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2013-07-22 04:32:41 PM  

I_C_Weener: sxacho: All I know about Ultron is from The Next Avengers movie. But in that, Tony Stark created him.

Given Stark's breakdowns in Ironman 3 and the ending, he's going to want to create a more independent version and let it do the heavy lifting...until it rebels.  That might work.


Not to mention that Tony has been working on AI from the beginning with Jarvis. It would add some emotional impact to the story if Ultron is the result of Jarvis becoming corrupted or becoming rampant somehow, because Jarvis has always been such an audience favorite. Tony being forced to take him down would be almost heartbreaking.
 
2013-07-22 04:35:05 PM  

Mad_Radhu: I_C_Weener: sxacho: All I know about Ultron is from The Next Avengers movie. But in that, Tony Stark created him.

Given Stark's breakdowns in Ironman 3 and the ending, he's going to want to create a more independent version and let it do the heavy lifting...until it rebels.  That might work.

Not to mention that Tony has been working on AI from the beginning with Jarvis. It would add some emotional impact to the story if Ultron is the result of Jarvis becoming corrupted or becoming rampant somehow, because Jarvis has always been such an audience favorite. Tony being forced to take him down would be almost heartbreaking.


That would be interesting; say someone's messing with Stark Tech which unleashes a bug/virus that creates Ultron perhaps?
 
2013-07-22 04:41:04 PM  

ParagonComplex: In their description of Hank Pym they left out the fact he's a wife beater. I wonder if that little aspect will make it to the movies. Rhetorical, of course it won't. They wouldn't even let Tony Stark be an alcoholic in the last movie.


Honestly it doesn't matter that much to anyone who reads the comics.  It was a thing that happened once, twenty years ago, and it was a slap.

http://www.jimshooter.com/2011/03/hank-pym-was-not-wife-beater.html
 
2013-07-22 04:44:03 PM  

Rwa2play: Mad_Radhu: I_C_Weener: sxacho: All I know about Ultron is from The Next Avengers movie. But in that, Tony Stark created him.

Given Stark's breakdowns in Ironman 3 and the ending, he's going to want to create a more independent version and let it do the heavy lifting...until it rebels.  That might work.

Not to mention that Tony has been working on AI from the beginning with Jarvis. It would add some emotional impact to the story if Ultron is the result of Jarvis becoming corrupted or becoming rampant somehow, because Jarvis has always been such an audience favorite. Tony being forced to take him down would be almost heartbreaking.

That would be interesting; say someone's messing with Stark Tech which unleashes a bug/virus that creates Ultron perhaps?



I hope they go another route.  I'd rather not startrekify the MCU Avengers and always have every story revolve around the same one or two characters.  Iron Man has a had a huge time in the sun for a while now, I'd rather for A2 and other non-IM films for him to ease back into a major supporting player rather than haveing everything be about him.
 
2013-07-22 04:51:26 PM  

Son of Thunder: I know I'm old and out of the loop, but what is this?

[cdn.uproxx.com image 335x210]

When did Ultron start looking like Ghost Rider had a baby with the machines from the Matrix?  THIS is Ultron:
[www.worthpoint.com image 200x374]


I was thinking the same thing.
 
2013-07-22 04:51:40 PM  
You know what we need?

upload.wikimedia.org

We need that. Make it happen.
 
2013-07-22 04:55:19 PM  

jaybeezey: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dog Welder: RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?

While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.

No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.

Close, but no banana. You're thinking of Elton John. Ultron is that giant anime robot from the '80s that made out  5 diffrent colored robot lions. It was a good cartoon for its time, but it doesn't well anymore and i don't why Whedon would be dipping into anime when he has a lot to work with from the Avenger's catalog.


No, no, no. That version of Ultron will never work. I mean, for Chrissake, how are you going to hide a giant anime robot made out of five different colored robot lions in an attic? I mean, you'd have to be deaf like Daredevil to not hear them clomping around.
The Ultron to which the thread refers is clearly the DS3 Cabrio, in which the Avengers will all try to cram themselves, after which Richard Hammond will try to beat The Stig, packed in an Opel Adam with the 2013 British and Irish Lions, around our test track. But first, James May knits a doily...again.
 
2013-07-22 04:56:35 PM  

BafflerMeal: ParagonComplex: In their description of Hank Pym they left out the fact he's a wife beater. I wonder if that little aspect will make it to the movies. Rhetorical, of course it won't. They wouldn't even let Tony Stark be an alcoholic in the last movie.

