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2013-07-23 10:44:20 AM
At least it doesn't look like he timed it like Jim Edmonds used to do.
 
2013-07-23 10:55:18 AM
Willy Mays bows to no man.
 
2013-07-23 10:56:16 AM
That's a very good catch, but that's no Willie Mays catch. When another player makes a catch so amazing and memorable that it gets its own farking Wikipedia entry, then you may make a comparison.
 
2013-07-23 11:22:32 AM
450 > 380
 
2013-07-23 11:23:37 AM

BKITU: That's a very good catch, but that's no Willie Mays catch. When another player makes a catch so amazing and memorable that it gets its own farking Wikipedia entry, then you may make a comparison.


Willie had a little luck being immortalized since TV was just getting huge, great catch but old timers will tell you a lot of catches like this were made just no on film.

Still no green for Jason heywards catch last night to crush the mets hopes to end the game, that was the most meaningful catch of the night.
 
2013-07-23 11:24:28 AM
Wasn't Mays 430 feet from home plate when he made the catch?

Call me when this pipsqueak hits 660 home runs.
 
2013-07-23 11:27:02 AM
Meh.

That catch was good, but it's not exactly gonna go down in history books as one of the greatest catches of all time. I'm not sure it's even gonna make the list of  the ten greatest catches of the week.

/it wasn't even close to the warning track
//if he didn't make that catch, it would have been a double at most
 
2013-07-23 11:32:37 AM

steamingpile: Still no green for Jason heywards catch last night to crush the mets hopes to end the game, that was the most meaningful catch of the night.


This.
That was a hit any way you look at it. No way Heyward makes that catch.
Can't believe the ground he covered to close on that ball.
 
2013-07-23 11:33:34 AM

steamingpile: a lot of catches like this were made just no on film.


My god, you even type in a scottish accent.

Yeah, that was no over-the-head, no-lookback catch.
 
2013-07-23 11:40:55 AM
That's no Revere...
 
2013-07-23 11:41:31 AM
CSB...

I was having lunch at a burger joint in SF and noticed Willie was a few tables over. Then I noticed the table of four in between myself and Willie were all pulling floss from their pockets/purses. I'm all for dental hygiene but good god man, do not floss at the table! Apparently Mr Mays felt the same way. He waved the manager over and had the floss freaks kicked out.
 
2013-07-23 11:43:18 AM
...appears quite able....
 
2013-07-23 11:46:21 AM
It wasn't the catch, it was the throw.
 
2013-07-23 11:51:24 AM
Good thing he made that catch and prevented KC from being blown out by the Orioles.
 
2013-07-23 12:06:29 PM

MagicBus: Good thing he made that catch and prevented KC from being blown out by the Orioles.


Yeah, kept it to 9-2 instead of 12-2...
 
2013-07-23 12:07:55 PM
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/hot
 
2013-07-23 12:18:00 PM

beerrun: steamingpile: Still no green for Jason heywards catch last night to crush the mets hopes to end the game, that was the most meaningful catch of the night.

This.
That was a hit any way you look at it. No way Heyward makes that catch.
Can't believe the ground he covered to close on that ball.


Amen, brother
 
2013-07-23 12:18:21 PM
I see the ridiculousness of comparing this catch to Willie's has been covered.

Walk proud Willie! Walk proud!
 
2013-07-23 12:25:56 PM
My dad was a cop in the Bay Area in the mid 60's/early 70's. He LOVES to tell the story of pulling over a drunk Willie Mays, then escorting him home. My dad was (is), after all, a Giants fan FIRST and cop second.
 
2013-07-23 12:29:22 PM

bulldg4life: Wasn't Mays 430 feet from home plate when he made the catch?


Yeah and he was turned around, unlike this noob who can still see the ball.
 
2013-07-23 12:39:19 PM

BKITU: That's a very good catch, but that's no Willie Mays catch. When another player makes a catch so amazing and memorable that it gets its own farking Wikipedia entry, then you may make a comparison.


