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2013-07-22 10:12:12 AM  
Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.
 
2013-07-22 11:05:29 AM  
If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.
 
2013-07-22 12:42:29 PM  

Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.


I had no clue what a chitauri was going into Avengers 1 and I still enjoyed the hell out of the movie. I don't know who Ultron is, yet I still want to see Avengers 2.

Who said you need to have an extensive knowledge of the Marvel universe to enjoy their movies?
 
2013-07-22 12:47:28 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I had no clue what a chitauri was going into Avengers 1


Unless they were reading The Ultimates, no regular reader of Marvel did either.

Ultron will make a great villain for Avengers 2.
 
2013-07-22 12:47:47 PM  
I think the bigger question is "Who the f*ck are the Guardians of the Galaxy"? If the people who greenlit that think it's gonna be a success I have a bridge to sell them. Yes, fanboys know who they are, but you need a large majority of the people to know who they are and have a burning desire to go see it. More people know who Green Lantern is and how did that film work out? Ghost Rider? Elektra? Catwoman? All more well known than the Guardians of the Galaxy.
 
2013-07-22 12:50:00 PM  

Walker: fanboys know who they are


Iron Man was not very well known outside of comic fans. The Marvel Cinematic Universe cachet will be enough to draw in the opening crowd, word of mouth will make it a success.
 
2013-07-22 01:07:20 PM  
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So who's da Ultron?
 
2013-07-22 01:11:32 PM  
I didn't know who Whiplash or whatever his name was before Ironman 2.
Isn't Scott Summers father one of the Guardians, or is that some other interstellar group?
 
2013-07-22 01:12:53 PM  
He was a robot that showed up in Avengers #54, Hank Pym's robot that he created trying to dabble in high-int robots. The thing hypnotized Pym into thinking he'd never existed, and then proceeded to upgrade himself in a skynet-like parabola. Then he outfitted himself with an adamantium body and kicked everyone's ass. On the scale of cool villains from the comics, he's actually pretty far up there.

Also, he was the reason I started reading Percy Shelly.
 
2013-07-22 01:13:45 PM  

simplicimus: I didn't know who Whiplash or whatever his name was before Ironman 2.
Isn't Scott Summers father one of the Guardians, or is that some other interstellar group?


That's the Starjammers.
 
2013-07-22 01:13:59 PM  

simplicimus: I didn't know who Whiplash or whatever his name was before Ironman 2.
Isn't Scott Summers father one of the Guardians, or is that some other interstellar group?


Snidely.
 
2013-07-22 01:24:36 PM  

Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.


bs. A ton of people who have no idea who Ultron is are going to see this movie. TONS.

Why? Cause it's some big scary robot that is big and scary and makes copies of itself. Oh and Tony "Snark" is going to be snarky, Thor is going to be awesome and the Hulk is going to be funny.
 
2013-07-22 01:30:06 PM  
All we know is he's portrayed by MISTER Shia LaBeouf!
 
2013-07-22 01:35:45 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: All we know is he's portrayed by MISTER Shia LaBeouf!


images.wikia.com
 
2013-07-22 02:03:12 PM  

Boojum2k: Walker: fanboys know who they are

Iron Man was not very well known outside of comic fans. The Marvel Cinematic Universe cachet will be enough to draw in the opening crowd, word of mouth will make it a success.


Keep believing that.
 
2013-07-22 02:04:15 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.

bs. A ton of people who have no idea who Ultron is are going to see this movie. TONS.

Why? Cause it's some big scary robot that is big and scary and makes copies of itself. Oh and Tony "Snark" is going to be snarky, Thor is going to be awesome and the Hulk is going to be funny.


I was more trying to say there are two kinds of folks who will go see Avengers 2: People who liked Avengers and don't care who the bad guy is (the bulk of people), and comic fans who already know who Ultron is.  If you fall into the third set, people who didn't like Avengers and aren't comic fans, this article isn't going to make you want to see it.
 
2013-07-22 02:18:48 PM  
Ultron is a metal guy created by Hank Pym.

Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

Also, Ultron's evility led in part to Hank Pym doing a concerto in fist minor on Jan's face.
 
2013-07-22 02:31:00 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Ultron is a metal guy created by Hank Pym.

Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

Also, Ultron's evility led in part to Hank Pym doing a concerto in fist minor on Jan's face.


The Vision, in turn, married the Scarlet Witch (Magneto's daughter. Spoilers LOL.)

So if they bring in Ultron, Wanda is eventually going to have to show up. I want to know how they will pull that off in today's updated film canon.

/Also, where's Namor?
 
2013-07-22 02:32:26 PM  
So does that mean we will get Hank Pym?
 
2013-07-22 02:32:48 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Who said you need to have an extensive knowledge of the Marvel universe to enjoy their movies?


A-holes who also think that women can't be comics fans, nor should they dress up at cons.
 
2013-07-22 02:35:05 PM  

numb3r5ev3n: So if they bring in Ultron, Wanda is eventually going to have to show up. I want to know how they will pull that off in today's updated film canon.


The Great and Powerful Whedon has it covered.
 
2013-07-22 02:39:39 PM  

Son of Thunder: So does that mean we will get Hank Pym?


Nope. They specifically said he will not be in it.
 
2013-07-22 02:41:27 PM  

Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.


I didn't know who Ultron was until reading an article Saturday. I would still have seen Avengers 2 without knowing.

But there is this thing called Google. And another thing called Wikipedia. Now I'm really looking forward to seeing Ultron.
 
2013-07-22 02:41:29 PM  

Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.


