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2013-07-23 02:48:08 PM  

gja: That's all it tokk to get a good sense of how tilted a view you have on reality.


You mean the view of someone who actually lives as a black man and has to put up with the sh*t then come here and be told that he's making it all up? I don't always agree with DRO but I could understand why he gets a little upset.

You or I will never truly know what it's like.
 
2013-07-23 02:48:12 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: master_dman: DROxINxTHExWIND: Otto_E_Rodika: DROxINxTHExWIND: Otto_E_Rodika: Problem: Gangs of African-American youths roam the streets attacking people with hammers.
Solution: Ban hammers.

/frickin' genius

So, they should ban blacks? I'm not following your reasoning. I'm sure the African-American residents are just as disturbed about it as you are.

As in all cases, as long as the perpetrators are black, we can ignore the real problem and focus on the fake one.

85% of African-American males abandon their children - of course, this can have no bearing on why young black males might be anti-social, and therefore attack people with hammers.  Solution, ban hammers.

44% of African-Americans are functionally illiterate - ban hammers
54% of African-Americans graduate high school - ban hammers
78% of the murderers in Chicago are African-American (as are most of their victims) - ban hammers

And on and on.  It is all about creating distractions from the black community taking responsibility for the cesspool they've helped create, and with the glorification of thug culture, now celebrate.  Meanwhile, instead of addressing the underlying causes and starting to fix things, instead we will look at "Stand Your Ground" and hammers.

Ahhhh, yes. That's what I was waiting for. I knew it was just under the surface. You're talking about literacy and graduation and your dumb ass didn't even read the article to find out that no one is banning hammers. I guess the traits that make it harder for black people to succeed are not exclusive to one race. Thatnks for showing us that anyone can be lazy.

lol. Really?  No one actually thinks they are going to ban hammers.  The banning hammers part is just a joke..


Otto_E_Rodikawould like a word with you.


The black crime statistics, however, are not.

Meh. I've grown weary of destroying the per capita argument.


Not big on sarcasm, I see.  Next you're going to tell me that Bloomberg tried to ban soft drinks.
 
2013-07-23 02:48:42 PM  
That's not what I meant when I said I was going out to get hammered after work.
 
2013-07-23 02:49:59 PM  

ciberido: Mighty_Joe: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 320x480]

The 12 ounce hammer is my penis.

[content9.flixster.com image 266x215]
Can you hammer a six-inch spike through a board with your hammer?

/A girl's gotta have her standards.


Beat me to it.

/ fortunately, not with a hammer
 
2013-07-23 02:51:50 PM  

gja: DROxINxTHExWIND: gja: DROxINxTHExWIND: gja: DROxINxTHExWIND: I wish the only oppression I ever had to deal with was the tyranny of not being able to say the "N" word without facing public scrutiny. How the fark do you all live in a world so cruel where the media under reports black crime? It must be rough.

[i.chzbgr.com image 500x374]

I'm not the one who is biatching about unfair treatment by the media. Apparently, blacks aren't the only ones who can play the race card.

Really? So your bias is a figment of the many Farkers and Farekettes who have queried you and called you out on your bias?

Interesting.....


Oh, the bandwagon technique. A majority of Farkers also thought that there were WMDs in Iraq. You should poll them just before you make any decisions. Let me know how it works out for you.

Read through the threads you have posted your tripe and race-laced nonsense in. That's all it tokk to get a good sense of how tilted a view you have on reality.



Your opinion is what it is and I don't care to change it, but if you ever get the chance to go through those threads take a peek at the comment that I was responding too. If the comments that I responded too don't twist your knickers as much as mine apparently do, maybe the problem is you. I don't go into threads talking bad about anyone. I respond to the ignorance that I see.
 
2013-07-23 02:51:56 PM  
I don't fully understand the gravity of the situation.

th09.deviantart.net

But I think there might be some fallout from this decision.

fallout3.nexusmods.com
 
2013-07-23 02:55:15 PM  

Otto_E_Rodika: DROxINxTHExWIND: master_dman: DROxINxTHExWIND: Otto_E_Rodika: DROxINxTHExWIND: Otto_E_Rodika: Problem: Gangs of African-American youths roam the streets attacking people with hammers.
Solution: Ban hammers.

/frickin' genius

So, they should ban blacks? I'm not following your reasoning. I'm sure the African-American residents are just as disturbed about it as you are.

As in all cases, as long as the perpetrators are black, we can ignore the real problem and focus on the fake one.

