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2013-07-23 01:55:04 AM  
Can this go where I think it can go? DRTFA.
/Good to hear all the same.
//It's past time
 
2013-07-23 01:56:15 AM  

Cyberluddite: The only reason this judge ruled that bans on same-sex marriage violate the Constitution is that bans on same-sex marriage obviously violate the Constitution. There is really no viable argument to the contrary, and I defy anybody to come up with one.


^^^^ right up there, this.
 
2013-07-23 01:57:24 AM  

Mad_Radhu: FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 277x277]
Bigotry, intolerance, prejudice, and social "conservatism" always lose.

Always.

The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.


Civil rights should never be put to a vote.
 
2013-07-23 01:57:48 AM  
The existing SCOTUS precident is that states do NOT have to recognize types of licenses they do not issue(a precident that has been set in concealed carry license cases) so this judge will likely have his ruling smacked down by appeals court or SCOTUS
 
2013-07-23 02:00:34 AM  
Oh, great. Gay marriage and free weed for anyone who is or isn't a documented citizen if this country.

/no, seriously, please?
 
2013-07-23 02:02:07 AM  
In before WHARRRRRRRRRGARBL...
 
2013-07-23 02:02:39 AM  

FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 277x277]
Bigotry, intolerance, prejudice, and social "conservatism" always lose.

Always.


Say that with a straight face to a 100% native American. If you can find one. Go Redskins.
 
2013-07-23 02:03:08 AM  

hardinparamedic: You sodomites. Don't you know this is just ANOTHER example of unconstitutional activist judicial law making that is sweeping our country since ZEROBAMA got into office? If we start becoming accepting of the homogay, another 9/11 is JUST AROUND THE CORNER as punishment from God for rejecting his founding principles of the United States.

You people should ALL BE ASHAMED that you have turned your backs on the one, true loving God which brought you into this world, and have embraced sinful lifestyle choices such as this. We should not encourage these mentally ill people to live in their sinful delusions!


I love that people say that their god is punishing everyone for gays and abortions and whatnot. He should be punishing his followers for being bigots, anti-poor, racist, self serving, greedy, ignorant, selfish, lying about their god, killing in name of their god, abusive because of their god, and other sins that are actually in the Bible.
 
2013-07-23 02:03:36 AM  

make me some tea: Subby, you couldn't even type out "same-sex marriage"? Really?


Im late to this, but, if i may- this is kinda cool and everyone wants the damn green on a story like this.
I was off buying airplanes in megap city something but i have been known to submit and fake spell check because i counted my keystrokes, and been off. Sometimes- a green feels good. You farking made it- you made at least 2 people smile or chortle or groan. Any of them or any combination works, but that depends.
So- grats, Subby- good on ya for winning the race to the green text !
 
2013-07-23 02:05:05 AM  

Cyberluddite: The only reason this judge ruled that bans on same-sex marriage violate the Constitution is that bans on same-sex marriage obviously violate the Constitution. There is really no viable argument to the contrary, and I defy anybody to come up with one.


Turtles and cats, apparently.
 
2013-07-23 02:05:45 AM  
there are unfortunately, but realistically, some things the constitution just does not cover.
trying to make some things a constitutional battle simply begs for bullshiat interpretations.

are laws regulating genetic engineering constitutional?

some things you just have to figure out with common sense.
society itself must agree, or at least the majority.

this is where we are at. the consensus is turning the corner.
this has nothing to do with the constitution
 
2013-07-23 02:06:00 AM  
tinfoil-hat maggie: Mad_Radhu: FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 277x277]
Bigotry, intolerance, prejudice, and social "conservatism" always lose.

Always.

The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.

Civil rights should never be put to a vote.


what would repeating bears talk about ? a bad bug season or not enough flowers to eat ?
 
2013-07-23 02:06:51 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Mad_Radhu: FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 277x277]
Bigotry, intolerance, prejudice, and social "conservatism" always lose.

Always.

The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.

Civil rights should never be put to a vote.


Same for someone pushing their religious beliefs as laws for everyone. It should never be put to a vote.
 
2013-07-23 02:07:42 AM  
By the way- Maggie- I look at that and it seems crass and not at all what i meant to convey. oops
I was going for a play on me not posting pics, but SQUIRREL!
 
2013-07-23 02:11:26 AM  
Arigato godzaimas, Ohio!
 
2013-07-23 02:12:39 AM  

alienated: By the way- Maggie- I look at that and it seems crass and not at all what i meant to convey. oops
I was going for a play on me not posting pics, but SQUIRREL!


