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2013-07-23 12:57:51 PM  

Shryke: I claimed Sweden is over 90% privately held, and thus capitalist. You then somehow insisted this is not equivalent to "a feudal capitalist state of unbridled avarice".  What else would I call it? A heap of artistic license on your part?


Think of it as trying to wax hyperbolic and somewhat politely humorous while saying "bullsh*t" about false dichotomies and inaccurate definitions.

Shryke: Would you be impressed if I also changed the definitions of common terms to suit my whim?


I didn't put that drum down.  The shell is cracked.  Yo asserted something that is wholesale malarkey but fits your prefab idealogue.  You do that a lot.  No, still not impressed.

Shryke: If you are free to offer opinions as the causes of black troubles, I am free to rebut them.


But not free to assign them to me as per your highly filtered definitions of what I am and am not saying.  That's a straw man.
 
2013-07-23 12:58:58 PM  

BEER_ME_in_CT: Oh Boy, someone is sitting in one of those nondescript warehouse style buildings feeding bile to message boards for a profit. My guess? The benefactor is the Hillary '16 campaign lol!


You really do drink a lot of beer, don't ya?
 
2013-07-23 01:00:37 PM  

bunner: I didn't.  Put that drum down.  The shell is cracked.  FI.

 
2013-07-23 01:07:30 PM  
man ..there are a lot of really uninformed/misinformed people in this thread.

I'm not sure why I would have expected different.

The problem is the disintegration of black families? Hmm I wonder what could cause that?

> Lack of jobs/opportunity/education that has created an underground economy for which there are strict mandatory sentences of decades?
> After serving their time, strips the right to vote from entire generations of fathers? (I really hate that one)
> Forces them to not be able to live with their family again due to low income housing laws? (Thanks Clinton!)
> Prisons making a greater profit for having every bed filled and influence laws to create higher demand? (private prisons should be against the law)
> City cops being enticed to arrest as many non violent offenders as possible? (I can explain this if you would like, but it might take a paragraph)

none of that has to do with babies....

The situation is actually somewhat more complex than "stop having babies!". I hate this kind of oversimplification.
 
2013-07-23 01:09:20 PM  
I thought he hit the nail in the head on this one. Let's take a step back and look at this from a different point of view. Oprah is black and is worth about a 1 billion dollars. Jay Z is black and worth close to 90 Million. Puff Daddy " Sean Combs" is black and is worth millions of dollars. So to say its to due to poverty, lack of an education, or any other excuse you can come up is insane. You can read stories about black people coming out of the ghetto and doing good. My mom raised three kids by her self with no help from welfare, the government or any other form of government service. She did it with hard work and determination to make us succeed in life.  If parents were like that today there would be no gangs, violence or number of black people in prison. Let me guess she succeed cause she white? Wrong she succeed because she wanted to. Oprah Succeeded because she worked long hours, she put fourth the effort to become the person she is today. What this country has come to is a handouts, people want everything handed to them on a silver patter. Most gangs are started up by black people or by another race who is trying to defend it self. They were not formed by white people and then handle over to the other race. Drugs are a factored in every neighborhood, the more drugs the more violence.  There really is no incentive to go to school anymore, when they can just sell drugs and make money, own nice cars and a player. So now they have the drugs, money and whats next females, these young ladies see these man as rebels and they are attracted to it, this is true in all races. So now you have the high pregnancy rate, what is other options going to do for that lady. She has abortion, how much did that cost the tax payer? Why cant the answer be "I wait till marriage before i make a life altering decision like having sex"? This country has portrayed sex as a need, you see it in tons of movie. I say we educate the black community, tell them Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are actually hurting them. They have never done one bit of good.
 
2013-07-23 01:09:28 PM  

bunner: false dichotomies and inaccurate definitions.


Damn those definitions and their silly rules!  More the the point: how can you expect anyone to deal with you rationally, when you reject definitions straight from a dictionary? This is the intellectual equivalent of insisting God told you so, therefore it is true. I am going to guess you normally sneer at such arguments.
 
2013-07-23 01:10:17 PM  

Perlin Noise: The situation is actually somewhat more complex than "stop having babies!". I hate this kind of oversimplification.


