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2013-07-24 09:41:39 AM
The footprints of these weapons are actually quite small.
 
2013-07-24 09:42:57 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: The footprints of these weapons are actually quite small.


Before or after detonation?
 
2013-07-24 09:45:08 AM
All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.
 
2013-07-24 09:52:55 AM
It's instructive to see what you have to do to secure tenure these days.
 
2013-07-24 09:57:42 AM

bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.


I live 30 miles from Wright-Patt AFB. I've been on the "first to get blowed up" list since I was born.
 
2013-07-24 10:04:14 AM

bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.


I grew up walking distance from an airport and went through regular drills with the attack siren. Then they flew F-18s from there, which was cool. The siren is long gone but the concrete slab it was bolted to is still there. I wonder if any of the younger people know what was there 20 years ago?
 
2013-07-24 10:04:35 AM
Noobs.

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2013-07-24 10:09:04 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: The footprints of these weapons are actually quite small.


Thank goodness we have Geiger counters, or our hunters wouldn't be able to track them.
 
2013-07-24 10:09:46 AM
There is no greater expression of human self-loathing as this.
 
2013-07-24 10:11:02 AM

FunkyBlue: bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.

I live 30 miles from Wright-Patt AFB. I've been on the "first to get blowed up" list since I was born.


I live almost exactly between Randolf AFB and Ft Sam Houston...  So I just always assumed that I would be in the radiation fallout zone x2....
 
2013-07-24 10:12:40 AM

Maul555: FunkyBlue: bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.

I live 30 miles from Wright-Patt AFB. I've been on the "first to get blowed up" list since I was born.

I live almost exactly between Randolf AFB and Ft Sam Houston...  So I just always assumed that I would be in the radiation fallout zone x2....


Well, WPAFB was something like #3 on the important targets list for decades. It's fallen, but I believe it's still in the top 10.
 
2013-07-24 10:15:42 AM
Pfffttt! My town is so small it could be completely obliterated by a couple of drunk teen boys lighting their farts. AND do all of $3.17 worth of improvements.
 
2013-07-24 10:22:32 AM
In the 1960s the DoD got a few companies to build low profile nuclear resistant forts to house things far from military installations. I live near one T.I. built in Lewisville. It looks like a light industrial building until you pay attention to the landscaping. It's got a dirt berm around the perimeter that would make a defensible position in a hurry, and if you get in there you realize most of it's underground.

It's now an IT center of some sort, but back in the day it was one of the four or five top nuclear strike targets around Dallas. Provided they had something that could reach this far.
 
2013-07-24 10:28:40 AM

bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.


Yeah I think you'd die of thirst pretty soon followed then by hunger or radiation poisoning. What I find interesting, in a morbid sort of way, is the time it would take to wage a full nuclear war that devastates the planet and all life would be a matter of minutes. It would literally be like "sitting at your desk -> emergency broadcast -> static -> apocalypse all in like 30 minutes.
 
2013-07-24 10:29:50 AM
I've always lived close to DC so I have pretty much accepted the fact I'm farked if the nukes start flying.
 
2013-07-24 10:29:58 AM

FunkyBlue: bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.

I live 30 miles from Wright-Patt AFB. I've been on the "first to get blowed up" list since I was born.


When I was a kid (mid-60s) living at MCAS Cherry Point, we could see the intersections of the two main runways from the back porch of our house in Officer's Country (Hancock Village for those who spent time there). Dad's office overlooked the duty flight line.

Whenever they ran the "nuclear preparedness" drills on TV, he would LOL and have me get him another beer.
 
2013-07-24 10:30:52 AM

chasd00: bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.

Yeah I think you'd die of thirst pretty soon followed then by hunger or radiation poisoning. What I find interesting, in a morbid sort of way, is the time it would take to wage a full nuclear war that devastates the planet and all life would be a matter of minutes. It would literally be like "sitting at your desk -> emergency broadcast -> static -> apocalypse all in like 30 minutes.




But then the Jesus comes.
 
2013-07-24 10:31:55 AM

groppet: I've always lived close to DC so I have pretty much accepted the fact I'm farked if the nukes start flying.


If I were the Russkies or the Chinese or whoever, I'd hit the major military installations and leave DC alone.

The Washington crowd has done a pretty good job of farking up the country, I'd let them continue doing so.
 
2013-07-24 10:39:42 AM

chasd00: bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.

Yeah I think you'd die of thirst pretty soon followed then by hunger or radiation poisoning. What I find interesting, in a morbid sort of way, is the time it would take to wage a full nuclear war that devastates the planet and all life would be a matter of minutes. It would literally be like "sitting at your desk -> emergency broadcast -> static -> apocalypse all in like 30 minutes.


