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(Yahoo)   Do you have a need for speed? Well if you get caught in Georgia, Illinois, North Carolina, Nevada or New Hampshire, you better have at least $1000 in your wallet. Oh and Vermont sucks   (autos.yahoo.com) divider line 33
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2013-07-23 12:38:02 PM
6 votes:
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"I went through Georgia pretty quickly. I didn't get a ticket."
2013-07-23 01:08:17 PM
5 votes:
The Cycle Of Suck
By Fark_Guy_Rob

Start off with an honorable goal - like keeping the roads safe.
Then you give people power to enforce those laws (traffic cops).
Then you have to pay those people (taxes).
Then you say, 'Hey - let the criminals pay!' (fines).
Then the people with the power (city workers and traffic cops) benefiting from collecting fines.

And now you've got all these people who *in theory* exist to keep the roads safe, but *in practice* exist to generate revenue.

And from this you end up with official (or unofficial) ticket quota systems.  Overzealous enforcement (I'm parked 2" behind the white line - but I got a ticket?!?!).  Ridiculous fines and appeal processes (pay $300 now, or go to court and pay $500), dangerous/criminal acts designed to 'catch' unsuspecting motorists - like artificially lowering a speed limit on a stretch of highway so that the flow of traffic routinely exceeds it, shortening of yellow lights, adding red-light cameras....all things that have been shown time and time again to make the roads *unsafe* - but are great ways of generating revenue.

Nobody involved in making the laws, or enforcing them, should benefit financially.  It's a clear conflict of interest and it leads to all sorts of serious problems.
2013-07-23 12:47:28 PM
4 votes:
Remember, it's for your $afety.
2013-07-23 12:45:17 PM
4 votes:
If you can't tell that this is a police car:

listings.zenfs.com

STOP FARKING DRIVING!
2013-07-23 01:43:19 PM
3 votes:
To all those saying "just don't speed", it's not that simple. One thing North American road engineers haven't yet grasped (or have decided to conveniently ignore for the sake of $afety) is that every roadway has a natural momentum that should appropriately dictate the speed.

Driving in most of Europe is functional and stress-less because of this fact. A road that "feels" like an 80 usually has a speed limit of 80, and not 60 so that some bag of dicks can sit there and catch you with his speed gun to justify his paycheck.

This isn't a matter of speed or safety. It's a matter of corrupt politics and the exploitation of our road systems for the sake of revenue. Idiot teenagers and reckless morons aside, most of us are just regular individuals attempting to use the roads as they were meant to be driven.

Those who follow the laws without questions are the most dangerous drivers AND individuals to society, not those who break the laws when they hold no real-world validity.
2013-07-23 01:08:11 PM
3 votes:

Mr_Fabulous: I do about 80 mph every day on I-88 in Illinois. Every day, for years. No worries.

But the shiatty little town where my office is... they've fined me 4 times in the past 3 years for right-hand turns on red without coming to a complete stop for more than 1 full second. The sort of "offense" that an actual cop wouldn't even notice, much less care about... but cameras have no sense for the 'spirit of the law'. (True Fact:  it's the same town Al Capone is buried in.)


Being pissed at the first red light ticket I can understand. Getting another three is hilarious.
2013-07-23 01:07:22 PM
2 votes:

Gecko Gingrich


//On anther trip, I got pulled over doing something like 62 in a 55 (out of state tags, man) and the GA State Trooper actually told me, "You ain't gonna get there no faster by speeding, son." He must have failed physics.


Not necessarily*.

When he pulled you over, you became stationary. The whole time you were stationary your average speed (total distance/time) was dropping. It's entirely possible - even likely - that driving 55mph the whole way would have gotten you there sooner than (traveling 62mph + time stopped) did.


* Who are we kidding? Of course he failed, he's a cop.
2013-07-23 12:46:27 PM
2 votes:
So how did states get out of the "excessive fines" language in the constitution. Why even have a constitution when states can simply do whatever the fark they want.
2013-07-23 12:41:00 PM
2 votes:
Article sucks,  subby sucks more.
2013-07-23 06:40:09 PM
1 votes:
How about "don't speed"?

