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(Fox 23 Tulsa)   House Republicans decide that people don't need mail delivered to their homes anymore, propose new neighborhood "cluster boxes." If only there was a word to insert between "cluster" and "boxes" that would describe the probable results   (fox23.com) divider line 503
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2013-07-24 01:05:00 AM  
90% of paper mail is completely useless to begin with.
What is this, the 80's?
 
2013-07-24 01:05:11 AM  

SnakeLee: AdolfOliverPanties: Meanwhile you have complete ignorant farksticks saying Obama is deliberately trying to tear the country apart (they never do give a reason why he may want to do that though; they just say that he is.)

Start going to the websites that the people who say that stuff go to.  It usually involves the Illuminati and rounding up gun owners into concentration camps.  They just won't say it to you in an argument because they know how crazy it sounds to people who don't already believe in their conspiracy theories.

For instance, what the NSA is doing is bad, but it doesn't mean that a.) we live in a police state,* b.) Obama is engaged in a coup of sorts, c.) the anti-christ has risen, d.) the first step in logging all gun owners is complete, e.) someone is watching your every move, etc. etc. etc.  I feel like everyone actually wants to live in some fantasy dystopia just so they could biatch more.  Meanwhile, midterm election voter turnout is like 30%.

/*A real police state is so much worse than what we live in today.  This is tasteless hyperbole.  I will accept that if the powers that the government is getting were further expanded and someone unscrupulous person got the presidency we could head that way, but as it stands now we do not live in one.  It's not even an argument.  Stop it with the hyperbole and have a rational conversation.


We certainly don't live in a police state, but we do live in a state where the police have an awful lot of leeway in what they can do, and only rarely face serious punishments for it, which is worrisome on its own.

That doesn't make any of the stuff conspiracists rant about any less bonkers, of course.
 
2013-07-24 01:05:22 AM  

albatros183: NeedlesslyCanadian: ...subby's never heard of these? These things are everywhere in new housing subdivisions and townhouse complexes.

Rush warned us years ago.


Rush also wanted all druggies to go to prison and do hard time... until he got caught being one of those druggies. I wouldn't put too much stock into what Rush says or does.

Mailboxes are all curbside and on the same side of the street where I live. Sticking them all at the end of the block wouldn't be such a big deal. Initial cost would probably exceed the savings for the first few years, but it would save time and gas in the long run.

/all that Red Plumb and Savings Safari crap is so wasteful
 
2013-07-24 01:05:56 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Right wing troll accounts:
Listen.  I know you guys are trolls and love "pissing off the libs" and arguing against anything "a lib" is in favor of.

But please, look at this from a matter of helping the conservative / Republican party.  Do you realize how batshiat crazy pissed off this type of proposal will make old people?  Old people, who are a fairly core and reliable Republican voting block?

Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, and moderates:
Just let the Republicans run with this.  It won't make it past the Senate and it will give all the Democrats next election the ability to run on a platform of "Republicans want to stop the elderly from getting mail delivery at home and we're the only thing protecting it."


Old people like Medicare more than the post office.

Liberals:  keep pretending money grows on trees.  As Detroit found out, you can't borrow your way to success.
 
2013-07-24 01:06:07 AM  

USP .45: BuckTurgidson: Same here, since the Post Office is infinitely more Constitutional than the Air Force or a standing army in peacetime or God.or marriage.

They didn't have high capacity motorized vehicles when the Constitution was written, mail should only be delivered by horse.


Of course, of course.
 
2013-07-24 01:06:40 AM  

Fecal Conservative: Barfmaker: 2xhelix: Barfmaker: Do you really think that senior citizens stay holed up all winter never leaving their houses?

Many sadly do or only go out when they have someone to drive them somewhere.  Just ask anyone who volunteers with Meals On Wheels.

I suspect you're being purposely obtuse in missing my point however to play your game, if someone is game enough to bring a meal to these shut-ins, don't you think they'd pop across the street to check the mail once in a while?

Or wouldn't their son/daughter who visits once a week/two weeks do it?

Because if nobody will do that for them and they can't do it themselves, then would they even be living in their homes alone in the first place? Who clears their walkway?

We're speaking of senior citizens here, not cripples or invalids (regardless of age). My friends who are both 73 are leaving for another trip to Europe in another week. They golf regularly when they're not travelling. They are, in my experience, normal for their age.