It's also a lot more complex that saying "whut evah, we're victims".  But that's also painfully obvious.  And I assert this upon nothing more than the results extant.  Either everybody picks up a mop or we just keep walking around that mess on the floor.
 
2013-07-23 01:15:31 PM  

Shryke: This is the intellectual equivalent of insisting God told you so, therefore it is true


Of course it is dear.  Hyperbole?  Look, you're gonna a need a different leg to rub up against cause this projection screen is gonna bail on you.

Shryke: I am going to guess you normally sneer at such arguments.


Yeah, I'd expect nothing less than that more profoundly asserted assumptions.  Convenience abounds.  Oh, and that's easy.  Because dictionary definitions disregard a very important aspect of dealing with the world.  Nothing is etched in stone but the marble they park you under.  Malleable constructs.  How do they work.  Have fun shtromin da pedant olympics..
 
2013-07-23 01:15:37 PM  
 
2013-07-23 01:16:41 PM  
rhodges26:  I thought he hit the nail in the head on this one

Your wall of ignorance is quite impressive... *golf clap*

Almost every single sentence had flaws ...good job on that one. And no, I am not interested in arguing about them.
 
2013-07-23 01:18:35 PM  
By the way, "Ha!  See?  I drove him away!  I win!" doesn't really count when you do it with insufferably self accurate pedantry, false assertions and a priggish posing as definitive rectitude.  Teh winzor!  User application error,  How does it work?
 
2013-07-23 01:20:54 PM  
The problem with the "hard facts" is that it's all presented in a contextless fashion and we're asked to pretend it's somehow a valid statement on Blacks in America.

Good, you found statistics, and took the easiest and least thoughtful "lesson" from it.
 
2013-07-23 01:23:11 PM  
If you enter a debate with the intention of winning, you have understood the concept.  There's judges and stuff.  If you engage in discourse with the intention of winning, you probably put sh*t on your Florsheims and put shoe polish on your roses.
 
2013-07-23 01:29:52 PM  
Whats up with Bill voice and speech pattern? Haven't heard him speaking in probably close to 7-8 years and that's a pretty drastic change vocally.
 
2013-07-23 01:32:17 PM  

SearchN: Whats up with Bill voice and speech pattern? Haven't heard him speaking in probably close to 7-8 years and that's a pretty drastic change vocally.


Cranky people who talk for a living also get old.
 
2013-07-23 01:36:05 PM  

bunner: SearchN: Whats up with Bill voice and speech pattern? Haven't heard him speaking in probably close to 7-8 years and that's a pretty drastic change vocally.

Cranky people who talk for a living also get old.


Yea, I know. Just sounds like something is medically wrong with the guy from what he used to sound like.
 
2013-07-23 01:43:45 PM  
Nicely done, Bill.

There *is* a black American holocaust going on in American cities, and we're not allowed to do ANYTHING about it except throw more money at it, because to criticize dysfunctional black culture is the height of racism, according to the chattering classes.

George Will once pointed out that if you subsidize something, you tend to get more of it. We are currently subsidizing the production of single mother families. Stop it.
 
2013-07-23 01:50:54 PM  
I skipped to the bottom to drop a little knowledge from someone who actually works in the 'inner city' with 'black people.'

1) Race and poverty are not intertwined. However - poverty falls more disparately on the black community for a myriad of reasons that I will quickly list, slightly expand on, and then move on.
1a) Slavery - In the United States we had a cultural and legal institution that said black people are not worth as much as white people. Anyway you slice it, there are still people that believe this to be true.
1b) Poverty - Many blacks congregated in major metropolitan areas because it was easier to find jobs. Jobs and housing tend be of lower quality due to high demand. If 5 people want to live in an apt, 1 of them is willing to overlook just how shiatty it is. If 5 people want a job, 1 of them is willing to work minimum wage for more hours, just to keep food on the table.
1c) Education - The education system has often favored certain prime areas for better teachers. These positions tend to be lower stress and outside of the more difficult urban communities. Thus good teachers leave rough schools faster than anywhere else.
1d) Crime - both the criminal and the victim suffer certain issues. The criminal finds that crime leads to financial wealth faster and more easily than education/minimum wage jobs. The victim, if financially able, leaves the crime-ridden area as soon as possible, depleting many good citizens who could otherwise stabilize an area.