85% of African-American males abandon their children - of course, this can have no bearing on why young black males might be anti-social, and therefore attack people with hammers.  Solution, ban hammers.

44% of African-Americans are functionally illiterate - ban hammers
54% of African-Americans graduate high school - ban hammers
78% of the murderers in Chicago are African-American (as are most of their victims) - ban hammers

And on and on.  It is all about creating distractions from the black community taking responsibility for the cesspool they've helped create, and with the glorification of thug culture, now celebrate.  Meanwhile, instead of addressing the underlying causes and starting to fix things, instead we will look at "Stand Your Ground" and hammers.

Ahhhh, yes. That's what I was waiting for. I knew it was just under the surface. You're talking about literacy and graduation and your dumb ass didn't even read the article to find out that no one is banning hammers. I guess the traits that make it harder for black people to succeed are not exclusive to one race. Thatnks for showing us that anyone can be lazy.

lol. Really?  No one actually thinks they are going to ban hammers.  The banning hammers part is just a joke..


Otto_E_Rodikawould like a word with you.


The black crime statistics, however, are not.

Meh. I've grown weary of destroying the per capita argument.

Not big on sarcasm, I see.  Next you're going to tell me that Bloomberg tried to ban soft drinks.


Hey everybody! Nothing to see here. The guy who just spent four seperate posts talking about how banning hammers is a distraction and that blacks should focus on the real issues was just pulling our leg. Of COURSE he knew it all along. He just needed a platform to spew his racist diatribe that would make it appear to be in context.
 
2013-07-23 02:57:49 PM  

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What? No love for Hammerin' Hank?


Must be one of those 15% of black men who didn't abandon their children. You know, if you buy into  Otto_E_Rodika's stupid bullshiat.
You gotta admit though, he's firmly proven that ghettos are terrible places to be. I just don't get how he thinks that's an indictment on a skin color.

Any proposals for a solution,  Otto?
 
2013-07-23 02:59:10 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: SuperNinjaToad: where's the outrage? imagined if a bunch of white thugs savagely beating up an innocent black couple. It'll be BREAKING NEWS on all channels and rioting all over.


Naw, I've got a better one. Imagine if Lex Luther hit Superman with a shrinking ray and locked him in a kryptonite-laced fish tank with Mighty Mouse. Who do you think would win?



I see where you're coming from however you and I know you're being intellectually dishonest because you KNOW what I said to be true!

Can you honestly in your hearts of hearts believe that IF a group of white men savagely beating some random innocent black couple on the streets it WON'T make the national news?
 
2013-07-23 03:00:05 PM  

Otto_E_Rodika: DROxINxTHExWIND: Otto_E_Rodika: Problem: Gangs of African-American youths roam the streets attacking people with hammers.
Solution: Ban hammers.

/frickin' genius

So, they should ban blacks? I'm not following your reasoning. I'm sure the African-American residents are just as disturbed about it as you are.

As in all cases, as long as the perpetrators are black, we can ignore the real problem and focus on the fake one.

85% of African-American males abandon their children - of course, this can have no bearing on why young black males might be anti-social, and therefore attack people with hammers.  Solution, ban hammers.

44% of African-Americans are functionally illiterate - ban hammers
54% of African-Americans graduate high school - ban hammers
78% of the murderers in Chicago are African-American (as are most of their victims) - ban hammers

And on and on.  It is all about creating distractions from the black community taking responsibility for the cesspool they've helped create, and with the glorification of thug culture, now celebrate.  Meanwhile, instead of addressing the underlying causes and starting to fix things, instead we will look at "Stand Your Ground" and hammers.


Your statistics are bullshiat. The number for literacy is 24 percent at "below basic" reading level, and that number has dropped by 6 percentage points since 1992. The black graduation rate ranges from 49 percent in Minnesota to 81 percent in Texas (doesn't include people who later get GEDs).
 
2013-07-23 03:03:07 PM  

mbillips: Otto_E_Rodika: DROxINxTHExWIND: Otto_E_Rodika: Problem: Gangs of African-American youths roam the streets attacking people with hammers.
Solution: Ban hammers.

/frickin' genius

So, they should ban blacks? I'm not following your reasoning. I'm sure the African-American residents are just as disturbed about it as you are.

As in all cases, as long as the perpetrators are black, we can ignore the real problem and focus on the fake one.

85% of African-American males abandon their children - of course, this can have no bearing on why young black males might be anti-social, and therefore attack people with hammers.  Solution, ban hammers.

