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(Wisconsin Gazette)   Haunting headlines, gruesome crimes as Cleveland tries to reinvent itself   (wisconsingazette.com) divider line 20
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2013-07-23 10:13:36 AM
Oh, that's nasty.
 
2013-07-23 10:16:11 AM
and you know who else had this problem?
 
2013-07-23 10:16:33 AM
They'll be good as long as they don't build Spaghetti Land.
 
2013-07-23 10:16:41 AM
Some fundie jerk draws connections between these atrocities and the city's hosting of the Gay Games in 5. . . 4. . . 3. . .
 
2013-07-23 10:16:50 AM
Let's just hold hands and look back to yesterday's headline

"Happy 217th birthday to the greatest city on Earth. You don't look a day over 202 "

There, feel better?
 
2013-07-23 10:17:15 AM
The Gay Games??? Is "Fudge Packing" one of the events?
 
2013-07-23 10:21:40 AM

SpankMeJohnny: The Gay Games??? Is "Fudge Packing" one of the events?


That's hysterical, SpankMeJohnny.
 
2013-07-23 10:22:51 AM
 
2013-07-23 10:23:02 AM
still better than Detroit
 
2013-07-23 10:32:20 AM
"I do think we have to ask ourselves as a community the larger question: Why here, and what can we do to better understand the conditions that fostered this savage behavior?" said Dennis Eckert,

Some people are just assholes. Most of them don't murder other people, but a few of them do.
 
2013-07-23 10:35:05 AM
I dont understand the gay games either johnny. Why do they exist? is it running, wrestling?? abduction??
 
2013-07-23 10:51:03 AM
Mistrust in the Cleveland goes back a long ways...

The best cop in the land--Elliot Ness--was hired to run the police department. The Cleveland torso killer (Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run) was active for years. Ness knew who the guy was and confronted the killer.

Only problem was the killer was related to a powerful family. He was allowed to commit himself to a mental institution. But he kept checking himself out of the institutions. And kept murdering people. He got away with all of his murders--he might have murdered people in Canada, Pennsylvania and all the way out to California--because he never killed any rich people. The cops let him get away with murder for decades. Probably from the late 1920's to the early 50s. Probably around 40 victims.

Oh and all the physical evidence to the murders has been "lost".

The Kingsbury Run killer is a old excuse for not trusting the cops in Cleveland.
 
2013-07-23 10:51:20 AM
rustwire.com
 
TWX
2013-07-23 10:54:06 AM
Found out that a buddy of mine had lived a block over from where those women had been held captive for so long. He said back when he moved in 30+ years ago it was a nice neighborhood, but started changing quickly and they didn't want to stick around to see how far it would go...
 
2013-07-23 11:29:40 AM
The problem is that they keep releasing these farkholes back into the public after nasty sexual offenses (like child abusse) and then we are all shocked *shocked* when nightmares like this happen.  Laws must be reformed to be harder on offenders and more enforcable by the justice system (whatever is left of it, that is).
 
2013-07-23 12:42:49 PM

keden74: The problem is that they keep releasing these farkholes back into the public after nasty sexual offenses (like child abusse) and then we are all shocked *shocked* when nightmares like this happen.  Laws must be reformed to be harder on offenders and more enforcable by the justice system (whatever is left of it, that is).


Prison should consist of a hole in the ground where the prisoner is dumped, with a metal grate on top. No cable TV, no workout equipment, crappy food, minimal medical care... when/if the prisoner gets released, he is too weak physically & mentally to commit any more crimes. Dare to dream!
 
2013-07-23 02:17:39 PM
FTFA:  Some civic leaders say the explanation lies in the disintegration of neighborhoods and people's connections to one another, plus a general mistrust of police - conditions that make it easier for a predator to kill without others noticing anything or reporting their suspicions.

Cleveland regularly ranks among the poorest big cities in America. Per-capita income is just $17,000 in Cleveland and even lower, at $16,000, in next-door East Cleveland, where the bodies were found Friday and Saturday.  Greater Cleveland lost more jobs than other big city in the U.S. between May 2012 and this past May, at a time when hiring was finally picking up again in many parts of the country.

Last year, Cuyahoga County, home to both Cleveland and East Cleveland, topped the list of foreclosures in Ohio with 11,427, according to Policy Matters Ohio, a Cleveland think tank.A walk down almost any street in East Cleveland brings the crisis home. Boarded-up houses and ramshackle apartment buildings are a common sight.

/glad I finally gave up and left
 
2013-07-23 02:28:09 PM
WTF, Ohio?
 
2013-07-23 02:37:24 PM
This show's storylines would have been VERY different if it was airing nowadays.

www.screeninsults.com
 
2013-07-23 08:06:30 PM
FTA: Law enforcement authorities were accused of fostering an environment that made residents, many of them black, reluctant to call police.

Oh yea? What happens when they call the cops to report suspicious individuals, other than exposing themselves to the dangerous individuals they harbor because they're the same color as them? Do they face any actual danger from the police? The police seem to have responded reasonably well to someone calling to report a "suspicious odor"!
 
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