2) Generational - These factors have been building over decades and decades. Otherwise healthy families in the 1930's and 40's have watched society as a whole stand aside while they were consistently beaten down and ignored. While Civil Rights when a long way to allowing for some measurable equality, when you fought the fight and still see inequality all around you, it's tough to buy into the system.
2a) Young black men - People find ways to fit in. In communities where education is poor, community organizations are nil (think about the rec leagues and karate studios, and whatever else you may have had access to as a kid), and families feel devalued, young black men often turn towards less socially acceptable groups who engage in crime and other negative behavior as an attempt to connect to people around them. Gangs are the perfect example of this.
2b) Extended Family - I see more young black kids being raised by grandparents these days. Grandfathers tend to be far more in the picture than biological fathers. This goes back to the YBM's need to find a place to fit in and a way to earn status which often leads them into avenues that are contrary to the needs of a family.

3) Prison - Children struggling with reading by grade 3 are significantly more likely to end up in prison than students who are at or above grade level. The poor educational system, along with undervalued emphasis put on attaining an education leaves many young black children (particularly boys) to give up entirely. Leaving them to be statistics in the prison system.
3a) Mandatory sentencing - In the 80's and 90's, mandatory sentencing put a lot of people into prison for otherwise menial offenses. Having a certain amount of crack on you lead to a certain length of prison term, while significantly greater amounts of cocaine carried much lower stays. As crack was far more prevalent in the cities, where black people made up a larger percentage of the population, many of them ended up in prison in a very skewed rate. This lead to back 2b.
3b) Recidivism and Cyclicality - Getting out of prison put many people back in the same social structure that did not support positive decision making in the first place. Having a criminal record left your job prospects scarce and committing more crime was a faster track to getting financial stability. Furthermore, for YBM, when the men in your life are all going to prison, it seems the logical prospect for your life, and leaves you feeling life no matter how hard you work, it won't make a difference, so why bother? (I've heard a number of teens express this sentiment).

4) Other ethnicities/cultures - I often hear the 'well yea, but everyone deals with poverty, and they do just fine' argument by people who think numbers tell the whole story. Black people in the United States, who have just moved here or are at most one generation removed from their arrival tend to do significantly better. Their work ethic is still greatly impacted by the society from which they emigrated. The same tends to be true for asians and hispanics. The issue here is that all of the above factors have given black people, whose families have been in the states for multiple generations, a much poorer self image and belief in their own ability to succeed.


Let's stop saying the issue is 'their black.' It's so much deeper and more ingrained than that. I'll have a conversation about race with anyone who wants to talk. And I'll tell you why you're wrong.


Also - on the whole topic of babies and birth control - realize that black culture is pervaded by very conservative Christian theology and that conversations about BC and sex don't happen much in the home, and thanks to educational changes, don't happen much at school either.

Teens every where are stupid when it comes to sex.
 
2013-07-23 01:54:24 PM  

INeedAName: I'll have a conversation about race with anyone who wants to talk. And I'll tell you why you're wrong.


I think you've already started and ended it without anybody else necessarily participating.
 
2013-07-23 02:02:53 PM  

INeedAName: I skipped to the bottom to drop a little knowledge from someone who actually works in the 'inner city' with 'black people.'


Great post, would read again! +1
You make me feel like I am not surrounded by dullards.

Also, I could not agree more with out about race ...it is the reason I did not mention it in my short list posted above.
 
2013-07-23 02:05:51 PM  

mark12A: George Will once pointed out that if you subsidize something, you tend to get more of it. We are currently subsidizing the production of single mother families. Stop it.


How does this info jive with your derping point?
www.cdc.gov
 
2013-07-23 02:10:35 PM  

mark12A: There *is* a black American holocaust going on in American cities, and we're not allowed to do ANYTHING about it except throw more money at it


3 out of 10 black American men will be imprisoned at some point in their lives, thanks to government policy and socioeconomic factors.

That's what I call a holocaust.
 
2013-07-23 02:13:54 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: mark12A: There *is* a black American holocaust going on in American cities, and we're not allowed to do ANYTHING about it except throw more money at it

3 out of 10 black American men will be imprisoned at some point in their lives, thanks to government policy and socioeconomic factors.

That's what I call a holocaust.