Idiots.
2013-07-23 04:57:54 PM
1 votes:
True Story about Speeding in Vermont:
I lived there for about 10 years, and while there I lived in a little ski town of about 3500 people that was a notorious speed trap (courtesy of Town Constable Nelson Tift) for tourists coming to Killington Resort .

Two friends of mine were in town one weekend to get hitched by a Justice of the Peace on the other side of the mountain, and I insisted on providing them with a wedding cake, flowers, champagne etc. for their special day...and I was running a bit late.  So there we were, all dressed up, my son in the back with the cake in his lap, and me in the front with flowers and decorations, and balloons bobbing around in the "way back" of my station wagon...

We rounded the curve to go up the mountain going about 10 MPH over the speed limit. and (UGH!) I saw Tift tucked away in a little roadside nook he often used as a hiding place.  So I started to slow down immediately and pulled over just as he got behind me.  There was no point in trying to avoid a ticket.

In typical law enforcement form, he asked for my license and registration and asked if I knew why he'd pulled me over. I sheepishly acknowledged that I had been going too fast and apologized saying "It's just that...we're on our way to a wedding, and we have all the decorations, so it can't start without us, and... I just didn't want to be late."

I could tell he was scrutinizing both my driver's license (which noted that I was a local) and the contents of my car carefully.

He then handed my license back to me and said, "Ma'am, when the town of Mendon hired me, they didn't hire me to ruin anybody's wedding day.  Please drive more safely in the future."

And with that... he let me go!  I was agog!  But I didn't question it -- just went happily on my way.

Fast forward to a couple of years later.  I was elected to the Selectboard (sort of like a city council) of that town, and was telling the Town Administrator who had lived there since forEVer about the day Nelson Tift let me go with a warning.  Now this lady worked with Nelson on a regular basis AND she handled the books for the town so she knew all too well how much revenue he generated from speeding tickets.

She refused to believe me.  I insisted.  And she STILL refused to believe me.  "Nelson NEVER lets anyone off with a warning!  Ever!"

Then I told her the particulars of the situation and her face softened and she said, "Ah. That's why.  Nelson's got a BIG soft spot for weddings."  LOL!

I guess it was my lucky day.
2013-07-23 02:17:18 PM
1 votes:

Fade2black: I pull over for every speeding ticket I get. I also get every single one dropped.

But guess what asshole? If you make it $1000 to speed, you're gonna earn it when you fire up those lights. Cuz I'm gonna run.

/SCCA License, autocrosser, stage 2 2010 STI...good luck.


Radio is faster than you.

And evasion is a felony in many states, so there's jail time and loss of rights.
2013-07-23 01:59:59 PM
1 votes:

cannotsuggestaname: Second reading was 134 mph in a 55 mph zone


They should have thrown you in jail and seized your car.
2013-07-23 01:55:07 PM
1 votes:
My rule: Don't be the fastest guy (and I usually keep the cruise about 9mph over the limit on long trips).  Second rule: if you're the only guy, slow down a bit.  Usually 7 over is pretty safe.  10 or more over and you're gambling saved time against the potential fine.
2013-07-23 01:51:34 PM
1 votes:

cannotsuggestaname: First reading was 108 mph in a 55 mph zone
Second reading was 134 mph in a 55 mph zone
careless and reckless
endangering (no one was on the road besides me and the cops)
failure to yield
eluding (I had to make it fun for them)

All of that adds up to 10 points, a big fine and a lost license... I was just pointing out that I got a ticket 20+ years ago for a first offense that was higher than what this guy was complaining about :)


So...you were going almost three times the speed limit, and you led the cops on a high-speed chase, and you are surprised that the fine was higher than most "first-offenses"? Really? Are you aware that the penalties for armed robbery and murder are also stiffer than most traffic offenses?
2013-07-23 01:47:32 PM
1 votes:
I've lived in Vermont since 1998. Never gotten a speeding ticket.
2013-07-23 01:38:00 PM
1 votes:

Mr_Fabulous: But the shiatty little town where my office is... they've fined me 4 times in the past 3 years for right-hand turns on red without coming to a complete stop for more than 1 full second.


