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(NPR)   This handy graph shows that most Americans get to work using a private vehicle instead of walking, taking public transportation, or "other," which must be horseback or something   (npr.org) divider line 153
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2013-07-23 12:34:48 AM
I can't even get a pizza delivered to my house, I don't think I'll be seeing public transportation anytime soon.
 
2013-07-23 12:41:19 AM
The Vanderbildts have asked us up to tea;
But we've no way to get there; no, siree.
 
2013-07-23 01:17:15 AM
Something smells of BS.  Working at home was 3x in 1960 more compared to today?  No way.
 
2013-07-23 01:23:51 AM
What i see there is that car ownership hasn't changed much in 30 years, but walking and public transportation are taking a beating from working at home.
 
2013-07-23 01:27:56 AM
I bike 10 miles into work, and then 10 back. I guess I'm "other" then. Then again, I'm still at my college weight, so there's that.
 
2013-07-23 01:40:51 AM
I like the comment about the high ratio of bicycle use in copenhagen.

Your country is as flat as a pancake, dude.
 
2013-07-23 01:41:59 AM
Not mine, but exactly the kind of 80cc Honda that I've been getting around San Francisco on the last 13 years.

media-s3.viva-images.com
It is so great for getting parking, so much fun to drive and be seen on. 75mpg and only double digits per year to insure.Easily carries one passenger. Only goes up to 40 mpg, but the distances in San Francisco makes anywhere within 25 minutes, most way less. And like I say, it might take a few more minutes not being able to take the freeway, but it saves dozens of minutes or more because I get more or less instant parking.
 
2013-07-23 01:43:45 AM

downstairs: Something smells of BS.  Working at home was 3x in 1960 more compared to today?  No way.


Do you know how I know you DNRTFA? Because they clearly explain it. Now go back and do your homework, and for Godsake no one just give lazyboi the answer.
 
2013-07-23 01:44:04 AM
I ride subby's wife.
 
2013-07-23 01:45:58 AM
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I've skated to work before.
 
2013-07-23 01:46:24 AM
Buying the house across the street from work for the win. I have now NOT driven to work well over 2,000 times. Have to say I don't miss it at all.
 
2013-07-23 01:46:36 AM

Kevin72: downstairs: Something smells of BS.  Working at home was 3x in 1960 more compared to today?  No way.

Do you know how I know you DNRTFA? Because they clearly explain it. Now go back and do your homework, and for Godsake no one just give lazyboi the answer.


Oops, turns out lazyboi is a moderator. Feel free to tell downstairs why the work at home rate actually decreased.
 
2013-07-23 01:48:01 AM
Other is probably 1%ers taking helecoptor.
 
2013-07-23 01:48:04 AM
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2013-07-23 01:49:05 AM

downstairs: Something smells of BS.  Working at home was 3x in 1960 more compared to today?  No way.


you're not thinking outside the box! think agriculture and self-employed. Farmers, woodcutters, craftsman etc would be considered working from home.
 
2013-07-23 01:49:15 AM

Kevin72: Not mine, but exactly the kind of 80cc Honda that I've been getting around San Francisco on the last 13 years.

[media-s3.viva-images.com image 450x337]
It is so great for getting parking, so much fun to drive and be seen on. 75mpg and only double digits per year to insure.Easily carries one passenger. Only goes up to 40 mpg, but the distances in San Francisco makes anywhere within 25 minutes, most way less. And like I say, it might take a few more minutes not being able to take the freeway, but it saves dozens of minutes or more because I get more or less instant parking.


You sound fat.
 
2013-07-23 01:54:59 AM

violentsalvation: I can't even get a pizza delivered to my house, I don't think I'll be seeing public transportation anytime soon.


This.

/it's worth it though to live away from the crowds.
 
2013-07-23 01:56:52 AM
I love having a car, and I love using it to go where I want, when I want, free of some municipal d-bag's plans and schedules for me (and his own real estate investments).  Public transportation is too much of a tradeoff of freedom.

