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(USA Today)   ESPN loses one in the sports rights battles: NASCAR second half rights go to NBC starting in 2015   (usatoday.com ) divider line
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2013-07-24 09:40:11 AM  
How is this a loss?
 
2013-07-24 09:51:56 AM  
More like lefts.
 
2013-07-24 09:53:41 AM  
Read that NBC paid over 50% more than what ESPN's current deal is for NASCAR....be interesting to see what kind of return they can make on that.
 
2013-07-24 09:53:59 AM  
If NBC manages to somehow make me pine for the halcyon days of NASCommercials on ESPN...

I'll stop before I give them any ideas.
 
2013-07-24 09:56:33 AM  
NBCSports has had fantastic racing coverage this year.  If they can get a British/Australian accent commentary for NASCAR, I might watch.
 
2013-07-24 09:56:43 AM  
TNT also lost races. If people think TNT played way too many commercials, just wait until NBC tries to recoup their investment.
 
2013-07-24 09:58:53 AM  
Addition by subtraction.
 
2013-07-24 09:59:04 AM  
Doesn't it have to be an actual sport before you can lose a sports rights battle?
 
2013-07-24 10:00:54 AM  
How many F1 races will we miss as a result?
 
2013-07-24 10:01:21 AM  

TemperedEdge: Doesn't it have to be an actual sport before you can lose a sports rights battle?


I'm no NASACR fan, but racing has been considered a sport for millennia.
 
2013-07-24 10:05:50 AM  
not a F was given
 
2013-07-24 10:08:38 AM  

The Muthaship: How many F1 races will we miss as a result?


Two probably. Maybe three if New Jersey can get it's act together for next year. Montreal, NJ, and Austin  might be bumped but it all depends on how the schedules fall. . The other ones have enough time difference to make conflicts exceedingly rare.
 
2013-07-24 10:11:13 AM  

soopey: The Muthaship: How many F1 races will we miss as a result?

Two probably. Maybe three if New Jersey can get it's act together for next year. Montreal, NJ, and Austin  might be bumped but it all depends on how the schedules fall. . The other ones have enough time difference to make conflicts exceedingly rare.


Maybe, but don't forget the 6 hours of pre- and post-race coverage required to make sure we get to hear the same 5 yokels say the same stupid sh*t they say every week in the exciting world of NASCAR.
 
2013-07-24 10:13:16 AM  

PowerSlacker: How is this a loss?


I sell local TV ads for ABC & FOX in New England, both of which have NASCAR. A given race in the Sprint Cup fetches about:

- 4x the ratings of a regular season Bruins game
- 8x "" NBA on ABC
- 4x "" MLB on FOX
- 75% of a regular season NFL game on FOX

They sell, too. And people who watch NASCAR tend to spend a lot of money on stupid shiat.

So yeah, it's a pretty big loss.
 
2013-07-24 10:15:52 AM  

TemperedEdge: Doesn't it have to be an actual sport before you can lose a sports rights battle?


This.
 
2013-07-24 10:17:14 AM  

The Muthaship: soopey: The Muthaship: How many F1 races will we miss as a result?

Two probably. Maybe three if New Jersey can get it's act together for next year. Montreal, NJ, and Austin  might be bumped but it all depends on how the schedules fall. . The other ones have enough time difference to make conflicts exceedingly rare.

Maybe, but don't forget the 6 hours of pre- and post-race coverage required to make sure we get to hear the same 5 yokels say the same stupid sh*t they say every week in the exciting world of NASCAR.


Yeah, but they can be punted over to NBCSports to hang out with the NHL, Tour de France, and MLS guys.

F1 events in the US will probably get top billing as they happen once or twice a year instead of 36 times. Montreal may get second fiddle because that's Canadian, man. Spa, Monaco, and maybe Monza might be on network TV too because they're early in the morning when nothing else is on and they're usually kick ass races with amazing history.

Maybe NBC will bring Pierre McGuire in to do some in between the benches commentary in the pits.
 
2013-07-24 10:23:52 AM  
Making ESPN 2% more watchable. Maybe 4% if they start shunning NASCAR on SportsCenter
 
2013-07-24 10:33:53 AM  

idesofmarch: TemperedEdge: Doesn't it have to be an actual sport before you can lose a sports rights battle?

This.


I believe it was  Hemingway who said "Mountain climbing, bull fighting, and auto racing are the only true sports. Everything else is just a game." I tend to agree.


soopey: Maybe NBC will bring Pierre McGuire in to do some in between the benches commentary in the pits.


It will be interesting to see who they bring together as a broadcast team. Hopefully it will not include Kyle Petty or Darrell Waltrip.
 
2013-07-24 10:44:59 AM  

buckets_of_fun: More like lefts.


I chortled
 
2013-07-24 10:48:49 AM  

aintnuttintofarkwith: PowerSlacker: How is this a loss?

