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2013-07-23 06:51:04 AM
JJ is just mad that they won't allow him to name the villain Darth Kelvin.
 
2013-07-23 07:52:19 AM
as long as it's not Lucas.
 
2013-07-23 09:40:40 AM
Just hire some actual writers and not the same two hacks that Abrams hires for all his projects.
 
2013-07-23 09:41:59 AM
JJ will be off the project the minute he rejects George's note "I was thinking we could insert a CGI character here -- maybe call him Wibbly Wobbler -- and the Jedi could point to a priceless vase on a tall, rickety stand and say 'Now Wibbly, you better make sure you don't knock this vase over!' and while the heated negotiations are going on in the foreground Wibbly could perform all kinds of hilarious slapstick, and, of course, at the end what do you think happens to that vase?"
 
2013-07-23 09:53:25 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: JJ will be off the project the minute he rejects George's note "I was thinking we could insert a CGI character here -- maybe call him Wibbly Wobbler -- and the Jedi could point to a priceless vase on a tall, rickety stand and say 'Now Wibbly, you better make sure you don't knock this vase over!' and while the heated negotiations are going on in the foreground Wibbly could perform all kinds of hilarious slapstick, and, of course, at the end what do you think happens to that vase?"


delete this post!  don't give them any ideas!
 
2013-07-23 10:04:37 AM
I thought Lucas wasn't going to be involved, since it was sold to Disney?  "Lucasfilm" is just a division of Disney, with George Lucas retired.
 
2013-07-23 10:21:05 AM
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2013-07-23 11:03:49 AM
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We'll all meet up in the sequel, Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money Star Wars Episode VII
 
2013-07-23 11:04:10 AM

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 850x478]


Goofy Time?
 
2013-07-23 11:10:20 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: JJ will be off the project the minute he rejects George's note "I was thinking we could insert a CGI character here -- maybe call him Wibbly Wobbler -- and the Jedi could point to a priceless vase on a tall, rickety stand and say 'Now Wibbly, you better make sure you don't knock this vase over!' and while the heated negotiations are going on in the foreground Wibbly could perform all kinds of hilarious slapstick, and, of course, at the end what do you think happens to that vase?"


Wibbly Wobbler isn't anywhere near as bad a character as people make him out to be.  It's just so hip to hate on him right now.
 
2013-07-23 11:12:40 AM
For a moment I thought that mean Lucas was taking over again.

/I have no problem with Abrams
//people whine too much
 
2013-07-23 11:15:50 AM
I like my commas like I like my women...

in their proper place, where I put them!
 
2013-07-23 11:16:28 AM

mattharvest: I thought Lucas wasn't going to be involved, since it was sold to Disney?  "Lucasfilm" is just a division of Disney, with George Lucas retired.


Part of the deal was for Lucas to be onset as an advisor, but without pull
 
2013-07-23 11:16:29 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: JJ will be off the project the minute he rejects George's note "I was thinking we could insert a CGI character here -- maybe call him Wibbly Wobbler -- and the Jedi could point to a priceless vase on a tall, rickety stand and say 'Now Wibbly, you better make sure you don't knock this vase over!' and while the heated negotiations are going on in the foreground Wibbly could perform all kinds of hilarious slapstick, and, of course, at the end what do you think happens to that vase?"


That would absolutely KILL in merchandising.  As long as he had long floppy ears and talked like an Inuit.
 
2013-07-23 11:23:42 AM
I'd love it if they've hand Star Wars off to a director outside the studio system (in the tradition of episodes V and VI) instead of a guy who typifies it.

Part of the reason Empire is such a great sequel is because Irvin Kershner was a real filmmaker who wasn't known for blockbuster formulas. He was able to take the "hero's journey" story of the original and make the characters seem more human. A great, outside-the-box director, paired with incredible art assets, a strong visual effects team and a good script by Lawrence Kasdan (based on Lucas's story) resulted in an incredible sequel.

From Kershner's Wikipedia page:


Kershner is best known as the director of   (1980), the immediate sequel of the 1977 hit film. Kershner was a surprising choice for such a movie; according to him, when he asked producer

"Of all the younger guys around, all the hot-shots, why me?"

Lucas replied, "Well, because you know everything a Hollywood director is supposed to know, but you're not Hollywood."

Kershner, who was an appealing directorial candidate to Lucas because of his focus on character development, was reluctant to direct the film. When asked by Lucas to work on the project over lunch, Kershner refused. Kershner's agent was told about the meeting and encouraged him to take the job. Of his cinematic style, Kershner has said, "I like to fill up the frame with the characters' faces. There's nothing more interesting than the landscape of the human face."


