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2013-07-23 01:10:42 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: I do about 80 mph every day on I-88 in Illinois. Every day, for years. No worries.

But the shiatty little town where my office is... they've fined me 4 times in the past 3 years for right-hand turns on red without coming to a complete stop for more than 1 full second. The sort of "offense" that an actual cop wouldn't even notice, much less care about... but cameras have no sense for the 'spirit of the law'. (True Fact:  it's the same town Al Capone is buried in.)


If only there were SOME way to actually learn from the first 1-3 times you got a ticket.

And yah, you are not going to get a ticket doing 80 with normal traffic.
80 weaving in and out, 80 on a dead day, you are screwed.

If only the counties started putting in automatic cameras on the highway.
/no wait, that would TOTALLY SUCK!!!!
 
2013-07-23 01:12:44 PM  

cannotsuggestaname: my very first speeding ticket I ever received was in North Carolina. I had a $1500 fine, 100 hours of community service and I lost my license for a year.

So I guess that means their fines went down in the past 20 years.


wow
so nice of you to give the useless details.
how fast were you going?
what was the posted speed?
was it a construction zone?

can we just assume that you are a tool and left out the details which would make it clear that you are a tool?
 
2013-07-23 01:13:56 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: I do about 80 mph every day on I-88 in Illinois. Every day, for years. No worries.

But the shiatty little town where my office is... they've fined me 4 times in the past 3 years for right-hand turns on red without coming to a complete stop for more than 1 full second. The sort of "offense" that an actual cop wouldn't even notice, much less care about... but cameras have no sense for the 'spirit of the law'. (True Fact:  it's the same town Al Capone is buried in.)


All I get out of that story is that you are a very, very slow learner.

/ either that or the tickets for the turns are just really small so you don't care
 
2013-07-23 01:14:05 PM  

Firethorn: The prohibition is 'cruel and unusual'.  IE if they give the fine to everyone for that offense it's not unusual, and since they're not tossing you in jail or hitting you or anything it's not 'cruel'.


I'm aware, but excessive fines are mentioned in the eighth, but somehow are not applicable to states. Why? Stating something that is unreasonable for the federal government to do, but is OK for a state seems like ridiculous logic.
 
2013-07-23 01:15:13 PM  
This is why I'm so happy I moved to DFW.

Everyone does 15 over in Texas--everyone; not a single fark was given by Johnny Law.
 
2013-07-23 01:15:56 PM  
Every time I have been cited for speeding in Nevada the cop has always lowered the penalty somehow. When I was going 19 in a school zone (15), he removed the school zone penalty so it wouldn't double the fine and I would only have to pay the fine for 4 miles per hour.
 
2013-07-23 01:18:51 PM  
Another Illinoisian here.

I'm perfectly ok with outrageous fines for work zones, school zones, texting/speeding, hell texting and driving at all.  And FARK the writer of that whiny piece of crap for the "a few seconds of inattention" line.  A few seconds of inattention is all it takes to cut down a kid, a worker, run off the road and kill yourself.

Downstate right now they are cruising with unmarked Suburbans and Tahoes, using a liter up on a JLG in a work zone to call you in.

I don't speed anymore.  I used to speed a lot when I had an hour's drive to work on way, and was very lucky (no tickets for speeding ever in 35 years of driving).  Decided that the 10 minutes I may gain wasn't worth my $$ and sitting on the side of the road for 30 mins when I got pulled over.
 
2013-07-23 01:19:57 PM  

Alunan: Every time I have been cited for speeding in Nevada the cop has always lowered the penalty somehow. When I was going 19 in a school zone (15), he removed the school zone penalty so it wouldn't double the fine and I would only have to pay the fine for 4 miles per hour.


You sound well endowed
 
2013-07-23 01:24:01 PM  
VT only sicks if you have NY plates. The rest of us do just fine
 
2013-07-23 01:27:36 PM  
Heh I still have the ticket I received in MA for speeding back around 1995. 102 in a 55 and the cop said he was being lenient because I was actually doing 115, and he said anything above 102 he would have to arrest me. Ticket came out to $420.
 
2013-07-23 01:27:57 PM  
what about NT

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2013-07-23 01:28:10 PM  
one of the beautiful things about living in PA is that local police are prohibited from using radar to catch speeders - only the State Police can legally use it.

