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2013-07-24 06:46:49 AM
Hmmm... I'd have to drive way way way past La Madeleine to even try one out.

It's high margin bread, right? Like if Starbucks and Subway had sex?
 
2013-07-24 06:59:39 AM
Their scones are farking delimchous.
 
2013-07-24 07:23:35 AM

wildcardjack: Hmmm... I'd have to drive way way way past La Madeleine to even try one out.

It's high margin bread, right? Like if Starbucks and Subway had sex?




Fraking?
 
2013-07-24 07:29:08 AM

wildcardjack: It's high margin bread, right? Like if Starbucks and Subway had sex?


Bread, sandwiches, soups, and lots of sweet pastry goodies.  For breakfast I recommend the egg souflees, for lunch french onion soup in a sourdough bread bowl, with some butter to finish off the bowl afterwards.
 
2013-07-24 07:47:38 AM
You can only grow so big.  At some point you have to be comfortable with a nice steady market share.
 
2013-07-24 07:47:47 AM
Guess they better reduce costs by getting rid of the free internet.
 
2013-07-24 07:53:05 AM
I would eat there more often if it didn't cost $8 for a tiny sandwich.
 
2013-07-24 08:04:13 AM

flondrix: wildcardjack: It's high margin bread, right? Like if Starbucks and Subway had sex?

Bread, sandwiches, soups, and lots of sweet pastry goodies.  For breakfast I recommend the egg souflees, for lunch french onion soup in a sourdough bread bowl, with some butter to finish off the bowl afterwards.


I'll stick with LaMad... At least it's near Guitar Center.
 
2013-07-24 08:06:08 AM
Bread makes me bloated, I only have to eat four thousand bagels and I can barely stand up.
As a result I demand unholy armageddon to be unleashed upon anyone selling this muck, if I had my own laser gunship I would do it myself but I'm poor.
 
2013-07-24 08:08:59 AM
In other news, I can't believe that Chipotle is back over $400.  Both of these firms keep making profits by simply making better fast food.  I don't know why there aren't more competitors in this market.
 
2013-07-24 08:10:05 AM
So they're far beyond driven?
 
2013-07-24 08:18:55 AM

Rapmaster2000: In other news, I can't believe that Chipotle is back over $400.  Both of these firms keep making profits by simply making better fast food.  I don't know why there aren't more competitors in this market.


The new Asian Chipotle (Shop House) by the same company is amazing. When it goes national I think people will like it more than the Mexican version.
 
2013-07-24 08:53:04 AM
Panera needs to go back to their original recipe for french onion soup. They reformulated it a few months back and while its still decent it has gone from my favorite place (including top steak houses) to get french onion soup to . . . a place that sells passable french onion soup.

french onion soup.
 
2013-07-24 08:56:28 AM
Le Madeleine is one of the few things I miss about living in DC. We have Panera all over the place (drinking a cup of Panera coffee right now). Everything just seemed to taste better at Le Mad.

And, at least around here (Lexington, KY), Qdoba trumps Chipotle....
 
2013-07-24 08:59:25 AM

EvilEgg: You can only grow so big.  At some point you have to be comfortable with a nice steady market share.


Pfft, that's crazy talk. Clearly they have to start cutting costs to artificially raise profits until the chain sucks and goes under. That's the American way.
 
2013-07-24 09:02:29 AM

wooden_badger: Guess they better reduce costs by getting rid of the free internet.


Locally their internet is utter shiat. I'm pretty sure it's a verizon base DSL connection
 
2013-07-24 09:10:20 AM
Crispers > Panera
 
2013-07-24 09:18:41 AM
http://www.fark.com/comments/7856702/85534378#c85534378" target="_blank" data-cke-saved-href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7856702/85534378#c8 5534378">wildcardjack: Hmmm... I'd have to drive way way way past La Madeleine to even try one out.

It's high margin bread, right? Like if Starbucks and Subway had sex?


the times I've been to la madeline I have NOT enjoyed it. I think its because I'm a little picky about what goes on my food, and it feels like their stuff is all pre-made (fresh, but pre-sauced and stuff).

Panera isn't just a bakery- I mostly go for lunch. They have reasonably healthy, not terribly expensive, moderately good food. Plus amazing bakery items to indulge in :)

I do weight watchers, and I feel like its one of the few places I can get lunch on the go healthily (and I don't just mean salads- you can get soup and sandwiches too). Chipotle, believe it or not, is another.
 
