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(Fox 23 Tulsa)   House Republicans decide that people don't need mail delivered to their homes anymore, propose new neighborhood "cluster boxes." If only there was a word to insert between "cluster" and "boxes" that would describe the probable results   (fox23.com) divider line 503
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2013-07-23 07:56:27 PM  
...subby's never heard of these? These things are everywhere in new housing subdivisions and townhouse complexes.
 
2013-07-23 07:57:33 PM  
Headaches?  I know people who get cluster headaches.  Is that what subby meant?
 
2013-07-23 07:59:11 PM  
God forbid you'd have to walk down the street for your mail.

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2013-07-23 08:03:13 PM  
Subby sounds stupid and lazy.
 
2013-07-23 08:11:33 PM  

Barfmaker: God forbid you'd have to walk down the street for your mail.

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Fark those invalids anyway for making the bad choice to be disabled.
 
2013-07-23 08:12:06 PM  
Bluster cox!
 
2013-07-23 08:13:15 PM  

vossiewulf: Barfmaker: God forbid you'd have to walk down the street for your mail.

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Fark those invalids anyway for making the bad choice to be disabled.


and fark anybody that believes things should ever remain as they are or were
 
2013-07-23 08:16:29 PM  
Before considering any Republican proposal about the USPS, keep in mind that they want them to fail and actively take steps to encourage that failure.

If I had to walk down the street for my mail I would no longer get mail. Currently, for me, the postal service is primarily an advertising service that offers a few non-advertising services as well. The overwhelming majority of what I receive in the mail is simply ads. So there's just no reason for me to do anything more out of the way then the end of my driveway.
 
2013-07-23 08:24:24 PM  

vossiewulf: Fark those invalids anyway for making the bad choice to be disabled.


Especially the growing number of senior citizens that are too chicken shiat to walk down icy sidewalks in winter, just because they're afraid of breaking a stupid hip.
 
2013-07-23 08:30:29 PM  
Somehow, I don't think this is going to work in all places in the US.


www.publicdomainpictures.net
 
2013-07-23 08:35:28 PM  

Shadowknight: Somehow, I don't think this is going to work in all places in the US.


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What, not everyone lives in NYC or nearby?
 
2013-07-23 08:41:12 PM  
Yeah, a lot of newer neighborhoods already have those. They still deliver packages to your door, though, if it won't fit in the mailbox.
 
2013-07-23 08:41:16 PM  
The best part of them is that if you pry the back of one open, you get to steal 10 or 12 peoples mail all at the same time!

/happens frequently in rural areas
//like the one I live in
 
2013-07-23 08:47:38 PM  
Geeze...The GOP is really trying to drive America into third world country territory. No space program, no education, no roads, no research.
 
2013-07-23 08:52:17 PM  

optikeye: Geeze...The GOP is really trying to drive America into third world country territory. No space program, no education, no roads, no research.


Yep, and the massive concentration of wealth at the very top.  It is shameful they've been able to take their plan as far as they have already.

Meanwhile you have complete ignorant farksticks saying Obama is deliberately trying to tear the country apart (they never do give a reason why he may want to do that though; they just say that he is.)
 
2013-07-23 08:55:17 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The best part of them is that if you pry the back of one open, you get to steal 10 or 12 peoples mail all at the same time!


Oh no, somebody might take my grocery store ads!

It's not like a traditional mailbox is the paragon of security.
 
2013-07-23 08:56:12 PM  

CraicBaby: Yeah, a lot of newer neighborhoods already have those. They still deliver packages to your door, though, if it won't fit in the mailbox.


My condo complex has bigger mailboxes just for packages. The mailman leaves the key for one in your mailbox if you get a package that doesn't fit.

TheOmni: Before considering any Republican proposal about the USPS, keep in mind that they want them to fail and actively take steps to encourage that failure.


This. If they could politically get away with it they'd grant the monopoly on first class mail to UPS, who will immediately raise stamp prices to $10+ and stop delivering anywhere that has fewer than a couple thousand people.
 
2013-07-23 09:07:16 PM  
I had these growing up outside of Denver.  What's the big deal?
 
2013-07-23 09:07:27 PM  
Somehow, the way of the Post Office strikes me as a metaphor for the way of the nation.
 