Maybe elderly Canadians are much different from the elderly in your country but, while we have invalids here of every age, being a senior citizen doesn't seem to be a debilitating condition on its own.

We also have Meals On Wheels and in many cases centralized mailboxes and our society hasn't crumbled. Noticeably.

It sounds like you have very limited experience with the elderly. Some labour under dementia and cannot leave their home well even though they are able bodied. One poor man I saw helped into assisted living ate only beans in his house for 6 months. He was all alone after his wife of 72 years died. He outlived all of his family and friends.


Don't you realize that Canadians are the all wise and powerful beings that are truly masters of the universe?   There is no dementia, parkinsons, or disease that befall the Canadian elderly.  There diet of poutine and daily curling matches allow them to not go gently into that good night.

CSB time.  Last sunday I was in Bogota, Colombia seating a brew pub with an English man, three swiss guys, 1 Colombian girl, and my Colombian ass.

This girl comes over to our table and starts speaking to the english fellow in very poor spanish and he answers her back in good spanish, albeit with his english accent.  She turns to her friends and says in English"I am having a hard time understanding Colombians and their horrible spanish."  My English friend who looks like your typical englishman says "you silly twat, I am farking english".  And then I let her know that Colombian spanish is one of the  purest forms in Latin America. She was from Quebec, but my experience with Canadians in the US, is much better than the ones who ones you meet outside the country.
 
2013-07-24 01:06:46 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: tripleseven: You are aware that the USPS is funded by postage fees, and not tax, right?

Yes, 100% - they are on the verge of asking for a huge tax-payer funded bailout - a cash giveaway. And also, if you want to argue that Congress should give them more leeway in running their 'business' I'm all for it. Because at the end of the day it won't mater - not one dime of tax-payer money - government bureaucrats will destroy it no matter what..


The post office hasn't run a single year without taxpayer money in three decades, and never will again. If they were self supporting it wouldn't come down to this.
 
2013-07-24 01:11:32 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: I own a house, and one of the benefits of that is having mail delivered to my mailbox instead of having to deal with the cluster boxes that I was forced to accept as an apartment dweller.


So you want special treatment because you own a house, and you don't care how much the stamps cost, but then you attack Republicans for catering to the rich. Seems legit.
 
2013-07-24 01:11:34 AM  

Lsherm: Satanic_Hamster: Right wing troll accounts:
Listen.  I know you guys are trolls and love "pissing off the libs" and arguing against anything "a lib" is in favor of.

But please, look at this from a matter of helping the conservative / Republican party.  Do you realize how batshiat crazy pissed off this type of proposal will make old people?  Old people, who are a fairly core and reliable Republican voting block?

Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, and moderates:
Just let the Republicans run with this.  It won't make it past the Senate and it will give all the Democrats next election the ability to run on a platform of "Republicans want to stop the elderly from getting mail delivery at home and we're the only thing protecting it."

Old people like Medicare more than the post office.

Liberals:  keep pretending money grows on trees.  As Detroit found out, you can't borrow your way to success.


The big difference being, the US can never run out of money.  Treasury bonds are still considered one of the absolute safest investments possible, the USD is still the global reserve currency, and if it comes to it, we just print more.

If anything the government should be spending more.  Krugman (who has been proved right time after time) even says the way to prosperity is through government spending.  The more we spend, the faster the economy grows, the greater the GDP becomes, and the less a percentage of the GDP the debt becomes.  Don't be afraid of spending - spending is what drives the world.
 
2013-07-24 01:11:34 AM  
Subby is right. I think we can all agree that there is no need to worry about the status of the post office. They are as strong financially than ever and there is no risk that they will go bankrupt or bailed out at the expense of the taxpayers.

Oh wait - even he lib rag huffington puffingto post would disagree with me:
 
2013-07-24 01:11:38 AM  
Given that this is very common already (especially in apartments and rural areas) I don't really see any problem with making it the default arrangement to lower costs a bit in the areas where it's viable but not already in place, like suburban neighborhoods.
 
2013-07-24 01:11:42 AM  

Xcott: At what point did it become infected with full-blown "I quit" defeatism?


Moving from buggy whips to something else is defeatism?
 