It sort of depends. You need about a gallon of water per day to survive, and you can't go outside for let's assume 2 weeks. In my case, probably 3 gallons a day since I have kids. Having a 30-gallon water heater helps, were I able to transport the water in it without being irradiated to death. I'd already be a roasted radiated skeleton in all likelihood, but...OK there's a water tower nearby that feeds into the supply, so the first thing you'd want to do is fill up your bathtub with cold water (have one in the basement). Bathtub + water heater would hopefully suffice for water.

Foodwise, we've got enough to live on in the pantry for at least a week. Make sure the two younguns are fed, that should be manageable. Then what? Totally screwed.

The radiation problem would by far be the worst.

Seriously though if it happens I'll probably be at work, in which case there aren't many options. We have a soft drink vending machine and some breakroom food, which I'd be sharing with everyone else. Almost no way I can get home before I am fried by radiation.

At that point probably best to just get fireballed into nothingness.
 
2013-07-24 10:41:34 AM
They're trying to say if a 100-megaton nuclear weapon hit Downtown Chicago there would only be 22K dead? That probably like, one or two buildings. That thing fails.
 
2013-07-24 10:43:58 AM

abhorrent1: They're trying to say if a 100-megaton nuclear weapon hit Downtown Chicago there would only be 22K dead? That probably like, one or two buildings. That thing fails.


The blast and radiation would be soaked up by the mounds of under-cooked dough and greasy cheese generally known as "Chicago style pizza." It's better than lead in that regard.

/feels the same in your stomach, too
 
2013-07-24 10:44:56 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: There is no greater expression of human self-loathing as this.


You clearly haven't watched The Batchelor or America's Got Talent.
 
2013-07-24 10:46:26 AM

wildcardjack: In the 1960s the DoD got a few companies to build low profile nuclear resistant forts to house things far from military installations. I live near one T.I. built in Lewisville. It looks like a light industrial building until you pay attention to the landscaping. It's got a dirt berm around the perimeter that would make a defensible position in a hurry, and if you get in there you realize most of it's underground.

It's now an IT center of some sort, but back in the day it was one of the four or five top nuclear strike targets around Dallas. Provided they had something that could reach this far.


Ah, that explains the office building of one of our old customers - a single storey office, with an elaborate basement, containing, among other things, a full size lecture theater. All unused.
I often wondered why.
It's in the Northeast, quite far from NYC.
 
2013-07-24 10:49:34 AM

Valiente: The Batchelor


What's that? Like he's really good with batch files?
 
2013-07-24 10:51:52 AM
ic.pics.livejournal.com
Not impressed.
 
2013-07-24 10:52:52 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: Valiente: The Batchelor

What's that? Like he's really good with batch files?


Naw, that's what we used to call gay guys.

The women were called "librarians."
 
2013-07-24 10:58:24 AM
I live relatively close to an old Minuteman missile silo.  If people had 30 minutes warning, I wonder how many people would think to go there and try to close it up tight.
 
2013-07-24 10:58:40 AM

Tillmaster: wildcardjack: In the 1960s the DoD got a few companies to build low profile nuclear resistant forts to house things far from military installations. I live near one T.I. built in Lewisville. It looks like a light industrial building until you pay attention to the landscaping. It's got a dirt berm around the perimeter that would make a defensible position in a hurry, and if you get in there you realize most of it's underground.

It's now an IT center of some sort, but back in the day it was one of the four or five top nuclear strike targets around Dallas. Provided they had something that could reach this far.

Ah, that explains the office building of one of our old customers - a single storey office, with an elaborate basement, containing, among other things, a full size lecture theater. All unused.
I often wondered why.
It's in the Northeast, quite far from NYC.


L3 (formerly Raytheon or Hughes) in Binghamton?
 
2013-07-24 11:02:48 AM
I live in Canada.  only the crazy terrorists would target us.  The nations with weapons would leave us alone so they could invade once they destroyed the other side and take all our natural resources.
 
2013-07-24 11:02:50 AM
Too bad it won't let me go up to Gigaton range (like Krakatoa power level).  Still found it interesting that if a 100Mt nuke hit Pyongyang, North Korea there would be more casualties than if it hit Bejing China.
 
2013-07-24 11:15:38 AM

OldManDownDRoad: abhorrent1: They're trying to say if a 100-megaton nuclear weapon hit Downtown Chicago there would only be 22K dead? That probably like, one or two buildings. That thing fails.

The blast and radiation would be soaked up by the mounds of under-cooked dough and greasy cheese generally known as "Chicago style pizza." It's better than lead in that regard.

/feels the same in your stomach, too


YOU SHUT YOUR WH... well, you do have a point, I suppose.
 
2013-07-24 11:16:23 AM

FunkyBlue: Maul555: FunkyBlue: bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.

I live 30 miles from Wright-Patt AFB. I've been on the "first to get blowed up" list since I was born.