2013-07-23 09:09:15 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Meanwhile you have complete ignorant farksticks saying Obama is deliberately trying to tear the country apart (they never do give a reason why he may want to do that though; they just say that he is.)


Start going to the websites that the people who say that stuff go to.  It usually involves the Illuminati and rounding up gun owners into concentration camps.  They just won't say it to you in an argument because they know how crazy it sounds to people who don't already believe in their conspiracy theories.

For instance, what the NSA is doing is bad, but it doesn't mean that a.) we live in a police state,* b.) Obama is engaged in a coup of sorts, c.) the anti-christ has risen, d.) the first step in logging all gun owners is complete, e.) someone is watching your every move, etc. etc. etc.  I feel like everyone actually wants to live in some fantasy dystopia just so they could biatch more.  Meanwhile, midterm election voter turnout is like 30%.

/*A real police state is so much worse than what we live in today.  This is tasteless hyperbole.  I will accept that if the powers that the government is getting were further expanded and someone unscrupulous person got the presidency we could head that way, but as it stands now we do not live in one.  It's not even an argument.  Stop it with the hyperbole and have a rational conversation.
 
2013-07-23 09:10:24 PM  
I've been using this service called Outbox and liking it. They take all your mail and scan it, so you just delete the crap and have easy access to important mails from your phone.
 
2013-07-23 09:13:40 PM  

themindiswatching: My condo complex has bigger mailboxes just for packages. The mailman leaves the key for one in your mailbox if you get a package that doesn't fit.


Lucky. At my old apartment complex, if you got a package, they'd just lean it up against the wall under the mailboxes. I never trusted anyone not to steal my shiat, so I always had packages shipped to my in-laws' house.
 
2013-07-23 09:20:28 PM  

SnakeLee: AdolfOliverPanties: Meanwhile you have complete ignorant farksticks saying Obama is deliberately trying to tear the country apart (they never do give a reason why he may want to do that though; they just say that he is.)

Start going to the websites that the people who say that stuff go to.  It usually involves the Illuminati and rounding up gun owners into concentration camps.  They just won't say it to you in an argument because they know how crazy it sounds to people who don't already believe in their conspiracy theories.


But Obama IS trying to tear this country apart by not acting like he's "supposed to". (Of course, they won't say that because they'll sound racist as hell to everyone else.)

CraicBaby: themindiswatching: My condo complex has bigger mailboxes just for packages. The mailman leaves the key for one in your mailbox if you get a package that doesn't fit.

Lucky. At my old apartment complex, if you got a package, they'd just lean it up against the wall under the mailboxes. I never trusted anyone not to steal my shiat, so I always had packages shipped to my in-laws' house.


That sucks. The USPS does seem to have a habit around here for some reason of making me go to the post office to pick up any packages from overseas.
 
2013-07-23 09:24:43 PM  

vossiewulf: Barfmaker: God forbid you'd have to walk down the street for your mail.

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Fark those invalids anyway for making the bad choice to be disabled.


We call them mail or cluster islands around here. Here's the thing: These work well for condo and town home associations. They are put in common area paid for by HOA dues. For areas of single family homes? There is no area to install them that is not on private property.
 
2013-07-23 09:27:34 PM  

CraicBaby: Yeah, a lot of newer neighborhoods already have those. They still deliver packages to your door, though, if it won't fit in the mailbox.


You have a weird name.

/Just thought I'd point that out.
 
2013-07-23 09:29:56 PM  

Shadowknight: Somehow, I don't think this is going to work in all places in the US.


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Yeah... that would totally never happen in rural areas. Never..

thumbs.dreamstime.com
 
2013-07-23 09:38:14 PM  
Anything that makes it harder for hillbillies in the sticks to communicate with the outside world is good in my book.
 
2013-07-23 09:41:56 PM  

Barfmaker: God forbid you'd have to walk down the street for your mail.

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this. everywhere in canada...as far as i know. you lazy fark americans. my old man drives 400 feet to get his mail. talk about lazy.
 
2013-07-23 09:43:12 PM  
fta According to a recent report from the Postal Service's Office of the Inspector General, ending door-to-door delivery would save $4.5 billion a year.

How? I can guess, but I'd like to hear it from a Republican. And please explain how this fits into your Jobs!Jobs!Jobs! agenda.
 
