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2013-07-22 03:08:49 PM  

Gergesa: My feeling is that they are rushing to do Ultron a bit too fast.   I think he could use some more foreshadowing.  Nothing too heavy but some hints here and there during the 2nd film that lead to the third one.


Hints and foreshadowing? No time. You get 3 Avengers movies with the cast everyone cares about and that's it. No time for subtlety. Loki, Ultron, Thanos, and see ya later.
 
2013-07-22 03:10:35 PM  

Walker: I think the bigger question is "Who the f*ck are the Guardians of the Galaxy"? If the people who greenlit that think it's gonna be a success I have a bridge to sell them. Yes, fanboys know who they are, but you need a large majority of the people to know who they are and have a burning desire to go see it. More people know who Green Lantern is and how did that film work out? Ghost Rider? Elektra? Catwoman? All more well known than the Guardians of the Galaxy.


Here's the thing -- if you make a good movie, people will go see it.  That's how sci-fi / fantasy movies work.

No one knew who the Na'vi were when Avatar came out.  No one knew what the term "inception" meant when Inception came out.  No one knew who Neo was when the Matrix came out.  No one knew what the Force was when the first Star Wars came out in 1977.

If you have good writing, good acting, good directing, and good special effects -- people will see your movie, even if it does have a talking raccoon in it.  If you have crap writing, crap acting, crap directing, and crap special effects, having the Silver Surfer in your movie isn't going to save it.
 
2013-07-22 03:10:38 PM  

mediablitz: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

I was a big comic book fan 69-73. The Vision being a personal favorite. Did not know this until reading the Ultron Wiki.


Surely you don't mean to say that people will go out and read about things that seem interesting, do you?
 
2013-07-22 03:12:29 PM  
So if this is the case, why was Thanatos (sp?) shown at the end of Avengers 1?
 
2013-07-22 03:15:55 PM  

OldRod: So if this is the case, why was Thanatos (sp?) shown at the end of Avengers 1?


They covered this in the article:

It's Thanos, and we don't know but given the results of the early MCU it'll be AWESOME.
 
2013-07-22 03:19:25 PM  
All I know about Ultron is from The Next Avengers movie. But in that, Tony Stark created him.
 
2013-07-22 03:19:42 PM  
Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.
 
2013-07-22 03:27:19 PM  
I'm guessing that they will handle Pym with it being some mystery at the end of the movie as to where Ultron came from. Cue the after credits scene of Pym to foreshadow the Ant man movie.
 
2013-07-22 03:28:53 PM  

sxacho: All I know about Ultron is from The Next Avengers movie. But in that, Tony Stark created him.


Given Stark's breakdowns in Ironman 3 and the ending, he's going to want to create a more independent version and let it do the heavy lifting...until it rebels.  That might work.
 
2013-07-22 03:29:25 PM  

meanmutton: Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.

The vast majority of people who went to see Avengers didn't read the comic books.


The vast majority of people in this thread also didn't read my follow up, where I explained it was a dig on the article, not on who will or won't see Avengers 2.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2013-07-22 03:30:42 PM  

NewbornRook: Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that you would have Ultron, who was created by Hank Pym, and you know, not have Hank Pym...but I suppose if they are doing it Age of Ultron comic style...


They said it will have nothing to do with the current series, it just shares the name.

Ant-Man is scheduled to be released after Avengers 2.  So the way I see it, they can introduce Pym in Avengers 2, have him create Ultron, have Ultron go berserk and want to kill all flesh, etc etc.  Then, after Avengers, we can have a teaser trailer showing Pym growing into Giant Man...then shrinking down to Ant-Man and a "whoops..." to the delight of the crowd.
 
2013-07-22 03:31:32 PM  

mediablitz: NewbornRook: scottydoesntknow: mediablitz: scottydoesntknow: Son of Thunder: So does that mean we will get Hank Pym?

Nope. They specifically said he will not be in it.

Has his own movie in the works.

Is he owned by Marvel or one of the other studios? If he is, I'm surprised they aren't including him.

Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that you would have Ultron, who was created by Hank Pym, and you know, not have Hank Pym...but I suppose if they are doing it Age of Ultron comic style...

