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(Short List)   Epic new 'Gravity' trailer sees demand in Virgin Galactic flights plummet, because space is still terrifying   (shortlist.com) divider line 90
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2013-07-24 09:56:19 AM
I saw the trailer for that when I went to watch Pacific Rim. Looks like it is gonna be good. Also, kind of seems like a short story my dad wrote some years back.

/No, he never published it. Just wrote it for giggles.
 
2013-07-24 10:00:13 AM
the cgi looks cartoony...not very smooth.
could be just me.
 
2013-07-24 10:02:06 AM

whosits_112: I saw the trailer for that when I went to watch Pacific Rim. Looks like it is gonna be good. Also, kind of seems like a short story my dad wrote some years back.

/No, he never published it. Just wrote it for giggles.


Yeah I saw the trailer too.  I looked like the whole movie was in the trailer.
 
2013-07-24 10:02:06 AM
Could just be you on dial-up.

This would seem to be one of the few movies for which 3D is a good idea.

/Children of Men was excellent. Cuaron loves his extended tracking shots.
 
2013-07-24 10:03:20 AM
Trailer parks are known gravity wells.
 
2013-07-24 10:07:15 AM
I have to admit, that trailer was pretty terrifying. Good use of IMAX 3D. I think I'd go to see if, but honestly I think I'd be too scared.
 
2013-07-24 10:07:40 AM
So, is this movie like "Open Water" but only in space? And, will there be Sharks? Space Sharks would be cool.

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2013-07-24 10:12:29 AM
Wife and I saw the trailer for this recently.

She is deathly terrified of heights and literally sat in her chair pulling a Stephen King NOOOOPE NOOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE
 
2013-07-24 10:15:25 AM

Brick-House: So, is this movie like "Open Water" but only in space? And, will there be Sharks? Space Sharks would be cool.

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The Asylum is going to make a SyFy version, called Gravity Sharks.
/Sharks
//IN SPAAACE!
///With laser beams on their frikkin' heads.
 
2013-07-24 10:20:01 AM
Actually, Fark All Gravity, obviously.
 
2013-07-24 10:22:20 AM
Oh, this isn't the movie where they ignore the Roche Limit?
Hmmm...looks okay.
 
2013-07-24 10:22:29 AM
Sandra Bullock? WTF? It isn't 2005 anymore.
 
2013-07-24 10:26:19 AM
Reminds me of that scene from Europa Report where the astronaut has to leave the space ship 'cause his space suit is contaminated.    Was the trailer sped-up, 'cause the weightlessness seemed pretty fast?
 
2013-07-24 10:29:14 AM

Brick-House: So, is this movie like "Open Water" but only in space? And, will there be Sharks? Space Sharks would be cool.

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Space Sharks.  Nice.  :)
 
2013-07-24 10:30:03 AM

Wellon Dowd: Sandra Bullock? WTF? It isn't 2005 anymore.


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2013-07-24 10:32:21 AM
is it just me or does the physics look waaaaay out of wack?

\/ something about the rotation speed
/\ sandra bollock and george clooney?  weird
 
2013-07-24 10:33:35 AM

Blues_X: Wellon Dowd: Sandra Bullock? WTF? It isn't 2005 anymore.

Studman69 pic.


I just think it would do better at the box office if the female lead was someone more contemporary, like Vanessa Hudgens. Or Ariel Winter playing a child-genius character.
 
2013-07-24 10:36:38 AM
Hell yeah! Finally another movie without sound in space!
 
2013-07-24 10:39:09 AM

Wellon Dowd: Blues_X: Wellon Dowd: Sandra Bullock? WTF? It isn't 2005 anymore.

Studman69 pic.

I just think it would do better at the box office if the female lead was someone more contemporary, like Vanessa Hudgens. Or Ariel Winter playing a child-genius character.


And they could have the first dog to go on a shuttle mission, voiced by Eddie Murphy!
 
2013-07-24 10:40:02 AM
Looks pretty cool, may have to spring for the IMAX ticket, we'll call it my summer vacation :(
 
2013-07-24 10:40:07 AM
This has been my most-anticipated film to view since i heard about it. Depending upon the hour, I just might say that the director just may be my favorite currently-working filmmaker.

There's not a chance I'm viewing a frame of film until i sit middle-seat, 3 rows from the top on opening day. first showing. Got the day off.

