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(Fox 23 Tulsa)   House Republicans decide that people don't need mail delivered to their homes anymore, propose new neighborhood "cluster boxes." If only there was a word to insert between "cluster" and "boxes" that would describe the probable results   (fox23.com) divider line 46
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2013-07-23 10:20:12 PM
5 votes:

TommyymmoT: I live on the corner.
Does this mean I'm going to have 20 mailboxes on my front lawn?


Yes. But that just means you can become a mail tyrant by imposing a mail toll.
2013-07-23 08:03:13 PM
4 votes:
Subby sounds stupid and lazy.
2013-07-24 12:05:24 AM
3 votes:
Fustercluck?
www.theblindcard.com
2013-07-24 12:03:12 AM
3 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-07-23 09:38:14 PM
3 votes:
Anything that makes it harder for hillbillies in the sticks to communicate with the outside world is good in my book.
2013-07-23 08:24:24 PM
3 votes:

vossiewulf: Fark those invalids anyway for making the bad choice to be disabled.


Especially the growing number of senior citizens that are too chicken shiat to walk down icy sidewalks in winter, just because they're afraid of breaking a stupid hip.
2013-07-23 08:11:33 PM
3 votes:

Barfmaker: God forbid you'd have to walk down the street for your mail.

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Fark those invalids anyway for making the bad choice to be disabled.
2013-07-23 07:59:11 PM
3 votes:
God forbid you'd have to walk down the street for your mail.

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2013-07-24 12:05:44 AM
2 votes:
If its a totally proper cluster box, they have these slots in them that you put all your junk mail, then the mail carrier comes along the next time and takes out all the junk mail and delivers it to the station for recycling.

/Or is that the outgoing mail slot?
//Meh, any old slot in a storm and you don't get busted for littering.
2013-07-24 12:02:48 AM
2 votes:
I think we could save millions if not billions by systematically publically executing all GOPers and just taking their shiat.
2013-07-23 11:56:01 PM
2 votes:
Let's just dismantle the entire country because it's what Jesus would have really wanted, had he been a racist white person who grew up in the late-twentieth century America and had little to no access to facts, ignored any contradictory information that confused him, and felt his privileged position in society being eroded by people who rightly called him out on how badly he was desperately grasping onto an imaginary America that existed only inside the minds of the corporate interests who wanted to pay less taxes.

See you in church on Sunday, farkwits.
2013-07-23 10:20:20 PM
2 votes:

HighOnCraic: CraicBaby: Yeah, a lot of newer neighborhoods already have those. They still deliver packages to your door, though, if it won't fit in the mailbox.

You have a weird name.

/Just thought I'd point that out.


YOU! People always think I'm you and I get really confused when they biatch at me for something and I have no idea what they're talking about.
2013-07-23 08:52:17 PM
2 votes:

optikeye: Geeze...The GOP is really trying to drive America into third world country territory. No space program, no education, no roads, no research.


Yep, and the massive concentration of wealth at the very top.  It is shameful they've been able to take their plan as far as they have already.

Meanwhile you have complete ignorant farksticks saying Obama is deliberately trying to tear the country apart (they never do give a reason why he may want to do that though; they just say that he is.)
2013-07-23 08:47:38 PM
2 votes:
Geeze...The GOP is really trying to drive America into third world country territory. No space program, no education, no roads, no research.
2013-07-23 08:35:28 PM
2 votes:

Shadowknight: Somehow, I don't think this is going to work in all places in the US.


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What, not everyone lives in NYC or nearby?
2013-07-23 08:30:29 PM
2 votes:
Somehow, I don't think this is going to work in all places in the US.


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2013-07-25 01:02:55 PM
1 votes:

midigod: serial_crusher: It's not just an "I don't use it" thing.  It's obsolete.

I'd say that a service that delivers 132 Billion pieces of mail a year is far from obsolete.


Don't cloud the issues with the facts.
2013-07-24 04:23:30 PM
1 votes:
Reclassify going to the mailbox as "physical therapy" for the old people, and boom! Two problems solved.

Here to help.
2013-07-24 02:49:38 PM
1 votes:

Lsherm: Crapinoleum: Lsherm: log_jammin: Lsherm: Too expensive for the result.

riiight.

It costs $353 per stop for a delivery in most American cities, taking into account such things as salaries and cost of transport. By contrast, curbside mail box delivery costs $224, while cluster boxes cost $160, according to a report from the Postal Service's Office of Inspector General.

You're a wastrel or an idiot.

Per day?  Per year?  There's a lot of missing information there, Lou, but it makes for impressive scare mongering.

Per stop, it's right there.  As in, every time a postman stops to deliver mail, that's what it costs for each unit.