****SPOILERS******

****SPOLIERS*****


Maybe it will tie in somehow with Wolverine and Sue Storm traveling back in time to kill him.

Whedon says you don't need Hank Pym


Hawkeye, on the other hand, is completely indisposable.
 
2013-07-22 03:31:47 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dog Welder: RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?

While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.

No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.


I've no idea if it was intentional, but you pretty much just described the plot of Mayhem of the Music Meister from season 1 of Batman: the Brave and the Bold.
 
2013-07-22 03:32:33 PM  
lparchive.org
 
2013-07-22 03:33:35 PM  
Avengers 2 will be about Ultron?

www.fedupusa.org

I'd much rather see a take on this:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-22 03:34:16 PM  

MBK: NewbornRook: Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that you would have Ultron, who was created by Hank Pym, and you know, not have Hank Pym...but I suppose if they are doing it Age of Ultron comic style...

They said it will have nothing to do with the current series, it just shares the name.

Ant-Man is scheduled to be released after Avengers 2.  So the way I see it, they can introduce Pym in Avengers 2, have him create Ultron, have Ultron go berserk and want to kill all flesh, etc etc.  Then, after Avengers, we can have a teaser trailer showing Pym growing into Giant Man...then shrinking down to Ant-Man and a "whoops..." to the delight of the crowd.


After looking up some other articles it seems it's just a shared title and whole new take on the origin of Ultron. But, I'm still looking forward to it.
 
2013-07-22 03:34:22 PM  

Dr. Whoof: meanmutton: Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.

The vast majority of people who went to see Avengers didn't read the comic books.

The vast majority of people in this thread also didn't read my follow up, where I explained it was a dig on the article, not on who will or won't see Avengers 2.


Fair enough.
 
2013-07-22 03:35:29 PM  

jaybeezey: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dog Welder: RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?

While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.

No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.

Close, but no banana. You're thinking of Elton John. Ultron is that giant anime robot from the '80s that made out  5 diffrent colored robot lions. It was a good cartoon for its time, but it doesn't well anymore and i don't why Whedon would be dipping into anime when he has a lot to work with from the Avenger's catalog.


So close, but you are thinking of Bolton who was giant robot made out of twenty or so cars and planes in Space!!

Ultron I think is an easy listening music singer. Yeah, Michael Ultron.
 
2013-07-22 03:35:45 PM  

NewbornRook: MBK: NewbornRook: Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that you would have Ultron, who was created by Hank Pym, and you know, not have Hank Pym...but I suppose if they are doing it Age of Ultron comic style...

They said it will have nothing to do with the current series, it just shares the name.

Ant-Man is scheduled to be released after Avengers 2.  So the way I see it, they can introduce Pym in Avengers 2, have him create Ultron, have Ultron go berserk and want to kill all flesh, etc etc.  Then, after Avengers, we can have a teaser trailer showing Pym growing into Giant Man...then shrinking down to Ant-Man and a "whoops..." to the delight of the crowd.

After looking up some other articles it seems it's just a shared title and whole new take on the origin of Ultron. But, I'm still looking forward to it.


Or, knowing Marvel, they knew Avengers 2 was going to be Age of Ultron, and slapped the name on a comic series to sell books to those who don't know any better when the movie comes out.
 
2013-07-22 03:36:34 PM  
And this is why every Batman reboot has to do an origin story. So, Vin Diesel as Man Ape for the Black Panther movie?
 
2013-07-22 03:36:58 PM  

verbaltoxin: Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.


If they play their cards right, Thanos will be such a bigger bad, that it will require the Avengers, X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and even Spiderman, Daredevil, Ghostrider, Blade, the Fantastic Four, and Punisher to help beat him.

/I just came
 
2013-07-22 03:39:01 PM  
Also if Fox is doing a Days of Future Past with the X-Men, they really shouldn't do an Ultron movie.  It'll be too similar to each other... heroes have to battle android(s) to save the world.
 
2013-07-22 03:40:46 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: NewbornRook: MBK: NewbornRook: Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that you would have Ultron, who was created by Hank Pym, and you know, not have Hank Pym...but I suppose if they are doing it Age of Ultron comic style...

They said it will have nothing to do with the current series, it just shares the name.