By the way, trailers are supposed to be being re-worked so that they aren't any longer than two minutes in length.  http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/theater-owners-seek-new-rules-5 5 9164  (sfw).

As for Ms. Bullock, I'm not crazy about her, but I'm going more for the director and the story.

Per imdb:, Angelina Jolie was first cast, but dropped out (presumably to have her surgery). Rachel Weisz, Naomi Watts, Natalie Portman, Marion Cotillard, Abbie Cornish, Carey Mulligan, Sienna Miller, Scarlett Johansson, Black Lively, Rebecca Hall and Oliva Wilde were then each tested or approached for the female lead. Robert Downey, Jr. was originally circling what became Clooney's part but dropped out.
 
2013-07-24 10:40:54 AM
www.hollywoodjesus.com
its been done.....
 
2013-07-24 10:44:22 AM
Argh... another movie full of particle storm and poor kinematics.
 
2013-07-24 10:46:05 AM

escherblacksmith: is it just me or does the physics look waaaaay out of wack?

\/ something about the rotation speed
/\ sandra bollock and george clooney?  weird


It kind of seems like maybe someone is not realizing that "weightlessness" is not the same thing as "Everything in space has basically no mass". Both the shuttle and the Hubble or whatever that's supposed to be get to spinning pretty radically with not much of a hit.
 
2013-07-24 10:47:44 AM
Don't we know the orbits of all debris bigger than a quarter? Is there possibly anything up there we don't know about that could do that amount of damage and set the shuttle spinning like that?
 
2013-07-24 10:57:25 AM
Looks like they got a bad case of Kessler Syndrome...
 
2013-07-24 11:03:27 AM

Skwrl: Looks like they got a bad case of Kessler Syndrome...


The Kessel Runs?
 
2013-07-24 11:04:19 AM

Skwrl: Looks like they got a bad case of Kessler Syndrome...


Kessler?

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2013-07-24 11:11:56 AM

Wellon Dowd: Don't we know the orbits of all debris bigger than a quarter? Is there possibly anything up there we don't know about that could do that amount of damage and set the shuttle spinning like that?


Something from a foreign orbit gets caught by Earth gravity and catches some satellite. From the trailer it sounds like they knew debris was inbound because mission control was calling off the walk due to some event.
 
2013-07-24 11:21:08 AM
gravity is just a theory! TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!
 
2013-07-24 11:31:24 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Wellon Dowd: Don't we know the orbits of all debris bigger than a quarter? Is there possibly anything up there we don't know about that could do that amount of damage and set the shuttle spinning like that?

Something from a foreign orbit gets caught by Earth gravity and catches some satellite. From the trailer it sounds like they knew debris was inbound because mission control was calling off the walk due to some event.


Listening to the audio on the trailer site, it sounds like a Russian satellite got hit by a 'missile' of some variety.
A new clip of video looks like it will be coming online in ~30 minutes at that site, too.
 
2013-07-24 11:34:08 AM

jayhawk88: mass


How much does the space shuttle weigh in orbit?
 
2013-07-24 11:37:28 AM
I really really want to see it...
 
2013-07-24 11:38:11 AM

Mjeck: jayhawk88: mass

How much does the space shuttle weigh in orbit?

 
2013-07-24 11:39:54 AM

jayhawk88: escherblacksmith: is it just me or does the physics look waaaaay out of wack?

\/ something about the rotation speed
/\ sandra bollock and george clooney?  weird

It kind of seems like maybe someone is not realizing that "weightlessness" is not the same thing as "Everything in space has basically no mass". Both the shuttle and the Hubble or whatever that's supposed to be get to spinning pretty radically with not much of a hit.


yeah, that's it, the impact inertia is all hosed.  I'll have to work out the math.

\\ not really
\ long time since I had to do such things
 
2013-07-24 11:40:43 AM

Mjeck: jayhawk88: mass

How much does the space shuttle weigh in orbit?


The shuttle is weightless in orbit because orbit is freefall around the planet.  However, it still has mass.  Mass is how much matter is in an object, while weight is how much force that object exerts due to the pull of gravity.  This is how you can use rockets and gas jets to move around while in freefall orbit.
 
2013-07-24 11:47:18 AM

BafflerMeal: Mjeck: jayhawk88: mass

How much does the space shuttle weigh in orbit?


Nothing.  But it still has mass. And conservation of momentum (the relevant bit of Newtonian mechanics for a collision) would dictate that a smaller mass object hitting a larger mass object doesn't perturb the larger masses motion as much as seems to be indicated in the trailer.
 