/now let us buy liquor and beer in grocery stores and i'll be happy
 
2013-07-23 01:28:26 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: A number of years back, I was driving from my home in MD to my future FIL's home in ATL, a drive of around 10 hours. Most of the trip I drove at the speed of traffic, around 10mph higher than the posted limit. As I got near to his exit on 285, at about 3AM, I noticed a Panoz pull onto the highway a few exits ahead. Wanted to see it up close before I had to leave the highway, I sped up to 75mph. Just before I caught up to it, I saw flashing lights in my rear view.

I pulled over not a mile from my destination and got a "Call tomorrow and they'll tell you your fine" ticket for going 75 in a 55, on a practically empty, *extremely* well-lit, 10 lane (5 in each direction) divided highway. I called the next day and was told my fine would be $450, $550 if I didn't pay within 14 days. That was 12 years ago; I still haven't paid it. The whole, "Call and we'll tell you the fine" sounded too much like, "Let's fark out-of-towers and minorities (I am not one)". fark Georgia.

By the way, doing 75 in a 55 in MD is a $160 fine. Everyone pays the same, as it's posted right on the back of every ticket.


/Have a friend who is a cop. I had him check a few years back. There are no outstanding warrants for me in GA. :)


you actually got a ticket for driving too slow. 75 is the speed for the far right lane on 285
 
2013-07-23 01:28:37 PM  
few years ago I was going maybe 80mph on I65 south of Indianapolis.
middle of the day, sparse traffic
come over a hill and find "several" cars up ahead pulled off to the left with about 3 squad cars flashing.
couple of cops STANDING in the left lane.
I'm in the middle lane.
One of them walks into the middle lane, apparently points at me and gestures to me to join the other cars off to the left.
First thing I do is pull to the right lane and pass everyone up so I don't hit the cop.  wtf?

No one came after me, no clue what the hell that was about.

/GA Trooper friend tells me I should have pulled over
//also says keep it "under 11 over" in GA and I'll be fine
 
2013-07-23 01:28:50 PM  
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/oblig
 
2013-07-23 01:29:06 PM  

cannotsuggestaname: my very first speeding ticket I ever received was in North Carolina. I had a $1500 fine, 100 hours of community service and I lost my license for a year.

So I guess that means their fines went down in the past 20 years.


Holy shiat. Did you speed over an infant?

I've had 3 NC tickets and had none of that.
 
2013-07-23 01:29:32 PM  
Ah good old Teddy. Island Pond finally got tired of him and booted him out. God he was an a-hole. You could get a ticket for going 36 in a 35.

He spent a lot of time just sitting across the street from Simon the Tanner. Lurking like a big toad.
 
2013-07-23 01:29:40 PM  

Glitchwerks: Actually, he's right or at least has a point. The amount of time saved by speeding is usually less than a couple of minutes. Especially with how poorly synchronized Georgia's traffic lights are.


Over that 700 mile trip, the difference in travel time between averaging 55 and averaging 60 is just over an hour.
 
2013-07-23 01:29:49 PM  
As someone who just drove from Florida to Connecticut last week, I'm getting a kick pout of these replies.

If you stay between 7 and 10 miles over the speed limit you'll be fine.

In North Carolina I was paced by a cop while I was 8 miles over the speed limit. He ran my plates, which were Jersey plates, have me a chin jut and went on to the next person.
 
2013-07-23 01:30:34 PM  
I just got a speeding ticket so I'm getting a kick out of these .... etc etc etc ...

I just got a ticket in my brand new car (less than 200 miles on it) driving through CT on 95 (65 speed limit). normally this wouldn't piss me off except I had the cruise set at 75, saw the cop and slowed to 70, saw him pull out behind me and slowed to 65, and he still pulled me over, claimed his radar got me at 83 and I was still doing 75 when he hit his lights. I immediately took the car back to the dealer, who found absolutely nothing wrong with the speedometer or the cruise control.

My car has NY plates so in my opinion this was an easy ticket for the cop who knew I wasn't going to spend money taking time off work and driving back to CT to fight it.

The last time I had a ticket was in 84 when I was (admittedly) speeding home after hurricane Gloria and I was the only car on i495, other than the cop who obviously felt it was more important to hang out on the side of the expressway than maybe help people out after a hurricane.

So regardless of where the money goes ... I saw no mention of monthly quotas - is that a myth?
 
2013-07-23 01:31:52 PM  
And people laugh about living in Flint, MI.  I roll around with a suspended license because I know the cops have better things to do, like homicide and assault investigations, etc.  I haven't been pulled over in over 15 years and I roll around like I'm Hunter S Thompson.
 