Really? So five stops per week, 52 weeks per year, means my house costs 91,780 dollars per year? Wow. That means the 34 thousand houses in my town are costing the USPS more than 3 billion dollars per year? Holy crap. 3 billion dollars just to deliver the mail to a single town in suburban new jersey. no wonder they're having trouble making ends meet.

Or maybe you're just full of shiat
2013-07-24 10:50:14 AM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: Dog Welder: serial_crusher: ajeoae: As many of you already mentioned.  This is another GOP fabricated issue as the real reason the USPS is losing money is the PAEA of 2006 that their product is obsolete.   If the USPS didn't have to prefund retiree benefits (which absolutely no other institution or enterprise would do in their right minds) the USPS would actually be turning a profit right now, and racking up massive tax burden for your grandchildren.

FTFY.  You can complain about the PAEA all you want, but it's there for a reason.  The USPS has been on its way out ever since people stopped sending mail in the 1990s.  Long after the post office delivers its last dead tree, those employees are still going to be retired, and they're still going to want the benefits they were promised.
But why plan ahead right?  We'll just let it be somebody else's problem.

Except that people have not stopped sending mail.  Personal letters are certainly no longer a thing, but there are still parcels, financial documents and other assorted bits (not just junk mail) that require the postal service.  And as it's been pointed out repeatedly throughout this thread, the private sector (UPS and FedEx) rely heavily upon the USPS' infrastructure to help them deliver packages.

You know how much I wish I could get my financial crap and legal documents through email instead of snail mail?  Have them be searchable and instantly accessible at the end of the year when I'm doing my taxes?
Just because those industries haven't modernized yet, do you really think they won't within the next 75 years?

I'm fine with the government spending tax money on infrastructure to keep packages moving around (even though 3D printing is going to cut into that business too...).  But the idea that you need a guy coming to your door every day is laughable, as is the idea that it will magically pay for itself.


And yet when the USPS suggested cutting Saturday delivery, the House GOP told them they couldn't do that.

There are many other government agencies looking to be obsolete within the next 75 years, yet NOT ONE of them needs to fund their pension and health benefits for the next 75 years.  There is no company and no other government agency in the entire world that is hamstrung with that specific requirement.

For whatever reason, the GOP is trying to kill off a vital government function.  Just because YOU do not see a need for the USPS it does not mean there is no need for the USPS.

Get rid of the USPS and you will see shipping costs in this company skyrocket.  It will farking kill small businesses and put huge dents into the profit margins of many corporations.

But let's not think too far ahead, because I'm sure the GOP will find a way to blame Obama.
2013-07-24 07:46:42 AM
1 votes:
I see a lot of people didn't read TFA.

They aren't thinking of stopping curbside mail delivery (i.e. at your mailbox). They're considering ending the postman who walks from door to door and shoves the mail through a slot in the door, or puts it in a box at your door.

/since it's a Republican supported idea though, I immediately question the intent behind this
2013-07-24 07:39:21 AM
1 votes:

Barfmaker: God forbid you'd have to walk down the street for your mail.

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Mommy? can I go get the mail?

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2013-07-24 06:40:54 AM
1 votes:

Notabunny: fta According to a recent report from the Postal Service's Office of the Inspector General, ending door-to-door delivery would save $4.5 billion a year.

How? I can guess, but I'd like to hear it from a Republican. And please explain how this fits into your Jobs!Jobs!Jobs! agenda.


A) It would help the post office stay solvent, keeping all of those grocery store ad companies in business. The mail man in my neighborhood can deliver to all of the houses in about 20min. No way he could be that efficient having to go door to door.

B) those new cluster mail boxes aren't going to build or install themselves.
2013-07-24 04:20:56 AM
1 votes:

Gordon Bennett: HighOnCraic: CraicBaby: Yeah, a lot of newer neighborhoods already have those. They still deliver packages to your door, though, if it won't fit in the mailbox.

You have a weird name.

/Just thought I'd point that out.

I'll let you two craicers sort that one out on your own.


That's craicist.
2013-07-24 02:43:53 AM
1 votes:

Barfmaker: God forbid you'd have to walk down the street for your mail.

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Funny that you would use a picture of a "Supermailbox" to make the point that this is a kerfuffle about nothing.

Back in the 80s when those were introduced in new housing developments, Canadians were in an uproar about the decline in services, how people would have to (gasp!) get out of their homes to get mail etc.

As per the wisdom of <b>Jeff></b>, they got over it.
2013-07-24 01:50:41 AM
1 votes:

vygramul: OhioUGrad: Will the GOP take turns trying to name these USPS cluster boxes like they did post offices?