2013-07-23 09:43:30 PM  

Aarontology: Anything that makes it harder for hillbillies in the sticks to communicate with the outside world is good in my book.


What about non-hillbilles in the sticks?

And... who that fark gets mail they need to see anymore? The internet man... it's changin' the world.
 
2013-07-23 09:44:54 PM  

CraicBaby: They still deliver packages to your door, though, if it won't fit in the mailbox.


i.imgur.com

Approves.
 
2013-07-23 09:46:04 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Aarontology: Anything that makes it harder for hillbillies in the sticks to communicate with the outside world is good in my book.

What about non-hillbilles in the sticks?

And... who that fark gets mail they need to see anymore? The internet man... it's changin' the world.


Ain't no broadband in these sticks yet

/not enough population density to make it ridiculously profitable
//dial up is almost worse than no intertubes at all
 
2013-07-23 09:48:54 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Aarontology: Anything that makes it harder for hillbillies in the sticks to communicate with the outside world is good in my book.

What about non-hillbilles in the sticks?

And... who that fark gets mail they need to see anymore? The internet man... it's changin' the world.


The non-hillbillies get AOL.

I AM A VENGEFUL AND CONFUSING GOD.
 
2013-07-23 09:49:14 PM  

TheOmni: Before considering any Republican proposal about the USPS, keep in mind that they want them to fail and actively take steps to encourage that failure.


THIS. They've pissed away any credibility towards improving government efficiency a long long time ago. I wouldn't believe any such proposal was actually honest and credible without a series of heartfelt public apologies for being such assholes against Federal workers for so long. At least show me the both the Greens and Libertarians both endorsing it and I'll consider it.
 
2013-07-23 09:53:39 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Pray 4 Mojo: Aarontology: Anything that makes it harder for hillbillies in the sticks to communicate with the outside world is good in my book.

What about non-hillbilles in the sticks?

And... who that fark gets mail they need to see anymore? The internet man... it's changin' the world.

Ain't no broadband in these sticks yet

/not enough population density to make it ridiculously profitable
//dial up is almost worse than no intertubes at all


Really? You're like 30 minutes from metro Sacramento! That's rather surprising.

When I lived in Bumfark, Idaho... we had dish internet. Not satellite... a dish that was pointed at the big antenna thing on seed elevator about 10 miles away. That was kinda interesting.

/That's right... I know where you live. Muahahahaha!!!
 
2013-07-23 09:56:15 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: ...subby's never heard of these? These things are everywhere in new housing subdivisions and townhouse complexes.


It's already a rule for new developments.  USPS has been dictating their route will include only cluster mailboxes for "new" routes since 2006 since they are allowed to define them as they see fit.  This change is for existing routes.
 
2013-07-23 09:57:20 PM  
This will make it more difficult for old and obese people on hoverrounds. Therefore it will not pass, even though it would help kill the USPS just that much more.
 
2013-07-23 09:58:09 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Pray 4 Mojo: Aarontology: Anything that makes it harder for hillbillies in the sticks to communicate with the outside world is good in my book.

What about non-hillbilles in the sticks?

And... who that fark gets mail they need to see anymore? The internet man... it's changin' the world.

Ain't no broadband in these sticks yet

/not enough population density to make it ridiculously profitable
//dial up is almost worse than no intertubes at all


Check wireless broadband.  Verizon has been a godsend to rural VA.  Otherwise you have to put up with the satellite bullshiat, which isn't as bad as dial up, but is pretty farking close.
 
2013-07-23 09:58:38 PM  
I live on the corner.
Does this mean I'm going to have 20 mailboxes on my front lawn?
 
2013-07-23 10:00:41 PM  

Aarontology: I AM A VENGEFUL AND CONFUSING GOD.


Jesus farking christ... elect a man king and he get's all "I am GOD!" in a matter of hours.

Also... You should try the country life before you get all judgy. It's pretty awesome. This used to be my backyard:
farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-07-23 10:01:03 PM  

SnakeLee: AdolfOliverPanties: Meanwhile you have complete ignorant farksticks saying Obama is deliberately trying to tear the country apart (they never do give a reason why he may want to do that though; they just say that he is.)

Start going to the websites that the people who say that stuff go to.  It usually involves the Illuminati and rounding up gun owners into concentration camps.  They just won't say it to you in an argument because they know how crazy it sounds to people who don't already believe in their conspiracy theories.

