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(Rolling Stone)   Matt Taibbi - Explaining the Rolling Stone Cover, by a Boston Native   (rollingstone.com) divider line 198
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2013-07-23 08:44:30 PM
I don't get the controversy at all. They put a picture of a terrorist on the cover and right there on the cover they called him a monster. And?
 
2013-07-23 08:52:43 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I don't get the controversy at all. They put a picture of a terrorist on the cover and right there on the cover they called him a monster. And?


Apparently his picture makes a lot of people with deep-seeded problems want to f*ck that sexy motherf*cker or something and so they're upset about it.
 
2013-07-23 09:05:12 PM

kronicfeld: Three Crooked Squirrels: I don't get the controversy at all. They put a picture of a terrorist on the cover and right there on the cover they called him a monster. And?

Apparently his picture makes a lot of people with deep-seeded problems want to f*ck that sexy motherf*cker or something and so they're upset about it.


People want the media to present the facts in a way that fits the narrative in their heads. Just like when they tune in their favorite cable news network.
 
2013-07-23 09:15:22 PM
People are upset at the idea that a Muslim jihadist might look like one of us.
 
2013-07-23 09:16:05 PM

kronicfeld: Three Crooked Squirrels: I don't get the controversy at all. They put a picture of a terrorist on the cover and right there on the cover they called him a monster. And?

Apparently his picture makes a lot of people with deep-seeded problems want to f*ck that sexy motherf*cker or something and so they're upset about it.


I thought it was pic of a young Bob Dylan. Anyway, what about freedom of the press? Let the free market sort it out?
 
2013-07-23 09:18:08 PM

edmo: kronicfeld: Three Crooked Squirrels: I don't get the controversy at all. They put a picture of a terrorist on the cover and right there on the cover they called him a monster. And?

Apparently his picture makes a lot of people with deep-seeded problems want to f*ck that sexy motherf*cker or something and so they're upset about it.

People want the media to present the facts in a way that fits the narrative in their heads. Just like when they tune in their favorite cable news network.


Exactly.
 
2013-07-23 09:22:22 PM
all the explaining is bullsh*t. they did it because they knew it would create controversy, spark arguments and that could possibly lead to increased sales.  but it could also lead to people getting mad and cost them sales. they took a gamble... and i don't really give a fark if the end result is more or less sales.
 
2013-07-23 09:29:35 PM

kronicfeld: Apparently his picture makes a lot of people with deep-seeded problems want to f*ck that sexy motherf*cker or something and so they're upset about it.


http://grammarist.com/usage/deep-seeded-deep-seated/

/for what it's worth
 
2013-07-23 09:34:44 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I don't get the controversy at all. They put a picture of a terrorist on the cover and right there on the cover they called him a monster. And?


America doesn't like the fact that he looked like an average white boy who wouldn't be out of place in their suburb instead of Osama bin Laden.
 
2013-07-23 09:43:28 PM

edmo: kronicfeld: Three Crooked Squirrels: I don't get the controversy at all. They put a picture of a terrorist on the cover and right there on the cover they called him a monster. And?

Apparently his picture makes a lot of people with deep-seeded problems want to f*ck that sexy motherf*cker or something and so they're upset about it.

People want the media to present the facts in a way that fits the narrative in their heads. Just like when they tune in their favorite cable news network.


Pretty much this. It the same reason that the Godwin's law exists. People want one-dimensional villains, but that's not often the case, so we act like anything associated with them must be just as horrible and ugly. This cover bring that cognitive dissonance to the surface.
 
2013-07-23 09:50:12 PM
Bigger news: Matt Taibbi writes a complete piece without any ham-fisted profanity strewn about. I like the guy's passion and drive for the full story, but he always diminished his tone to "petulant zine editor" with the poorly-employed swearing.

Maybe as a Navy vet I have too high standards for cursing.
 
2013-07-23 10:11:08 PM
I grew up in the Boston area, spent my whole early life there. To this day I'm a maniacal fan of Boston sports teams

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WHOOO!! Go Sports Teams!
 
2013-07-23 10:12:41 PM
FTA:  investigative journalism has been so dramatically de-emphasized at the major newspapers and at the big television news networks, Rolling Stone's role as a source of hard-news reporting

Srsly?
Stopped reading right there.
 
2013-07-23 10:13:17 PM
HEY ROLLING STONE!

WHO MURDERED MICHAEL HASTINGS?
 
2013-07-23 10:14:12 PM
Could this be more of a non-issue?

Other than that teen mom taking it up the ass on camera, I can't think of anything that is so irrelevant to the overall narrative and importance of a story.
 