Honestly it doesn't matter that much to anyone who reads the comics.  It was a thing that happened once, twenty years ago, and it was a slap.

http://www.jimshooter.com/2011/03/hank-pym-was-not-wife-beater.html


Doesn't matter that much?

It's the only thing he's remembered for!

Mark Millar made him King Wife Beater in the Ultimates!

Brian Bendis made him "guy whose opinion never mattered because he was a wife beater" in Avengers!

Hank Pym's entire existence is summed up as "WIFE BEATER (and created Ultron)."
 
2013-07-22 04:58:44 PM  

Bareefer Obonghit: Ant-Man is getting a movie in 2015. It will be out after Avengers 2, and Pym is not responsible for the creation of Ultron in the movie universe.


Given that the whole thing about Hank Pym is that he's a straight-up mad scientist that sometimes does the most harm when he's trying to do good, this disappoints me severely.  Mainly because it means that they're going to try to make him a straightforward protagonist, which just ruins it.

He's sort of the anti-Stark.  Stark has the one big invention (the infinite-energy reactor) that spins off into a bunch of other random devices that seem like logical extensions of the reactor tech.  He has antisocial tendencies (most notably the womanizing and the alcoholism) but sort of struggles through to be more or less a hero, and underneath it all is a core of steadfast, iron-willed heroism.

Pym, by contrast, knows a bit of every subject and one day is researching subatomic physics and the next making a device to talk to farking ants.  He can't hold a superhero name down for more than a few years (ant man, giant man, etc).  Unlike Stark, he really  wants to be a hero, and is obsessive about proving his heroism, giving Superman a run for his money on high-horse moralizing and so on... but underneath it all, he is  literally insane.  His attempts at reforming captured villains with science make Hitler and Menegle look like reasonable dudes, he's willing to stage destructive supervillain bouts to keep himself in action, and his experiments have a history of going horribly, horribly right, farking everyone over by working just a little too well.

Basically, if you're going to stick with the simplistic black-and-white bullshiat the Marvel and DC movie properties have been feeding us, Pym should be a villain, albeit more the 'misguided' variety than the outright evil.
 
2013-07-22 04:59:42 PM  

Kinek: You know what we need?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x455]

We need that. Make it happen.


No, we need this:
www.liveforfilms.com
 
2013-07-22 05:03:23 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Hank Pym's entire existence is summed up as "WIFE BEATER (and created Ultron)."


Which is a bit odd, given that he was married to someone with innate superpowers who gets punched a lot harder all the time by people intending serious harm and doesn't really give a shiat.  Superheroes get mind-controlled or have breakdowns and knock each other around all the time, usually they cry a bit about it if that before shrugging and going back to the status quo.
 
2013-07-22 05:03:56 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Kinek: You know what we need?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x455]

We need that. Make it happen.

No, we need this:
[www.liveforfilms.com image 300x285]


Butbutbut Frog of thunder!
 
2013-07-22 05:11:33 PM  

Kinek: Butbutbut Frog of thunder!


Heh.  Butt Frog.
 
2013-07-22 05:12:23 PM  

FunkyBlue: Gergesa: My feeling is that they are rushing to do Ultron a bit too fast.   I think he could use some more foreshadowing.  Nothing too heavy but some hints here and there during the 2nd film that lead to the third one.

Weren't they working on an Ant-Man movie? Might be a good place to put that.


Yes they are.  I don't think they've started production just yet, but I remember the guy that directed (and wrote I believe) Shaun of the Dead is directing it, and doing some of the screenplay as well.
 
2013-07-22 05:17:06 PM  
Wake me when the make the Secret Wars into a movie. I know in today's mythology that would be like Big Brother with superheroes but it still would be pretty cool. Plus, I could finally dump my first edition run of the books for a high payout.
 
2013-07-22 05:23:48 PM  

Latinwolf: simplicimus: I didn't know who Whiplash or whatever his name was before Ironman 2.
Isn't Scott Summers father one of the Guardians, or is that some other interstellar group?

mediablitz: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

I was a big comic book fan 69-73. The Vision being a personal favorite. Did not know this until reading the Ultron Wiki.

If you were a comic fan from 1969-1973 and also liked the Vision, how could you not already know this when it was explained in his first appearance and then also in the story arc where Ultron got his adamantium body?