44% of African-Americans are functionally illiterate - ban hammers
54% of African-Americans graduate high school - ban hammers
78% of the murderers in Chicago are African-American (as are most of their victims) - ban hammers

And on and on.  It is all about creating distractions from the black community taking responsibility for the cesspool they've helped create, and with the glorification of thug culture, now celebrate.  Meanwhile, instead of addressing the underlying causes and starting to fix things, instead we will look at "Stand Your Ground" and hammers.

Your statistics are bullshiat. The number for literacy is 24 percent at "below basic" reading level, and that number has dropped by 6 percentage points since 1992. The black graduation rate ranges from 49 percent in Minnesota to 81 percent in Texas (doesn't include people who later get GEDs).


But... I was told 17 out of 20 black men knock women up and then abandon them! I learned it from Otto! I... it has to be true!
 
2013-07-23 03:03:14 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Hey everybody! Nothing to see here. The guy who just spent four seperate posts talking about how banning hammers is a distraction and that blacks should focus on the real issues was just pulling our leg. Of COURSE he knew it all along. He just needed a platform to spew his racist diatribe that would make it appear to be in context.


I just want to hear what their solution is. They seem to spout this type of rhetoric freely because their right wing blogs and talk radio super heroes have made it okay for them to push those boundaries but they stop short of coming out with the predictable solution that is bubbling just under the surface. This is because they KNOW it is wrong and if they utter the words they destroy their arguments.
 
2013-07-23 03:04:43 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-23 03:04:48 PM  
img.photobucket.com  outsiderjapan.pbworks.com
 
2013-07-23 03:05:41 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img856.imageshack.us image 320x480]


THIS is why I have you fav'd.
Win.
 
2013-07-23 03:05:46 PM  
I wonder which one could have been Obamas son, or which one could have been him.
 
2013-07-23 03:06:54 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: DROxINxTHExWIND: SuperNinjaToad: where's the outrage? imagined if a bunch of white thugs savagely beating up an innocent black couple. It'll be BREAKING NEWS on all channels and rioting all over.


Naw, I've got a better one. Imagine if Lex Luther hit Superman with a shrinking ray and locked him in a kryptonite-laced fish tank with Mighty Mouse. Who do you think would win?


I see where you're coming from however you and I know you're being intellectually dishonest because you KNOW what I said to be true!

Can you honestly in your hearts of hearts believe that IF a group of white men savagely beating some random innocent black couple on the streets it WON'T make the national news?


Depends on who they are. If they're meth head criminals, and the innocent couple are walking through Peckerwood, West Virginia, because their car broke down and get beat up it probably won't make more than the local news. If it's the Klan, yeah, it'll make the news. Just like this Harlem thing would blow up as a national story if these guys in the white t-shirts turned out to be a black-supremacist organization bent on chasing non-blacks out of Harlem. So far, though, I haven't seen any indication that the victims weren't black.
 
2013-07-23 03:07:51 PM  
I don't know what all the fuss is about.  I love getting hammered
www.damnlol.com
 
2013-07-23 03:07:53 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: DROxINxTHExWIND: SuperNinjaToad: where's the outrage? imagined if a bunch of white thugs savagely beating up an innocent black couple. It'll be BREAKING NEWS on all channels and rioting all over.


Naw, I've got a better one. Imagine if Lex Luther hit Superman with a shrinking ray and locked him in a kryptonite-laced fish tank with Mighty Mouse. Who do you think would win?


I see where you're coming from however you and I know you're being intellectually dishonest because you KNOW what I said to be true!

Can you honestly in your hearts of hearts believe that IF a group of white men savagely beating some random innocent black couple on the streets it WON'T make the national news?


Actually, no. I cannot say that. I agree that if a group of white men savagely beat a random black man it would probably make some national news cycle. The problem is, who are you complaining too? Bob Johnson doesn't own the media. Hell, white people own BET now.  Whose fault is it that, in your eyes, there does not appear to be outrage when the roles are reversed? When Sharpton and Jackson get out to spread the word of some perceived injustice gainst blacks you all biatch about how they're race-baiting trolls.*** But, EVERY one of these threads has a bunch of Farkers calling for the same sort of attention in cases which involve whites. Which is it? Should these things be given attention or not?  Maybe you all need an anglo version of Jesse Jackson to preach about the inequality and bring attention to your plight?
 
2013-07-23 03:11:47 PM  

here to help: DROxINxTHExWIND: Hey everybody! Nothing to see here. The guy who just spent four seperate posts talking about how banning hammers is a distraction and that blacks should focus on the real issues was just pulling our leg. Of COURSE he knew it all along. He just needed a platform to spew his racist diatribe that would make it appear to be in context.