2013-07-24 01:11:47 AM  

TheOmni: Before considering any Republican proposal about the USPS, keep in mind that they want them to fail and actively take steps to encourage that failure.

If I had to walk down the street for my mail I would no longer get mail. Currently, for me, the postal service is primarily an advertising service that offers a few non-advertising services as well. The overwhelming majority of what I receive in the mail is simply ads. So there's just no reason for me to do anything more out of the way then the end of my driveway.


So what you're saying is that we could save a fortune not delivering to people like you, and that we'd be stupid to keep doing it. Glad you're on board.
 
2013-07-24 01:13:23 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: If trayvon martin had his skittles and watermellon juice mailed to him, he would be alive today.


Not if he were checking the mail that night.
 
2013-07-24 01:13:38 AM  

theflatline: I order everything online except food or something I need right away, and I pay for the post office, fed ex, or ups to bring it.   The post office could make profit, just like the other two do, but they government will not let it, they want to piece it off to the private sector.


Not quite. The difference between the USPS and FedEx and UPS is that the USPS MUST deliver to every address anywhere in the United States and its Territories. You want to send a letter to some yahoo living out in east bumfark Montana, just past where the dirt road ends? The post office HAS to deliver there. UPS and FedEx will laugh in your face.

Since the USPS has to maintain capability (and that costs money) in places that rarely get business, they could NEVER be competitive, on the whole.
 
2013-07-24 01:15:12 AM  
What you don't want is one of these clusterf&uck boxes in front of your own house.

/trust me on this one
 
2013-07-24 01:15:32 AM  

USP .45: TuteTibiImperes: I own a house, and one of the benefits of that is having mail delivered to my mailbox instead of having to deal with the cluster boxes that I was forced to accept as an apartment dweller.

So you want special treatment because you own a house, and you don't care how much the stamps cost, but then you attack Republicans for catering to the rich. Seems legit.


One of the definitions of middle class should be being able to own a house, that doesn't make you rich.  Also, willing to spend $1, $2, or $3 on a stamp for convenience doesn't make one rich either - we're not talking about a lot of money, and most people don't physically mail things very often anyway.  Even at $3 a stamp my total postage bill would cost less than filling my car with gas one time.
 
2013-07-24 01:16:41 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: USP .45: TuteTibiImperes: I own a house, and one of the benefits of that is having mail delivered to my mailbox instead of having to deal with the cluster boxes that I was forced to accept as an apartment dweller.

So you want special treatment because you own a house, and you don't care how much the stamps cost, but then you attack Republicans for catering to the rich. Seems legit.

One of the definitions of middle class should be being able to own a house, that doesn't make you rich.  Also, willing to spend $1, $2, or $3 on a stamp for convenience doesn't make one rich either - we're not talking about a lot of money, and most people don't physically mail things very often anyway.  Even at $3 a stamp my total postage bill would cost less than filling my car with gas one time.


Meant to say total yearly postage expenses.
 
2013-07-24 01:20:26 AM  
I would have no problem with this as long as they completely abolish junk mail along with it. That way I could simply go to my box once a month and get the three pieces of actual mail I receive and be done with it.
 
2013-07-24 01:20:50 AM  
so who wants to add to the $90 bil we've already wasted on "aid" to Afghanistan?
we might be able to afford it if we just cut more services (and jobs).
 
2013-07-24 01:21:36 AM  

ReapTheChaos: I would have no problem with this as long as they completely abolish junk mail along with it. That way I could simply go to my box once a month and get the three pieces of actual mail I receive and be done with it.


That is where most of their money comes from.
And yes, they already tried making cheaper, more plentiful junk mail for extra revenue.
 
2013-07-24 01:24:17 AM  

Sgygus: What you don't want is one of these clusterf&uck boxes in front of your own house.

/trust me on this one


Yup.  Nothing like lazy asshats leaving their collective junk mail on or around the boxes.
 
2013-07-24 01:24:25 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Lsherm: Satanic_Hamster: Right wing troll accounts:
Listen.  I know you guys are trolls and love "pissing off the libs" and arguing against anything "a lib" is in favor of.

But please, look at this from a matter of helping the conservative / Republican party.  Do you realize how batshiat crazy pissed off this type of proposal will make old people?  Old people, who are a fairly core and reliable Republican voting block?

Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, and moderates:
Just let the Republicans run with this.  It won't make it past the Senate and it will give all the Democrats next election the ability to run on a platform of "Republicans want to stop the elderly from getting mail delivery at home and we're the only thing protecting it."

Old people like Medicare more than the post office.

Liberals:  keep pretending money grows on trees.  As Detroit found out, you can't borrow your way to success.

The big difference being, the US can never run out of money.  Treasury bonds are still considered one of the absolute safest investments possible, the USD is still the global reserve currency, and if it comes to it, we just print more.

If anything the government should be spending more.  Krugman (who has been proved right time after time) even says the way to prosperity is through government spending.  The more we spend, the faster the economy grows, the greater the GDP becomes, and the less a percentage of the GDP the debt becomes.  Don't be afraid of spending - spending is what drives the world.


Yeah, all that worked out for Greece.

Krugman wasn't right about Greece.  Or Detroit.
 
2013-07-24 01:25:44 AM  

vygramul: theflatline: I order everything online except food or something I need right away, and I pay for the post office, fed ex, or ups to bring it.   The post office could make profit, just like the other two do, but they government will not let it, they want to piece it off to the private sector.

Not quite. The difference between the USPS and FedEx and UPS is that the USPS MUST deliver to every address anywhere in the United States and its Territories. You want to send a letter to some yahoo living out in east bumfark Montana, just past where the dirt road ends? The post office HAS to deliver there. UPS and FedEx will laugh in your face.

Since the USPS has to maintain capability (and that costs money) in places that rarely get business, they could NEVER be competitive, on the whole.


No, there are millions of homes too remote to have mail delivery. They all have to drive to the post office, even if it is 25 miles away, just like they have to drive to the UPS store to pick up packages outside of their delivery range.
 
2013-07-24 01:25:49 AM  

Sgygus: What you don't want is one of these clusterf&uck boxes in front of your own house.

/trust me on this one


When I lived in a townhouse development, they were located on street corners not in front of anyone's door. That's a good design.
 
2013-07-24 01:26:09 AM  
TuteTibiImperes:  I own a house, and one of the benefits of that is having mail delivered to my mailbox instead of having to deal with the cluster boxes that I was forced to accept as an apartment dweller.

ahahahahahaha
 
2013-07-24 01:28:23 AM  
vygramul:You want to send a letter to some yahoo living out in east bumfark Montana, just past where the dirt road ends? The post office HAS to deliver there. UPS and FedEx will laugh in your face.

No one in my entire town of Delaware Water Gap, Pa. has ever has mail delivered to their home.
 
2013-07-24 01:29:59 AM  
optikeye

Geeze...The GOP is really trying to drive America into third world country territory. No space program, no education, no roads, no research
Neil D tyson wants a word with you
Not that the facts will stop your derp.
 
2013-07-24 01:30:06 AM  
I live in the sticks, 18 miles from the nearest convenience store.  People drive a mile or two to the cluster boxes, which are at the intersection of two "major" roads.  Everyone's used to stopping to pick up or drop off mail.

Farking city pussies.
 
2013-07-24 01:31:12 AM  

Dwindle: vygramul: theflatline: I order everything online except food or something I need right away, and I pay for the post office, fed ex, or ups to bring it.   The post office could make profit, just like the other two do, but they government will not let it, they want to piece it off to the private sector.

Not quite. The difference between the USPS and FedEx and UPS is that the USPS MUST deliver to every address anywhere in the United States and its Territories. You want to send a letter to some yahoo living out in east bumfark Montana, just past where the dirt road ends? The post office HAS to deliver there. UPS and FedEx will laugh in your face.

Since the USPS has to maintain capability (and that costs money) in places that rarely get business, they could NEVER be competitive, on the whole.

No, there are millions of homes too remote to have mail delivery. They all have to drive to the post office, even if it is 25 miles away, just like they have to drive to the UPS store to pick up packages outside of their delivery range.


I may have exaggerated, but the truth is that there are Post Offices in places UPS wouldn't ever dream of delivering. There are postal routes that are over 180 miles a day that only cover some 250 or so mailboxes.
 
2013-07-24 01:33:19 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Xcott: At what point did it become infected with full-blown "I quit" defeatism?

Moving from buggy whips to something else is defeatism?


This is a reduction is service and convenience, it's moving from cars to buggy whips.  It is not an improvement.
 