2013-07-24 09:19:54 AM

BBtB: Panera needs to go back to their original recipe for french onion soup. They reformulated it a few months back and while its still decent it has gone from my favorite place (including top steak houses) to get french onion soup to . . . a place that sells passable french onion soup.

french onion soup.


I want their old veggie soup back- they redid it like two years ago.
 
2013-07-24 09:29:57 AM

beezeltown: Le Madeleine is one of the few things I miss about living in DC. We have Panera all over the place (drinking a cup of Panera coffee right now). Everything just seemed to taste better at Le Mad.


My wife and I used to love La Madeleine until she went there one day and almost got some added chitinous
protein in her pastry.
 
2013-07-24 09:32:57 AM

Katie98_KT: I do weight watchers, and I feel like its one of the few places I can get lunch on the go healthily




That's why you are on Weight Watchers.
 
2013-07-24 09:35:09 AM

DjangoStonereaver: added chitinous protein


Is that a mold joke? You have to get up to mushrooms before fungii make chitin.
 
2013-07-24 09:41:52 AM

StoPPeRmobile: Katie98_KT: I do weight watchers, and I feel like its one of the few places I can get lunch on the go healthily

That's why you are on Weight Watchers.


No kidding. If you can't find fresh food in small portions in your town, you live in Fatsville, Iowa, or every one of your eating habits is irreversibly fulcked. Really, nobody makes a turkey sandwich on rye bread where you live? Even you?

Try buying some good rye, some tomatoes, some romaine lettuce, and some dijon mustard, and some turkey.
Put the turkey in the bread, put the tomatoes and lettuce with the turkey, and put a little mustard on the inside of the bread. Voila, instant Lunch That Doesn't Make You Fat.

Accompany sandwich with NO DORITOS and NO FUNYUNS. Add 1/2 of an apple, cut in wedges. Drink an iced tea.
 
2013-07-24 09:42:26 AM

wildcardjack: DjangoStonereaver: added chitinous protein

Is that a mold joke? You have to get up to mushrooms before fungii make chitin.


I'm thinking cockroach.

Possibly squid or shellfish, but unlikely.

Calamari kolache sounds... interesting.
 
2013-07-24 09:43:22 AM

ChaoticLimbs: StoPPeRmobile: Katie98_KT: I do weight watchers, and I feel like its one of the few places I can get lunch on the go healthily

That's why you are on Weight Watchers.

No kidding. If you can't find fresh food in small portions in your town, you live in Fatsville, Iowa, or every one of your eating habits is irreversibly fulcked. Really, nobody makes a turkey sandwich on rye bread where you live? Even you?

Try buying some good rye, some tomatoes, some romaine lettuce, and some dijon mustard, and some turkey.
Put the turkey in the bread, put the tomatoes and lettuce with the turkey, and put a little mustard on the inside of the bread. Voila, instant Lunch That Doesn't Make You Fat.

Accompany sandwich with NO DORITOS and NO FUNYUNS. Add 1/2 of an apple, cut in wedges. Drink an iced tea.


and both of you missed "on the go". :)
 
2013-07-24 09:47:35 AM

wildcardjack: Hmmm... I'd have to drive way way way past La Madeleine to even try one out.

It's high margin bread, right? Like if Starbucks and Subway had sex?


Not exactly.  It's fast-casual Marie Callender's.

Corner Bakery has better soups, but Panera has a bigger selection.
 
2013-07-24 09:49:50 AM
Panera sucks, people.

There's a reason you're all fat and buying diet food ain't one of them.
 
2013-07-24 09:51:34 AM

Parthenogenetic: wildcardjack: DjangoStonereaver: added chitinous protein

Is that a mold joke? You have to get up to mushrooms before fungii make chitin.

I'm thinking cockroach.


DING DING DING
 
2013-07-24 09:54:18 AM

Katie98_KT: ChaoticLimbs: StoPPeRmobile: Katie98_KT: I do weight watchers, and I feel like its one of the few places I can get lunch on the go healthily

That's why you are on Weight Watchers.

No kidding. If you can't find fresh food in small portions in your town, you live in Fatsville, Iowa, or every one of your eating habits is irreversibly fulcked. Really, nobody makes a turkey sandwich on rye bread where you live? Even you?

Try buying some good rye, some tomatoes, some romaine lettuce, and some dijon mustard, and some turkey.
Put the turkey in the bread, put the tomatoes and lettuce with the turkey, and put a little mustard on the inside of the bread. Voila, instant Lunch That Doesn't Make You Fat.