That said, buses are a great thing and I sure wish the losers who set up rail systems in places like Austin, Boston, and LA would use all that money (or even just half of it) on buses, and forget the stupid rail system.  Places like Manhattan are different.  If the roads need to be expanded, obviously expand them.
 
2013-07-23 01:57:25 AM
My bicycle's a private vehicle, so they're correct on that count.
 
2013-07-23 01:57:39 AM

downstairs: Something smells of BS.  Working at home was 3x in 1960 more compared to today?  No way.


TFA:  "the steep decline in the number of family farmers and the growing tendency of professionals, such as doctors and lawyers, to leave their home and join group practices resulted in a loss each decade of the number of at-home workers."
 
2013-07-23 01:58:53 AM
I wonder if the decrease in carpooling (even as the environmentalists add more HOV lanes to the point where 2 out of 4 lanes on CA 85 will be HOV (well, to be entirely fair, HOT) by 2016) has to do with the decrease in manufacturing.

Because if I'm working 9-5, I can find a person on my shift, and mooch a ride.  But if I'm going in between 7 AM and 11 AM and coming home at about 6:30 to 8 PM*, it's a lot harder to find someone willing to put up with my crazy schedule.

*Startups are awesome, because they just do not care about the variance in my hours.
 
2013-07-23 01:59:56 AM

Arcanum: That said, buses are a great thing and I sure wish the losers who set up rail systems in places like Austin, Boston, and LA would use all that money (or even just half of it) on buses, and forget the stupid rail system.  Places like Manhattan are different.  If the roads need to be expanded, obviously expand them.


I *love* my commute into Manhattan Daily - Yes, I have to be out at the Corner at 7AM, but I get to ... SLEEP the whole way in, and on the way out, I also get to SLEEP on the express (read: luxury) bus for about 3$ each way when you factor in that I am buying it pre-tax AND I get a discount.
 
2013-07-23 02:01:31 AM
I used the public transportation (BART) when I worked in the City (San Francisco).  Now I drive.  It's a 45 minute trip (each way) and can be more depending upon traffic (35 minutes in the middle of the night and no traffic).  I can't take public transportation.  I checked.  It would be a 2 1/2 to 3 hour trip each way because there is nothing direct.  Fark that.
 
2013-07-23 02:02:23 AM

SuperNinjaToad: downstairs: Something smells of BS.  Working at home was 3x in 1960 more compared to today?  No way.

you're not thinking outside the box! think agriculture and self-employed. Farmers, woodcutters, craftsman etc would be considered working from home.


Ahhhh... never thought of that.  I grew up in the 80s in the suburbs, so a long commute is all I knew.  And yeah, as is often the case, I'm guilty of not reading the article.
 
2013-07-23 02:10:09 AM

Arcanum: I love having a car, and I love using it to go where I want, when I want, free of some municipal d-bag's plans and schedules for me (and his own real estate investments).  Public transportation is too much of a tradeoff of freedom.

That said, buses are a great thing and I sure wish the losers who set up rail systems in places like Austin, Boston, and LA would use all that money (or even just half of it) on buses, and forget the stupid rail system.  Places like Manhattan are different.  If the roads need to be expanded, obviously expand them.


Depends.

Are you talking about light rail that has to stop at stoplights or are you talking about heavy/elevated/underground rail that can preempt/ignore all signage?  Because the former sucks and the latter is super awesome-sauce (albeit by being insanely expensive).

Because I was on a bus in Boston once that went 1.5 miles in 1 hour because of traffic.  On an average day, it was literally quicker to catch the Red line to the Green Line to get from Central Square (where the late work shuttle dropped off) to Symphony (where my apartment was) than to take the bus.  And while the B, C and E lines on the Green Line all sucked, the D was pure awesome sauce.