2013-07-23 01:31:58 PM  
I am in Las Vegas. The last time I got pulled over, I was doing 54 in a 35, so I completely deserved it. The cop cited me for 5 over, and the ticket ended up being $145. My insurance didn't even go up.
 
2013-07-23 01:32:25 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: North Carolina really isn't bad for tickets.


NC just sucks in general.  Anyone who lives their whole life and never sets foot (or drives through) NC is better off.
 
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2013-07-23 01:32:27 PM  
North Carolina's system is designed to force plea bargains. 80 mph is a misdemeanor with a big fine and license suspension. If you fight. Take the standard plea to "defective speedometer" and you can keep driving as long as you like. They recently changed the law so you can't take that plea if you're going way over the limit, so consider the North Carolina speed limit to be 95 or so with a random tax for driving between 80 and 95.

At least Virginia got rid of the multi-thousand dollar speeding tickets. Voters decided that was too greedy.
 
2013-07-23 01:33:03 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: By the way, doing 75 in a 55 in MD is a $160 fine. Everyone pays the same, as it's posted right on the back of every ticket.


In WA, that's considered "reckless driving" and a gross demeanor punishable by up to a year in jail and a $5000 (five grand) fine.

I found this out on a trip to Seattle.  I always run 10 over the limit and didn't notice the limit had dropped to 50.  I got caught and let off with a warning, which was incredibly awesome of the cop.
 
2013-07-23 01:37:33 PM  

Glitchwerks: In Georgia (and probably everywhere else) they set speed traps just around corners and just past the crest of hills.


Yep, in Ohio (at least in the hilly parts) they do this too. I want to say that they have to be visible at so many yards, but I have no evidence to back up that statement.  I do know that I have never seen an Ohio State Highway Patrol (OSHP) at night sitting on the side of the interstate or in the median without his lights on.

Firethorn: I've seen far, far lower profile, including some that are actually inside the car - they shine out the windshield.


Yeah, the new OSHP cars have one that can easily be mistaken for a bike rack, plus it is all blue.

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2013-07-23 01:38:00 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: But the shiatty little town where my office is... they've fined me 4 times in the past 3 years for right-hand turns on red without coming to a complete stop for more than 1 full second.


Seems to be a common attitude among internet drivers that they can blow through a red light as long as they're turning right, or on a bicycle. Which is completely wrong. You have to stop first, turn or no turn, car or bicycle.
 
2013-07-23 01:38:05 PM  
I dunno about VT, but here in NC there are crap-tons of unmarked cars, and new models every year (or so it seems).

That said, at least it isn't VA, where you get extra cavity search action for owning a radar detector.
 
2013-07-23 01:38:32 PM  
The $1000 fine and 1 year in jail is TECHNICALLY true in Georgia, but not really.

All traffic offenses in Georgia are misdemeanors, and all misdemeanors carry the same MAXIMUM penalty of $1000 fine and 1 year in jail.  The actual fine is rarely anywhere near that amount, but they can use the maximum amount to scare you if want to contest the charge.  If you ask for a trial, you stand a chance of winning and paying nothing, but also losing and being hit with up to the maximum.
 
2013-07-23 01:39:38 PM  

nytmare: Seems to be a common attitude among internet drivers that they can blow through a red light as long as they're turning right, or on a bicycle. Which is completely wrong. You have to stop first, turn or no turn, car or bicycle.


It would appear that Mr_Fabulous is saying that he stopped, just not for long enough to satisfy the local constabulary.
 
2013-07-23 01:43:19 PM  
To all those saying "just don't speed", it's not that simple. One thing North American road engineers haven't yet grasped (or have decided to conveniently ignore for the sake of $afety) is that every roadway has a natural momentum that should appropriately dictate the speed.

Driving in most of Europe is functional and stress-less because of this fact. A road that "feels" like an 80 usually has a speed limit of 80, and not 60 so that some bag of dicks can sit there and catch you with his speed gun to justify his paycheck.

This isn't a matter of speed or safety. It's a matter of corrupt politics and the exploitation of our road systems for the sake of revenue. Idiot teenagers and reckless morons aside, most of us are just regular individuals attempting to use the roads as they were meant to be driven.

Those who follow the laws without questions are the most dangerous drivers AND individuals to society, not those who break the laws when they hold no real-world validity.
 
2013-07-23 01:43:43 PM  

namatad: cannotsuggestaname: my very first speeding ticket I ever received was in North Carolina. I had a $1500 fine, 100 hours of community service and I lost my license for a year.