I just want to hear what their solution is. They seem to spout this type of rhetoric freely because their right wing blogs and talk radio super heroes have made it okay for them to push those boundaries but they stop short of coming out with the predictable solution that is bubbling just under the surface. This is because they KNOW it is wrong and if they utter the words they destroy their arguments.


Their solution is for "the blacks" to "help their communities", whatever that means. None of them can get their brother-in-law to stop beating their sisters, but I'm supposed to get every black person a job with a living wage that will allow them to be upwardly mobile or I'm the problem.
 
2013-07-23 03:12:45 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: DROxINxTHExWIND: SuperNinjaToad: where's the outrage? imagined if a bunch of white thugs savagely beating up an innocent black couple. It'll be BREAKING NEWS on all channels and rioting all over.


Naw, I've got a better one. Imagine if Lex Luther hit Superman with a shrinking ray and locked him in a kryptonite-laced fish tank with Mighty Mouse. Who do you think would win?


I see where you're coming from however you and I know you're being intellectually dishonest because you KNOW what I said to be true!

Can you honestly in your hearts of hearts believe that IF a group of white men savagely beating some random innocent black couple on the streets it WON'T make the national news?



We all know you're right, of course.
Not only that but if white people committed many of the same animalistic violent assaults that black people have, regardless of victim's race, they would make national news because of the startling, senseless brutality.
 
2013-07-23 03:14:48 PM  
www.woodworkingtalk.com
 
2013-07-23 03:17:33 PM  
zachery.path.med.umich.edu

Trust me, I know what I'm doing.
 
gja
2013-07-23 03:18:22 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: gja: DROxINxTHExWIND: gja: DROxINxTHExWIND: gja: DROxINxTHExWIND: I wish the only oppression I ever had to deal with was the tyranny of not being able to say the "N" word without facing public scrutiny. How the fark do you all live in a world so cruel where the media under reports black crime? It must be rough.

[i.chzbgr.com image 500x374]

I'm not the one who is biatching about unfair treatment by the media. Apparently, blacks aren't the only ones who can play the race card.

Really? So your bias is a figment of the many Farkers and Farekettes who have queried you and called you out on your bias?

Interesting.....


Oh, the bandwagon technique. A majority of Farkers also thought that there were WMDs in Iraq. You should poll them just before you make any decisions. Let me know how it works out for you.

Read through the threads you have posted your tripe and race-laced nonsense in. That's all it tokk to get a good sense of how tilted a view you have on reality.


Your opinion is what it is and I don't care to change it, but if you ever get the chance to go through those threads take a peek at the comment that I was responding too. If the comments that I responded too don't twist your knickers as much as mine apparently do, maybe the problem is you. I don't go into threads talking bad about anyone. I respond to the ignorance that I see.


Your tone (if there can be such a property) in your posts come off as "only racism against blacks is valid and therefore deserving of notation and outrage".
If that's NOT what you intend perhaps it is just me be sick and tired of hearing crap like that from so many sources it has exhausted me.
And you need to stop paying attention to AW's who post crap stats without supporting sources that are verifiable.

OH, and as for "here to help"'s comment that "You or I will never truly know what it's like." he is dead wrong.
When I was growing up I had to put up with being excluded and fairly often hit.
The reason? Back then I was called "dago, guinea, wop, goombah, meatball, geep, ginny, ginzo, garlic-breath, grape-stomper, guido...etc".
I could no more do anything about my lineage than a person could help their skin tone.
 
gja
2013-07-23 03:20:02 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: here to help: DROxINxTHExWIND: Hey everybody! Nothing to see here. The guy who just spent four seperate posts talking about how banning hammers is a distraction and that blacks should focus on the real issues was just pulling our leg. Of COURSE he knew it all along. He just needed a platform to spew his racist diatribe that would make it appear to be in context.

I just want to hear what their solution is. They seem to spout this type of rhetoric freely because their right wing blogs and talk radio super heroes have made it okay for them to push those boundaries but they stop short of coming out with the predictable solution that is bubbling just under the surface. This is because they KNOW it is wrong and if they utter the words they destroy their arguments.

Their solution is for "the blacks" to "help their communities", whatever that means. None of them can get their brother-in-law to stop beating their sisters, but I'm supposed to get every black person a job with a living wage that will allow them to be upwardly mobile or I'm the problem.