I don't want to sound all like, harrumph and sh*t, but do any of these numbers have anything to do with actual criminal activity?  Cause I'm pretty sure it's still a contributing factor to incarceration.
 
2013-07-23 02:18:31 PM  
Here's a thought.  If I can tell you who god is, what money is and what honest work is, I own your sweaty ass and I never have to forge a single chain, regardless of your color.  Here's another.  If I can tell you what truth is as a child, I can treat you like that child forever.
 
2013-07-23 02:44:52 PM  

Coolfusis: I like how people always frame it as "problems in the black community," as though it were somehow exclusive to black people. They point out that the statistics, but ignore the other side of those statistics - it literally states that all other races suffer from the same problems to some degree. Clearly, then, there must be some other source of the problems.

Gee, I wonder what other things could breed crime, poor education, and large families born from unexpected pregnancies.


If you can't figure out why "liberals" think you're a racist for focusing only on the black community while quoting statistics that show that all races have the same issues in low-income areas, then you're probably just farking stupid. And racist.

Now, we can have a conversation on the effects of generational poverty, but that would bring out the "welfare" hounds.


See.. thats where you are wrong.  If you live in a big city, lets use your as an example.  The poor white trash section of your town, I guarantee you, doesn't have the crime problems as the poor black section of your city.  Sure.  There IS white crime, but it can't even be seen when you stand it next to the black crime.

Watch your news.  Don't take my word for it.  It is easily seen in every major city in the entire U.S.

So, to reiterate.  It's NOT an economic problem.  It's a culture problem.
 
2013-07-23 02:54:43 PM  

master_dman: Coolfusis: I like how people always frame it as "problems in the black community," as though it were somehow exclusive to black people. They point out that the statistics, but ignore the other side of those statistics - it literally states that all other races suffer from the same problems to some degree. Clearly, then, there must be some other source of the problems.

Gee, I wonder what other things could breed crime, poor education, and large families born from unexpected pregnancies.


If you can't figure out why "liberals" think you're a racist for focusing only on the black community while quoting statistics that show that all races have the same issues in low-income areas, then you're probably just farking stupid. And racist.

Now, we can have a conversation on the effects of generational poverty, but that would bring out the "welfare" hounds.

See.. thats where you are wrong.  If you live in a big city, lets use your as an example.  The poor white trash section of your town, I guarantee you, doesn't have the crime problems as the poor black section of your city.  Sure.  There IS white crime, but it can't even be seen when you stand it next to the black crime.

Watch your news.  Don't take my word for it.  It is easily seen in every major city in the entire U.S.

So, to reiterate.  It's NOT an economic problem.  It's a culture problem.


In the big city where I grew up, the cops used to drive right by the lines of white trash waiting for their meth connection, while the black ghetto kids were routinely pulled over and busted for drugs.  You would see white wife-beaters let off with a warning and black wife-beaters shoved into the cop car.

So I actually agree, it's a culture problem.  Just not the way you think.
 
2013-07-23 02:55:04 PM  

master_dman: Coolfusis: I like how people always frame it as "problems in the black community," as though it were somehow exclusive to black people. They point out that the statistics, but ignore the other side of those statistics - it literally states that all other races suffer from the same problems to some degree. Clearly, then, there must be some other source of the problems.

Gee, I wonder what other things could breed crime, poor education, and large families born from unexpected pregnancies.


If you can't figure out why "liberals" think you're a racist for focusing only on the black community while quoting statistics that show that all races have the same issues in low-income areas, then you're probably just farking stupid. And racist.

Now, we can have a conversation on the effects of generational poverty, but that would bring out the "welfare" hounds.

See.. thats where you are wrong.  If you live in a big city, lets use your as an example.  The poor white trash section of your town, I guarantee you, doesn't have the crime problems as the poor black section of your city.  Sure.  There IS white crime, but it can't even be seen when you stand it next to the black crime.

Watch your news.  Don't take my word for it.  It is easily seen in every major city in the entire U.S.

So, to reiterate.  It's NOT an economic problem.  It's a culture problem.


Even if it is a 'culture' problem, as you say, it's not an intrinsic cultural problem. It's learned and ingrained due to an exterior society that in many ways, hopes they just kill each other off. When you build a society that tells a large portion of its population that they aren't good enough, or smart enough, or valuable enough, etc, then you create a group of people who will live with that mentality.