Seems to be a common attitude among internet drivers that they can blow through a red light as long as they're turning right, or on a bicycle. Which is completely wrong. You have to stop first, turn or no turn, car or bicycle.
2013-07-23 01:32:25 PM
1 votes:

To The Escape Zeppelin!: North Carolina really isn't bad for tickets.


NC just sucks in general.  Anyone who lives their whole life and never sets foot (or drives through) NC is better off.
2013-07-23 01:29:40 PM
1 votes:

Glitchwerks: Actually, he's right or at least has a point. The amount of time saved by speeding is usually less than a couple of minutes. Especially with how poorly synchronized Georgia's traffic lights are.


Over that 700 mile trip, the difference in travel time between averaging 55 and averaging 60 is just over an hour.
2013-07-23 01:14:05 PM
1 votes:

Firethorn: The prohibition is 'cruel and unusual'.  IE if they give the fine to everyone for that offense it's not unusual, and since they're not tossing you in jail or hitting you or anything it's not 'cruel'.


I'm aware, but excessive fines are mentioned in the eighth, but somehow are not applicable to states. Why? Stating something that is unreasonable for the federal government to do, but is OK for a state seems like ridiculous logic.
2013-07-23 01:03:51 PM
1 votes:

Click Click D'oh: If you can't tell that this is a police car:

[listings.zenfs.com image 593x347]

STOP FARKING DRIVING!


No kidding.  I've seen plenty of police cars that are much less obvious - labels on the side don't mean much in my rear view mirror, and the lightbar is a dead giveaway.  I've seen far, far lower profile, including some that are actually inside the car - they shine out the windshield.  Even the pushbar isn't a good indicator up here; plenty of cars have something similar due to wildlife(can reduce an animal strike from 'vehicle totaled' to '$500 of paintwork when I get around to it').

MayoSlather: So how did states get out of the "excessive fines" language in the constitution. Why even have a constitution when states can simply do whatever the fark they want.


The prohibition is 'cruel and unusual'.  IE if they give the fine to everyone for that offense it's not unusual, and since they're not tossing you in jail or hitting you or anything it's not 'cruel'.

dforkus: I haven't heard of 1000 dollar tickets here, I assume that would only get dolled out for jackasses doing 25 over in school zone or something like that...


I've heard of jackasses getting fines of more than what the bike they got it on is worth.  speeding 50+ over the speed limit in a construction zone(x2) tends to do that.  Of course, at that point it was actually criminal, leading to arrest and charges, not just civil penalties.
2013-07-23 12:53:58 PM
1 votes:
As a person who often drives through downstate IL (not Chicago land), I do not drive more than 5 over.

Broke state is broke, and they are really cracking down for $afety.
2013-07-23 12:53:35 PM
1 votes:

jgilb: Instead of biatching, just don't speed.


Not that it will necessarily help.  I'm not saying I've never sped (although I've never knowingly been 10 over), but I will say that the one-and-only time I've ever gotten a ticket, I was several mph under the posted limit.  And you have absolutely no way to argue that you weren't in a small town with a million-dollar Taj Mahal of a police HQ.
2013-07-23 12:52:40 PM
1 votes:
I remember that $15 parking ticket case being on fark. That guy should not have lost the case. States didn't use to charge for the first appeal, now many do.
2013-07-23 12:52:35 PM
1 votes:

Gecko Gingrich: A number of years back, I was driving from my home in MD to my future FIL's home in ATL, a drive of around 10 hours. Most of the trip I drove at the speed of traffic, around 10mph higher than the posted limit. As I got near to his exit on 285, at about 3AM, I noticed a Panoz pull onto the highway a few exits ahead. Wanted to see it up close before I had to leave the highway, I sped up to 75mph. Just before I caught up to it, I saw flashing lights in my rear view.