Well, I don't think any REASONABLE person expects that. It's like staring at me and asking "when you gonna get rid of the mafia?"
 
2013-07-23 03:20:39 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 156x200]


Dammit, that's what I was going to go with. Now I have to come up with something new.

www.supercheats.com

Are we talking weight of the satellite, the targeting system, or the beam itself?
 
2013-07-23 03:23:57 PM  

gja: DROxINxTHExWIND: gja: DROxINxTHExWIND: gja: DROxINxTHExWIND: gja: DROxINxTHExWIND: I wish the only oppression I ever had to deal with was the tyranny of not being able to say the "N" word without facing public scrutiny. How the fark do you all live in a world so cruel where the media under reports black crime? It must be rough.

[i.chzbgr.com image 500x374]

I'm not the one who is biatching about unfair treatment by the media. Apparently, blacks aren't the only ones who can play the race card.

Really? So your bias is a figment of the many Farkers and Farekettes who have queried you and called you out on your bias?

Interesting.....


Oh, the bandwagon technique. A majority of Farkers also thought that there were WMDs in Iraq. You should poll them just before you make any decisions. Let me know how it works out for you.

Read through the threads you have posted your tripe and race-laced nonsense in. That's all it tokk to get a good sense of how tilted a view you have on reality.


Your opinion is what it is and I don't care to change it, but if you ever get the chance to go through those threads take a peek at the comment that I was responding too. If the comments that I responded too don't twist your knickers as much as mine apparently do, maybe the problem is you. I don't go into threads talking bad about anyone. I respond to the ignorance that I see.

Your tone (if there can be such a property) in your posts come off as "only racism against blacks is valid and therefore deserving of notation and outrage".
If that's NOT what you intend perhaps it is just me be sick and tired of hearing crap like that from so many sources it has exhausted me.
And you need to stop paying attention to AW's who post crap stats without supporting sources that are verifiable.

OH, and as for "here to help"'s comment that "You or I will never truly know what it's like." he is dead wrong.
When I was growing up I had to put up with being excluded and fairly often hit.
The reason? Back then ...



Exclusion is exclusion. It comes in many different forms. Fat people can feel just as put out as a black person who feels that he or she is being treated unfairly. I think the problem many Farkers have with me is that I have no problem addressing them on their level. We can be as ignorant or as civil as you want to be with each other. Doesn't matter to me. Sometimes, the "tone" of the message can make a reader miss the point. I get that. But, I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. i say things the way i want to and i leave the intepretation up to the reader. Some people are able to read my posts and NOT come to the conclusion that I'm a raging whitey-hating, black supremacist. You have to read everything in context.
 
2013-07-23 03:26:03 PM  
I have to start flagging racists with a better color than red 1.  It's been giving me a headache lately.
 
2013-07-23 03:26:08 PM  
A quick google search of Daniel Legette (one of the victims) and NY came up with Linked In profile of someone who appears to be roughly 24 and may be the victim.
 
2013-07-23 03:27:05 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: here to help: DROxINxTHExWIND: Hey everybody! Nothing to see here. The guy who just spent four seperate posts talking about how banning hammers is a distraction and that blacks should focus on the real issues was just pulling our leg. Of COURSE he knew it all along. He just needed a platform to spew his racist diatribe that would make it appear to be in context.

I just want to hear what their solution is. They seem to spout this type of rhetoric freely because their right wing blogs and talk radio super heroes have made it okay for them to push those boundaries but they stop short of coming out with the predictable solution that is bubbling just under the surface. This is because they KNOW it is wrong and if they utter the words they destroy their arguments.

Their solution is for "the blacks" to "help their communities", whatever that means. None of them can get their brother-in-law to stop beating their sisters, but I'm supposed to get every black person a job with a living wage that will allow them to be upwardly mobile or I'm the problem.


Personal responsibility, how does it work?
 
2013-07-23 03:27:52 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-23 03:29:07 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Exclusion is exclusion. It comes in many different forms. Fat people can feel just as put out as a black person who feels that he or she is being treated unfairly. I think the problem many Farkers have with me is that I have no problem addressing them on their level. We can be as ignorant or as civil as you want to be with each other. Doesn't matter to me. Sometimes, the "tone" of the message can make a reader miss the point. I get that. But, I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. i say things the way i want to and i leave the intepretation up to the reader. Some people are able to read my posts and NOT come to the conclusion that I'm a raging whitey-hating, black supremacist. You have to read everything in context.