If you're not familiar with 'A Class Divided' check it out.
 
2013-07-23 02:56:46 PM  

INeedAName: master_dman: Coolfusis: I like how people always frame it as "problems in the black community," as though it were somehow exclusive to black people. They point out that the statistics, but ignore the other side of those statistics - it literally states that all other races suffer from the same problems to some degree. Clearly, then, there must be some other source of the problems.

Gee, I wonder what other things could breed crime, poor education, and large families born from unexpected pregnancies.


If you can't figure out why "liberals" think you're a racist for focusing only on the black community while quoting statistics that show that all races have the same issues in low-income areas, then you're probably just farking stupid. And racist.

Now, we can have a conversation on the effects of generational poverty, but that would bring out the "welfare" hounds.

See.. thats where you are wrong.  If you live in a big city, lets use your as an example.  The poor white trash section of your town, I guarantee you, doesn't have the crime problems as the poor black section of your city.  Sure.  There IS white crime, but it can't even be seen when you stand it next to the black crime.

Watch your news.  Don't take my word for it.  It is easily seen in every major city in the entire U.S.

So, to reiterate.  It's NOT an economic problem.  It's a culture problem.

Even if it is a 'culture' problem, as you say, it's not an intrinsic cultural problem. It's learned and ingrained due to an exterior society that in many ways, hopes they just kill each other off. When you build a society that tells a large portion of its population that they aren't good enough, or smart enough, or valuable enough, etc, then you create a group of people who will live with that mentality.

If you're not familiar with 'A Class Divided' check it out.


How does that work with, say, a country like Haiti?
 
2013-07-23 04:03:51 PM  
He doesn't like to dwell on the past, except when he's regretting WW2 when he's hating on the French.
 
2013-07-23 04:28:35 PM  
If you want economic improvement, you have to value education. Far too often, those in lower socioeconomic groups do not place a high value on education. Add to that the glorification of "gang/thug/drug culture" by so many young people (of every race) and you have a very difficult problem to solve. Unfortunately, the problem can't be solved by you or me, or anyone else on the outside of the problem. The only people that can solve the problem, are those mired in the depths of the problem, though all of us should be willing to offer the support they need to elevate their standing in life.

My solution:
Have an Asian mother raise every black child for the next generation or so.

/HINT: The last line was a joke
//Come on, it's fark, you couldn't expect me to stay serious.
 
2013-07-23 04:31:31 PM  

bunner: Marcus Aurelius: mark12A: There *is* a black American holocaust going on in American cities, and we're not allowed to do ANYTHING about it except throw more money at it

3 out of 10 black American men will be imprisoned at some point in their lives, thanks to government policy and socioeconomic factors.

That's what I call a holocaust.

I don't want to sound all like, harrumph and sh*t, but do any of these numbers have anything to do with actual criminal activity?  Cause I'm pretty sure it's still a contributing factor to incarceration.


The system is designed that way.
 
2013-07-23 04:57:38 PM  

notsosilentbob: If you want economic improvement, you have to value education. Far too often, those in lower socioeconomic groups do not place a high value on education. Add to that the glorification of "gang/thug/drug culture" by so many young people (of every race) and you have a very difficult problem to solve. Unfortunately, the problem can't be solved by you or me, or anyone else on the outside of the problem. The only people that can solve the problem, are those mired in the depths of the problem, though all of us should be willing to offer the support they need to elevate their standing in life.

My solution:
Have an Asian mother raise every black child for the next generation or so.

/HINT: The last line was a joke
//Come on, it's fark, you couldn't expect me to stay serious.



then they would be unable to drive safely.
 
2013-07-23 05:12:50 PM  

Shryke: INeedAName: master_dman: Coolfusis: I like how people always frame it as "problems in the black community," as though it were somehow exclusive to black people. They point out that the statistics, but ignore the other side of those statistics - it literally states that all other races suffer from the same problems to some degree. Clearly, then, there must be some other source of the problems.

Gee, I wonder what other things could breed crime, poor education, and large families born from unexpected pregnancies.


