peak very soon. There's less and less headroom for market differentiation in the handset space every day. What kind of neat shiat are you going to make a phone do that it hasn't done before, or what is there left to improve? Apple will always have the edge in design, but that edge is getting thinner and thinner all the time. Eventually it will be too thin for most people to notice, as Android and the handsets that run it improve incrementally over years, with lots of free help from the Open Source community (an asset Apple can't leverage on iPhone for the most part).

That having been said, I probably won't switch to Android for my personal phone, as it doesn't offer anything I want, except for availability of apps that change the system features of the phone. If I wanted access to that functionality, I could always jailbreak my device, but I won't because a jailbroken iPhone is as unreliable as an Android device, for the same reasons as Android. I bought my phone specifically because of the curated walled garden, but I could see switching over to Android at some point, once the carrier bloatware, device fragmentation and junkware/malware problems have been sorted out.
 
2013-07-24 12:03:50 PM
A Forbes article praising Apple? I am shocked, shocked.
 
2013-07-24 12:03:57 PM

wjllope: I'm not a camera expert, but with a "camera" that light, won't the fact that one cannot possibly keep it steady after pushing the shutter button pretty much negate the impact of so many pixels?


Also not a camera expert, or even an amateur photographer, although I do take an occasional picture with my Droid BUT...I saw an article awhile back (not going to track it down right now, m'kay) that said more pixels aren't necessarily always better. In fact, when you start seeing ridiculously high megapixel numbers on a low-end camera, buyer beware because if it sounds too good to be true...

That article was heinously detailed, and most of it went over my head.
 
2013-07-24 12:04:22 PM

gmoney101: Not sure if serious. Jpg for the whole of that post. 4/10

/Two not too
// Plus all the other grammar and spelling mistakes....


Um ok?  Judge a person by the content of there character not there grammar

Ipad doesnt have spellcheck i dont need to cheat to get my intellignet across

Posted from my iPad
 
2013-07-24 12:05:31 PM
I said in another thread

Apple is not going anywhere anytime soon. Neither is Android. Maybe not Windows either. Blackberry is one contract away form disappearing. The rest are pretenders.

The good news is that they push each other and we win through cross innovations. The bad news is that we, the consumer, always get screwed in the end.
 
2013-07-24 12:06:48 PM

Piizzadude: The bad news is that we, the consumer, always get screwed in the end.


True in more ways than one....
 
2013-07-24 12:16:12 PM

wjllope: Mad_Radhu: Meanwhile, Nokia says "Fark everything, we're doing 41 megapixels."

[rack.2.mshcdn.com image 850x477]

I'm not a camera expert, but with a "camera" that light, won't the fact that one cannot possibly keep it steady after pushing the shutter button pretty much negate the impact of so many pixels?


The phone has an optical image stabilization system that should take care of most normal camera shaking from hand holding the phone.
 
2013-07-24 12:29:19 PM

Mike_LowELL: Apple phones sell well for too reasons

One, they appeal to intelligent people which is why they are so popular

Too, apple cares about its customers, they are not a gigantic corporation like microsoft

The only thing microsoft leads the world in is virus's

Go to hell microsfot

Posted from my iPad


A++, would LOL again.
 
2013-07-24 12:32:55 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: wjllope: I'm not a camera expert, but with a "camera" that light, won't the fact that one cannot possibly keep it steady after pushing the shutter button pretty much negate the impact of so many pixels?

Also not a camera expert, or even an amateur photographer, although I do take an occasional picture with my Droid BUT...I saw an article awhile back (not going to track it down right now, m'kay) that said more pixels aren't necessarily always better. In fact, when you start seeing ridiculously high megapixel numbers on a low-end camera, buyer beware because if it sounds too good to be true...

That article was heinously detailed, and most of it went over my head.