DAMNIT!! Stop posting things i agree with, it ruins the whole thread
 
2013-07-23 03:30:08 PM  

gja: OH, and as for "here to help"'s comment that "You or I will never truly know what it's like." he is dead wrong.
When I was growing up I had to put up with being excluded and fairly often hit.
The reason? Back then I was called "dago, guinea, wop, goombah, meatball, geep, ginny, ginzo, garlic-breath, grape-stomper, guido...etc".
I could no more do anything about my lineage than a person could help their skin tone.


Then you should bloody well know better. However the Italian American community do not face the same hurdles the African American community does. Getting called names and a few neighborhood dust ups is what pretty much most of us grew up with. I sympathize but it really is not the same thing.
 
2013-07-23 03:30:38 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Exclusion is exclusion. It comes in many different forms. Fat people can feel just as put out as a black person who feels that he or she is being treated unfairly. I think the problem many Farkers have with me is that I have no problem addressing them on their level. We can be as ignorant or as civil as you want to be with each other. Doesn't matter to me. Sometimes, the "tone" of the message can make a reader miss the point. I get that. But, I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. i say things the way i want to and i leave the intepretation up to the reader. Some people are able to read my posts and NOT come to the conclusion that I'm a raging whitey-hating, black supremacist. You have to read everything in context.


Just admit it.  You're secretly Hooper X, aren't you? ;)

Seriously, though, I don't know how you do it.  I had to give up trying to reason with them, which is hard because I tend to be an eternal optimist when you actually get to know people.  I'm seriously considering utilizing the ignore function lately.
 
2013-07-23 03:32:06 PM  

Joe Blowme: DROxINxTHExWIND: here to help: DROxINxTHExWIND: Hey everybody! Nothing to see here. The guy who just spent four seperate posts talking about how banning hammers is a distraction and that blacks should focus on the real issues was just pulling our leg. Of COURSE he knew it all along. He just needed a platform to spew his racist diatribe that would make it appear to be in context.

I just want to hear what their solution is. They seem to spout this type of rhetoric freely because their right wing blogs and talk radio super heroes have made it okay for them to push those boundaries but they stop short of coming out with the predictable solution that is bubbling just under the surface. This is because they KNOW it is wrong and if they utter the words they destroy their arguments.

Their solution is for "the blacks" to "help their communities", whatever that means. None of them can get their brother-in-law to stop beating their sisters, but I'm supposed to get every black person a job with a living wage that will allow them to be upwardly mobile or I'm the problem.

Personal responsibility, how does it work?

I

highlighted a key word for you. People are individuals. While I do all that I can to assist those in need, I cannot PERSONALLY be held responsible for all of their actions. But if that's the way its got to be, I'll mentor Lil Wayne if you get Beiber to stop acting like an ass.
 
2013-07-23 03:32:30 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-23 03:32:33 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: None of them can get their brother-in-law to stop beating their sisters


Tie up a sheep in front their trailer.

Problem solved.
 
gja
2013-07-23 03:32:54 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Exclusion is exclusion. It comes in many different forms. Fat people can feel just as put out as a black person who feels that he or she is being treated unfairly. I think the problem many Farkers have with me is that I have no problem addressing them on their level. We can be as ignorant or as civil as you want to be with each other. Doesn't matter to me. Sometimes, the "tone" of the message can make a reader miss the point. I get that. But, I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. i say things the way i want to and i leave the intepretation up to the reader. Some people are able to read my posts and NOT come to the conclusion that I'm a raging whitey-hating, black supremacist. You have to read everything in context.


That's cool.
I can get behind sometimes being abrasive to (pardon the pun, can't help myself here) "hammer the point home".
Just be cognizant that there will be times it will come off as dickishness, and you need to not be too visceral in your retorts or you reinforce that false image.
Context is difficult in this arena.
 
2013-07-23 03:35:38 PM  
When the only tool you have is a hammer, all of your problems look like nails.
 
2013-07-23 03:36:09 PM  

biyaaatci: DROxINxTHExWIND: Exclusion is exclusion. It comes in many different forms. Fat people can feel just as put out as a black person who feels that he or she is being treated unfairly. I think the problem many Farkers have with me is that I have no problem addressing them on their level. We can be as ignorant or as civil as you want to be with each other. Doesn't matter to me. Sometimes, the "tone" of the message can make a reader miss the point. I get that. But, I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. i say things the way i want to and i leave the intepretation up to the reader. Some people are able to read my posts and NOT come to the conclusion that I'm a raging whitey-hating, black supremacist. You have to read everything in context.

