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(Huffington Post)   A pack of vicious dogs attack man nearly dismembering him. Bystanders are unable to help and can only film the horrific incident. Here is the footage (Not safe for work)   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 156
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2013-07-23 05:01:54 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: tiamet4: rikkitikkitavi: tiamet4: NO. DON'T DO THIS. People commonly recommend it and maybe it has worked on some dogs, but in general it puts you in danger of being bitten, and frightens the dog, reinforcing its need to be aggressive around you (most aggression is fear based, not dominance based). Imagine if some scary person came into your house and you told him to GTFO and he grabbed you and tried to hold you down on your back to "show you you have to submit". You'd flip the f*ck out and think you're going to die. This method would best be described as "flooding" and only works if you can safely (for you and the dog) restrain him for as long as it takes for him to become completely calm. It's akin to teaching a person not to be afraid of spiders by locking them up in a box with spiders and not letting them out until they are calm. You can do it that way, but it's torture, they may hurt themselves or someone else trying to escape in a panic, and if you stop even a little bit before they have fully calmed down you've only increased their fear. It's a bad idea.

You have no idea what you're talking about and your analogies are complete bunk.  Submission and dominance are not punishment. And are non-aggressive.

Well I'm not going to argue that there aren't situations for people where submission and dominance aren't punishment, but you really shouldn't be going there with your dog.

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I don't know what disturbs me more: the fact that those exist or the fact that there was a demand for a blindfold portion.
 
2013-07-23 05:38:12 PM

lordluzr: Is there ANY reason I should click that link?  Can anyone convince me it's a good idea?


He survives.  The cameraman I mean.  I'm not so sure about the other guy.
 
2013-07-23 06:18:34 PM
I saw Django Unchained, and was shocked at the scene where Calvin Candie's dogs ripped apart a slave. But when you look closely at the scene, you can tell that it was all done with tricky editing and unusual camera angles. I am sure that in many jump cuts in this scene where you only see the slave's legs, it isn't even a real person being attacked.  Besides, nobody in Hollywood would release a mainstream film where an actor would be really torn apart by dogs. It was nonetheless a shocking scene, but as close as I want to come to seeing this happen.

//In short, no clickee for me either
 
2013-07-23 10:17:09 PM

Clearance for Clarence: QueenMamaBee: Anyone have any experience with Plott hounds? I haven't heard of them, but our local rescue has two. They're cute!!! I kinda want.

They are generally very sweet. Careful offleash though since they tend to have a mind of their own and wander.


That's true of most hounds.they follow their noses.
 
2013-07-24 05:04:48 AM

Lady Indica: Sargun: BMFPitt: HindiDiscoMonster: BMFPitt: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x209]

you know what would make that really funny? If the bird's words were not 1 point microscopic type... just sayin' it's kinda hard to laugh at half a joke.

The other half of the joke isn't a talking vulture. It's the presumed knowledge of the photo's backstory.

Especially since the child's parents were nearby and the picture was taken near a UN food dump.  The kid was alone while his parents got their boxes of aid and Carter thought the picture looked cool.

I did research on that pic when I first saw it years ago, it horrified me so much. What I dug up at the time was that the child was on a road to the UN food camp, and was alone (though the road wasn't deserted). The food camp was not within visible distance (but was within a mile IIRC), and he did not follow up on whether or not the child made it to the camp, or survived. He later felt really shiatty about this, his life went downhill after the picture and controversy with it and he eventually committed suicide. I think Snopes has something on it too, but not sure.

Regardless, that picture haunts the fark out of me.

TRUE


http://www.snopes.com/photos/people/kevincarter.asp
 
2013-07-24 05:10:14 AM

tiamet4: HindiDiscoMonster: tiamet4: rikkitikkitavi: tiamet4: NO. DON'T DO THIS. People commonly recommend it and maybe it has worked on some dogs, but in general it puts you in danger of being bitten, and frightens the dog, reinforcing its need to be aggressive around you (most aggression is fear based, not dominance based). Imagine if some scary person came into your house and you told him to GTFO and he grabbed you and tried to hold you down on your back to "show you you have to submit". You'd flip the f*ck out and think you're going to die. This method would best be described as "flooding" and only works if you can safely (for you and the dog) restrain him for as long as it takes for him to become completely calm. It's akin to teaching a person not to be afraid of spiders by locking them up in a box with spiders and not letting them out until they are calm. You can do it that way, but it's torture, they may hurt themselves or someone else trying to escape in a panic, and if you stop even a little bit before they have fully calmed down you've only increased their fear. It's a bad idea.

You have no idea what you're talking about and your analogies are complete bunk.  Submission and dominance are not punishment. And are non-aggressive.

Well I'm not going to argue that there aren't situations for people where submission and dominance aren't punishment, but you really shouldn't be going there with your dog.

[image.dhgate.com image 400x319]

I don't know what disturbs me more: the fact that those exist or the fact that there was a demand for a blindfold portion.


I am right there with ya...

If Google can't find it... it doesn't exist.
 
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