I sell local TV ads for ABC & FOX in New England, both of which have NASCAR. A given race in the Sprint Cup fetches about:

- 4x the ratings of a regular season Bruins game
- 8x "" NBA on ABC
- 4x "" MLB on FOX
- 75% of a regular season NFL game on FOX

They sell, too. And people who watch NASCAR tend to spend a lot of money on stupid shiat.

So yeah, it's a pretty big loss.


Holy crap.  I had no idea New England had so many rednecks.
 
2013-07-24 10:49:38 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: idesofmarch: TemperedEdge: Doesn't it have to be an actual sport before you can lose a sports rights battle?

This.

I believe it was  Hemingway who said "Mountain climbing, bull fighting, and auto racing are the only true sports. Everything else is just a game." I tend to agree.


Yeah, well, that's just, like, Hemingway's opinion, man - and I disagree.
 
2013-07-24 10:51:11 AM  

aintnuttintofarkwith: PowerSlacker: How is this a loss?

I sell local TV ads for ABC & FOX in New England, both of which have NASCAR. A given race in the Sprint Cup fetches about:

- 4x the ratings of a regular season Bruins game
- 8x "" NBA on ABC
- 4x "" MLB on FOX
- 75% of a regular season NFL game on FOX

They sell, too. And people who watch NASCAR tend to spend a lot of money on stupid shiat.

So yeah, it's a pretty big loss.


This is pretty interesting. I knew there was money to be made in racing, but I wasn't aware it was also pulling in raw viewer numbers. Thanks.
 
2013-07-24 11:13:33 AM  
Good!
 
2013-07-24 11:18:43 AM  
This had better not send Indycar to ESPN full time. The NBCSN coverage is too good to have to give it all up.
 
2013-07-24 11:53:29 AM  
i'm not excited about NBC getting rights to NASCAR again.  i still remember their first broadcast from Homestead in '99, where Brian Williams went on for hours with driver interviews and they showed about 4 laps of actual racing.

i am enjoying NBCSN's coverage of F1 and Indycar this year, so there's some hope.  i do wish the networks would cover NASCAR like they do other sports, and not simply repeat the talking points they receive from the France family's publicity department.  it's tiring to listen to.  football, baseball, F1, and the others are covered warts and all by the networks that televise those sports, but if you have a NASCAR contract, the idea of "in depth" coverage of the sport is riding around with Clint Bowyer in his camouflage limo asking his thoughts on Darlington for the 10th year in a row.
 
2013-07-24 12:07:27 PM  
This is great news.
 
2013-07-24 12:18:02 PM  

PowerSlacker: aintnuttintofarkwith: PowerSlacker: How is this a loss?

I sell local TV ads for ABC & FOX in New England, both of which have NASCAR. A given race in the Sprint Cup fetches about:

- 4x the ratings of a regular season Bruins game
- 8x "" NBA on ABC
- 4x "" MLB on FOX
- 75% of a regular season NFL game on FOX

They sell, too. And people who watch NASCAR tend to spend a lot of money on stupid shiat.

So yeah, it's a pretty big loss.

Holy crap.  I had no idea New England had so many rednecks.


Well, central Maine, specifically. If you cut off the top 80% of Maine it would be one of the reddest states out there, with the average household income to match.

That being said, it still gets huge ratings nationally, too.
 
2013-07-24 12:18:28 PM  
So when does ALMS/Grand-Am merger series get their TV deal?
 
2013-07-24 12:39:16 PM  

fatalvenom: So when does ALMS/Grand-Am merger series get their TV deal?


USCR will probably be stuck with fox sports one next year. You won't miss much, next season will be around 12 total races.

Man.... Imagine Leigh Diffy and Steve Matchett calling NASCAR. That would be awesome/stupid.
 
2013-07-24 01:06:17 PM  
This might actually turn out well, given their better-than-expected coverage of F1. Interesting stuff DOES happen in NASCAR, and I'm not talking about JPM crashing into jet dryers. If they get a coverage team that can actually break down the racing itself, I might watch it again (used to love it when I was a kid). Also, they can cross-promote F1 and Indy during the NASCAR races. Okay, so a vocal minority of the NASCAR demographic won't care about "those dam furriners and their pansy cars," but a lot of us just like to watch drivers make things on wheels go fast and battle each other. Even some of the drivers themselves are like that. Watch Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart drive F1 cars, they're like kids in a candy store. And actually not so bad at handling those cars, either. Also...Lewis Hamilton driving a NASCAR car was pretty funny (you also get to see it run on the wet, which doesn't usually happen for reasons unknown).

Get some good commentary and analysis, cross-pollinate the series and get more people watching Indy and F1, pressure NASCAR to run some more freakin' road courses...revival of the sport. Maybe.
 
2013-07-24 01:09:12 PM  
David Hobbs and Mike Joy.
That is all.
 
2013-07-24 01:13:10 PM  

slyde: David Hobbs and Mike Joy.
That is all.


and GUS JOHNSON when he replaces Mike Joy
 
2013-07-24 01:32:41 PM  
Will it be like the NBC Olympic coverage?  Everything tape delayed until prime time and cutting into the action for heartwarming personal stories about the drivers?
 