Ant-Man is scheduled to be released after Avengers 2.  So the way I see it, they can introduce Pym in Avengers 2, have him create Ultron, have Ultron go berserk and want to kill all flesh, etc etc.  Then, after Avengers, we can have a teaser trailer showing Pym growing into Giant Man...then shrinking down to Ant-Man and a "whoops..." to the delight of the crowd.

After looking up some other articles it seems it's just a shared title and whole new take on the origin of Ultron. But, I'm still looking forward to it.

Or, knowing Marvel, they knew Avengers 2 was going to be Age of Ultron, and slapped the name on a comic series to sell books to those who don't know any better when the movie comes out.


Entirely possible and the most likely scenario.
 
2013-07-22 03:41:15 PM  
I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
ts2.mm.bing.net
 
2013-07-22 03:43:49 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: verbaltoxin: Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.

If they play their cards right, Thanos will be such a bigger bad, that it will require the Avengers, X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and even Spiderman, Daredevil, Ghostrider, Blade, the Fantastic Four, and Punisher to help beat him.

/I just came


Throw in the Justice League and Luke Skywalker and Patton Oswalt will look like a genius.
 
2013-07-22 03:44:54 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dog Welder: RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?

While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.

No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.


I'm fairly sure you're talking about Olivia Ultron-John, who co-starred with L. Ron Hubbard in Grease.  This movie will be about Ultron Brown, who will take command of all the kitchens of Earth and demand that people really get anal about their cooking and baking.  Everyone will be issued an Ultron-Oven thermometer.
 
2013-07-22 03:45:08 PM  

grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]


Can she take a punch?
 
2013-07-22 03:45:17 PM  

grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]


Oh man, I would hit that harder than Hank Pym would...

static.comicvine.com
/just not the same way, and I know you know what I mean
 
2013-07-22 03:45:54 PM  
Learn2searchengine, smitty!

Sure, I recognize that not everyone is a Hank Pym fanboy like me. But displays of willful ignorance in the era of Google/Bing/Uranus are just sad. Educate yourself, fool! Then submit a post asking a more educated question, like "Hank Pym is getting his own movie too. AWESOME, AMIRITE???"

/see?
//that's how you do it
///no real mean-mugging going on here
////just slashies and nerd love
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2013-07-22 03:45:59 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: verbaltoxin: Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.

If they play their cards right, Thanos will be such a bigger bad, that it will require the Avengers, X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and even Spiderman, Daredevil, Ghostrider, Blade, the Fantastic Four, and Punisher to help beat him.

/I just came


Fox owns X-Men and Fantastic Four (I think).  Sony owns Spiderman.  No one wants Daredevil or Blade.  So unless Marvel is going to pony up billions to buy back the rights, or Sony and Fox decide they hate making money hand over fist and stop making X-Men and Spiderman movies, it won't happen.
 
2013-07-22 03:46:48 PM  

PsyLord: grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]

Oh man, I would hit that harder than Hank Pym would...

[static.comicvine.com image 410x349]
/just not the same way, and I know you know what I mean


I never understood why Jan could get the hell beaten out of her by Ultron and look like she spent a day at the spa, but one slap from Hank and she looks like she was the guest of honor at a blanket party.
 
2013-07-22 03:48:48 PM  

MBK: Kangaroo_Ralph: verbaltoxin: Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.

If they play their cards right, Thanos will be such a bigger bad, that it will require the Avengers, X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and even Spiderman, Daredevil, Ghostrider, Blade, the Fantastic Four, and Punisher to help beat him.

/I just came

Fox owns X-Men and Fantastic Four (I think).  Sony owns Spiderman.  No one wants Daredevil or Blade.  So unless Marvel is going to pony up billions to buy back the rights, or Sony and Fox decide they hate making money hand over fist and stop making X-Men and Spiderman movies, it won't happen.


If they all can't collaborate on a movie, perhaps what they will do is sorta like a cross-over like in the comics.  Have the main event happen at Marvel with side action with the other studios.
 
2013-07-22 03:50:59 PM  

Senordos13: [lparchive.org image 800x600]


We have worn the mask of shame ever since breaking it!
 