Could you ever imagine a guy like JJ Abrams doing anything like that? Chances are good that if he is quitting, it's over money or a desire to have complete control over the franchise.
 
2013-07-23 11:41:42 AM

bborchar: For a moment I thought that mean Lucas was taking over again.

/I have no problem with Abrams
//people whine too much


Agreed. After the two Star Trek movies, I'm pretty excited to see what he does with Star Wars.
 
2013-07-23 11:49:35 AM
Heads up, SW geeks:

Abrams is going to make Ep 7 into a great movie that everyone will enjoy and not just the geeks who cosplay as third-tier characters who never say a word in the movies, but have trilogies dedicated to them in the Expanded Universe.

It will be a good movie and everyone will love it, except for you.  Now shut up.
 
2013-07-23 11:52:53 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: at the end what do you think happens to that vase?"


It fixes the cable?
 
2013-07-23 12:01:23 PM
Goofy takes over Jabba's crime syndicate.

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2013-07-23 12:16:23 PM

Elvis_Bogart: JJ is just mad that they won't allow him to name the villain Darth Kelvin.


I was wondering how he would work it in...
 
2013-07-23 12:21:37 PM
Thus far JJ has been unable to do anything without traveling through dimensions or time. It'll be interesting to see how the Emperor didn't actually die when thrown into the depths of the Death Star, but used the force to leap through time and now threaten Leia's children, who are actually her kids from another dimension of course.
 
2013-07-23 12:30:11 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: JJ will be off the project the minute he rejects George's note "I was thinking we could insert a CGI character here -- maybe call him Wibbly Wobbler -- and the Jedi could point to a priceless vase on a tall, rickety stand and say 'Now Wibbly, you better make sure you don't knock this vase over!' and while the heated negotiations are going on in the foreground Wibbly could perform all kinds of hilarious slapstick, and, of course, at the end what do you think happens to that vase?"


Jar Jar makes a cameo appearance and knocks the vase off the pedestal?

And then they all hop in the millennium falcon and fly to Hoth, where C3PO is hilariously knocked into pieces by a snow monster!

And then its off to Tatooine, for the triple lens flares.
 
2013-07-23 12:39:06 PM

Infernalist: Abrams is going to make Ep 7 into a great movie that everyone will enjoy and not just the geeks who cosplay


Then why was the last Star Trek movie a virtual remake of What of Khan, literally copy and pasted scenes from it?

Mr. Coffee Nerves: J will be off the project the minute he rejects George's note "I was thinking we could insert a CGI character here --


Yeah, there were no goofy CG characters in JJ's Trek movies.
 
2013-07-23 12:44:26 PM
Abrams last three scifi movies (Super 8 and the two Star Trek movies) had Rotten Tomato ratings of 87, 82, and 95.
 
2013-07-23 01:02:36 PM
If everyone hates George Lucas so much, and considers him to be such a hack, then why do they like Star Wars?

It's like, YOU JUST SAID that the movies suck, and at the same time, you're mad at Lucas for ruining them?

It doesn't make any sense. If you think the movies are bad, then you shouldn't be watching them, and you shouldn't care that they're so bad.

See what I'm saying?
 
2013-07-23 01:27:00 PM

meanmutton: Abrams last three scifi movies (Super 8 and the two Star Trek movies) had Rotten Tomato ratings of 87, 82, and 95.


Rotten Tomato? LOL
 
2013-07-23 01:37:06 PM
Holy shiat Wibbly Wobbler.

farking awesome.
 
2013-07-23 02:02:28 PM

Mugato: meanmutton: Abrams last three scifi movies (Super 8 and the two Star Trek movies) had Rotten Tomato ratings of 87, 82, and 95.

Rotten Tomato? LOL


I think everyone uses Rotten Tomatoes as the standard.

Abrams can tell a story. I think he tends to be a bit generic, which might be the perfect fit for the new Star Wars movies. They aren't exactly high cinema anyway...
 
2013-07-23 02:12:40 PM

chewielouie: bborchar: For a moment I thought that mean Lucas was taking over again.

/I have no problem with Abrams
//people whine too much

Agreed. After the two Star Trek movies, I'm pretty excited to see what he does with Star Wars.


Since he turned Trek into Star Wars, I'm hopeful
 
2013-07-23 02:17:56 PM

doczoidberg: If everyone hates George Lucas so much, and considers him to be such a hack, then why do they like Star Wars?

It's like, YOU JUST SAID that the movies suck, and at the same time, you're mad at Lucas for ruining them?