/Or here in the Bay Area, Caltrain and BART(minus homeless people feces) are relatively good, but the VTA light rail is just stupid and any bus is by definition a giant vortex of stupid (unless you like taking an hour to go 5.5 miles)
 
2013-07-23 02:10:10 AM

Kevin72: downstairs: Something smells of BS.  Working at home was 3x in 1960 more compared to today?  No way.

Do you know how I know you DNRTFA? Because they clearly explain it. Now go back and do your homework, and for Godsake no one just give lazyboi the answer.


Yeah, I didn't read the article.  I wasn't alive in the 60s, never thought of that.
 
2013-07-23 02:10:35 AM
I would have thought more people use public transit or walk in comparison to 1980.

Didn't a lot of cities revalitize/revamp their downtown areas?  Also the idea of moving out to the suburbs for folks in their 20's and 30's doesn't seem to hold the same appeal as a few decades ago.  Atleast that's what the media makes it look like, and what my personal experience has beem

Also, I got the impression that there are more cities with light rail and better bus systems than a few decades ago.
 
2013-07-23 02:19:04 AM

SirEattonHogg: I would have thought more people use public transit or walk in comparison to 1980.

Didn't a lot of cities revalitize/revamp their downtown areas?   Also the idea of moving out to the suburbs for folks in their 20's and 30's doesn't seem to hold the same appeal as a few decades ago.  Atleast that's what the media makes it look like, and what my personal experience has beem

Also, I got the impression that there are more cities with light rail and better bus systems than a few decades ago.


Wait until we/they have kids.  When every extra bedroom is $1000/month (or more), and the good schools are out in the burbs, they'll move.  Right now, it's really cool to go to all the festivals and other things and being downtown where things are happening is kinda nice for a lot of people (if they can afford it - see my last link).  10-20 years from now, that'll all change (or they'll decide to not have kids and this country's future will be boned, but that's the breaks).
 
2013-07-23 02:20:00 AM
I work from home, but when I did commute to work I either walked or took the bus/L. Now if I want to get out of the apartment to work, I usually just walk. 3G/4G hotspots are great for working out in random places that have no wifi. Sometimes I'll hit up a Starbucks or something if it isn't crowded. Not having a car is only a pain if you need to pick up something large, and that really only would have come in handy when I was moving a few weeks ago.
 
2013-07-23 02:25:40 AM

Kevin72: so much fun to drive and be seen on


Scooters are like fat chicks. They look like fun when you're totally plastered, but you don't want any of your friends to see you riding one.
 
2013-07-23 02:26:26 AM
I used to work for a carpool company, it was like asking people for their first born to give up their cars

Do you think you could ride together with your co-worker who also happens to be your neighbor, do you not like people?

more often than not most problems of ride sharing was because one person could not speak their minds. and just sat in silent fury until explosion.
 
2013-07-23 02:26:58 AM
I have not owned or driven a car or motorcycle since 1998.

I put about 60 miles a week on my bikes however....
 
2013-07-23 02:27:39 AM
I bike to work (5 miles) year round in Connecticut. The coldest day this year was 14 F.

"Other" = "hell"
 
2013-07-23 02:28:54 AM
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2013-07-23 02:29:21 AM
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I could take the bus for free (university ID), but getting to work would require the first bus be 10 minutes early and the second 5 minutes late, or I get to wait 2 hours for the next one.  And there's nothing running when I get out of work at 2am.
 
2013-07-23 02:30:31 AM

Asa Phelps: I like the comment about the high ratio of bicycle use in copenhagen.

Your country is as flat as a pancake, dude.


And our citizens are fat as pigs dude. Quit yer sniveling and ride your bike.
 
2013-07-23 02:34:34 AM

Kevin72: Not mine, but exactly the kind of 80cc Honda that I've been getting around San Francisco on the last 13 years.

[media-s3.viva-images.com image 450x337]
It is so great for getting parking, so much fun to drive and be seen on. 75mpg and only double digits per year to insure.Easily carries one passenger. Only goes up to 40 mpg, but the distances in San Francisco makes anywhere within 25 minutes, most way less. And like I say, it might take a few more minutes not being able to take the freeway, but it saves dozens of minutes or more because I get more or less instant parking.


i know a guy who dropped a 2000 VW TDI engine into an '81 VW Rabbit Sportruck and gets 70mpg doing 70mph on the freeway.
 