2013-07-23 10:14:23 PM
Tsarnaev is a sexy motherfarker.
 
2013-07-23 10:15:26 PM
Hey, frat boy journalism. Sweet.
 
2013-07-23 10:15:29 PM

djkutch: kronicfeld: Three Crooked Squirrels: I don't get the controversy at all. They put a picture of a terrorist on the cover and right there on the cover they called him a monster. And?

Apparently his picture makes a lot of people with deep-seeded problems want to f*ck that sexy motherf*cker or something and so they're upset about it.

I thought it was pic of a young Bob Dylan. Anyway, what about freedom of the press? Let the free market sort it out?


I don't think anyone is saying to censor them (I could be wrong), but aren't the boycotts, etc., the market in action? People don't like the issue so they're punishing (or tryiing to) RS by not buying it and cancelling subscriptions and what not.

To my mind, everything is working as it is supposed to:  RS can try to sell their magazine, and people aren't buying it and protesting.
 
2013-07-23 10:15:54 PM

phlegmmo: kronicfeld: Apparently his picture makes a lot of people with deep-seeded problems want to f*ck that sexy motherf*cker or something and so they're upset about it.

http://grammarist.com/usage/deep-seeded-deep-seated/

/for what it's worth


THANK YOU.
 
2013-07-23 10:17:41 PM

miss diminutive: Could this be more of a non-issue?

Other than that teen mom taking it up the ass on camera, I can't think of anything that is so irrelevant to the overall narrative and importance of a story.


whoa whoa.. that teen mom taking it up the ass was pretty compelling ..
 
2013-07-23 10:17:56 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I don't get the controversy at all. They put a picture of a terrorist on the cover and right there on the cover they called him a monster. And?


Yeah they called him a monster but didn't OJ'ify him the way Time did 15 years ago.

Despite cries of hearing the "full/real story" we still want our propaganda.
 
2013-07-23 10:20:24 PM

edmo: People want the media to present the facts in a way that fits the narrative in their heads. Just like when they tune in their favorite cable news network.


Rincewind53: People are upset at the idea that a Muslim jihadist might look like one of us.


These.
 
2013-07-23 10:21:24 PM

rkiller1: FTA:  investigative journalism has been so dramatically de-emphasized at the major newspapers and at the big television news networks, Rolling Stone's role as a source of hard-news reporting

Srsly?
Stopped reading right there.


Yes. What's factually wrong about that statement?
 
2013-07-23 10:22:00 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Tsarnaev is a sexy motherfarker.


I don't know.  He looks a little mineral deficient.
 
2013-07-23 10:22:12 PM

miss diminutive: Could this be more of a non-issue?

Other than that teen mom taking it up the ass on camera, I can't think of anything that is so irrelevant to the overall narrative and importance of a story.


If she does anal, how did the teen mom get preggers in the first place?
/Health class lied to me.
 
2013-07-23 10:22:44 PM
Rolling Stone wanted someone to talk about their dying rag of a magazine.
 
2013-07-23 10:23:24 PM

rkiller1: miss diminutive: Could this be more of a non-issue?

Other than that teen mom taking it up the ass on camera, I can't think of anything that is so irrelevant to the overall narrative and importance of a story.

If she does anal, how did the teen mom get preggers in the first place?
/Health class lied to me.


Well, there's bound to be some splash-back.
 
2013-07-23 10:23:51 PM
As long as it's a real picture, I'm fine with whatever they want to use.
 
2013-07-23 10:23:56 PM
I'm glad Matt Taibi wrote this. First of all, he's a very good blogger and writer for Rolling Stone, one of their best voices. He speaks his mind very well and he's not afraid to call his employer out if they do something dumb.

Secondly, the outrage over this isn't real -- it's manufactured for the news cycle. The pundits crucifying Rolling Stoneare, ironically enough, the ones who are taking advantage of the situation.  Rolling Stone just wrote up a cover story and used an attractive and engaging image to draw eyeballs. The cable news channels, bloggers and pundits who are making hay are doing the despicable stuff.

It's pretty clear that even though Rolling Stone is old media, it's one of those publications that isn't taken seriously (despite being an excellent source of investigative journalism over the years, particularly during the Bush and Obama era) and which isn't well-understood by non-readers. Taibi addresses that pretty well, and it's too bad more people aren't reading his work.
 
2013-07-23 10:24:58 PM
I don't think he's a muslim jihadi as much as a bored, entitled American shiathead.  A Klebold.
 
2013-07-23 10:25:14 PM
If this (or any) cover of the Rolling Stone offends you, then you need to reevaluate your priorities.
 