Accompany sandwich with NO DORITOS and NO FUNYUNS. Add 1/2 of an apple, cut in wedges. Drink an iced tea.

and both of you missed "on the go". :)




I know, that's why I quoted. Wait a tik...

/stop eating so much
 
2013-07-24 09:57:43 AM
FTFA:  "tends to attract higher-income customers who are willing to pay considerably more for their food"

Ummm, $7 for a salad & 1/2 a sandwich is "considerably more"?  That's roughly the same as diner prices--*if* you can find a diner that does a 1/2 & 1/2 deal.
 
2013-07-24 10:10:04 AM

brigid_fitch: FTFA:  "tends to attract higher-income customers who are willing to pay considerably more for their food"

Ummm, $7 for a salad & 1/2 a sandwich is "considerably more"?  That's roughly the same as diner prices--*if* you can find a diner that does a 1/2 & 1/2 deal.




Don't forget the drink and cookie.
 
2013-07-24 10:10:32 AM
Panera has good quality bread, for sure- but they forgot to put fillings in their sandwiches.  So I started forgetting to go for lunch.
 
2013-07-24 10:23:03 AM

StoPPeRmobile: brigid_fitch: FTFA:  "tends to attract higher-income customers who are willing to pay considerably more for their food"

Ummm, $7 for a salad & 1/2 a sandwich is "considerably more"?  That's roughly the same as diner prices--*if* you can find a diner that does a 1/2 & 1/2 deal.

Don't forget the drink and cookie.


What non-toddler eats a cookie with lunch?
 
2013-07-24 10:27:37 AM

Katie98_KT: ChaoticLimbs: StoPPeRmobile: Katie98_KT: I do weight watchers, and I feel like its one of the few places I can get lunch on the go healthily

That's why you are on Weight Watchers.

No kidding. If you can't find fresh food in small portions in your town, you live in Fatsville, Iowa, or every one of your eating habits is irreversibly fulcked. Really, nobody makes a turkey sandwich on rye bread where you live? Even you?

Try buying some good rye, some tomatoes, some romaine lettuce, and some dijon mustard, and some turkey.
Put the turkey in the bread, put the tomatoes and lettuce with the turkey, and put a little mustard on the inside of the bread. Voila, instant Lunch That Doesn't Make You Fat.

Accompany sandwich with NO DORITOS and NO FUNYUNS. Add 1/2 of an apple, cut in wedges. Drink an iced tea.

and both of you missed "on the go". :)


Word.  Trying to stay thin on the road is a biatch.  I ordered a room service salad last week and it was roughly 2 pounds of lettuce and vegetables along with a whole chicken breast and two huge rolls and butter.   I can only eat half of the tuna salad on wheat at the diner in the customer site.  I probably could get smaller portions in the city, but when you're way out in the burbs you can't.  There's something about the suburbs that makes portion size the primary consideration of restaurant.  I blame the preponderance of chains.
 
2013-07-24 10:31:34 AM

Katie98_KT: I do weight watchers, and I feel like its one of the few places I can get lunch on the go healthily (and I don't just mean salads- you can get soup and sandwiches too). Chipotle, believe it or not, is another.


My husband and I do Panera and Chipotle for health reasons, too. Depending on what you buy, you can get some moderately healthy stuff and look up nutritional information pretty easily, especially at Panera. Plus, the food is relatively fresh and high-quality. We also count most types of sushi (excluding fried rolls, cream cheese rolls, etc.) as a healthy option for eating out.
 
2013-07-24 10:32:41 AM

Rapmaster2000: StoPPeRmobile: brigid_fitch: FTFA:  "tends to attract higher-income customers who are willing to pay considerably more for their food"

Ummm, $7 for a salad & 1/2 a sandwich is "considerably more"?  That's roughly the same as diner prices--*if* you can find a diner that does a 1/2 & 1/2 deal.

Don't forget the drink and cookie.

What non-toddler eats a cookie with lunch?




I'm guessing you never go to the bread place.
 
2013-07-24 10:32:46 AM

Rapmaster2000: StoPPeRmobile: brigid_fitch: FTFA:  "tends to attract higher-income customers who are willing to pay considerably more for their food"

Ummm, $7 for a salad & 1/2 a sandwich is "considerably more"?  That's roughly the same as diner prices--*if* you can find a diner that does a 1/2 & 1/2 deal.