2013-07-24 11:51:35 AM
She seemed a little too panicky to be allowed into space. Don't people, even civilians, have to go through an insane amount of stress tests to make sure they don't panic and just react?

Also, it would be a much shorter movie had she gotten lose on the other side of the spin...
 
2013-07-24 11:53:23 AM

Mjeck: jayhawk88: mass

How much does the space shuttle weigh in orbit?


African or European Space Shuttle?
 
2013-07-24 11:54:54 AM
How long can you handle floating in space before you just say 'to hell with it' and open your mask?
 
2013-07-24 11:57:29 AM

INeedAName: How long can you handle floating in space before you just say 'to hell with it' and open your mask?


one bowel movement
 
2013-07-24 11:57:34 AM

INeedAName: How long can you handle floating in space before you just say 'to hell with it' and open your mask?


Man that would be one painful way to go out, like seriously I don't think one could even imagine how painful that would be.
 
2013-07-24 11:57:55 AM

INeedAName: How long can you handle floating in space before you just say 'to hell with it' and open your mask?


How much air do they carry with them?
 
2013-07-24 12:04:48 PM
So, is this movie basically:
   1. Bad thing happens to shuttle (with cool CGI)
   2. Watch people die for two hours (with cool CGI)

Don't care how good the CGI, or direction, or emoting of actors is - I'm not going to go to a movie and just watch two hours of the inevitable.  People bring up Open Water - it IS the same thing (looks like anyway), but at least in Open Water there was the possibility that one of them might get rescued, and it wasn't until the end that you realized that you wasted two+ hours of your life.  In this case I think we're all forewarned.
 
2013-07-24 12:07:12 PM

RyansPrivates: BafflerMeal: Mjeck: jayhawk88: mass

How much does the space shuttle weigh in orbit?

Nothing.  But it still has mass. And conservation of momentum (the relevant bit of Newtonian mechanics for a collision) would dictate that a smaller mass object hitting a larger mass object doesn't perturb the larger masses motion as much as seems to be indicated in the trailer.


but doesn't the speed of the smaller object have something to do with that?
 
2013-07-24 12:11:49 PM
 
2013-07-24 12:20:05 PM

You Are All Sheep: RyansPrivates: BafflerMeal: Mjeck: jayhawk88: mass

How much does the space shuttle weigh in orbit?

Nothing.  But it still has mass. And conservation of momentum (the relevant bit of Newtonian mechanics for a collision) would dictate that a smaller mass object hitting a larger mass object doesn't perturb the larger masses motion as much as seems to be indicated in the trailer.

but doesn't the speed of the smaller object have something to do with that?


Relative speed difference along a given vector does yes, but the larger the mass, there is that much less differential.  For example, assuming the masses don't combine, and all momentum is transferred:

  10 kg mass at 50 m/s hits a 200 kg mass at 0 m/s

you would get a resultant speed of 2.5 m/s (10 * 50 = 200 * 2.5).

This is assuming a perfect/complete transfer of momentum.  If you start combining masses, included changes in angular momentum, elasticity and friction, it gets a lot more complicated.  For example a smaller sized (not necessarily smaller mass) object is much more likely to hit a larger object off center,  Thus more momentum would be transferred to angular momentum.
 
2013-07-24 12:22:53 PM
Been waiting on this one for awhile, already told the gf I need to see it opening night. Rumor has it the opening scene is twenty minutes without a single cut. I still remember the moment I realized during CoM that 4 minutes had passed without one. That may still be more impressive considering no or minimal cgi but we'll see.
 
2013-07-24 12:29:46 PM

thecpt: Been waiting on this one for awhile, already told the gf I need to see it opening night. Rumor has it the opening scene is twenty minutes without a single cut. I still remember the moment I realized during CoM that 4 minutes had passed without one. That may still be more impressive considering no or minimal cgi but we'll see.


Children of Men had easily one of the best long track scenes in cinema history. This one may be good but sadly in the days of CGI its far too easy to get these into film. Before CGI it took some damn impressive movie making skill by all players involved to get these long track one takes.
 
2013-07-24 12:40:03 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: INeedAName: How long can you handle floating in space before you just say 'to hell with it' and open your mask?

Man that would be one painful way to go out, like seriously I don't think one could even imagine how painful that would be.


That's true. I guess your best bet would be to cut your 02 and die of hypoxia.
 
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