I pulled over not a mile from my destination and got a "Call tomorrow and they'll tell you your fine" ticket for going 75 in a 55, on a practically empty, *extremely* well-lit, 10 lane (5 in each direction) divided highway. I called the next day and was told my fine would be $450, $550 if I didn't pay within 14 days. That was 12 years ago; I still haven't paid it. The whole, "Call and we'll tell you the fine" sounded too much like, "Let's fark out-of-towers and minorities (I am not one)". fark Georgia.

By the way, doing 75 in a 55 in MD is a $160 fine. Everyone pays the same, as it's posted right on the back of every ticket.


/Have a friend who is a cop. I had him check a few years back. There are no outstanding warrants for me in GA. :)


You're lucky you didn't get run over only going 75 on 285, or any other ATL highway.
2013-07-23 12:46:14 PM
1 votes:
Instead of biatching, just don't speed.
If you can't plan your activities to a degree of accuracy where you need to speed...
2013-07-23 12:45:44 PM
1 votes:

Kirzania: [listings.zenfs.com image 593x357]

Worth it just for this picture. Also, is he throwing that SuperTroopers shot in there to poke fun or for serious?


The movie took place in Vermont.

Also, to the person caught going 75 on I-285, you got caught?  Dude, the 55 MPH sign flaps in the breeze of 7,000 cars passing by it going at least 80.
2013-07-23 12:45:03 PM
1 votes:
North Carolina really isn't bad for tickets. They're expensive if you get one but you really have to be flying to have the cops pull you over. Speeding ticket money all goes to education so cops don't have any financial motivation to to ticket people for going 5 over the limit. I've never heard of anyone here getting a traffic ticket unless they were actually doing something unsafe.

They're a complete ripoff if you do get one though. Court costs to fight the ticket are often conveniently the same amount of money as just paying the fine.
2013-07-23 12:44:16 PM
1 votes:
$1000 isn't an outrageous amount for a ticket if you're going 20-30mph over in a work/school zone. That shiat is dangerous and wherever you're going can wait an extra 5-10 minutes for you to get there.

Also DC gives out so many tickets/relative to the population, because the DC metro area has a population of nearly 6 million as opposed to the 500k number they give. Not to mention no one in the city knows how to use a roundabout.
2013-07-23 12:29:47 PM
1 votes:
sick?
yes it is sick that people speed so much in construction zones, putting everyone at risk.
yes it is sick that people who speed QQ about getting caught and then having to pay fines.

/of course I speed
/but I never get caught since I bought that insanely awesome radar detector.
/and stopped driving like a COMPLETE asshole.
2013-07-23 12:21:55 PM
1 votes:
A number of years back, I was driving from my home in MD to my future FIL's home in ATL, a drive of around 10 hours. Most of the trip I drove at the speed of traffic, around 10mph higher than the posted limit. As I got near to his exit on 285, at about 3AM, I noticed a Panoz pull onto the highway a few exits ahead. Wanted to see it up close before I had to leave the highway, I sped up to 75mph. Just before I caught up to it, I saw flashing lights in my rear view.

I pulled over not a mile from my destination and got a "Call tomorrow and they'll tell you your fine" ticket for going 75 in a 55, on a practically empty, *extremely* well-lit, 10 lane (5 in each direction) divided highway. I called the next day and was told my fine would be $450, $550 if I didn't pay within 14 days. That was 12 years ago; I still haven't paid it. The whole, "Call and we'll tell you the fine" sounded too much like, "Let's fark out-of-towers and minorities (I am not one)". fark Georgia.

By the way, doing 75 in a 55 in MD is a $160 fine. Everyone pays the same, as it's posted right on the back of every ticket.


/Have a friend who is a cop. I had him check a few years back. There are no outstanding warrants for me in GA. :)
2013-07-23 12:17:56 PM
1 votes:
You won't get pulled over in Illinois unless you're going 15 over unless you're doing something else wrong too.
2013-07-23 12:03:19 PM
1 votes:
I've lived in Massachusetts for most of my life

*stopreadingthere.jpeg*

/Probably kept getting ticketed in Vermont by driving like a Masshole
//Probably complained liked one when the cop pulled him over
 
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