From what I have read, Nokia is actually doing some interesting things with the camera. The sensor itself is 1/1.5", so it is a lot larger than most smartphones (and even bigger than the 1/2.3" sensors found on a lot of point and shoot cameras), so the size of the pixels is still roughly the same size as most smartphones despite the really high resolution. The final image is also not 41 MP for most uses , because the camera app saves the original full res version of the file and then either does oversampling of the pixels to remove random pixel noise or lets you zoom in on part of the full res image. Because there are so many pixels to play with, you can apparently zoom in 3x during capture and still wind up with a final 5 MP image. The idea is to give you a digital zoom that doesn't totally suck. Video works the same way and they are saying you can get 4x zoom on 1080p video and 6x zoom if you shoot 720p.
 
2013-07-24 12:41:58 PM
Because of the demise of Blackberry's relevance and the lack of Microsoft to deliver anything for corporate customers(they still push WM6.5 for businesses), Apple is being heavily adopted in the corporate world, which is boosting numbers tremendously.
 
2013-07-24 12:51:30 PM

bhcompy: Because of the demise of Blackberry's relevance and the lack of Microsoft to deliver anything for corporate customers(they still push WM6.5 for businesses), Apple is being heavily adopted in the corporate world, which is boosting numbers tremendously.


I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned more.  My company is phasing out Blackberry altogether; they're testing Android right now, but most of what they're offering is iPhone (hell, iPhone is the only choice you have if you want AT&T).
 
2013-07-24 01:04:36 PM

HeartBurnKid: bhcompy: Because of the demise of Blackberry's relevance and the lack of Microsoft to deliver anything for corporate customers(they still push WM6.5 for businesses), Apple is being heavily adopted in the corporate world, which is boosting numbers tremendously.

I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned more.  My company is phasing out Blackberry altogether; they're testing Android right now, but most of what they're offering is iPhone (hell, iPhone is the only choice you have if you want AT&T).


What about the android phones that ATT sells?

/disclaimer, i am tech manager at ATT and iphone users are the bane of my existence.
 
2013-07-24 01:10:16 PM

theflatline: HeartBurnKid: bhcompy: Because of the demise of Blackberry's relevance and the lack of Microsoft to deliver anything for corporate customers(they still push WM6.5 for businesses), Apple is being heavily adopted in the corporate world, which is boosting numbers tremendously.

I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned more.  My company is phasing out Blackberry altogether; they're testing Android right now, but most of what they're offering is iPhone (hell, iPhone is the only choice you have if you want AT&T).

What about the android phones that ATT sells?

/disclaimer, i am tech manager at ATT and iphone users are the bane of my existence.


That's funny, tech managers at ATT are the bane of my existence.

Your network sucks.
Soon to be former ATT customer.
 
2013-07-24 01:25:03 PM

wjllope: Mad_Radhu: Meanwhile, Nokia says "Fark everything, we're doing 41 megapixels."

[rack.2.mshcdn.com image 850x477]

I'm not a camera expert, but with a "camera" that light, won't the fact that one cannot possibly keep it steady after pushing the shutter button pretty much negate the impact of so many pixels?


It has OIS. I have a Lumia 920 and that comes in handy with drunk pics
 
2013-07-24 01:32:43 PM

Fish in a Barrel: And peak Samsung was a fever delusion of mindless iTards.   Samsung sold 71 million phones to Apple's 31 million.

fanning the flames...


Haha, I love one of the comments there:

The Gnome: This just proves that there are a lot of poor people in the world buying cheap stuff. Next....


The guy buys iPhones because he doesn't want to be lumped together with the poors... the poors who buy Samsung smartphones. Just, wow.
 
2013-07-24 01:37:07 PM
If having a $146 billion war chest means you're doomed, I'd like to be doomed please.
 
2013-07-24 01:57:27 PM
I've had an iPhone for a while now.  I'll probably stick with Apple for my next phone (because I'm stubborn) but that being said, I would definitely agree that Apple has peaked.  There are a lot of really nice phones on the market these days and Apple really doesn't bring any "wow" to the table anymore.
 
2013-07-24 01:59:35 PM
Frankly, what this shows is that when people have a choice between a "free with contract" iPhone and a "free with contract" Android phone, they pick the iPhone.