Just admit it.  You're secretly Hooper X, aren't you? ;)

Seriously, though, I don't know how you do it.  I had to give up trying to reason with them, which is hard because I tend to be an eternal optimist when you actually get to know people.  I'm seriously considering utilizing the ignore function lately.



Meh. Its all in how you look at it. I'm not going to change the world view of a keyboard racist by poking holes in his logic, so I don't try. I just give the other side of the argument. Debating is fun to me.
 
gja
2013-07-23 03:36:53 PM  

here to help: gja: OH, and as for "here to help"'s comment that "You or I will never truly know what it's like." he is dead wrong.
When I was growing up I had to put up with being excluded and fairly often hit.
The reason? Back then I was called "dago, guinea, wop, goombah, meatball, geep, ginny, ginzo, garlic-breath, grape-stomper, guido...etc".
I could no more do anything about my lineage than a person could help their skin tone.

Then you should bloody well know better. However the Italian American community do not face the same hurdles the African American community does. Getting called names and a few neighborhood dust ups is what pretty much most of us grew up with. I sympathize but it really is not the same thing.


A "few neighborhood dust ups"?
So, a broken wrist, shot 4 times with a BB gun, several black-eyes and being robbed numerous times fall into that category?
You really want to use that catch-all to cover that?
 
2013-07-23 03:39:17 PM  

gja: DROxINxTHExWIND: Exclusion is exclusion. It comes in many different forms. Fat people can feel just as put out as a black person who feels that he or she is being treated unfairly. I think the problem many Farkers have with me is that I have no problem addressing them on their level. We can be as ignorant or as civil as you want to be with each other. Doesn't matter to me. Sometimes, the "tone" of the message can make a reader miss the point. I get that. But, I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. i say things the way i want to and i leave the intepretation up to the reader. Some people are able to read my posts and NOT come to the conclusion that I'm a raging whitey-hating, black supremacist. You have to read everything in context.

That's cool.
I can get behind sometimes being abrasive to (pardon the pun, can't help myself here) "hammer the point home".
Just be cognizant that there will be times it will come off as dickishness, and you need to not be too visceral in your retorts or you reinforce that false image.
Context is difficult in this arena.



Sound advice. Noted.

/See, that wasn't as bad as we thought it was going to be  ;-)
 
2013-07-23 03:43:28 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Joe Blowme: DROxINxTHExWIND: here to help: DROxINxTHExWIND: Hey everybody! Nothing to see here. The guy who just spent four seperate posts talking about how banning hammers is a distraction and that blacks should focus on the real issues was just pulling our leg. Of COURSE he knew it all along. He just needed a platform to spew his racist diatribe that would make it appear to be in context.

I just want to hear what their solution is. They seem to spout this type of rhetoric freely because their right wing blogs and talk radio super heroes have made it okay for them to push those boundaries but they stop short of coming out with the predictable solution that is bubbling just under the surface. This is because they KNOW it is wrong and if they utter the words they destroy their arguments.

Their solution is for "the blacks" to "help their communities", whatever that means. None of them can get their brother-in-law to stop beating their sisters, but I'm supposed to get every black person a job with a living wage that will allow them to be upwardly mobile or I'm the problem.

Personal responsibility, how does it work?

I highlighted a key word for you. People are individuals. While I do all that I can to assist those in need, I cannot PERSONALLY be held responsible for all of their actions. But if that's the way its got to be, I'll mentor Lil Wayne if you get Beiber to stop acting like an ass.


Maybe we can get a survivor show with Beiber and Lil wayne on an island... throw in some kardashians.... maybe Honey boo boo.

/i know you cant do it, thats why i said personal responsibility
 
2013-07-23 03:46:08 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Their solution is for "the blacks" to "help their communities", whatever that means. None of them can get their brother-in-law to stop beating their sisters, but I'm supposed to get every black person a job with a living wage that will allow them to be upwardly mobile or I'm the problem.


Well I do agree that at this point the change does definitely have to come from within. There is far too little trust for anyone else to go in and tinker with things now. However what society needs to do is provide them with the resources they need to accomplish this change and make sure that the positive leaders in the community are the ones taking charge (not the JJ's and Sharpton's of the world). This ain't something that can be bootstrapped away.

But I was talking about the more severe dudes rhetoric. Their solution likely has a lot less to do with giving the community ANY benefit of the doubt and is a little more "final" in it's execution. I think we've got two major types of modern racists who prattle on about the crime numbers and stats as a tactic. Those who have not thought about what the next step is and are just squawking and following the herd. Then there are those who want to go back to the old ways of doing things. If the former realized that the only possible out come of their hate is the latter's fix then they might shake their heads and step back from the brink but the talking heads and propaganda artists will never point that out to them.