They will all be named after Ronald Reagan.


Yeah, I get my mail delivered to F**knut Memorial Cluster Box #65949
2013-07-24 01:43:51 AM
1 votes:

Lsherm: Liberals:  keep pretending money grows on trees.


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The word you are looking for is "conservatives". Conservatives.
2013-07-24 01:13:38 AM
1 votes:

theflatline: I order everything online except food or something I need right away, and I pay for the post office, fed ex, or ups to bring it.   The post office could make profit, just like the other two do, but they government will not let it, they want to piece it off to the private sector.


Not quite. The difference between the USPS and FedEx and UPS is that the USPS MUST deliver to every address anywhere in the United States and its Territories. You want to send a letter to some yahoo living out in east bumfark Montana, just past where the dirt road ends? The post office HAS to deliver there. UPS and FedEx will laugh in your face.

Since the USPS has to maintain capability (and that costs money) in places that rarely get business, they could NEVER be competitive, on the whole.
2013-07-24 01:06:40 AM
1 votes:

Fecal Conservative: Barfmaker: 2xhelix: Barfmaker: Do you really think that senior citizens stay holed up all winter never leaving their houses?

Many sadly do or only go out when they have someone to drive them somewhere.  Just ask anyone who volunteers with Meals On Wheels.

I suspect you're being purposely obtuse in missing my point however to play your game, if someone is game enough to bring a meal to these shut-ins, don't you think they'd pop across the street to check the mail once in a while?

Or wouldn't their son/daughter who visits once a week/two weeks do it?

Because if nobody will do that for them and they can't do it themselves, then would they even be living in their homes alone in the first place? Who clears their walkway?

We're speaking of senior citizens here, not cripples or invalids (regardless of age). My friends who are both 73 are leaving for another trip to Europe in another week. They golf regularly when they're not travelling. They are, in my experience, normal for their age.

Maybe elderly Canadians are much different from the elderly in your country but, while we have invalids here of every age, being a senior citizen doesn't seem to be a debilitating condition on its own.

We also have Meals On Wheels and in many cases centralized mailboxes and our society hasn't crumbled. Noticeably.

It sounds like you have very limited experience with the elderly. Some labour under dementia and cannot leave their home well even though they are able bodied. One poor man I saw helped into assisted living ate only beans in his house for 6 months. He was all alone after his wife of 72 years died. He outlived all of his family and friends.


Don't you realize that Canadians are the all wise and powerful beings that are truly masters of the universe?   There is no dementia, parkinsons, or disease that befall the Canadian elderly.  There diet of poutine and daily curling matches allow them to not go gently into that good night.

CSB time.  Last sunday I was in Bogota, Colombia seating a brew pub with an English man, three swiss guys, 1 Colombian girl, and my Colombian ass.

This girl comes over to our table and starts speaking to the english fellow in very poor spanish and he answers her back in good spanish, albeit with his english accent.  She turns to her friends and says in English"I am having a hard time understanding Colombians and their horrible spanish."  My English friend who looks like your typical englishman says "you silly twat, I am farking english".  And then I let her know that Colombian spanish is one of the  purest forms in Latin America. She was from Quebec, but my experience with Canadians in the US, is much better than the ones who ones you meet outside the country.
2013-07-24 12:57:35 AM
1 votes:
Right wing troll accounts:
Listen.  I know you guys are trolls and love "pissing off the libs" and arguing against anything "a lib" is in favor of.

But please, look at this from a matter of helping the conservative / Republican party.  Do you realize how batshiat crazy pissed off this type of proposal will make old people?  Old people, who are a fairly core and reliable Republican voting block?

Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, and moderates:
Just let the Republicans run with this.  It won't make it past the Senate and it will give all the Democrats next election the ability to run on a platform of "Republicans want to stop the elderly from getting mail delivery at home and we're the only thing protecting it."
2013-07-24 12:18:39 AM
1 votes:
Bashar,

Of course your take on things isn't really based in reality.  The postal service as a quasi-independent agency of the government is supposed to operate off of its revenues.  Prior to a few years ago, the postal service had never laid off any employees.  The requirement for the postal service fully fund its pensions is neither draconian, nor an act of trying to kill the postal service, it is one endangered example of common sense coming out of DC.

Granted, if the entire federal government had to adhere to the same rules, the size and scope of govt. would be much smaller..  I do not harbor ill feelings towards govt workers, many/most perform a vital service with little to no individual recognition... but if an "independent agency" is truly independent, would they need a govt. bailout?
2013-07-23 11:57:31 PM
1 votes:

Poison Appleseeds: Satanic_Hamster: Mother of God.  Are they TRYING to lose the elderly vote?