It doesn't make any sense. If you think the movies are bad, then you shouldn't be watching them, and you shouldn't care that they're so bad.

See what I'm saying?


No.

People love the original Star Wars trilogy and the Lucas that made them. People hate the prequels and the Lucas that Lucas has become.
 
2013-07-23 02:26:30 PM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: Abrams can tell a story.


He can shoot a movie. Aside from the lens flares he can shoot a movie well. He hires shiatty writers. And there's nothing that gives Rotten Tomatoes any credibility,.
 
2013-07-23 02:27:02 PM

chewielouie: original Star Wars trilogy and the Lucas that made them.


Lucas neither wrote nor directed them. He got far, FAR more talented people to direct them. He co-wrote with amazingly talented people.
 
2013-07-23 02:34:34 PM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: Mr. Coffee Nerves: JJ will be off the project the minute he rejects George's note "I was thinking we could insert a CGI character here -- maybe call him Wibbly Wobbler -- and the Jedi could point to a priceless vase on a tall, rickety stand and say 'Now Wibbly, you better make sure you don't knock this vase over!' and while the heated negotiations are going on in the foreground Wibbly could perform all kinds of hilarious slapstick, and, of course, at the end what do you think happens to that vase?"

Wibbly Wobbler isn't anywhere near as bad a character as people make him out to be.  It's just so hip to hate on him right now.


So you're trying to say that his drunken Irish accent was just a coincidence and not a racial stereotype?  Right.
 
2013-07-23 02:36:08 PM

born_yesterday: drunken Irish accent


Isn't saying something is both Irish and drunken more than a bit redundant?
 
2013-07-23 03:00:31 PM

PizzaJedi81: Isn't saying something is both Irish and drunken more than a bit redundant?


Exactly, our default state is drunk. Our blood can fuel ethanol cars.
 
2013-07-23 03:02:15 PM

PizzaJedi81: chewielouie: original Star Wars trilogy and the Lucas that made them.

Lucas neither wrote nor directed them. He got far, FAR more talented people to direct them. He co-wrote with amazingly talented people.


Lucas wrote AND directed Star Wars.
 
2013-07-23 03:44:51 PM

Mugato: OOBE Juan Kenobi: Abrams can tell a story.

He can shoot a movie. Aside from the lens flares he can shoot a movie well. He hires shiatty writers. And there's nothing that gives Rotten Tomatoes any credibility,.


Oh, FFS, he's done a fine job with virtually every movie he's directed and TV show he's produced.  He's on the upper end of the quality spectrum.  If it was Ewe Boll there would be reason to complain.
 
2013-07-23 03:48:53 PM

Mugato: OOBE Juan Kenobi: Abrams can tell a story.

He can shoot a movie. Aside from the lens flares he can shoot a movie well. He hires shiatty writers. And there's nothing that gives Rotten Tomatoes any credibility,.


Yet if those scores were all shiate you'd be saying how that proved your point. Gotta love the internet.
 
2013-07-23 03:56:16 PM
I know...

... let's just get JJ off the project and bring in Uwe Boll to really liven things up.  That will be much better, right?
 
2013-07-23 04:22:47 PM

vrax: Mugato: OOBE Juan Kenobi: Abrams can tell a story.

He can shoot a movie. Aside from the lens flares he can shoot a movie well. He hires shiatty writers. And there's nothing that gives Rotten Tomatoes any credibility,.

Oh, FFS, he's done a fine job with virtually every movie he's directed and TV show he's produced.  He's on the upper end of the quality spectrum.  If it was Ewe Boll there would be reason to complain.


Come on, his two Star Trek movies had shiat writing. Admittedly,most of the TNG Trek movies also had shiatty writing but these guys get millions of dollars to write these things, how hard is it to write a decent screenplay?
 
2013-07-23 04:46:33 PM

Mugato: Come on, his two Star Trek movies had shiat writing. Admittedly,most of the TNG Trek movies also had shiatty writing but these guys get millions of dollars to write these things, how hard is it to write a decent screenplay?


Given the last 80 years of movie making, apparently pretty damn hard.
 
2013-07-23 04:49:24 PM

SirTanon: I know...

... let's just get JJ off the project and bring in Uwe Boll to really liven things up.  That will be much better, right?


That raises an interesting question.  Could a Uwe Boll Star Wars film actually be any worse than The Phantom Menace?
 
2013-07-23 04:52:33 PM

Mugato: vrax: Mugato: OOBE Juan Kenobi: Abrams can tell a story.

He can shoot a movie. Aside from the lens flares he can shoot a movie well. He hires shiatty writers. And there's nothing that gives Rotten Tomatoes any credibility,.