Fixing poverty, drug issues and lack of proper education are the only real solutions. This goes for ALL at risk communities. That takes money and effort though and would take away talking points for the self serving, power hungry assholes who run things.

I hope things improve in my lifetime but sadly I do not feel too confident.
 
2013-07-23 03:49:12 PM  

gja: A "few neighborhood dust ups"?
So, a broken wrist, shot 4 times with a BB gun, several black-eyes and being robbed numerous times fall into that category?
You really want to use that catch-all to cover that?


I'm sorry but although that might seem a little extreme it's not all that uncommon for anyone growing up in a rough neighborhood. Kids are assholes. It is certainly not an excuse to ignore the real issues and simply blame an entire race of people.
 
2013-07-23 03:51:14 PM  

here to help: gja: A "few neighborhood dust ups"?
So, a broken wrist, shot 4 times with a BB gun, several black-eyes and being robbed numerous times fall into that category?
You really want to use that catch-all to cover that?

I'm sorry but although that might seem a little extreme it's not all that uncommon for anyone growing up in a rough neighborhood. Kids are assholes. It is certainly not an excuse to ignore the real issues and simply blame an entire race of people.


Also I'm sure they got it just as bad from your crew. That's the thing about racial tensions. It is a cycle. A give and take. It is very difficult to break that cycle once it has started.
 
2013-07-23 03:51:27 PM  

ciberido: darth_badger: whither_apophis: What kind of hammer? Claw, sledge, ball peen, tack, MC, Mike???

Claw.

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2013-07-23 03:52:03 PM  

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Shut up, coont
 
2013-07-23 03:54:01 PM  

Joe Blowme: DROxINxTHExWIND: Joe Blowme: DROxINxTHExWIND: here to help: DROxINxTHExWIND: Hey everybody! Nothing to see here. The guy who just spent four seperate posts talking about how banning hammers is a distraction and that blacks should focus on the real issues was just pulling our leg. Of COURSE he knew it all along. He just needed a platform to spew his racist diatribe that would make it appear to be in context.

I just want to hear what their solution is. They seem to spout this type of rhetoric freely because their right wing blogs and talk radio super heroes have made it okay for them to push those boundaries but they stop short of coming out with the predictable solution that is bubbling just under the surface. This is because they KNOW it is wrong and if they utter the words they destroy their arguments.

Their solution is for "the blacks" to "help their communities", whatever that means. None of them can get their brother-in-law to stop beating their sisters, but I'm supposed to get every black person a job with a living wage that will allow them to be upwardly mobile or I'm the problem.

Personal responsibility, how does it work?

I highlighted a key word for you. People are individuals. While I do all that I can to assist those in need, I cannot PERSONALLY be held responsible for all of their actions. But if that's the way its got to be, I'll mentor Lil Wayne if you get Beiber to stop acting like an ass.

Maybe we can get a survivor show with Beiber and Lil wayne on an island... throw in some kardashians.... maybe Honey boo boo.

/i know you cant do it, thats why i said personal responsibility



 Yeah, i got that but it was after i had posted the snark. At least I wasn't too assholish about it. Oh, and I'm sure the reality stars that you named are now far too famous to be bothering with the show you proposed. You'll end up with Tito Kardashian and Honey Boo Boo's little know cousin Italian cousin, Oregano Boo Boo.
 
2013-07-23 03:54:33 PM  

gja: here to help: gja: OH, and as for "here to help"'s comment that "You or I will never truly know what it's like." he is dead wrong.
When I was growing up I had to put up with being excluded and fairly often hit.
The reason? Back then I was called "dago, guinea, wop, goombah, meatball, geep, ginny, ginzo, garlic-breath, grape-stomper, guido...etc".
I could no more do anything about my lineage than a person could help their skin tone.

Then you should bloody well know better. However the Italian American community do not face the same hurdles the African American community does. Getting called names and a few neighborhood dust ups is what pretty much most of us grew up with. I sympathize but it really is not the same thing.

A "few neighborhood dust ups"?
So, a broken wrist, shot 4 times with a BB gun, several black-eyes and being robbed numerous times fall into that category?
You really want to use that catch-all to cover that?



Just remembering the hundreds of times I've been shot with a BB gun (and shot right back).

Good times, man.  Good times.
 
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