How about I probably DID know this at one time, but we are talking 40 years ago? I was a HUGE Incredible Hulk and Daredevil fan too. Don't ask me to detail any plot lines.
 
2013-07-22 05:28:27 PM  

mediablitz: Latinwolf: simplicimus: I didn't know who Whiplash or whatever his name was before Ironman 2.
Isn't Scott Summers father one of the Guardians, or is that some other interstellar group?

mediablitz: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

I was a big comic book fan 69-73. The Vision being a personal favorite. Did not know this until reading the Ultron Wiki.

If you were a comic fan from 1969-1973 and also liked the Vision, how could you not already know this when it was explained in his first appearance and then also in the story arc where Ultron got his adamantium body?

How about I probably DID know this at one time, but we are talking 40 years ago? I was a HUGE Incredible Hulk and Daredevil fan too. Don't ask me to detail any plot lines.


With the Hulk alone it's a clusterfark.
 
2013-07-22 05:28:50 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Kinek: Butbutbut Frog of thunder!

Heh.  Butt Frog.


Whenever I fart now, it will be a Butt Frog of thunder.
 
2013-07-22 05:30:21 PM  

mediablitz: How about I probably DID know this at one time, but we are talking 40 years ago? I was a HUGE Incredible Hulk and Daredevil fan too. Don't ask me to detail any plot lines.


Wait... Hulk had more than one plot-line prior to the 1980s?

I was like 90% sure he just had the one: "Banner rides into town, there is a conspiracy of some kind (from local criminal to national military in range, and sometimes targeting Banner, sometimes him just being in the middle of it through bad luck), some punk makes him angry, conspiracy left shattered and at least nominally solved, hulk rides off into the sunset followed by black helicopters at a discreet distance".

I mean, Hulk was basically The Man with No Name: now with extra green and grey ink!!!
 
2013-07-22 05:32:23 PM  
I think Ultron being created by Stark would work pretty well for the movie universe.
 
2013-07-22 05:33:54 PM  
Why is everyone assuming this is Hank Pym in Ant Man? What about Eric O'Grady?

I'm miffed b/c Hank is definitely a new type of character, a seething narcissist w/ a huge chip on his shoulder, yet instead of going the easy way and becoming a super villain, he tries to be the hero. Granted, his "oopsie daisies" cause more mayhem and destruction than anyone not named Doom or Banner, but that makes his struggle to save the day more poignant. Probably have to tone down the wife beating though, that's not going to go over well w/ anybody.
 
2013-07-22 05:34:03 PM  

Jim_Callahan: mediablitz: How about I probably DID know this at one time, but we are talking 40 years ago? I was a HUGE Incredible Hulk and Daredevil fan too. Don't ask me to detail any plot lines.

Wait... Hulk had more than one plot-line prior to the 1980s?

I was like 90% sure he just had the one: "Banner rides into town, there is a conspiracy of some kind (from local criminal to national military in range, and sometimes targeting Banner, sometimes him just being in the middle of it through bad luck), some punk makes him angry, conspiracy left shattered and at least nominally solved, hulk rides off into the sunset followed by black helicopters at a discreet distance".

I mean, Hulk was basically The Man with No Name: now with extra green and grey ink!!!


No, that was the TV storyline.

The comics were General Ross plotting to destroy the Hulk, because reasons, the Army or another superhero fighting Hulk, and Hulk screaming "HULK SMASH PUNY HUMANS! WHY PUNY HUMANS NO LEAVE HULK ALONE?!" before leaping away.
 
2013-07-22 05:45:23 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Ultron is a metal guy created by Hank Pym.

Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

Also, Ultron's evility led in part to Hank Pym doing a concerto in fist minor on Jan's face.


Did you come up with that phrase?
Cuz, yeah, I'm so gonna steal that. I'm gonna tweak it to say, 'A symphony on his face; a concerto in fist minor".
 
2013-07-22 05:45:39 PM  

Trocadero: Why is everyone assuming this is Hank Pym in Ant Man? What about Eric O'Grady?

I'm miffed b/c Hank is definitely a new type of character, a seething narcissist w/ a huge chip on his shoulder, yet instead of going the easy way and becoming a super villain, he tries to be the hero. Granted, his "oopsie daisies" cause more mayhem and destruction than anyone not named Doom or Banner, but that makes his struggle to save the day more poignant. Probably have to tone down the wife beating though, that's not going to go over well w/ anybody.