2013-07-22 03:51:33 PM  

PsyLord: /just not the same way, and I know you know what I mean


You prefer to use your right hand?
 
2013-07-22 03:52:34 PM  
Since there seems to be a lot of confusion here, I figured I'd compile some information about the future of the Marvel movie universe:

Upcoming movies:
Black Panther is probably getting a movie. Not before Avengers 2, but almost definitely after. His country sits on the largest Vibranium depository in the world, so he may play a role / be foreshadowed / introduced in Avengers 2.

Ant-Man is getting a movie in 2015. It will be out after Avengers 2, and Pym is not responsible for the creation of Ultron in the movie universe.

Doctor Strange is likely for 2016, but all of the speculation that it would be announced at SDCC was wrong. So it's still speculation. I'd suspect that they bumped Doctor Stange for Guardians of the Galaxy as they really want to build as much hype for this new & different direction they're taking. On a side note, they seem to be nailing the hell out of it from everything I've seen/heard from SDCC.

Other Stuff:
It seems as though Marvel is setting up Thanos as the villain for Avengers 3, after introducing him in Guardians of the Galaxy. Kevin Feige of Marvel explained that he is in the movie as a mastermind and they're setting him up for a 'long long time'. Meaning for Avengers 3. Basically that means that the post-credits scene of Avengers was a lead-in to Guardians which will see them battling him / his cronies in an attempt to stop him before making his way to Earth.

Kevin Feige also hinted that Vin Diesel could be Luke Cage. Not Vision. Or Ultron. Or Thanos. But that seemed way too direct a quote without it being an actual announcement, so I'd still lean toward him being Vision or Thanos. Also, wouldn't they want someone more, you know, black to play Luke Cage since right now they have the White Power Avengers at full strength?

His mention of a street-level marvel world in the future would make sense with them regaining the rights to Daredevil and saying as much.

Other than that, I'd expect at least one or two cameos / surprises. I think the most unlikely-but-not-totally-out-of-the-question is Spider-man appearing with the Avengers someday. Beyond Andrew Garfield reading comics, which means nothing, Avi Arad's comments at the end of the article are what are really intriguing. Possibly after they establish these other characters as kind of a New Avengers once the original Avengers trilogy is out of the way. I could see Avengers 3 being a passing of the torch kind of deal so these young folks could movie them into the future.
 
2013-07-22 03:54:25 PM  

Bareefer Obonghit: Stuff


Threw away the link to Black Panther. Here's the important part from the article:

Marvel's Chief Creative Office Joe Quesada comes to Comic-Con every year for the Cup O' Joe Q&A session, and he answered a very leading question about future Marvel characters with a very intriguing answer. Asked if development of standalone movies for characters like Thor and Captain America would lead to a "minority property" making its way to the screen, Quesada said simply "yes." The intrepid fan clarified, "Like, you think it might happen or it will happen?" and Quesada said, definitively,"It will happen." It takes a whole lot less than that to get crowds at Comic-Con excited, so you know that Quesada knew exactly what he was doing when making a specific promise like that.
 
2013-07-22 03:54:31 PM  

grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]


Oooh, nice.

Esp. if they do the kinky shrink scene w/ Pym.
 
2013-07-22 03:55:00 PM  

MBK: Fox owns X-Men and Fantastic Four (I think). Sony owns Spiderman. No one wants Daredevil or Blade. So unless Marvel is going to pony up billions to buy back the rights, or Sony and Fox decide they hate making money hand over fist and stop making X-Men and Spiderman movies, it won't happen.


For Xmen buy the rights to the DC knockoff version and then for FF just create the Fabulous Five.  Then create a character named Sorny that has spider powers.
 
2013-07-22 03:59:37 PM  

grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]


I'd let her sting me...
 
2013-07-22 04:00:31 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dog Welder: RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?

While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.

No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.

I'm fairly sure you're talking about Olivia Ultron-John, who co-starred with L. Ron Hubbard in Grease.  This movie will be about Ultron Brown, who will take command of all the kitchens of Earth and demand that people really get anal about their cooking, baking and sex.Everyone will be issued an Ultron-Oven thermometer.