Don't forget the drink and cookie.

What non-toddler eats a cookie with lunch?


What moron turns down a free cookie?
 
2013-07-24 10:33:44 AM
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2013-07-24 10:39:35 AM

Rapmaster2000: StoPPeRmobile: brigid_fitch: FTFA:  "tends to attract higher-income customers who are willing to pay considerably more for their food"

Ummm, $7 for a salad & 1/2 a sandwich is "considerably more"?  That's roughly the same as diner prices--*if* you can find a diner that does a 1/2 & 1/2 deal.

Don't forget the drink and cookie.

What non-toddler eats a cookie with lunch?


Do you remember exactly when you started hating life? ;)

/gets a cookie and sometimes a shake with lunch
 
2013-07-24 10:42:21 AM

bhcompy: What moron turns down a free cookie?


The non-fatass kind.

To adults, cookies taste like overly sweet shat. Any adult that likes cookies obviously has no will power to stop stuffing their pie-hole with ever sweeter confections. This is indicative of very serious character flaws.
 
2013-07-24 10:45:53 AM

impaler: bhcompy: What moron turns down a free cookie?

The non-fatass kind.

To adults, cookies taste like overly sweet shat. Any adult that likes cookies obviously has no will power to stop stuffing their pie-hole with ever sweeter confections. This is indicative of very serious character flaws.


Yes, because having a sweet of any kind means you're fat and unable to control your eating habits.  I'll take Unreasonable Extrapolations for $100, Alex

Or, conversely, you factor that in to your total caloric intake along with regular exercise and balanced diet and a cookie has no affect whatsoever.
 
2013-07-24 10:47:53 AM

Carth: Rapmaster2000: StoPPeRmobile: brigid_fitch: FTFA:  "tends to attract higher-income customers who are willing to pay considerably more for their food"

Ummm, $7 for a salad & 1/2 a sandwich is "considerably more"?  That's roughly the same as diner prices--*if* you can find a diner that does a 1/2 & 1/2 deal.

Don't forget the drink and cookie.

What non-toddler eats a cookie with lunch?

Do you remember exactly when you started hating life? ;)

/gets a cookie and sometimes a shake with lunch


If I'm going to step up to a treat, I go for the pickle.

I choose high blood pressure over diabetes.
 
2013-07-24 10:58:20 AM

bhcompy: To adults, cookies taste like overly sweet shat. Any adult that likes cookies obviously has no will power to stop stuffing their pie-hole with ever sweeter confections. This is indicative of very serious character flaws.

Yes, because having a sweet of any kind means you're fat and unable to control your eating habits.  I'll take Unreasonable Extrapolations for $100, Alex

Or, conversely, you factor that in to your total caloric intake along with regular exercise and balanced diet and a cookie has no affect whatsoever.


Anything more than a couple bites of a cookie will taste awful if your adult taste buds are collaborated correctly. If you can finish a cookie, and enjoy doing it, it means your taste-buds have been numbed to the taste of sugar. Usually this is from pounding drinks containing large amounts of real or artificial sweeteners.
 
2013-07-24 10:58:33 AM

Rapmaster2000: Carth: Rapmaster2000: StoPPeRmobile: brigid_fitch: FTFA:  "tends to attract higher-income customers who are willing to pay considerably more for their food"

Ummm, $7 for a salad & 1/2 a sandwich is "considerably more"?  That's roughly the same as diner prices--*if* you can find a diner that does a 1/2 & 1/2 deal.

Don't forget the drink and cookie.

What non-toddler eats a cookie with lunch?

Do you remember exactly when you started hating life? ;)

/gets a cookie and sometimes a shake with lunch

If I'm going to step up to a treat, I go for the pickle.

I choose high blood pressure over diabetes.


A cookie??  You already get choice of an apple, chips, or bread with that $7.  As for the drink, I will usually get a small iced tea for an extra $1 and it has free refills.  So, with a drink AND snack, my lunch is a whopping $8.  Still fairly close to diner prices.  I don't understand the article calling Panera a high-income place.  Most of the people in there at lunch are moms taking a break from shopping and the rest of us office drones.
 
2013-07-24 11:09:18 AM

ChaoticLimbs: StoPPeRmobile: Katie98_KT: I do weight watchers, and I feel like its one of the few places I can get lunch on the go healthily

That's why you are on Weight Watchers.