2013-07-23 02:35:55 AM
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2013-07-23 02:37:39 AM

TwowheelinTim: Asa Phelps: I like the comment about the high ratio of bicycle use in copenhagen.

Your country is as flat as a pancake, dude.

And our citizens are fat as pigs dude. Quit yer sniveling and ride your bike.


my point is that it's really easy to pick a bicycle as a mode of transportation when you live somewhere where the curvature of the earth's crust is the most prominent geological feature.

I live 38 miles from work. i don't want to live near work because i work in a shiatty neighborhood, and if i wanted to bike to work I'd have to live in a shiatty neighborhood too.

i could take a train, and it would only take thrice the time to get from here to there.
 
2013-07-23 02:38:16 AM
Gee, in a country where urban planners spent two generations pretty much ensuring that people were as reliant on cars as possible, while companies like GM engaged in criminal conspiracy to drive public transportation options like street cars, which are really popular throughout the world, into bankruptcy, people prefer cars? I'm shocked. Shocked!
 
2013-07-23 02:38:48 AM

TwowheelinTim: Asa Phelps: I like the comment about the high ratio of bicycle use in copenhagen.

Your country is as flat as a pancake, dude.

And our citizens are fat as pigs dude. Quit yer sniveling and ride your bike.


Recently I drove up behind a family of really fat people riding their bikes. - - - I am defs going to hell.
 
2013-07-23 02:39:01 AM

Asa Phelps: Kevin72: Not mine, but exactly the kind of 80cc Honda that I've been getting around San Francisco on the last 13 years.

[media-s3.viva-images.com image 450x337]
It is so great for getting parking, so much fun to drive and be seen on. 75mpg and only double digits per year to insure.Easily carries one passenger. Only goes up to 40 mpg, but the distances in San Francisco makes anywhere within 25 minutes, most way less. And like I say, it might take a few more minutes not being able to take the freeway, but it saves dozens of minutes or more because I get more or less instant parking.

i know a guy who dropped a 2000 VW TDI engine into an '81 VW Rabbit Sportruck and gets 70mpg doing 70mph on the freeway.


It's always nice to see people keeping the Bauhaus philosophy of "Form follows function" going.

/70 mpg is pretty awesome though
 
2013-07-23 02:41:05 AM

Kevin72: Only goes up to 40 mpg


You might look at some of the new 125cc. They can pretty easily hit 100 km/h and the hydraulic brakes make stopping much safer. I feel like I'm on a death trap when I have to ride something without them.
 
2013-07-23 02:42:29 AM

Asa Phelps: TwowheelinTim: Asa Phelps: I like the comment about the high ratio of bicycle use in copenhagen.

Your country is as flat as a pancake, dude.

And our citizens are fat as pigs dude. Quit yer sniveling and ride your bike.

my point is that it's really easy to pick a bicycle as a mode of transportation when you live somewhere where the curvature of the earth's crust is the most prominent geological feature.

I live 38 miles from work. i don't want to live near work because i work in a shiatty neighborhood, and if i wanted to bike to work I'd have to live in a shiatty neighborhood too.

i could take a train, and it would only take thrice the time to get from here to there.


It's all about choices isn't it.
 
2013-07-23 02:44:36 AM
My preferred mode

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2013-07-23 02:51:24 AM

Kevin72: Not mine, but exactly the kind of 80cc Honda that I've been getting around San Francisco on the last 13 years.