FTFY
 
2013-07-22 04:01:45 PM  

grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]


I really, REALLY wish they'd have continued 'V'. She was amazingly hot.
 
2013-07-22 04:10:51 PM  

Mikey1969: grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]

I really, REALLY wish they'd have continued 'V'. She was amazingly hot.


Watch Homeland on Showtime and get your fix... even boobiez!  And yes, she is amazingly hot.
 
2013-07-22 04:14:42 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.

I had no clue what a chitauri was going into Avengers 1 and I still enjoyed the hell out of the movie. I don't know who Ultron is, yet I still want to see Avengers 2.

Who said you need to have an extensive knowledge of the Marvel universe to enjoy their movies?


This.
 
2013-07-22 04:15:38 PM  
 
2013-07-22 04:17:45 PM  

I_C_Weener: sxacho: All I know about Ultron is from The Next Avengers movie. But in that, Tony Stark created him.

Given Stark's breakdowns in Ironman 3 and the ending, he's going to want to create a more independent version and let it do the heavy lifting...until it rebels.  That might work.


Given that there was an IM storyline about one of his suits gaining sentience and battling Tony on a remote island, yeah, it'll work.
 
2013-07-22 04:18:43 PM  
You know what I want to see in the next Marvel Cinema movie? Hugh Jackman walking in the background, slightly out of focus, using some flaming debris to light a cigar and have that cigar snatched out his hand by a web shot by someone off screen. Just like 7 seconds. Just enough to cause $200,000 per hour worth of lawyers heads to explode.
 
2013-07-22 04:19:21 PM  

simplicimus: I didn't know who Whiplash or whatever his name was before Ironman 2.
Isn't Scott Summers father one of the Guardians, or is that some other interstellar group?


mediablitz: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

I was a big comic book fan 69-73. The Vision being a personal favorite. Did not know this until reading the Ultron Wiki.


If you were a comic fan from 1969-1973 and also liked the Vision, how could you not already know this when it was explained in his first appearance and then also in the story arc where Ultron got his adamantium body?
 
2013-07-22 04:22:16 PM  

MBK: Kangaroo_Ralph: verbaltoxin: Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.

If they play their cards right, Thanos will be such a bigger bad, that it will require the Avengers, X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and even Spiderman, Daredevil, Ghostrider, Blade, the Fantastic Four, and Punisher to help beat him.

/I just came

Fox owns X-Men and Fantastic Four (I think).  Sony owns Spiderman.  No one wants Daredevil or Blade.  So unless Marvel is going to pony up billions to buy back the rights, or Sony and Fox decide they hate making money hand over fist and stop making X-Men and Spiderman movies, it won't happen.


Studios have teamed up before for productions like Titanic, so they could theoretically do it if they co-produced the movies and then had then take turns relasing the movies. For example, you could take a page out of the comic crossovers and have a Spiderman movie kick off the storyline in a late April or early May release, have the middle movie cover the X-Men's involvement over Memorial Day, then wrap up the story in an Avengers movie over July 4th. Each studio gets a movie and in the process makes more money off their part of the crossover than they would have had with an unrelated stand alone movie, so everyone wins.

Unfortunately, because of the egos involved, the studios are leaving money on the table. You have the potential for three guaranteed $1 billion plus worldwide blockbusters instead of the smaller blockbusters Sony and Fox have been getting with their Marvel properties (ASM brought in $750 million, which is nothing to sneeze at but compared to Iron Man 3 it is not so impressive).
 
2013-07-22 04:24:15 PM  
In their description of Hank Pym they left out the fact he's a wife beater. I wonder if that little aspect will make it to the movies. Rhetorical, of course it won't. They wouldn't even let Tony Stark be an alcoholic in the last movie.
 
2013-07-22 04:25:32 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Unfortunately, because of the egos involved, the studios are leaving money on the table. You have the potential for three guaranteed $1 billion plus worldwide blockbusters instead of the smaller blockbusters Sony and Fox have been getting with their Marvel properties (ASM brought in $750 million, which is nothing to sneeze at but compared to Iron Man 3 it is not so impressive).


This; push the egos aside and you can have an Avengers movie w/ Wolverine & Spider-Man and even the FF distributed by Sony.
 
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