2013-07-24 01:42:49 PM  

soopey: F1 events in the US will probably get top billing as they happen once or twice a year instead of 36 times. Montreal may get second fiddle because that's Canadian, man. Spa, Monaco, and maybe Monza might be on network TV too because they're early in the morning when nothing else is on and they're usually kick ass races with amazing history.


The thing to keep in mind is that Montreal and the supposed New Jersey race would both be in early June, which would be just before NBC takes over the NASCAR schedule. If anything; the only US race that would actually get affected is Austin because if they stick with the current scheduling, that race is on the same day as NASCAR's final race (which NBC is committing to show on network and not cable).

I think NBC committed to 4 F1 GPs on network; which this year is Monaco, Canada, Austin and Brazil. They still be able to stick with that promise despite the NASCAR deal.
 
2013-07-24 01:58:40 PM  
Wow, that seems like a rather dumb move by NASCAR.  Their ESPN connection meant ESPN pushed NASCAR in all of their shows way more than they would have if they didn't carry part of the season.  I watch PTI, and even they had NASCAR content from time to time.  And it was obvious that it came from above.  Tony and Mike know nothing about the sport.

This was mentioned many times in that book about ESPN... they were often instructed to add more NASCAR content/stories/news.
 
2013-07-24 02:02:16 PM  
Dear NBC: Please do not hire Kyle Petty or Wally Dalenbach.
 
2013-07-24 02:03:43 PM  
So long as NBC shows races over the air on their main network, then I'm happy.  I don't have cable and won't be buying cable, so this will be awesome for me.  Now if I can just find someplace to watch tonights dirt race.
 
2013-07-24 02:06:45 PM  
I was gonna say it can't be worse than ESPN's coverage, but once upon a time we said that ESPN's coverage couldn't be worse than TNT.
 
2013-07-24 02:09:12 PM  
-- Final 20 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series races (7 on NBC, 13 on NBCSN)
-- Final 19 NASCAR Nationwide Series races (4 on NBC, 15 on NBCSN)

hmmmm

looks like I'll be missing out on 28 races a season. I don't want to stream NASCAR, and I'm not paying DISH for the next package just to get NBCSN.
 
2013-07-24 02:31:54 PM  
And nothing of value was lost.  Or gained.
 
2013-07-24 02:41:45 PM  

poughdrew: NBCSports has had fantastic racing coverage this year.  If they can get a British/Australian accent commentary for NASCAR, I might watch.


I'm old enough to remember Sir Jackie Stewart doing color for NASCAR.
 
2013-07-24 02:44:03 PM  
Me, two weeks ago: By a few years from now, there will be literally no sporting events on ESPN other than SEC intramurals and NASCAR

Welp, guess it'll just be SEC intramurals.
 
2013-07-24 03:01:27 PM  
So it will be like NHL, on a third-tier channel no one pays for?
 
2013-07-24 03:20:42 PM  

uncleacid: Dear NBC: Please do not hire Kyle Petty or Wally Dalenbach.


THIS! SO MUCH THIS THIS THIS!

The other week was the first time i literally turned off the race because the broadcasters spent the entire time between commercials talking about everything EXCEPT THE DAMN RACE

Sorry, no thank you. Bring back Jarrett and Dr Jerry Punch. At least they knew to talk about the damn race and knew what racing is and was

/btw, there were a lot better headline submissions for this story, wtf mods?
 
2013-07-24 04:24:05 PM  
Its going back to the old days of FOX and NBC nascar broadcasts
 
2013-07-24 06:44:37 PM  
So I guess this means ESPN will decide that NASCAR doesn't exist. They'll never say another word about it once it moves to NBC.
 
2013-07-24 06:51:20 PM  

Snuffybud: So I guess this means ESPN will decide that NASCAR doesn't exist. They'll never say another word about it once it moves to NBC.


This is also the final step to me deciding ESPN doesn't exist. Which I am quite happy about.
 
2013-07-24 06:54:45 PM  
Is there a thread in the queue for the Eldora truck race tonight?
 
2013-07-24 07:27:45 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: -- Final 20 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series races (7 on NBC, 13 on NBCSN)
-- Final 19 NASCAR Nationwide Series races (4 on NBC, 15 on NBCSN)

hmmmm

looks like I'll be missing out on 28 races a season. I don't want to stream NASCAR, and I'm not paying DISH for the next package just to get NBCSN.


I suspect that was part of the reason NBC bid on the rights, so they could put pressure on the cable companies to include NBCSN in their standard tier.
 
2013-07-24 07:28:05 PM  

soopey: Is there a thread in the queue for the Eldora truck race tonight?


Guess not. If you want to we can run with this one.

So far it's an interesting novelty, but the WoO and my local racers at Williams Grove do it better. The trucks just aren't made for this. We'll see how it goes. Schrader ran away with the first heat.
 
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