2013-07-23 10:26:27 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I don't get the controversy at all. They put a picture of a terrorist on the cover and right there on the cover they called him a monster. And?


Yeah, I don't understand it either. They're not making excuses or playing for sympathy, it's just an honest article about how somebody becomes a terrorist.
 
2013-07-23 10:26:56 PM
miss diminutive:
Other than that teen mom taking it up the ass on camera...

Go on...
 
2013-07-23 10:27:37 PM

miss diminutive: rkiller1: miss diminutive: Could this be more of a non-issue?

Other than that teen mom taking it up the ass on camera, I can't think of anything that is so irrelevant to the overall narrative and importance of a story.

If she does anal, how did the teen mom get preggers in the first place?
/Health class lied to me.

Well, there's bound to be some splash-back.


Oh, like tile above the kitchen sink.  it just sunk in.
 
2013-07-23 10:28:50 PM
Man, Shel Silverstien had it all wrong.

Obscure?

\sure as hell shouldn't be
 
2013-07-23 10:28:50 PM
When will this country actually care about something that matters.
 
2013-07-23 10:30:50 PM

max_pooper: Man, Shel Silverstien had it all wrong.


Phew, the sidewalk doesn't end.
 
2013-07-23 10:30:53 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I don't get the controversy at all. They put a picture of a terrorist on the cover and right there on the cover they called him a monster. And?


And thereby gave him even more media exposure than before. When someone behaves violently in a bid to get everyone's attention, it's wildly irresponsible to reward them by giving them extra free publicity.
 
2013-07-23 10:30:58 PM
Anybody who is going to buy Rolling Stone is not going to give a sh*t about any stupid controversy-of-the-afternoon bullsh*t perpetuated by our exceedingly bored and astonishingly useless media.

24-hour cable news will be the death of our society.  It's a f*cking plague.
 
2013-07-23 10:32:09 PM
So wait. The Boston Bomber did a cover of a Rolling Stones song? What's happening?
 
2013-07-23 10:32:33 PM
www.gannett-cdn.com
 
2013-07-23 10:32:37 PM
Rolling Stone's got no need to defend itself over the cover. As mentioned above, an explanation about what Hastings was working on would be more enlightening.
 
2013-07-23 10:32:38 PM
some people think that rolling stone is just a celebrity and entertainment magazine that has articles about cute pop stars and cool movie actors.  so to put him on the cover would be offensive, it would be like putting timothy mcveigh on the cover of tiger beat.  but those people don't actually read the magazine.  rolling stone does investigative journalism too.  this "controversy" is more about ignorance of rolling stone's normal content than anything else.
 
2013-07-23 10:32:45 PM
Rolling Stone is better at news than all of the TV networks combined.
Anything the networks can do to try and belittle it is going to be done.
 
2013-07-23 10:32:45 PM

inntheory: When will this country actually care about something that matters.


I'm still waiting to hear more about the teen mom who takes it up the ass on camera.
 
2013-07-23 10:36:26 PM

phlegmmo: kronicfeld: Apparently his picture makes a lot of people with deep-seeded problems want to f*ck that sexy motherf*cker or something and so they're upset about it.

http://grammarist.com/usage/deep-seeded-deep-seated/

/for what it's worth


Off topic: I had no idea this website exists. Not sure how i missed it. I do a lot of technical writing and this would be helpful. Thanks!

Elements of Style is by far my fav but I like to investigate new resources
 
2013-07-23 10:36:27 PM

God-is-a-Taco: Rolling Stone is better at news than all of the TV networks combined.
Anything the networks can do to try and belittle it is going to be done.


Bullshiat. There's like one guy writing anything worth reading at that magazine and the rest is US Weekly grade idiocy.
 
2013-07-23 10:36:57 PM
Matt Taibbi, with sweat and a dead man's balls
 
2013-07-23 10:38:14 PM

HotWingAgenda: Three Crooked Squirrels: I don't get the controversy at all. They put a picture of a terrorist on the cover and right there on the cover they called him a monster. And?

And thereby gave him even more media exposure than before. When someone behaves violently in a bid to get everyone's attention, it's wildly irresponsible to reward them by giving them extra free publicity.


Really? The media shouldn't report on terrorists? Should we pretend they don't exist? Or should we assume a certain percentage will just become terrorists no matter what and not bother finding out what drives people to murder? Is ignorance always the best answer then?
 
2013-07-23 10:38:30 PM

tylerdurden217: If this (or any) cover of the Rolling Stone offends you, then you need to reevaluate your priorities.


assets.rollingstone.com
 
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