Oh, FFS, he's done a fine job with virtually every movie he's directed and TV show he's produced.  He's on the upper end of the quality spectrum.  If it was Ewe Boll there would be reason to complain.

Come on, his two Star Trek movies had shiat writing. Admittedly,most of the TNG Trek movies also had shiatty writing but these guys get millions of dollars to write these things, how hard is it to write a decent screenplay?


Haven't seen the 2nd Trek, but the first one had a completely coherent story line.  Some people may not have liked the timeline stuff, but that doesn't speak to the quality of the story.
 
2013-07-23 05:01:39 PM

vrax: Some people may not have liked the timeline stuff, but that doesn't speak to the quality of the story.


Ask yourself if you would rather have Generations and Nemesis for the next several movies.

Didn't think so.
 
2013-07-23 05:18:56 PM

bborchar: For a moment I thought that mean Lucas was taking over again.

/I have no problem with Abrams
//people whine too much


This.

I liked the two new Star Trek movies, but I think JJ is better suited to Star Wars. The less Lucas is involved, the more I'll be excited about new Star Wars. Lucas just needs to stay at home rubbing his ungodly fortune against his wattle and stay the fark away from movies from now on.

Trust me... I sat through Red Tails.
/shudder
 
2013-07-23 05:28:43 PM

vrax: Haven't seen the 2nd Trek, but the first one had a completely coherent story line.  Some people may not have liked the timeline stuff, but that doesn't speak to the quality of the story


Spock gets pissed off and fires Kirk on to Hoth where he just runs into Old Spock and they walk a mile and run into a couple ice monsters and then find Scotty. And there's yet another crazy villain who is out for revenge.
 
2013-07-23 06:38:23 PM

Mugato: vrax: Haven't seen the 2nd Trek, but the first one had a completely coherent story line.  Some people may not have liked the timeline stuff, but that doesn't speak to the quality of the story

Spock gets pissed off and fires Kirk on to Hoth where he just runs into Old Spock and they walk a mile and run into a couple ice monsters and then find Scotty. And there's yet another crazy villain who is out for revenge.


And?!  I'm confused.  Kirk meeting Old Spock is bad, but Kirk meeting Evil Spock is good?   I mean, I've only been watching since the 70's, but Isn't Trek's history chock full o' crazy villains out to get them for a plethora of reasons?
 
2013-07-23 07:12:25 PM

vrax: Mugato: vrax: Haven't seen the 2nd Trek, but the first one had a completely coherent story line.  Some people may not have liked the timeline stuff, but that doesn't speak to the quality of the story

Spock gets pissed off and fires Kirk on to Hoth where he just runs into Old Spock and they walk a mile and run into a couple ice monsters and then find Scotty. And there's yet another crazy villain who is out for revenge.

And?!  I'm confused.  Kirk meeting Old Spock is bad, but Kirk meeting Evil Spock is good?   I mean, I've only been watching since the 70's, but Isn't Trek's history chock full o' crazy villains out to get them for a plethora of reasons?


The first movie is filled with plot elements that don't hold up to scrutiny, such as Scotty becoming chief engineer almost as soon as Kirk re-assumed command of the Enterprise.  That being said, the movie holds together well enough that (at least in my experience) nothing stands out as particularly odd until you watch it a second time and/or someone points them out to you.
 
2013-07-23 07:41:18 PM

anfrind: The first movie is filled with plot elements that don't hold up to scrutiny, such as Scotty becoming chief engineer almost as soon as Kirk re-assumed command of the Enterprise.  That being said, the movie holds together well enough that (at least in my experience) nothing stands out as particularly odd until you watch it a second time and/or someone points them out to you.


Well the Federation just happens upon Khan, who is now a foppish British guy and his people are stored in torpedoes and he magical blood that has the same blood type of not not only Kirk but a tribble. And they had to copy and paste scenes from Wrath of Khan to the point of nausea. .
 
2013-07-23 07:48:34 PM

Mugato: anfrind: The first movie is filled with plot elements that don't hold up to scrutiny, such as Scotty becoming chief engineer almost as soon as Kirk re-assumed command of the Enterprise.  That being said, the movie holds together well enough that (at least in my experience) nothing stands out as particularly odd until you watch it a second time and/or someone points them out to you.

Well the Federation just happens upon Khan, who is now a foppish British guy and his people are stored in torpedoes and he magical blood that has the same blood type of not not only Kirk but a tribble. And they had to copy and paste scenes from Wrath of Khan to the point of nausea. .


Sounds like I need to see this!
 
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