For instance, what the NSA is doing is bad, but it doesn't mean that a.) we live in a police state,* b.) Obama is engaged in a coup of sorts, c.) the anti-christ has risen, d.) the first step in logging all gun owners is complete, e.) someone is watching your every move, etc. etc. etc.  I feel like everyone actually wants to live in some fantasy dystopia just so they could biatch more.  Meanwhile, midterm election voter turnout is like 30%.

/*A real police state is so much worse than what we live in today.  This is tasteless hyperbole.  I will accept that if the powers that the government is getting were further expanded and someone unscrupulous person got the presidency we could head that way, but as it stands now we do not live in one.  It's not even an argument.  Stop it with the hyperbole and have a rational conversation.


The tipping point at which it becomes a police state is where the average citizen is afraid of the police.
 
2013-07-23 10:02:37 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Pray 4 Mojo: Aarontology: Anything that makes it harder for hillbillies in the sticks to communicate with the outside world is good in my book.

What about non-hillbilles in the sticks?

And... who that fark gets mail they need to see anymore? The internet man... it's changin' the world.

Ain't no broadband in these sticks yet

/not enough population density to make it ridiculously profitable
//dial up is almost worse than no intertubes at all

Really? You're like 30 minutes from metro Sacramento! That's rather surprising.

When I lived in Bumfark, Idaho... we had dish internet. Not satellite... a dish that was pointed at the big antenna thing on seed elevator about 10 miles away. That was kinda interesting.

/That's right... I know where you live. Muahahahaha!!!


It's more like an hour to Downtown, but yeah... no broadband up here behind the lake yet. We can get satellite (real outer space kind), assuming you have a sight line: I got too many trees. It's also expensive as hell.

/on the bright side, I was assured when I moved here that DSL was "Just months away!"
//that was by PacBell
 
2013-07-23 10:03:30 PM  

Notabunny: How?


My initial thought is that it could save a sh*tload in fuel cost.

But I'm not a Republican, so you probably don't care what I think.
 
2013-07-23 10:03:33 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Also... You should try the country life before you get all judgy. It's pretty awesome. This used to be my backyard:


Heh. When I was a little kid, I lived in the mountains of New Mexico. Beats the hell out of the suburbs any day.
 
2013-07-23 10:04:26 PM  
Serious question

Can you quit mail service? Just change your mailing address to nothing
 
2013-07-23 10:07:28 PM  

Piizzadude: Serious question

Can you quit mail service? Just change your mailing address to nothing


You could fake your own death.

Or you could put your mail delivery on hold, set it to forward to a fictitious address and drop off the face of the planet.
 
2013-07-23 10:08:01 PM  

Shostie: Notabunny: How?

My initial thought is that it could save a sh*tload in fuel cost.

But I'm not a Republican, so you probably don't care what I think.


And man-hours...

/And it will create jobs.
//Somebody needs to build and install all of those gang bang boxes.
 
2013-07-23 10:08:34 PM  

Piizzadude: Serious question

Can you quit mail service? Just change your mailing address to nothing


I have a buddy who had no mail box, so no address the post office knew about. I don't think you're required to have mail service

/he wanted to start getting mail at that address, so he had to submit a petition for service, and install and have approved a US POSTAL SERVICE APPROVED MAILBOX
//and it better be to spec, mister, or no mail for you
 
2013-07-23 10:16:29 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: /he wanted to start getting mail at that address, so he had to submit a petition for service, and install and have approved a US POSTAL SERVICE APPROVED MAILBOX
//and it better be to spec, mister, or no mail for you


In all fairness, without a standard mailbox it would be impossible for a mail carrier to tell where to deliver the mail.  I suspect no less than 10 million Americans would create their own mailbox if given the opportunity, and if you don't have standards about what it should look like or how it should be sized, how do you know what a mailbox is?
 
2013-07-23 10:19:09 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Shostie: Notabunny: How?

My initial thought is that it could save a sh*tload in fuel cost.

But I'm not a Republican, so you probably don't care what I think.

And man-hours...

/And it will create jobs.
//Somebody needs to build and install all of those gang bang boxes.


$4.5 Billion in fuel? My guess is $4.5 Billion per year in layoffs.
 
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