Wellon Dowd: 450 > 380


We are done here.
 
2013-07-23 01:05:30 PM
Heyward's amazing catch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9imMPztWc40

He's just starting his dive and you still think he's not going to catch it.
 
2013-07-23 01:06:08 PM
too often overlooked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYA61SGGjbw">https://www.youtube.com /watch?v=GYA61SGGjbw

Vin Scully agrees:
"I saw Mays' catch," Scully said. "And this one, to me, was better."
 
2013-07-23 01:13:39 PM

Wellon Dowd: 450 > 380


Exactly.

www.thisgreatgame.com

www.andrewclem.com

There will never be another catch like Willie Mays because there will never be a ballpark like the Polo Grounds.
 
2013-07-23 02:40:42 PM
Mays not only caught the ball, he threw it back to the infield and saved a run.

He didn't fall on his face, lie there, get up slowly, proud of making half a play.
 
2013-07-23 03:18:57 PM

rikdanger: Willy Mays bows to no man.


This. Mays is the greatest CF I've seen in my 55+ years of watching baseball. Better than Mantle before the injuries, better than Paul Blair; better than Amos Otis; better than Junior Griffey; better than Edmonds; and yes children, even better than Mike Trout.
 
2013-07-23 03:19:49 PM

beerrun: Heyward's amazing catch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9imMPztWc40

He's just starting his dive and you still think he's not going to catch it.


I think Heyward's is better, but Allan Craig pulled one back over the wall to save a Cards' win last Sunday, too. More impressive because he doesn't even play left field, really. He's spent most of the year at first, taking a few games out in right to give Beltran a day off. He's only out there because Holliday is on the DL.
 
2013-07-23 03:20:04 PM
He may run likes Mays but he hits like shiat.
 
2013-07-23 03:23:11 PM

bulldg4life: Wasn't Mays 430 feet from home plate when he made the catch?

Call me when this pipsqueak hits 660 home runs.


And you can call me when Mays has to try and hit pedro martinez in his prime.
 
2013-07-23 03:52:20 PM

KFBR392: bulldg4life: Wasn't Mays 430 feet from home plate when he made the catch?

Call me when this pipsqueak hits 660 home runs.

And you can call me when Mays has to try and hit pedro martinez in his prime.


Because facing Don Newcombe, Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale and Bob Gibson in their primes isn't worth mentioning? Are you high?
 
2013-07-23 03:52:48 PM

beerrun: Heyward's amazing catch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9imMPztWc40

He's just starting his dive and you still think he's not going to catch it.


ESPN said he covered something like 96 feet to make that catch. It looks like a magic trick.
 
2013-07-23 04:03:19 PM

KFBR392: And you can call me when Mays has to try and hit pedro martinez in his prime.


Here is a rough comparison.
 
2013-07-23 04:09:38 PM

BKITU: KFBR392: bulldg4life: Wasn't Mays 430 feet from home plate when he made the catch?

Call me when this pipsqueak hits 660 home runs.

And you can call me when Mays has to try and hit pedro martinez in his prime.

Because facing Don Newcombe, Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale and Bob Gibson in their primes isn't worth mentioning? Are you high?


KFBR392: bulldg4life: Wasn't Mays 430 feet from home plate when he made the catch?

Call me when this pipsqueak hits 660 home runs.

And you can call me when Mays has to try and hit pedro martinez in his prime.


Call me when they have to change the configuration of the field because today's pitcher are too dominant.

I'm not even a fan of that era but I know the pitchers listed above plus Warren Spahn, Juan Marichal, Whitey Ford, Denny McClain and Vida Blue all laugh at your assertion.
 
2013-07-23 04:44:17 PM

mediablitz: beerrun: Heyward's amazing catch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9imMPztWc40

He's just starting his dive and you still think he's not going to catch it.