Squirrel?
farm8.staticflickr.com
No worries : )
 
2013-07-23 02:13:20 AM  

alienated: Civil rights should never be put to a vote.


This is exactly what Judge Walker wrote in district court when it first struck down Prop. 8 in California.  That was the essence of his opinion:  marriage is a fundamental right, and you can't take those away with a vote.  Tyranny of the majority doesn't work in our country.
 
2013-07-23 02:14:08 AM  
Well done judge whose name I didn't bother looking up.
 
2013-07-23 02:15:50 AM  

Zeppelininthesky: tinfoil-hat maggie: Mad_Radhu: FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 277x277]
Bigotry, intolerance, prejudice, and social "conservatism" always lose.

Always.

The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.

Civil rights should never be put to a vote.

Same for someone pushing their religious beliefs as laws for everyone. It should never be put to a vote.


We had constitution for that but lot's of things got passed that were all religious beliefs. We'll see.
 
2013-07-23 02:15:52 AM  

ambassador_ahab: alienated: Civil rights should never be put to a vote.

This is exactly what Judge Walker wrote in district court when it first struck down Prop. 8 in California.  That was the essence of his opinion:  marriage is a fundamental right, and you can't take those away with a vote.  Tyranny of the majority doesn't work in our country.


Too bad the majority are making life harder by trying to force their beliefs on the rest of the nation.
 
2013-07-23 02:18:08 AM  

ambassador_ahab: alienated: Civil rights should never be put to a vote.

This is exactly what Judge Walker wrote in district court when it first struck down Prop. 8 in California.  That was the essence of his opinion:  marriage is a fundamental right, and you can't take those away with a vote.  Tyranny of the majority doesn't work in our country.


And oddly, in a way, they did set a precedent. Does Walker, who is retired, have any friends in other states within the 9th ? He just might . i will wait and see.
 
2013-07-23 02:18:11 AM  

pootsie: Indeed, just as Justice Scalia predicted in his animated dissent, by virtue of the present lawsuit, "the state-law shoe" has now dropped in Ohio. Windsor, 133 S.Ct. at 77-78.

Let me repeat that last delicious bite for you ...

Indeed, just as Justice Scalia predicted in his animated dissent, by virtue of the present lawsuit, "the state-law shoe" has now dropped in Ohio. Windsor, 133 S.Ct. at 77-78.


Oh, that is beautiful. I can just imagine Scalia raging away when he finds out that his dissent was cited in this case.

I've got to say, ever since the Perry and Windsor decisions, I've been unable to get the least bit upset about people's anti-gay bigotry because it just feels like the impotent rage of those who know they've lost but refuse to admit it. Instead of getting upset or angry or depressed, I just laugh. Not that there isn't still a lot of work to be done, but it's all over but the shouting.
 
2013-07-23 02:19:37 AM  
For those wanting info on this judge, he's only been on the bench since 2010, but was recommended by a bipartisan commission that Obama agreed with and was confirmed by unanimous voice vote in the Senate.  He was previously a magistrate who get elected by the judges and before that an elected judge as a Democrat but had previously ran and lost a judicial position running as a Republican making the change about the time Bubba got elected.
 
2013-07-23 02:20:07 AM  

Oldiron_79: The existing SCOTUS precident is that states do NOT have to recognize types of licenses they do not issue(a precident that has been set in concealed carry license cases) so this judge will likely have his ruling smacked down by appeals court or SCOTUS


Go back and read the article slowly, looking up the big words in a dictionary. It might help.
 
2013-07-23 02:20:11 AM  
But why would a gay person want to live in Ohio anyway?


/ewwwwww
 
2013-07-23 02:21:55 AM  

ambassador_ahab: It begins!!!  It starts with a muslim-kenyan-socialist-fascist dictator that was only elected by voter intimidation.

Then we have the Windsor case, and now other federal judges have to respect the Windsor case because of some weird-ass rule B. Hussein Obama made about "binding precedent" whatever the fark that means...and it's like the farking dominoes are finally falling.  Would G. Walker Bush have allowed the liberal tyrants at the Supreme Court to destroy marriage?!  NO!  He would have used his VETO power!

It's time for your come to Jesus moment, libtards.


That's some comedy gold right there.

/pocket ninja still does it better
//slashies
 
2013-07-23 02:22:12 AM  

kimwim: My sister and sister-in-law got married in a church in Illinois 5 years ago, still waiting to get married legally. We've invited them repeatedly to come to CT to get married, I don't know what they're waiting for.