So I guess that means their fines went down in the past 20 years.

wow
so nice of you to give the useless details.
how fast were you going?
what was the posted speed?
was it a construction zone?

can we just assume that you are a tool and left out the details which would make it clear that you are a tool?


you must be new here... I have shared this story more than a couple of times. As for leaving out details to make it clear I was a tool, well what do you think would bring about that type of fine for a first offense? FWIW this was well before there was ever a concept of a "construction zone" that had higher fines.

Here is a run down, and I own up to being an idiot.

17 years old with too fast of a car
First reading was 108 mph in a 55 mph zone
Second reading was 134 mph in a 55 mph zone
careless and reckless
endangering (no one was on the road besides me and the cops)
failure to yield
eluding (I had to make it fun for them)

All of that adds up to 10 points, a big fine and a lost license. There are a lot of other details, but they aren't really pertinent to this conversation. I was just pointing out that I got a ticket 20+ years ago for a first offense that was higher than what this guy was complaining about :)


/the whole story is rather funny (honestly, and not in a CSB way)
//yes I was dumb and lucky that I didn't hurt myself or anyone else
///I don't drive like that any more
 
2013-07-23 01:45:08 PM  

nytmare: a common attitude among internet drivers


I never speed when I'm on the information superhighway...
 
2013-07-23 01:46:11 PM  

R.A.Danny: You won't get pulled over in Illinois unless you're going 15 over unless you're doing something else wrong too.


That may be true in the Chicago area, but Downstate its 10 over, or less if you hit the wrong small town.
 
2013-07-23 01:47:32 PM  
I've lived in Vermont since 1998. Never gotten a speeding ticket.
 
2013-07-23 01:50:24 PM  

Madaynun: R.A.Danny: You won't get pulled over in Illinois unless you're going 15 over unless you're doing something else wrong too.

That may be true in the Chicago area, but Downstate its 10 over, or less if you hit the wrong small town.


That's not Illinois, that's Deliverance :)
 
2013-07-23 01:50:43 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: North Carolina really isn't bad for tickets. They're expensive if you get one but you really have to be flying to have the cops pull you over.


I was assuming NC was something like that, as the NC drivers here in Va. all seem to be trying to beat Han Solo's best time on the Kessel run.
 
2013-07-23 01:50:58 PM  
Worst traffic offense I ever got was one day heading to work.  I gunned it from 0-70 by the time I rounded a corner.  Well when I rounded the corner so was a Georgia State Trooper, who immediately flashed on his lights.  I also had no insurance and my tag was expired.  He let me go with a warning, then hauled ass back to where he was going.

Two things were in my favor:  1)  I worked with his nephew (but didn't know this at the time) and 2)  this same trooper had once dropped off film to be developed, and he was one of the first photo lab customers I'd ever had.  My best conclusion was that I'd done one helluva job on his roll of film!
 
2013-07-23 01:51:34 PM  

cannotsuggestaname: First reading was 108 mph in a 55 mph zone
Second reading was 134 mph in a 55 mph zone
careless and reckless
endangering (no one was on the road besides me and the cops)
failure to yield
eluding (I had to make it fun for them)

All of that adds up to 10 points, a big fine and a lost license... I was just pointing out that I got a ticket 20+ years ago for a first offense that was higher than what this guy was complaining about :)


So...you were going almost three times the speed limit, and you led the cops on a high-speed chase, and you are surprised that the fine was higher than most "first-offenses"? Really? Are you aware that the penalties for armed robbery and murder are also stiffer than most traffic offenses?
 
2013-07-23 01:53:47 PM  

Darke: Carth: $1000 isn't an outrageous amount for a ticket if you're going 20-30mph over in a work/school zone. That shiat is dangerous and wherever you're going can wait an extra 5-10 minutes for you to get there.

Also DC gives out so many tickets/relative to the population, because the DC metro area has a population of nearly 6 million as opposed to the 500k number they give. Not to mention no one in the city knows how to use a roundabout.

That, and people from fifty miles around come in to work in DC. All commuters who've spent at least an hour on the road already.  I'd be in a hurry too.  I do not miss working in the Capitol.


Speed cameras. Speed cameras everywhere.
 
2013-07-23 01:55:07 PM  
My rule: Don't be the fastest guy (and I usually keep the cruise about 9mph over the limit on long trips).  Second rule: if you're the only guy, slow down a bit.  Usually 7 over is pretty safe.  10 or more over and you're gambling saved time against the potential fine.
 