In the past the only "free with contract" option has been Android.

People don't prefer Android.

They prefer "free".
 
2013-07-24 02:08:31 PM
I like Android, but if i was the only person on the planet who used one, that would actually make me even MORE happy.     I like being the only guy with the coolest car, phone, TV, around...
 
2013-07-24 02:11:08 PM
All smart phone manufacturers are in the same place. There is only so much you can do with a phone, and making slight changes to the case or UI won't alter that fact. Smartphones are just appliances, and not really worth getting that worked up about.
 
2013-07-24 02:11:44 PM

Mad_Radhu: The phone has an optical image stabilization system that should take care of most normal camera shaking from hand holding the phone.


Which means that for video, it will kick ass.

Despite being an Android user, I might take a look at this phone.
 
2013-07-24 02:27:01 PM
FTFA:The reason should be clear by now: Given a level playing field on price with Android competition, many people will choose iPhone.

Well, you let us know when it gets there, chief.
 
2013-07-24 02:46:47 PM

Mad_Radhu: The phone has an optical image stabilization system that should take care of most normal camera shaking from hand holding the phone.


IANA Mech E, but it would seem that positioning the lens in the center of the camera is probably a good choice.  Except for one-handed selfies, of course.

Also, Apple loves U.  The nanny-state app store and the sandboxing that some people hate are there to prevent rogue apps from sending all of your personal data and one handed selfies to some hacker hiding behind seven proxies.  Except for rogue, free wireless hotspots using the ingenious and secret name "attwifi" to draw in unsuspecting rubes.
 
2013-07-24 02:48:42 PM

Galvatron Zero: I've had an iPhone for a while now.  I'll probably stick with Apple for my next phone (because I'm stubborn) but that being said, I would definitely agree that Apple has peaked.  There are a lot of really nice phones on the market these days and Apple really doesn't bring any "wow" to the table anymore.


It's time for them to step up, definitely. Rumors are of different sized iPhones, and cheaper ones, but what's new with rumors. iWatches iEtc.
 
2013-07-24 03:13:24 PM

Mike_LowELL: Apple phones sell well for too reasons

One, they appeal to intelligent people which is why they are so popular

Too, apple cares about its customers, they are not a gigantic corporation like microsoft

The only thing microsoft leads the world in is virus's

Go to hell microsfot

Posted from my iPad


Examples "One" and "Too" of your "intelligence"?
 
2013-07-24 03:20:06 PM

Mikey1969: Mike_LowELL: Apple phones sell well for too reasons

One, they appeal to intelligent people which is why they are so popular

Too, apple cares about its customers, they are not a gigantic corporation like microsoft

The only thing microsoft leads the world in is virus's

Go to hell microsfot

Posted from my iPad

Examples "One" and "Too" of your "intelligence"?


Oh come on.  "Too" and "Two" are easy to mistype.  The "o" and "w" are right next to each other.
 
2013-07-24 03:38:07 PM

Mike_LowELL: Um ok? Judge a person by the content of there character not there grammar

Ipad doesnt have spellcheck i dont need to cheat to get my intellignet across

Posted from my iPad


I don't care what anyone says, you're a goddamn master of the lost art.
 
2013-07-24 03:46:50 PM

Beeblebrox: Mikey1969: Mike_LowELL: Apple phones sell well for too reasons

One, they appeal to intelligent people which is why they are so popular

Too, apple cares about its customers, they are not a gigantic corporation like microsoft

The only thing microsoft leads the world in is virus's

Go to hell microsfot

Posted from my iPad

Examples "One" and "Too" of your "intelligence"?

Oh come on.  "Too" and "Two" are easy to mistype.  The "o" and "w" are right next to each other.


Um, that's a 'Q', not an 'O'...
 
2013-07-24 03:47:36 PM

Mad_Radhu: Meanwhile, Nokia says "Fark everything, we're doing 41 megapixels."

[rack.2.mshcdn.com image 850x477]


I still like the S4 Zoom for pictures, at least concept-wise. I'd love to test drive one for a week or so.
 