Have they sued in federal court?
Illinois not recognizing their religious marriage is clearly a violation of their first amendment rights.
Illinois can not accept some religious sacraments and not others.

I cant imagine that we have not seen many more of these cases by now.
And more importantly, the war is over, the fat lady has song and all we have to do now is wait for the dust to settle.

I wonder, what's next?
 
2013-07-23 02:22:25 AM  

Zeppelininthesky: Too bad the majority are making life harder by trying to force their beliefs on the rest of the nation.


Exactly.  If you're in a straight marriage and want to stay in it, nobody is going to force you to get a divorce and then go get gay married.
 
2013-07-23 02:22:41 AM  

ambassador_ahab: alienated: Civil rights should never be put to a vote.

This is exactly what Judge Walker wrote in district court when it first struck down Prop. 8 in California.  That was the essence of his opinion:  marriage is a fundamental right, and you can't take those away with a vote.  Tyranny of the majority doesn't work in our country.


Yeah, but Judge Walker is a homo so his opinion shouldn't be allowed to matter. Or something like that. I'm a little rusty on my NOM talking points.
 
2013-07-23 02:23:38 AM  

hardinparamedic: You sodomites. Don't you know this is just ANOTHER example of unconstitutional activist judicial law making that is sweeping our country since ZEROBAMA got into office? If we start becoming accepting of the homogay, another 9/11 is JUST AROUND THE CORNER as punishment from God for rejecting his founding principles of the United States.

You people should ALL BE ASHAMED that you have turned your backs on the one, true loving God which brought you into this world, and have embraced sinful lifestyle choices such as this. We should not encourage these mentally ill people to live in their sinful delusions!


Not sure if satire or trolling...
 
2013-07-23 02:24:01 AM  
Look, I know it's Buzzfeed and not real journalism, but when there's a story with major political implications, maybe your readers want to hear more about things like the court's reasons for making their decision and less about the personal lives of two random people we don't give a fark about?

I mean, there's a big difference between striking this on full faith and credit grounds (which higher courts have already rejected, see the most recent gay marriage ruling and concealed carry licenses) and striking it on equal protection grounds (which has some potential to actually stick).  Kind of an important part of the story.
 
2013-07-23 02:24:24 AM  

SpdrJay: But why would a gay person want to live in Ohio anyway?


/ewwwwww


The hope is we'll be able to live wherever we want in the states and have equal rights.
 
2013-07-23 02:26:13 AM  

rynthetyn: ambassador_ahab: alienated: Civil rights should never be put to a vote.

This is exactly what Judge Walker wrote in district court when it first struck down Prop. 8 in California.  That was the essence of his opinion:  marriage is a fundamental right, and you can't take those away with a vote.  Tyranny of the majority doesn't work in our country.

Yeah, but Judge Walker is a homo so his opinion shouldn't be allowed to matter. Or something like that. I'm a little rusty on my NOM talking points.


Oh you. JPG : )
 
2013-07-23 02:27:29 AM  
Needs a HERO tag.
 
2013-07-23 02:28:04 AM  

Jim_Callahan: I mean, there's a big difference between striking this on full faith and credit grounds (which higher courts have already rejected, see the most recent gay marriage ruling and concealed carry licenses) and striking it on equal protection grounds (which has some potential to actually stick). Kind of an important part of the story.


If it's really a TRO then neither is the case for now.

tl; dr.
 
2013-07-23 02:28:09 AM  

rynthetyn: ambassador_ahab: alienated: Civil rights should never be put to a vote.

This is exactly what Judge Walker wrote in district court when it first struck down Prop. 8 in California.  That was the essence of his opinion:  marriage is a fundamental right, and you can't take those away with a vote.  Tyranny of the majority doesn't work in our country.

Yeah, but Judge Walker is a homo so his opinion shouldn't be allowed to matter. Or something like that. I'm a little rusty on my NOM talking points.


And i never did hear if your friend of the court paper made it in. i have no quick comeback to judge walker is a homo
 
2013-07-23 02:29:56 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: SpdrJay: But why would a gay person want to live in Ohio anyway?


/ewwwwww

The hope is we'll be able to live wherever we want in the states and have equal rights.


The hell you say! What next? Negroes can live anywhere they want? Marry white wimmen? VOTE?

You and your gays are going to open the floodgates.
 
2013-07-23 02:30:12 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Look, I know it's Buzzfeed and not real journalism, but when there's a story with major political implications, maybe your readers want to hear more about things like the court's reasons for making their decision and less about the personal lives of two random people we don't give a fark about?