ESPN said he covered something like 96 feet to make that catch. It looks like a magic trick.


I try to catch MLB Tonight's prime plays regularly, and there are plenty of amazing plays being made every day, but I still shake my head
in disbelief when I re-watch that catch.
 
2013-07-23 05:03:03 PM

steamingpile: BKITU: That's a very good catch, but that's no Willie Mays catch. When another player makes a catch so amazing and memorable that it gets its own farking Wikipedia entry, then you may make a comparison.

Willie had a little luck being immortalized since TV was just getting huge, great catch but old timers will tell you a lot of catches like this were made just no on film.

Still no green for Jason heywards catch last night to crush the mets hopes to end the game, that was the most meaningful catch of the night.


Man, Willie Mays must have wished he could have made a game saving catch against a sub-500 team rather than in the World Series. Best game saving catch I've ever seen in a July game ever! EVER!
 
2013-07-23 05:07:52 PM

domdare: steamingpile: BKITU: That's a very good catch, but that's no Willie Mays catch. When another player makes a catch so amazing and memorable that it gets its own farking Wikipedia entry, then you may make a comparison.

Willie had a little luck being immortalized since TV was just getting huge, great catch but old timers will tell you a lot of catches like this were made just no on film.

Still no green for Jason heywards catch last night to crush the mets hopes to end the game, that was the most meaningful catch of the night.

Man, Willie Mays must have wished he could have made a game saving catch against a sub-500 team rather than in the World Series. Best game saving catch I've ever seen in a July game ever! EVER!


I believe he was saying that Heyward's catch was better than the greenlit catch by Lorenzo Cain and  that it should have been greened instead.
No one is questioning the greatness of Mays' catch.
 
2013-07-23 05:59:16 PM

a4dzac: That's no Revere...


That catch was crazy, but not even Revere's best catch IMO.  This one had a much higher degree of difficulty (at the wall, over his shoulder).


/Witnessed catch in person
//CSB
 
2013-07-23 07:15:01 PM

danzak: too often overlooked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYA61SGGjbw">https://www.youtube.com /watch?v=GYA61SGGjbw

Vin Scully agrees:
"I saw Mays' catch," Scully said. "And this one, to me, was better."


Favorite catch this year: Aaron Hicks robs Carlos Gomez of a home run.  I love that the game has changed in a way that lets glove-first CFs like Hicks, Revere, and Lorenzo Cain be starters.

Favorite catch I've seen (on TV): Endy Chavez, Turning a double play during Game 7 of the 2006 NLCS.  At the moment he pulled that ball back from two feet over the wall, it looked like he delivered a spot in the World Series to the Mets.  (Then they Metsed it up.)

The Mays catch is hard to compare because the park was so ridiculous.  Both of the above require amazing timing and leaping abilities.  The Mays catch was a dead sprint over a huge distance.  Impressive in their own ways.
 
2013-07-23 07:17:24 PM

m1ke: He may run likes Mays but he hits like shiat.


We got to see about a decade of baseball with a bunch of CFs who were 30-HR goons who could sort of play defense.  It wasn't very exciting.
 
2013-07-23 07:21:54 PM

KFBR392: And you can call me when Mays has to try and hit pedro martinez in his prime.


Dude. Just stop.
 
2013-07-23 07:49:40 PM
Willy Mays bows to no man.

This. Mays is the greatest CF I've seen in my 55+ years of watching baseball. Better than Mantle before the injuries, better than Paul Blair; better than Amos Otis; better than Junior Griffey; better than Edmonds; and yes children, even better than Mike Trout.


so much effing this, Mays could do it all, except pitch
 
2013-07-23 09:00:24 PM

BKITU: KFBR392: bulldg4life: Wasn't Mays 430 feet from home plate when he made the catch?

Call me when this pipsqueak hits 660 home runs.

And you can call me when Mays has to try and hit pedro martinez in his prime.