If you can't figure out why "liberals" think you're a racist for focusing only on the black community while quoting statistics that show that all races have the same issues in low-income areas, then you're probably just farking stupid. And racist.

Now, we can have a conversation on the effects of generational poverty, but that would bring out the "welfare" hounds.

See.. thats where you are wrong.  If you live in a big city, lets use your as an example.  The poor white trash section of your town, I guarantee you, doesn't have the crime problems as the poor black section of your city.  Sure.  There IS white crime, but it can't even be seen when you stand it next to the black crime.

Watch your news.  Don't take my word for it.  It is easily seen in every major city in the entire U.S.

So, to reiterate.  It's NOT an economic problem.  It's a culture problem.

Even if it is a 'culture' problem, as you say, it's not an intrinsic cultural problem. It's learned and ingrained due to an exterior society that in many ways, hopes they just kill each other off. When you build a society that tells a large portion of its population that they aren't good enough, or smart enough, or valuable enough, etc, then you create a group of people who will live with that mentality.

If you're not familiar with 'A Class Divided' check it out.

How does that work with, say, a country like Haiti?




I know far too little about Haiti and its history to comment. I know it's unusual for someone on the internet to not spout off on topics about which they have no knowledge or understanding, but there you have it.

I'm also not sure I even know what you're asking.
 
2013-07-23 05:32:57 PM  
colorlines.com

colorlines.com

Any questions Bill? See this is why you get called a racist craka-ass mother-facker
 
2013-07-23 05:56:58 PM  
Fark you, Bill.
 
2013-07-23 06:06:20 PM  
Nope...no thanks.

The fourteen trillion clips of Bill O'Reilly saying dooshy things floating around the internet have been more than enough. Frankly, it gets boring. I have no outrage left for Fox "News". They took it all and spent it already.

It's about as interesting and original as watching a clever reporter asking irreverent questions at a Westboro protest.  "Tee hee! Can you believe he SAID that?!"

Wake me when something interesting happens.
 
2013-07-23 06:37:26 PM  

wotthefark: Any questions Bill? See this is why you get called a racist craka-ass mother-facker


i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-23 06:50:23 PM  

bunner: Here's a thought.  If I can tell you who god is, what money is and what honest work is, I own your sweaty ass and I never have to forge a single chain, regardless of your color.  Here's another.  If I can tell you what truth is as a child, I can treat you like that child forever.


Honestly, I have never seen anyone dominate a conversation like this and not actually add anything of any substance to it. I do give you a bow for your mastery. Unfortunately I need to put you on ignore. I don't need to read 100/140 comments1 that are about nothing. You do receive my congratulations though for winning this thread.

1 - Not intended to be a factual count.
 
2013-07-23 07:12:18 PM  

wotthefark: [colorlines.com image 640x400]

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Any questions Bill? See this is why you get called a racist craka-ass mother-facker


Yikes.  That is some stretching in there.

Myth 1 - Billy boy never mentioned anything about there being more black on black crime.  He just pointed out the higher crime statistics of blacks in general.  Hard to argue against that.

Myth 2 - Billy boy also never made any comment about general violent crime trends in the context of what it is presented in pic.

Myth 3 has its source listed as "Targeting Blacks - Human Rights Watch"  going to have to see something a little more objective on this one. While I do feel that blacks are targeted more than whites, I am not sure that  the numbers stack up as the source indicates it does here.  Lastly, I am pretty sure that Billy boy did not mis-address the equality of the law in his rant.

Myth 4 is 'refuted' by somthing that doesn't even address the premis.  How does punishing black kids more harshly have anything to do with the statistics of behavioral problems when the nature of the misdeed is not even charcterized?  There appears to be a clouding of correlation/causation going on with this refutation.

Myth 5 the first problem with this is that it takes stats from Washington DC and applies it to all communities.  Secondly, you can have most blacks not commiting crimes, but still have prevalent crime in said community.  These two concepts are not mutually exclusive.
 
2013-07-23 07:44:53 PM  

toddism: then they would be unable to drive safely.


An excellent point. I wonder if we can get some federal money to study this?
 