[media-s3.viva-images.com image 450x337]
It is so great for getting parking, so much fun to drive and be seen on. 75mpg and only double digits per year to insure.Easily carries one passenger. Only goes up to 40 mpg, but the distances in San Francisco makes anywhere within 25 minutes, most way less. And like I say, it might take a few more minutes not being able to take the freeway, but it saves dozens of minutes or more because I get more or less instant parking.


the reason they are so cheap to insure is because when you get hit (and you will), the insurance company will only have to pay out for a car wash and paint job... the car won't notice while it juices you into pulp... Any color on a motorcycle or moped in most parts of the country in reality is invisible. You could be driving a hot pink moped with a neon sign going full bore bright as the sun and people would still not see you. It's a phenomenon known as an S.E.P. and makes you invisible.
 
2013-07-23 02:55:43 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: Kevin72: Not mine, but exactly the kind of 80cc Honda that I've been getting around San Francisco on the last 13 years.

[media-s3.viva-images.com image 450x337]
It is so great for getting parking, so much fun to drive and be seen on. 75mpg and only double digits per year to insure.Easily carries one passenger. Only goes up to 40 mpg, but the distances in San Francisco makes anywhere within 25 minutes, most way less. And like I say, it might take a few more minutes not being able to take the freeway, but it saves dozens of minutes or more because I get more or less instant parking.

the reason they are so cheap to insure is because when you get hit (and you will), the insurance company will only have to pay out for a car wash and paint job... the car won't notice while it juices you into pulp... Any color on a motorcycle or moped in most parts of the country in reality is invisible. You could be driving a hot pink moped with a neon sign going full bore bright as the sun and people would still not see you. It's a phenomenon known as an S.E.P. and makes you invisible.


Okay, you've piqued my curiosity. WTF is SEP?
 
2013-07-23 02:58:38 AM

TwowheelinTim: HindiDiscoMonster: Kevin72: Not mine, but exactly the kind of 80cc Honda that I've been getting around San Francisco on the last 13 years.

[media-s3.viva-images.com image 450x337]
It is so great for getting parking, so much fun to drive and be seen on. 75mpg and only double digits per year to insure.Easily carries one passenger. Only goes up to 40 mpg, but the distances in San Francisco makes anywhere within 25 minutes, most way less. And like I say, it might take a few more minutes not being able to take the freeway, but it saves dozens of minutes or more because I get more or less instant parking.

the reason they are so cheap to insure is because when you get hit (and you will), the insurance company will only have to pay out for a car wash and paint job... the car won't notice while it juices you into pulp... Any color on a motorcycle or moped in most parts of the country in reality is invisible. You could be driving a hot pink moped with a neon sign going full bore bright as the sun and people would still not see you. It's a phenomenon known as an S.E.P. and makes you invisible.

Okay, you've piqued my curiosity. WTF is SEP?


It's a Simple Employee Pension plan (more or less an IRA). The call girl in Archer has one.
 
2013-07-23 02:58:39 AM

TwowheelinTim: HindiDiscoMonster: Kevin72: Not mine, but exactly the kind of 80cc Honda that I've been getting around San Francisco on the last 13 years.

[media-s3.viva-images.com image 450x337]
It is so great for getting parking, so much fun to drive and be seen on. 75mpg and only double digits per year to insure.Easily carries one passenger. Only goes up to 40 mpg, but the distances in San Francisco makes anywhere within 25 minutes, most way less. And like I say, it might take a few more minutes not being able to take the freeway, but it saves dozens of minutes or more because I get more or less instant parking.

the reason they are so cheap to insure is because when you get hit (and you will), the insurance company will only have to pay out for a car wash and paint job... the car won't notice while it juices you into pulp... Any color on a motorcycle or moped in most parts of the country in reality is invisible. You could be driving a hot pink moped with a neon sign going full bore bright as the sun and people would still not see you. It's a phenomenon known as an S.E.P. and makes you invisible.

Okay, you've piqued my curiosity. WTF is SEP?


Somebody Else's Problem.
 
2013-07-23 03:02:16 AM

TwowheelinTim: Okay, you've piqued my curiosity. WTF is SEP?


Snoopy Eats (Peppermint) Patty, Charles Schultz' unpublished finale.

Or Somebody Else's Problem.
 
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