Don't forget Richards.  If there's one man that'd give him a run for the money on the "oops I -- the whole world" it's Reed.  That man's more trouble than Magneto.  Wouldn't it be a great surprise if they made Mr. Fantastic the creator of Ultron, which sparks a fight between the FF and Avengers, ending in a "oops, it was all a mistake" before getting together to stomp robots?  Well, except for the part where the FF is in it, it'd be cool...
 
2013-07-22 05:50:40 PM  

Hector Remarkable: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron is a metal guy created by Hank Pym.

Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

Also, Ultron's evility led in part to Hank Pym doing a concerto in fist minor on Jan's face.

Did you come up with that phrase?
Cuz, yeah, I'm so gonna steal that. I'm gonna tweak it to say, 'A symphony on his face; a concerto in fist minor".


After a quick google search, I found no hits,so I guess I did come up with it.

Add to it what you like.
 
2013-07-22 05:57:44 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.

I had no clue what a chitauri was going into Avengers 1 and I still enjoyed the hell out of the movie. I don't know who Ultron is, yet I still want to see Avengers 2.

Who said you need to have an extensive knowledge of the Marvel universe to enjoy their movies?


This: dammit folks you don't have to know Everything, just make it interesting and people will follow it.
 
2013-07-22 05:58:36 PM  

ParagonComplex: In their description of Hank Pym they left out the fact he's a wife beater. I wonder if that little aspect will make it to the movies. Rhetorical, of course it won't. They wouldn't even let Tony Stark be an alcoholic in the last movie.


They shouldn't have made him feel small
 
2013-07-22 05:58:46 PM  

verbaltoxin: Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.


I wouldn't rule it out yet. With Guardians of the Galaxy happening soon, I think it's not too far fetched to say that it's probably in the film canon's future at some point.
 
2013-07-22 06:00:09 PM  
I thought Dr. Who took care of Ultron?
doctorwhotoys.net
 
2013-07-22 06:04:31 PM  
images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-07-22 06:13:10 PM  

BafflerMeal: [images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 533x800]


I remember that storyline, they had to go get Pym and find him about to fark Tigra. Although at the time, that was really a Skrull acting as Pym.
 
2013-07-22 06:19:49 PM  
Screw who the villain is, I just want to know when Batman is going to be on screen with the avengers.
 
2013-07-22 06:19:54 PM  
www.spburke.com
This guy?
 
2013-07-22 06:21:32 PM  

grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]


How about no.


now this:
img109.imageshack.us
 
2013-07-22 06:22:25 PM  

0100010: Trocadero: Why is everyone assuming this is Hank Pym in Ant Man? What about Eric O'Grady?

I'm miffed b/c Hank is definitely a new type of character, a seething narcissist w/ a huge chip on his shoulder, yet instead of going the easy way and becoming a super villain, he tries to be the hero. Granted, his "oopsie daisies" cause more mayhem and destruction than anyone not named Doom or Banner, but that makes his struggle to save the day more poignant. Probably have to tone down the wife beating though, that's not going to go over well w/ anybody.

Don't forget Richards.  If there's one man that'd give him a run for the money on the "oops I -- the whole world" it's Reed.  That man's more trouble than Magneto.  Wouldn't it be a great surprise if they made Mr. Fantastic the creator of Ultron, which sparks a fight between the FF and Avengers, ending in a "oops, it was all a mistake" before getting together to stomp robots?  Well, except for the part where the FF is in it, it'd be cool...


Except that currently Sony owns the rights to any FF, silver surfer, and doom so they cant appear in any disney films?

/movie rights are tearing this family multiverse apart!
 
2013-07-22 06:23:25 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]

How about no.


now this:
[img109.imageshack.us image 500x626]


1: Wow! Who is that?
2: That's gotta be a shoop, that's one hell of a waist to hip ratio.
 
2013-07-22 06:26:59 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: 1: Wow! Who is that?
2: That's gotta be a shoop, that's one hell of a waist to hip ratio.


img22.imageshack.us
img543.imageshack.us
 
2013-07-22 06:27:13 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Son of Thunder: I know I'm old and out of the loop, but what is this?

[cdn.uproxx.com image 335x210]

When did Ultron start looking like Ghost Rider had a baby with the machines from the Matrix?  THIS is Ultron:
[www.worthpoint.com image 200x374]

What number is he up to these days? I remember Ultron-6 and -7.

I don't know if they number him anymore, but he was up to Ultron 16 and 17 in 1999.