2013-07-23 01:55:08 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Over that 700 mile trip, the difference in travel time between averaging 55 and averaging 60 is just over an hour.


Obviously it adds up on a long trip, but I was talking more about daily commutes.
 
2013-07-23 01:58:44 PM  

blacksharpiemarker: To all those saying "just don't speed", it's not that simple. One thing North American road engineers haven't yet grasped (or have decided to conveniently ignore for the sake of $afety) is that every roadway has a natural momentum that should appropriately dictate the speed.


Don't blame the engineers.  Common practice is that you collect the speed for the normal flow of traffic, and take the 85th percentile and make that the max speed (in simplified terms).  You then use that as a base and figure out the limit (based on environment, lay of the land, etc...)

It's the lawmakers that have the final say however in most places (like through small towns).
 
2013-07-23 01:59:05 PM  
I've been driving in Vermont with Mass plates for more than 15 years, and I've never gotten a ticket. I'm unreasonably pleased about this and proud that I know every cop turnout spot along I-89 in the state.
 
2013-07-23 01:59:47 PM  

Aar1012: I've lived in Massachusetts for most of my life

*stopreadingthere.jpeg*

/Probably kept getting ticketed in Vermont by driving like a Masshole
//Probably complained liked one when the cop pulled him over


Most definitely!  We don't put up with Masshole's very well.  We yell at them A LOT!
If you're nice enough to us we'll tell you where to slow down so you don't a ticket.

We know all the hiding spots.
 
2013-07-23 01:59:59 PM  

cannotsuggestaname: Second reading was 134 mph in a 55 mph zone


They should have thrown you in jail and seized your car.
 
2013-07-23 02:01:21 PM  
Got pulled in NC a while back. The cop handed me a little print out with no info, and told me they'd mail me the ticket. Nothing came, and after more than a year, I moved and forgot about it.

Sometime several years after, I get pulled over in Maryland because my front plate was loose. He runs my license and comes back asking me to get out of the car. He tells me my license is no longer valid and that I need to call someone to come get me. The cop apparently couldn't tell me why my license was no longer valid (no aspersions on him as I'm not sure he even had access to the info).

As it turns out, NC had issued me a ticket, and a 'must appear' date in court, to which I obviously didn't show up. They apparently also put out a warrant for me. Several fines, and many court dates later, things finally got sorted out and I got my license back. Total load of bs. I got screwed because the cop didn't write me a legit ticket in the first place.
 
2013-07-23 02:05:39 PM  
FTFA:  "Granted, speeding in a work zone is bad for everyone concerned, but a few moments of inattention resulting in a $1,000 fine? "

I've noticed cones and barricades going up weeks before any work actually starts and a co-worker got slapped with a doubled fine for speeding in a work zone where there wasn't a worker anywhere in sight.  I think the County has found a new source of revenue.
 
2013-07-23 02:06:37 PM  
Glad I just received a warning when I was pulled over in New Hampshire last week./it was an odd traffic stop for all involved, though
 
2013-07-23 02:11:42 PM  

cannotsuggestaname: namatad: cannotsuggestaname: my very first speeding ticket I ever received was in North Carolina. I had a $1500 fine, 100 hours of community service and I lost my license for a year.

So I guess that means their fines went down in the past 20 years.

wow
so nice of you to give the useless details.
how fast were you going?
what was the posted speed?
was it a construction zone?

can we just assume that you are a tool and left out the details which would make it clear that you are a tool?

you must be new here... I have shared this story more than a couple of times. As for leaving out details to make it clear I was a tool, well what do you think would bring about that type of fine for a first offense? FWIW this was well before there was ever a concept of a "construction zone" that had higher fines.

Here is a run down, and I own up to being an idiot.

17 years old with too fast of a car
First reading was 108 mph in a 55 mph zone
Second reading was 134 mph in a 55 mph zone
careless and reckless
endangering (no one was on the road besides me and the cops)
failure to yield
eluding (I had to make it fun for them)

All of that adds up to 10 points, a big fine and a lost license. There are a lot of other details, but they aren't really pertinent to this conversation. I was just pointing out that I got a ticket 20+ years ago for a first offense that was higher than what this guy was complaining about :)


/the whole story is rather funny (honestly, and not in a CSB way)
//yes I was dumb and lucky that I didn't hurt myself or anyone else
///I don't drive like that any more


so pretty much like every dumb teenage male driver on the planet when given a fast car, even a slow car
/been there, done that
/and yah, the punishment that you got totally fit the crimes ...
 
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