They're trying to do what they've been trying to do for years. Kill the Postal Service.


Oh, I know that.  But do you realize how much this proposal would piss off old people?

Any area I've ever lived that's even remotely talked about consolidating postal offices had armed uprisings of old people.
2013-07-23 11:51:28 PM
1 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: Mother of God.  Are they TRYING to lose the elderly vote?


They're trying to do what they've been trying to do for years. Kill the Postal Service.
2013-07-23 11:49:39 PM
1 votes:
Mother of God.  Are they TRYING to lose the elderly vote?
2013-07-23 11:47:35 PM
1 votes:
Can I still smash it with a baseball bat while hanging out of a car window?
2013-07-23 11:04:49 PM
1 votes:
The Congress does have the power to establish post offices and post roads. That's Article 1, Section 8, Clause 7 of the Constitution.

The Post Office was established to facilitate interstate communication. And the current cluterf*ck that goes along with allocation of funds to this end has essentially given rise to alternative shipping concerns, like UPS and others. And essentially, this lovely idea to "save" money, is essentially a way to give those alternative carriers a shot in the arm. It is a way of dismantling services to create more work for those who are donating to their campaigns. Nothing more. Nothing less. And give rise to the idea that the gub'ment can't do the job, when you have a Congress that is working its damnedest to make certain that is the case.

It's not a matter of walking down the street. It's not a matter of saving money. It's a matter of essentially dismantling services so that private services will be able to pick up contracts and business. It is self fulfilling prophesy to get rid of services that others can do for private profit, and slide some of those dollars into the hands of those who are going to deliver on this promise. It is about propping up industries by cutting out their main competition--and that competition is a service guaranteed by the Constitution, which is inconvenient, and Congress figures that it can starve that particular portion of the beast, because it gets in the way of a buddy's idea to offer an alternative, and paying a fair amount of cash to make that alternative seem even better.
2013-07-23 10:42:28 PM
1 votes:
we've gone to the moon, sent probes to the very edge of the solar system, and brought down the soviet union.

But now mail delivery is too hard to do.
2013-07-23 10:35:06 PM
1 votes:
Hey, Issa, halting pointless Comgressiomal fishing expeditions on topics that aren't turning out to be scandals would save a lot of taxpayers' money too.
2013-07-23 10:30:58 PM
1 votes:

Elandriel: I've been thinking we should stop considering the USPS as a business that is intended to turn a tidy profit.  The situation isn't the same as it used to be earlier in its day.  There are way more people, way more mail, and more carriers etc are needed.  Adding that volume to an enterprise like UPS or FedEx or whatever would likely result in the same outcome because of the scope and coverage of the USPS.  It would be better if we would treat it as an expense; it is a good investment and it brings real value to society. Nobody's biatching about firemen not turning a profit, or the military or whatever.


You are correct. Here, this is for you

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2013-07-23 10:26:56 PM
1 votes:
I've been thinking we should stop considering the USPS as a business that is intended to turn a tidy profit.  The situation isn't the same as it used to be earlier in its day.  There are way more people, way more mail, and more carriers etc are needed.  Adding that volume to an enterprise like UPS or FedEx or whatever would likely result in the same outcome because of the scope and coverage of the USPS.  It would be better if we would treat it as an expense; it is a good investment and it brings real value to society.  Nobody's biatching about firemen not turning a profit, or the military or whatever.
2013-07-23 10:07:28 PM
1 votes:

Piizzadude: Serious question

Can you quit mail service? Just change your mailing address to nothing


You could fake your own death.

Or you could put your mail delivery on hold, set it to forward to a fictitious address and drop off the face of the planet.
2013-07-23 09:48:54 PM
1 votes:

Pray 4 Mojo: Aarontology: Anything that makes it harder for hillbillies in the sticks to communicate with the outside world is good in my book.

What about non-hillbilles in the sticks?

And... who that fark gets mail they need to see anymore? The internet man... it's changin' the world.


The non-hillbillies get AOL.

I AM A VENGEFUL AND CONFUSING GOD.
2013-07-23 09:07:16 PM
1 votes:
I had these growing up outside of Denver.  What's the big deal?
2013-07-23 08:41:16 PM
1 votes:
The best part of them is that if you pry the back of one open, you get to steal 10 or 12 peoples mail all at the same time!

/happens frequently in rural areas
//like the one I live in
2013-07-23 08:12:06 PM
1 votes:
Bluster cox!
2013-07-23 07:56:27 PM
1 votes:
...subby's never heard of these? These things are everywhere in new housing subdivisions and townhouse complexes.
 
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