I live almost exactly between Randolf AFB and Ft Sam Houston...  So I just always assumed that I would be in the radiation fallout zone x2....

Well, WPAFB was something like #3 on the important targets list for decades. It's fallen, but I believe it's still in the top 10.


My Dad was stationed at PAFB, over at the  AFTAC building. He used to tell me that if there was a nuke strike we'd be one of the first to go, he even explained the kill zone area and fallout situation to me. Fun good times.
 
2013-07-24 11:19:59 AM
I grew up in Great Falls, MTin the 70s and 80s -- My Dad and older brother were in the AF. Dad worked on computing systems at Malmstrom AFB, my brother was in Security out in the missile silos.

Used to have nightmares about riding the bus home from school and seeing mushroom clouds on the horizon. Fun times!
 
2013-07-24 11:21:02 AM

OldManDownDRoad: The blast and radiation would be soaked up by the mounds of under-cooked dough and greasy cheese generally known as "Chicago style pizza." It's better than lead in that regard.


Your whore mouth. Shut it.
 
2013-07-24 11:27:34 AM

OldManDownDRoad: groppet: I've always lived close to DC so I have pretty much accepted the fact I'm farked if the nukes start flying.

If I were the Russkies or the Chinese or whoever, I'd hit the major military installations and leave DC alone.

The Washington crowd has done a pretty good job of farking up the country, I'd let them continue doing so.




Agreed. I'd let the puppets continue being puppets.
 
2013-07-24 11:30:01 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: Valiente: The Batchelor

What's that? Like he's really good with batch files?


Hahahahhahha...why, yes.

/dammit
//got distracted by a package of marrowfat peas/really gay commercial
 
2013-07-24 11:47:45 AM
I'm a bit hesitant to put 'Washington, DC' into an internet program that will show me how much devastation will occur. Heck, I didn't even want to write the word nokular in this sentence lest I get a knock at the
 
2013-07-24 11:54:02 AM

chasd00: bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.

Yeah I think you'd die of thirst pretty soon followed then by hunger or radiation poisoning. What I find interesting, in a morbid sort of way, is the time it would take to wage a full nuclear war that devastates the planet and all life would be a matter of minutes. It would literally be like "sitting at your desk -> emergency broadcast -> static -> apocalypse all in like 30 minutes.


It's why I cannot muster any fear of Muslim terrorists. I grew up with decades of movies made and earnest peaceniks, and sci-fi movies saying that ANY MOMENT, all life on earth would be obliterated by all-out nuclear war.
 
2013-07-24 12:00:21 PM

Maul555: FunkyBlue: bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.

I live 30 miles from Wright-Patt AFB. I've been on the "first to get blowed up" list since I was born.

I live almost exactly between Randolf AFB and Ft Sam Houston...  So I just always assumed that I would be in the radiation fallout zone x2....


Don't forget about Kelly and Lackland, and maybe Camp Bullis. I always assumed that if Ivan pushed the button that there was at least MIRV warhead pointed at anything military that was bigger than 7-11.

My uncle always said his plan in the event of WW III was to paint a bullseye on his ass and stand out on the runway at Kelly and yell "Hit me if you can!"

I lived up in the Hill Country and the first disaster plans that were to be implemented in the event of a nuclear exchange was to dynamite the bridges leading into the area. The paperwork I saw is long since gone, but that was the official CD response of Bandera County if the button got pushed. I guess someone figured there would be no aid afterwards or that aid would magically fly across the river gaps.
 
2013-07-24 12:03:04 PM

Fano: chasd00: bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.

Yeah I think you'd die of thirst pretty soon followed then by hunger or radiation poisoning. What I find interesting, in a morbid sort of way, is the time it would take to wage a full nuclear war that devastates the planet and all life would be a matter of minutes. It would literally be like "sitting at your desk -> emergency broadcast -> static -> apocalypse all in like 30 minutes.

It's why I cannot muster any fear of Muslim terrorists. I grew up with decades of movies made and earnest peaceniks, and sci-fi movies saying that ANY MOMENT, all life on earth would be obliterated by all-out nuclear war.




Exactly.
 
2013-07-24 12:15:58 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: The footprints of these weapons are actually quite small.



Until you get in the Megaton range I should be all right.  Luckily I'm not downwind of the predicted fallout.
 
2013-07-24 12:28:12 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Fano: chasd00: bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.

Yeah I think you'd die of thirst pretty soon followed then by hunger or radiation poisoning. What I find interesting, in a morbid sort of way, is the time it would take to wage a full nuclear war that devastates the planet and all life would be a matter of minutes. It would literally be like "sitting at your desk -> emergency broadcast -> static -> apocalypse all in like 30 minutes.

It's why I cannot muster any fear of Muslim terrorists. I grew up with decades of movies made and earnest peaceniks, and sci-fi movies saying that ANY MOMENT, all life on earth would be obliterated by all-out nuclear war.