No kidding. If you can't find fresh food in small portions in your town, you live in Fatsville, Iowa, or every one of your eating habits is irreversibly fulcked. Really, nobody makes a turkey sandwich on rye bread where you live? Even you?

Try buying some good rye, some tomatoes, some romaine lettuce, and some dijon mustard, and some turkey.
Put the turkey in the bread, put the tomatoes and lettuce with the turkey, and put a little mustard on the inside of the bread. Voila, instant Lunch That Doesn't Make You Fat.

Accompany sandwich with NO DORITOS and NO FUNYUNS. Add 1/2 of an apple, cut in wedges. Drink an iced tea.


I work in the heart of Central Jersey, surrounded by huge office buildings & one of the busiest train stations in the state.  There are NO DELIS IN A 3-MILE RADIUS of my office.  None.  Nowhere where you can just pick up a soup & a turkey sandwich.  Plenty of convenience stores, Subways, fast food places, and more Indian restaurants you can shake a stick at, but not one deli.  Panera's the closest thing.

And I don't understand the snark against the Weight Watchers comment.  I can get a turkey & swiss on rye, pickle spear, apple, and an iced tea for $7.  AND I can find a nice quiet table & read my book.  That beats a deli any day.
 
2013-07-24 11:32:16 AM

impaler: bhcompy: To adults, cookies taste like overly sweet shat. Any adult that likes cookies obviously has no will power to stop stuffing their pie-hole with ever sweeter confections. This is indicative of very serious character flaws.

Yes, because having a sweet of any kind means you're fat and unable to control your eating habits.  I'll take Unreasonable Extrapolations for $100, Alex

Or, conversely, you factor that in to your total caloric intake along with regular exercise and balanced diet and a cookie has no affect whatsoever.

Anything more than a couple bites of a cookie will taste awful if your adult taste buds are collaborated correctly. If you can finish a cookie, and enjoy doing it, it means your taste-buds have been numbed to the taste of sugar. Usually this is from pounding drinks containing large amounts of real or artificial sweeteners.


Last I tried to check the calibration of my tastebuds, the screen display broke and the jack for my tool had a bit of peanut butter in it, so I couldn't check.  Thanks for letting me know that I'm broken
 
2013-07-24 11:33:04 AM

brigid_fitch: ChaoticLimbs: StoPPeRmobile: Katie98_KT: I do weight watchers, and I feel like its one of the few places I can get lunch on the go healthily

That's why you are on Weight Watchers.

No kidding. If you can't find fresh food in small portions in your town, you live in Fatsville, Iowa, or every one of your eating habits is irreversibly fulcked. Really, nobody makes a turkey sandwich on rye bread where you live? Even you?

Try buying some good rye, some tomatoes, some romaine lettuce, and some dijon mustard, and some turkey.
Put the turkey in the bread, put the tomatoes and lettuce with the turkey, and put a little mustard on the inside of the bread. Voila, instant Lunch That Doesn't Make You Fat.

Accompany sandwich with NO DORITOS and NO FUNYUNS. Add 1/2 of an apple, cut in wedges. Drink an iced tea.

I work in the heart of Central Jersey, surrounded by huge office buildings & one of the busiest train stations in the state.  There are NO DELIS IN A 3-MILE RADIUS of my office.  None.  Nowhere where you can just pick up a soup & a turkey sandwich.  Plenty of convenience stores, Subways, fast food places, and more Indian restaurants you can shake a stick at, but not one deli.  Panera's the closest thing.

And I don't understand the snark against the Weight Watchers comment.  I can get a turkey & swiss on rye, pickle spear, apple, and an iced tea for $7.  AND I can find a nice quiet table & read my book.  That beats a deli any day.




Weight Watchers is a waste of money and is for lazy, fat people.

Stop eating so much.
 
2013-07-24 01:40:36 PM
impaler:
"Anything more than a couple bites of a cookie will taste awful if your adult taste buds are collaborated correctly. If you can finish a cookie, and enjoy doing it, it means your taste-buds have been numbed to the taste of sugar. Usually this is from pounding drinks containing large amounts of real or artificial sweeteners."

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2013-07-24 07:27:47 PM
I've tried to like Panera Bread, I really have. But their salads are just vile. I mean, is it that hard to cut up the lettuce before serving it instead of three weeks in advance? If I wanted to eat compost I'd go to the bin out back.
 
2013-07-24 11:15:01 PM
impaler putting on a master class in trolling....or just being a complete a##hole. either one.
 
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