Because facing Don Newcombe, Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale and Bob Gibson in their primes isn't worth mentioning? Are you high?


Not pictured: Newcombe, Drysdale and Gibson (not so much Koufax) buzzing one past your ear on the first pitch, just to let you know who's boss..
 
2013-07-23 09:17:57 PM

Hoopy Frood: Not pictured: Newcombe, Drysdale and Gibson (not so much Koufax) buzzing one past your ear on the first pitch, just to let you know who's boss..


1968 NL: 1 HBP every 42 IP
2012 NL: 1 HBP every 30 IP.

Pitchers hit batters at a historically high rate these days, at least if you ignore the dead-ball era.  Back then, it was much more rare.

And Gibson has a reputation for hitting guys with abandon, but he never led the NL, and never hit more than 13 in a season.  Ian Kennedy hit 14 last season, and he's in a five-man rotation with relievers than come in in the 7th more often than not.
 
2013-07-23 10:00:02 PM
This is about as close to Willie Mays catch as I've seen in a long time.

About 430 feet away, basket style catch, going up a hill, facing the fence. Granted, it didn't really have a big effect on the game, and the two teams suck, but the pure athleticism and ability to do this is absolutely incredible.

Carlos Gomez on Tal's Hill in Houston this year.
 
2013-07-23 10:49:46 PM
Still more impressive.

www.ejumpcut.org
/movie blooper on the left there, someone forgot to cover up the Twins sign (next cut was a Indians graphic, indicating that the catch happened in Cleveland).
 
2013-07-24 12:28:25 AM

chimp_ninja: Hoopy Frood: Not pictured: Newcombe, Drysdale and Gibson (not so much Koufax) buzzing one past your ear on the first pitch, just to let you know who's boss..

1968 NL: 1 HBP every 42 IP
2012 NL: 1 HBP every 30 IP.

Pitchers hit batters at a historically high rate these days, at least if you ignore the dead-ball era.  Back then, it was much more rare.

And Gibson has a reputation for hitting guys with abandon, but he never led the NL, and never hit more than 13 in a season.  Ian Kennedy hit 14 last season, and he's in a five-man rotation with relievers than come in in the 7th more often than not.


If you hit 'em, it's a free base. If you almost hit 'em, you got three freebies per batter. Most of the time, those guys were making a point instead of trying to drill somebody, because they still wanted to win. I wish I could remember who I was reading about the other day, it might have been Grover Alexander, but there was a rough play involving an opposing player-manager and the pitcher said everyone in the lineup was going down twice. And not until all nine had been knocked down twice - none were hit - did the umpire say, "you made your point, now knock it off."

There's also a matter of control. There are nearly twice as many teams now as before expansion and more pitchers per roster, so half of these guys wouldn't have had major-league stuff back when brushbacks were part of the game. If you don't have good stuff, you hit guys you're not trying to hit, and you give up runs and lose ballgames.
 
2013-07-24 07:35:38 AM

mediablitz: I see the ridiculousness of comparing this catch to Willie's has been covered.


True but I didn't see any comments about how after Mays made the catch he was able to stop, turn and throw the ball preventing the runners from advancing.
 
2013-07-24 08:35:18 AM

Muta: mediablitz: I see the ridiculousness of comparing this catch to Willie's has been covered.

True but I didn't see any comments about how after Mays made the catch he was able to stop, turn and throw the ball preventing the runners from advancing.


Then you weren't reading very closely.

PluckYew: Mays not only caught the ball, he threw it back to the infield and saved a run.

He didn't fall on his face, lie there, get up slowly, proud of making half a play.

 
2013-07-24 11:51:11 AM

PluckYew: Mays not only caught the ball, he threw it back to the infield and saved a run.

He didn't fall on his face, lie there, get up slowly, proud of making half a play.


Not invalidating your core point, but I suspect part of the reason Cain didn't leap to his feet and fire the ball back to his cutoff man was the fact that there were two outs before the play.
 
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