Exactly.


We used to DREAM about Muslim terrorists slittin' our throats at night and beheading our infidel corpses!

To us, that would be luxury. But you tell that to the kids today, they won't believe you
 
2013-07-24 12:30:14 PM
I'm from San Diego. Every disaster movie ever made has assured me that Los Angeles will take the brunt of any attack in Southern California, despite San Diego's umpteen military bases.
 
2013-07-24 12:37:33 PM

Valiente: StoPPeRmobile: Fano: chasd00: bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.

Yeah I think you'd die of thirst pretty soon followed then by hunger or radiation poisoning. What I find interesting, in a morbid sort of way, is the time it would take to wage a full nuclear war that devastates the planet and all life would be a matter of minutes. It would literally be like "sitting at your desk -> emergency broadcast -> static -> apocalypse all in like 30 minutes.

It's why I cannot muster any fear of Muslim terrorists. I grew up with decades of movies made and earnest peaceniks, and sci-fi movies saying that ANY MOMENT, all life on earth would be obliterated by all-out nuclear war.

Exactly.

We used to DREAM about Muslim terrorists slittin' our throats at night and beheading our infidel corpses!

To us, that would be luxury. But you tell that to the kids today, they won't believe you


There weren't many sci-fi writers that didn't think we'd be fighting the Rooskies until either one million a.d. or the extermination of humanity. Star Trek might have been the lone exception.
 
2013-07-24 12:49:45 PM

Mike Chewbacca: I'm from San Diego. Every disaster movie ever made has assured me that Los Angeles will take the brunt of any attack in Southern California, despite San Diego's umpteen military bases.


I read somewhere about the assumptions behind what would be targets.  It's actually really interesting.

I'm trying to remember but it was assumed that there was a set number of bombs.  And then those were distributed among targets with different priorities.  I think it went something like

1.  Sites that can launch ICBMs.
2. Sites that can launch aircraft that can carry bombs
3. Places that can launch ships that can carry missiles, or planes that carry bombs.
4. military bases
5.  Industrial and manufacturing centers
6. population centers

The thinking was that since there are more than enough bombs and missiles for all those targets many times over, places would be hit many multiple times, and many places of no seeming value other than population would be hit just because they have already dedicated dozens of bombs on priorities 1-5 and there are still left overs to start hitting places in number 6.
 
2013-07-24 01:13:47 PM

manimal2878: Mike Chewbacca: I'm from San Diego. Every disaster movie ever made has assured me that Los Angeles will take the brunt of any attack in Southern California, despite San Diego's umpteen military bases.

I read somewhere about the assumptions behind what would be targets.  It's actually really interesting.

I'm trying to remember but it was assumed that there was a set number of bombs.  And then those were distributed among targets with different priorities.  I think it went something like

1.  Sites that can launch ICBMs.
2. Sites that can launch aircraft that can carry bombs
3. Places that can launch ships that can carry missiles, or planes that carry bombs.
4. military bases
5.  Industrial and manufacturing centers
6. population centers

The thinking was that since there are more than enough bombs and missiles for all those targets many times over, places would be hit many multiple times, and many places of no seeming value other than population would be hit just because they have already dedicated dozens of bombs on priorities 1-5 and there are still left overs to start hitting places in number 6.


So then,

1. San Diego
2. San Diego
3. San Diego
4. San Diego
5. San Diego
6. San Diego

And that's why I always guffaw when LA gets blown up in alien invasion movies.
 
2013-07-24 01:22:45 PM

FunkyBlue: bdub77: All I know is I live within 5 miles of a major airport so...I'm probably totally f*cked if there's an actual nuclear war. Although, if you had three days to prepare, you could build a deep enough bomb shelter pretty easily in your backyard. Soil has pretty good radiation shielding.

Then again you probably wouldn't want to live through a nuclear war anyway.

I live 30 miles from Wright-Patt AFB. I've been on the "first to get blowed up" list since I was born.


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-24 01:37:16 PM
I live in uptown New Orleans, so if anyone ever decides to bomb the Ports here, I'm vapor. Even for the "smallest" nuclear device, I'm a stain on the wall. Best not to live in fear of things I can't prevent.
 
2013-07-24 01:43:37 PM
I live right between Dallas and Fort Worth.  Even at 100 Megatons, I'm surprisingly safe if either Fort Worth or Dallas was hit.  Though I was kind of surprised to not see Dallas on the list of pre-selected targets.
 
2013-07-24 01:51:42 PM

Great Janitor: I live right between Dallas and Fort Worth.  Even at 100 Megatons, I'm surprisingly safe if either Fort Worth or Dallas was hit.  Though I was kind of surprised to not see Dallas on the list of pre-selected targets.


Which would still put the nearest place to have fun at 50+ miles away.

/I miss my friends, but I do not miss DFW...
 
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