2013-07-24 03:55:26 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: wjllope: I'm not a camera expert, but with a "camera" that light, won't the fact that one cannot possibly keep it steady after pushing the shutter button pretty much negate the impact of so many pixels?

Also not a camera expert, or even an amateur photographer, although I do take an occasional picture with my Droid BUT...I saw an article awhile back (not going to track it down right now, m'kay) that said more pixels aren't necessarily always better. In fact, when you start seeing ridiculously high megapixel numbers on a low-end camera, buyer beware because if it sounds too good to be true...

That article was heinously detailed, and most of it went over my head.


A lens is EXTREMELY important. More important than more pixels, really. A real lens, not the piece of shiat pinhole on the back of your phone. Also, the size of the image sensor is important. A crappy sensor and a crappy lens will give you 'X' Megapixels of noisy image. The one benefit of more pixels is that you can fix some issues by downsampling, but what it boils down to is that if you want to take good pics, you need a good lens and a good CCD sensor.

It's why I'm interested in the S4 Zoom, actually. It's more like a camera that can make calls.

www.notebookcheck.net

http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxycamera/s4zoom/
 
2013-07-24 04:02:03 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: wjllope: I'm not a camera expert, but with a "camera" that light, won't the fact that one cannot possibly keep it steady after pushing the shutter button pretty much negate the impact of so many pixels?

Also not a camera expert, or even an amateur photographer, although I do take an occasional picture with my Droid BUT...I saw an article awhile back (not going to track it down right now, m'kay) that said more pixels aren't necessarily always better. In fact, when you start seeing ridiculously high megapixel numbers on a low-end camera, buyer beware because if it sounds too good to be true...

That article was heinously detailed, and most of it went over my head.


Those high pixels are being packed into a very small sensor, causing the picture quality to suffer as well as having more video noise. Cell phone cameras, regardless of brand don't take pictures anywhere as good as a digital mid level SLR.
 
2013-07-24 04:05:28 PM

Latinwolf: Fuggin Bizzy: wjllope: I'm not a camera expert, but with a "camera" that light, won't the fact that one cannot possibly keep it steady after pushing the shutter button pretty much negate the impact of so many pixels?

Also not a camera expert, or even an amateur photographer, although I do take an occasional picture with my Droid BUT...I saw an article awhile back (not going to track it down right now, m'kay) that said more pixels aren't necessarily always better. In fact, when you start seeing ridiculously high megapixel numbers on a low-end camera, buyer beware because if it sounds too good to be true...

That article was heinously detailed, and most of it went over my head.

Those high pixels are being packed into a very small sensor, causing the picture quality to suffer as well as having more video noise. Cell phone cameras, regardless of brand don't take pictures anywhere as good as a digital mid level SLR.


And lens, how could I forget that.  Most lens on camera are cheap plastic things.
 
2013-07-24 04:13:15 PM

farkeruk: Mad_Radhu: The phone has an optical image stabilization system that should take care of most normal camera shaking from hand holding the phone.

Which means that for video, it will kick ass.

Despite being an Android user, I might take a look at this phone.


Get it from the Microsoft store and you'll get the camera grip/battery/add-on for free http://www.nokia.com/global/products/accessory/pd-95g/
 
2013-07-24 04:19:00 PM
They'll never reach "peak iPhone" as long as people are embarrassed to be seen with last week's model. "No, man. You need the new September 5th one. I can't believe you're still walking around with that late-August one."
 
2013-07-24 04:19:05 PM
gmoney101:
Not sure if serious. Jpg for the whole of that post.  4/10

/Two not too
// Plus all the other grammar and spelling mistakes....


You've been TrowELL'd.
 
2013-07-24 04:33:23 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: Get it from the Microsoft store and you'll get the camera grip/battery/add-on for free http://www.nokia.com/global/products/accessory/pd-95g/


Thanks. It's still a backup to my dSLR, but I hate how shiatty video looks from a cameraphone because there's no image stabilisation.
 
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