I mean, there's a big difference between striking this on full faith and credit grounds (which higher courts have already rejected, see the most recent gay marriage ruling and concealed carry licenses) and striking it on equal protection grounds (which has some potential to actually stick).  Kind of an important part of the story.


The relevant part was already quoted upthread, but the Judge justified it that because Ohio has a precedent of honoring out-of-state marriages that wouldn't be possible in Ohio (such as marriages between first cousins and marriages involving minors) that homosexual marriages should be afforded the same rights.

Basically he said that if Ohio is going to accept as valid any marriage performed as valid in another state, they have to accept them all.
 
2013-07-23 02:32:13 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: SpdrJay: But why would a gay person want to live in Ohio anyway?


/ewwwwww

The hope is we'll be able to live wherever we want in the states and have equal rights.


I hope to be around to see that day. Stories like this give me hope that I will. I'd like to be able to dance with the grooms at my best friend's wedding reception someday.
 
2013-07-23 02:32:47 AM  
Does this mean I have to marry a man?
 
2013-07-23 02:32:53 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Oldiron_79: The existing SCOTUS precident is that states do NOT have to recognize types of licenses they do not issue(a precident that has been set in concealed carry license cases) so this judge will likely have his ruling smacked down by appeals court or SCOTUS

What is a license. Discuss.

 
2013-07-23 02:33:36 AM  

mediablitz: tinfoil-hat maggie: SpdrJay: But why would a gay person want to live in Ohio anyway?


/ewwwwww

The hope is we'll be able to live wherever we want in the states and have equal rights.

The hell you say! What next? Negroes can live anywhere they want? Marry white wimmen? VOTE?

You and your gays are going to open the floodgates.


Yes I know it's all use liberal progressives ruining everything .
/I my mind I typed that in a very southern accent : )
 
2013-07-23 02:33:54 AM  

ambassador_ahab: It begins!!!  It starts with a muslim-kenyan-socialist-fascist dictator that was only elected by voter intimidation.

Then we have the Windsor case, and now other federal judges have to respect the Windsor case because of some weird-ass rule B. Hussein Obama made about "binding precedent" whatever the fark that means...and it's like the farking dominoes are finally falling.  Would G. Walker Bush have allowed the liberal tyrants at the Supreme Court to destroy marriage?!  NO!  He would have used his VETO power!

It's time for your come to Jesus moment, libtards.


Everyone knows that B-Rock "The Islamic Shock" HUSSEIN Superallah Obama used his time machine (powered with the stem cells of aborted white babies) to go back to the 12th Century and impersonate Henry II to insert the idea of binding precedent into the common law system. He even called it "stare decisis", which is probably heathen-turban-wearing-camel-jockey-brown-people-speak for "Force gay Nazi commie Muslim sharia law marriages on everyone".

Just study it out.
 
2013-07-23 02:34:53 AM  

Jenna Tellya: Arigato godzaimas, Ohio!


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-23 02:35:20 AM  

GloomCookie613: tinfoil-hat maggie: SpdrJay: But why would a gay person want to live in Ohio anyway?


/ewwwwww

The hope is we'll be able to live wherever we want in the states and have equal rights.

I hope to be around to see that day. Stories like this give me hope that I will. I'd like to be able to dance with the grooms at my best friend's wedding reception someday.


I think it'll be sooner than you think.  A few more crushing defeats for the GOP in elections and they'll realize that the average citizen in the US is far more socially liberal than they currently believe.  If they stop ostracizing their own party members who stand up for civil liberties there will really be nothing stopping the movement.
 
2013-07-23 02:35:48 AM  

mediablitz: The hell you say! What next? Negroes can live anywhere they want? Marry white wimmen? VOTE?


Those successful and attractive african americans think they own this country!
 
2013-07-23 02:36:02 AM  

pootsie: If you are in favor of same-sex marriage, watch this video about the couple in this lawsuit.

But be sure to have the hankies handy

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130714/NEWS10/307140009/To-get- ma rried-they-left-Ohio?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p


Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu all the emotions.
 
2013-07-23 02:36:05 AM  

Notabunny: So is my opposite-sex marriage now destroyed, or am I now gay, or am I supposed to marry a turtle?


You're supposed to marry two girls if you're a guy, or a guy and a girl if you're a girl.
 
2013-07-23 02:37:49 AM  

Notabunny: So is my opposite-sex marriage now destroyed, or am I now gay, or am I supposed to marry a turtle?


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-23 02:37:52 AM  

twat_waffle: Everyone knows that B-Rock "The Islamic Shock" HUSSEIN Superallah Obama used his time machine


OK, you had me at "B-Rock".
 
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