2013-07-24 01:35:35 AM  
look at the DoD budget for 2014...it doesnt matter what any other branch of goverment does until we audit and control the defense spending
 
2013-07-24 01:35:44 AM  
Farking so-called Republicans, we need to throw their asses out of Congress in the mid-term elections and stop this attack on the Postal Service, totally sponsored by the private package companies. It's a farking disgrace.
 
2013-07-24 01:37:10 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: I live in the sticks, 18 miles from the nearest convenience store.  People drive a mile or two to the cluster boxes, which are at the intersection of two "major" roads.  Everyone's used to stopping to pick up or drop off mail.

Farking city pussies.


lol
 
2013-07-24 01:38:10 AM  

tbhouston: look at the DoD budget for 2014...it doesnt matter what any other branch of goverment does until we audit and control the defense spending


If you're expecting an audit will save a significant amount of money, you're going to be disappointed. In fact, a huge amount of the admin overhead is all the controls put in place because of all the hand-wringing over it. It's true, though, that we cannot afford our defense posture.
 
2013-07-24 01:38:54 AM  

ReapTheChaos: I would have no problem with this as long as they completely abolish junk mail along with it. That way I could simply go to my box once a month and get the three pieces of actual mail I receive and be done with it.


Dear god this.

I rely heavily on the actual mail at work--legal notice is an area that depends a great deal on the US mail--but holy crap, the amount of garbage that goes along with the necessary stuff is insane. Do we really need to get a sheaf of glossy 4-color ads at a law office or realtor's office every week? It goes straight into the trash. There should be a way to clean that dreck out of the mail and still keep things moving along.
 
2013-07-24 01:40:00 AM  
i have to get my mail from such boxes.
and if i get a large package, i have to get that from another bigger box near my regular box.
omg

but then i live in a marina, and we don't like common folk coming to the door and rousing the pups.
 
2013-07-24 01:41:39 AM  

Lsherm: TuteTibiImperes: Lsherm: Satanic_Hamster: Right wing troll accounts:
Listen.  I know you guys are trolls and love "pissing off the libs" and arguing against anything "a lib" is in favor of.

But please, look at this from a matter of helping the conservative / Republican party.  Do you realize how batshiat crazy pissed off this type of proposal will make old people?  Old people, who are a fairly core and reliable Republican voting block?

Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, and moderates:
Just let the Republicans run with this.  It won't make it past the Senate and it will give all the Democrats next election the ability to run on a platform of "Republicans want to stop the elderly from getting mail delivery at home and we're the only thing protecting it."

Old people like Medicare more than the post office.

Liberals:  keep pretending money grows on trees.  As Detroit found out, you can't borrow your way to success.

The big difference being, the US can never run out of money.  Treasury bonds are still considered one of the absolute safest investments possible, the USD is still the global reserve currency, and if it comes to it, we just print more.

If anything the government should be spending more.  Krugman (who has been proved right time after time) even says the way to prosperity is through government spending.  The more we spend, the faster the economy grows, the greater the GDP becomes, and the less a percentage of the GDP the debt becomes.  Don't be afraid of spending - spending is what drives the world.

Yeah, all that worked out for Greece.

Krugman wasn't right about Greece.  Or Detroit.


Greece instituted austerity measures, that hardly seems like Krugman's wisdom.  Plus, neither Detroit nor Greece has the resources, borrowing power, or ability to create currency like the US.
 
2013-07-24 01:41:59 AM  

Any Pie Left: Farking so-called Republicans, we need to throw their asses out of Congress in the mid-term elections and stop this attack on the Postal Service, totally sponsored by the private package companies. It's a farking disgrace.


I know right! I totally hate it when UPS and Fedex let me know what is going to arrive before it even arrives. They're using this crazy QR and barcode illuminati shiat. I totally want to walk to my mailbox in 80% humidity to find nothing but a Domino's advertisement. It's in the Constitution!
 
2013-07-24 01:43:34 AM  

Gyrfalcon: ReapTheChaos: I would have no problem with this as long as they completely abolish junk mail along with it. That way I could simply go to my box once a month and get the three pieces of actual mail I receive and be done with it.

Dear god this.