2013-07-23 07:48:54 PM  

bunner: It is terribly sad that a reasonable amount of what he stated in his little screed is actually quite factual and that if one were to present Bill with an equally unpleasant and absolutely factual account of what corporate whorehouses are doing to the American economy and it's citizens, he'd get at least as dismissive and harrumphy as any black community leader when presented about the facts of their community's broken culture.  It's all just people drawing lines, sticking flags in the dirt and "yuh HUH"  "nuh UH" -ing at each other without actually having to give up an inch of their own bad ideas.  And it's as unproductive as it sounds.


won in the boobies
 
2013-07-23 08:09:39 PM  
Facts are clearly racist.
 
2013-07-23 09:24:12 PM  

master_dman: Coolfusis: I like how people always frame it as "problems in the black community," as though it were somehow exclusive to black people. They point out that the statistics, but ignore the other side of those statistics - it literally states that all other races suffer from the same problems to some degree. Clearly, then, there must be some other source of the problems.

Gee, I wonder what other things could breed crime, poor education, and large families born from unexpected pregnancies.


If you can't figure out why "liberals" think you're a racist for focusing only on the black community while quoting statistics that show that all races have the same issues in low-income areas, then you're probably just farking stupid. And racist.

Now, we can have a conversation on the effects of generational poverty, but that would bring out the "welfare" hounds.

See.. thats where you are wrong.  If you live in a big city, lets use your as an example.  The poor white trash section of your town, I guarantee you, doesn't have the crime problems as the poor black section of your city.  Sure.  There IS white crime, but it can't even be seen when you stand it next to the black crime.

Watch your news.  Don't take my word for it.  It is easily seen in every major city in the entire U.S.

So, to reiterate.  It's NOT an economic problem.  It's a culture problem.


Are you kidding? I live in Texas. The very worst parts of town are white-heavy. Meth is a helluva drug.
 
2013-07-23 09:43:44 PM  

Skeuomorph: "Nobody's forcing black girls to have babies. It's a personal decision."

On the contrary, Bill, you are literally forcing them to, by systematically removing every "pro-choice" option. And f you take away those options, you now have responsibility for that child.  You need to feed them, educate them, give them jobs... That's now your decision.


I don't know, seems they've had a pretty easy time choosing aborti, oops I mean pro- choice options all along.  http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
 
2013-07-23 09:53:57 PM  

ManateeGag: are they taking away condoms?  why should someone else pay for a child because the guy too stupid/cheap to buy a rubber.


As a matter of fact...
http://www.businessinsider.com/police-arrest-women-for-carrying-cond om s-2013-3

Or, if you prefer news from a left wing source...
http://www.villagevoice.com/2013-03-06/news/nyc-s-condom-insanity/
 
2013-07-23 10:24:02 PM  
I agreed with a lot of what he had to say except for some of his solutions to the problem.  Harsher prison terms will not fix anything as long as our prison system remains the disaster that it is.   Everyone that goes in comes out worse...  We need to end the drug war and focus on rehab instead of prison.
 
2013-07-23 10:29:12 PM  

Skeuomorph: "Nobody's forcing black girls to have babies. It's a personal decision."

On the contrary, Bill, you are literally forcing them to, by systematically removing every "pro-choice" option. And f you take away those options, you now have responsibility for that child.  You need to feed them, educate them, give them jobs... That's now your decision.



Why shouldn't women not have babies? Is this some sort of eugenics sterilization type argument hidden there?


Anyway, what Oreiley said was babies out of wedlock. The reason they have babies out of wedlock is because it is a better choice to do so. We give more welfare money to single mothers than married mothers and so, babies are born out of wedlock for the poorer segment of the society.
 
2013-07-23 10:48:38 PM  

Fark Me Runnin: Facts are clearly racist.


He's making half the shiat up.
- Drugs didn't make Detroit what it is.
- Babies out of wedlock does not mean no male role models.
- The entertainment industry is irrelevant here. Out of how many hours of programming is it dedicated to gangsta related entertainment. For each gangsta, there is a Tyler Perry.
 
2013-07-23 11:12:44 PM  
Billy makes some VERY valid points here....I'm in full agreement with 80% of his rant !
 
2013-07-23 11:24:08 PM  

Into the blue again: Honestly, I have never seen anyone dominate a conversation like this and not actually add anything of any substance to it.


Oh, sorry.  "Wash your ass regularly".  How's that Lord Sniffington?  Puhleeeze.
 
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