There was a storyline in the early 2000s where Ultron took over a country and made hundreds or thousands of himself. So I think it's around 4-5000 or so.
 
2013-07-22 06:30:43 PM  
" I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?"

Real sad that Stephanie Szotak didn't get the part to play Wasp.
She was hot as Agent Brandt in Iron Man but she was smoking as Julia, Ryan's wife in RIPD
media.comicbookmovie.com
 
2013-07-22 06:32:53 PM  

Neeek: There was a storyline in the early 2000s where Ultron took over a country and made hundreds or thousands of himself. So I think it's around 4-5000 or so.


Then there's the whole issue of time travel created clones of Ultron...
 
2013-07-22 06:35:03 PM  
Honestly I'd just like to have the modern Ares join up as a counterbalance to Thor

/the Marvel Dark Reign Ares comic is transcendent.

i731.photobucket.com
i731.photobucket.com
static.comicvine.com
 
2013-07-22 06:39:38 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Hector Remarkable: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron is a metal guy created by Hank Pym.

Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

Also, Ultron's evility led in part to Hank Pym doing a concerto in fist minor on Jan's face.

Did you come up with that phrase?
Cuz, yeah, I'm so gonna steal that. I'm gonna tweak it to say, 'A symphony on his face; a concerto in fist minor".

After a quick google search, I found no hits,so I guess I did come up with it.

Add to it what you like.



Glad that's settled.  I'm gonna co-opt Butt-Frog.
 
2013-07-22 06:43:32 PM  

Optimal_Illusion: I'm gonna co-opt Butt-Frog.


Butt-Frog, the newest comic sensation, watch as he delivers a concerto in fist minor right in a crook's jimmies, followed by a short jazz number by colon cornet in their faces.
 
2013-07-22 06:44:51 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Dingleberry Dickwad: 1: Wow! Who is that?
2: That's gotta be a shoop, that's one hell of a waist to hip ratio.

[img22.imageshack.us image 850x1275]
[img543.imageshack.us image 720x960]


Very nice. Still don't know who she is so I can stalk her, but at least her waist looks normal. Maybe it was just the shadows in the other pic. Still very hot though.
 
2013-07-22 06:47:57 PM  
Just as long as this happens

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-22 06:51:44 PM  

Phaeon: Just as long as this happens

[25.media.tumblr.com image 850x604]



An Escher-esque, bent-handled Mjolnir?  Or a Captain America with no shoulders?

/i keed
 
2013-07-22 06:57:36 PM  

BafflerMeal: Phaeon: Just as long as this happens

[25.media.tumblr.com image 850x604]


An Escher-esque, bent-handled Mjolnir?  Or a Captain America with no shoulders?

/i keed


Cap started working out differently after he saw this in the mirror:

www.anawfulart.com


/now I can't un-see what you pointed in my first pic
 
2013-07-22 07:05:35 PM  

RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?


Has anyone, anywhere, EVER thought this farking meme was funny?

I'd rather pizza-god-damn-jedi in here making the 'stomping shiat down the drain' 'golf ball dimpler' and 'if you know what I mean' memes.

I'd rather have meowthegoddamndog in here making retarded armenian speech.
 
2013-07-22 07:31:54 PM  

1000 Ways to Dye: [www.spburke.com image 500x325]
This guy?


Came for this....

/leaving satisfied
 
2013-07-22 07:46:16 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: BafflerMeal: ParagonComplex: In their description of Hank Pym they left out the fact he's a wife beater. I wonder if that little aspect will make it to the movies. Rhetorical, of course it won't. They wouldn't even let Tony Stark be an alcoholic in the last movie.

Honestly it doesn't matter that much to anyone who reads the comics.  It was a thing that happened once, twenty years ago, and it was a slap.

http://www.jimshooter.com/2011/03/hank-pym-was-not-wife-beater.html

Doesn't matter that much?

It's the only thing he's remembered for!

Mark Millar made him King Wife Beater in the Ultimates!

Brian Bendis made him "guy whose opinion never mattered because he was a wife beater" in Avengers!

Hank Pym's entire existence is summed up as "WIFE BEATER (and created Ultron)."


Do you still have that "slap a biatch" pic of Pym getting slap happy?

Also, let it be known that Reed Richards beats his wife more than Pym ever struck Janet. He needs to call Dr. Light to join a support group for people that can't live down ONE incident.
 
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