I rely heavily on the actual mail at work--legal notice is an area that depends a great deal on the US mail--but holy crap, the amount of garbage that goes along with the necessary stuff is insane. Do we really need to get a sheaf of glossy 4-color ads at a law office or realtor's office every week? It goes straight into the trash. There should be a way to clean that dreck out of the mail and still keep things moving along.


jebus!
i've been getting this big glossy fios advert in the mail for years.
i got it before they could even offer it where i live.
i got so pissed off, i wouldn't let them run it into my place when they came (finally).
now i moved, and i was so peeved at cable, i actually got fios,

and i still get those f*cking ads.
 
2013-07-24 01:43:51 AM  

Lsherm: Liberals:  keep pretending money grows on trees.


graphics8.nytimes.com

The word you are looking for is "conservatives". Conservatives.
 
2013-07-24 01:44:00 AM  

USP .45: Any Pie Left: Farking so-called Republicans, we need to throw their asses out of Congress in the mid-term elections and stop this attack on the Postal Service, totally sponsored by the private package companies. It's a farking disgrace.

I know right! I totally hate it when UPS and Fedex let me know what is going to arrive before it even arrives. They're using this crazy QR and barcode illuminati shiat. I totally want to walk to my mailbox in 80% humidity to find nothing but a Domino's advertisement. It's in the Constitution!


So long as UPS sends people postcards saying they can't find their addresses, the USPS needs to remain in business.
 
2013-07-24 01:45:05 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: ability to create currency like the US


That's not really something anyone suggests we should do. And Greece has the exact same ability we do.
 
2013-07-24 01:48:32 AM  
Will the GOP take turns trying to name these USPS cluster boxes like they did post offices?
 
2013-07-24 01:48:49 AM  

USP .45: Any Pie Left: Farking so-called Republicans, we need to throw their asses out of Congress in the mid-term elections and stop this attack on the Postal Service, totally sponsored by the private package companies. It's a farking disgrace.

I know right! I totally hate it when UPS and Fedex let me know what is going to arrive before it even arrives. They're using this crazy QR and barcode illuminati shiat. I totally want to walk to my mailbox in 80% humidity to find nothing but a Domino's advertisement. It's in the Constitution!


The last 5 packages I have had delivered to my house via UPS Ground have used the USPS as the last-mile carrier. In each case, the tracking went from having the packing label created to being handed off to the local USPS office, with no tracking in between or updates on delivery. At least when UPS drags their asses on the hand-off on a Friday, USPS will deliver it Saturday. If it was UPS, unless I paid the premium for Saturday delivery, I wouldn't see my package until Monday.
 
2013-07-24 01:49:29 AM  

OhioUGrad: Will the GOP take turns trying to name these USPS cluster boxes like they did post offices?


They will all be named after Ronald Reagan.
 
2013-07-24 01:50:41 AM  

vygramul: OhioUGrad: Will the GOP take turns trying to name these USPS cluster boxes like they did post offices?

They will all be named after Ronald Reagan.


Yeah, I get my mail delivered to F**knut Memorial Cluster Box #65949
 
2013-07-24 01:51:02 AM  

Dwindle: ReapTheChaos: I would have no problem with this as long as they completely abolish junk mail along with it. That way I could simply go to my box once a month and get the three pieces of actual mail I receive and be done with it.

That is where most of their money comes from.
And yes, they already tried making cheaper, more plentiful junk mail for extra revenue.


 You do realize that the U.S. Postal Service is  NOT a U.S. government run entity?
It is an Independent organization that is like a regulated monopoly/essential service that
has government oversight. THE USPS does NOT use taxpayer money. It is only funded by
the income it takes in from the sale of stamps and services.

 These people who want to abolish the USPS are MORONS who don't even know how it functions.
 
2013-07-24 01:51:46 AM  
We have one of these for our condo.  Works fine and saves the mailperson some time.  She has to carry packages to us if they are too large for the package lockbox, but that's not very common.  Most things that large come by fedex or ups.
 
2013-07-24 01:52:46 AM  

vygramul: So long as UPS sends people postcards saying they can't find their addresses, the USPS needs to remain in business.


And the USPS should be able to automate and upload the return address of anything sent so you can see what is en route in the processing center. Letters with no return address are either noted as such or photographically scanned. Commercial mail being routinely sent can be unsubscribed from.

Nah fark it, don't innovate in the slightest.
 
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