Yeah, no. People will pour in for this movie. How many people do you think know that it was Thanos in the extra scene after the credits? Doesn't matter because it has big name start and the backing of the movies leading up to it.
 
2013-07-22 02:42:02 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Son of Thunder: So does that mean we will get Hank Pym?

Nope. They specifically said he will not be in it.


Has his own movie in the works.
 
2013-07-22 02:42:04 PM  
I know I'm old and out of the loop, but what is this?

cdn.uproxx.com

When did Ultron start looking like Ghost Rider had a baby with the machines from the Matrix?  THIS is Ultron:
www.worthpoint.com
 
2013-07-22 02:42:51 PM  

Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.


I'm pretty sure the first Avengers movie is why most people will go see the second one.  The story only matters to the comics fans.
 
2013-07-22 02:43:59 PM  

mediablitz: scottydoesntknow: Son of Thunder: So does that mean we will get Hank Pym?

Nope. They specifically said he will not be in it.

Has his own movie in the works.


Is he owned by Marvel or one of the other studios? If he is, I'm surprised they aren't including him.
 
2013-07-22 02:44:24 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.


I was a big comic book fan 69-73. The Vision being a personal favorite. Did not know this until reading the Ultron Wiki.
 
2013-07-22 02:44:35 PM  

dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.


No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?
 
2013-07-22 02:47:21 PM  

scottydoesntknow: mediablitz: scottydoesntknow: Son of Thunder: So does that mean we will get Hank Pym?

Nope. They specifically said he will not be in it.

Has his own movie in the works.

Is he owned by Marvel or one of the other studios? If he is, I'm surprised they aren't including him.


Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that you would have Ultron, who was created by Hank Pym, and you know, not have Hank Pym...but I suppose if they are doing it Age of Ultron comic style...

****SPOILERS******

****SPOLIERS*****


Maybe it will tie in somehow with Wolverine and Sue Storm traveling back in time to kill him.
 
2013-07-22 02:47:28 PM  

Son of Thunder: I know I'm old and out of the loop, but what is this?

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When did Ultron start looking like Ghost Rider had a baby with the machines from the Matrix?  THIS is Ultron:
[www.worthpoint.com image 200x374]


What number is he up to these days? I remember Ultron-6 and -7.
 
2013-07-22 02:50:34 PM  

Son of Thunder: numb3r5ev3n: So if they bring in Ultron, Wanda is eventually going to have to show up. I want to know how they will pull that off in today's updated film canon.

The Great and Powerful Whedon has it covered.


Awesome!
 
2013-07-22 02:51:17 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Son of Thunder: I know I'm old and out of the loop, but what is this?

[cdn.uproxx.com image 335x210]

When did Ultron start looking like Ghost Rider had a baby with the machines from the Matrix?  THIS is Ultron:
[www.worthpoint.com image 200x374]

What number is he up to these days? I remember Ultron-6 and -7.


I don't know if they number him anymore, but he was up to Ultron 16 and 17 in 1999.
 
2013-07-22 02:51:34 PM  
Ultron as a nemisis in the next Avenger Movie... interesting but I want to know who is going to play the pilot of the blue tiger?
 
2013-07-22 02:51:36 PM  

RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?


While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.
 
2013-07-22 02:52:58 PM  

Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.


Dude I'm pretty sure the millions of kids who haven't even been inside of a comic store, read a comic book and possibly have never used paper for anything other than personal hygiene and enjoyed the ever loving shiat out of the Avengers prove you wrong on this one.
 
2013-07-22 02:53:13 PM  

Dr. Whoof: I was more trying to say there are two kinds of folks who will go see Avengers 2: People who liked Avengers and don't care who the bad guy is (the bulk of people), and comic fans who already know who Ultron is. If you fall into the third set, people who didn't like Avengers and aren't comic fans, this article isn't going to make you want to see it.


Now that, I can wholeheartedly agree with. The bad guy really doesn't matter with this movie.
 
2013-07-22 02:55:08 PM  

RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?


No, you're thinking of Sam Walton, the guy for whom Walton Mtn is named. Ultron is a giant robot made out of 5 mecha-lions that traverse the stars and battle Mum-ra!
 
2013-07-22 02:55:14 PM  

Dog Welder: RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?

While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.


No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.
 
2013-07-22 02:58:20 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The bad guy really doesn't matter with this movie.


I think it gets lost with a lot of comics fans, but movies have a tendency to explain who characters are as the story progresses.

...aside from X-Men 3.  Yikes.
 
2013-07-22 02:58:41 PM  
Voltron's brother?
 
2013-07-22 02:59:08 PM  

scottydoesntknow: mediablitz: scottydoesntknow: Son of Thunder: So does that mean we will get Hank Pym?

Nope. They specifically said he will not be in it.

Has his own movie in the works.

Is he owned by Marvel or one of the other studios? If he is, I'm surprised they aren't including him.


Marvel is listed as one of the production companies for the Ant-Man movie (due in 2015?!?!)
 
2013-07-22 02:59:38 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.


Played by Justin Bieber, obvs.
 
2013-07-22 03:00:33 PM  

NewbornRook: scottydoesntknow: mediablitz: scottydoesntknow: Son of Thunder: So does that mean we will get Hank Pym?

Nope. They specifically said he will not be in it.

Has his own movie in the works.

Is he owned by Marvel or one of the other studios? If he is, I'm surprised they aren't including him.

Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that you would have Ultron, who was created by Hank Pym, and you know, not have Hank Pym...but I suppose if they are doing it Age of Ultron comic style...

****SPOILERS******

****SPOLIERS*****


Maybe it will tie in somehow with Wolverine and Sue Storm traveling back in time to kill him.




Whedon says you don't need Hank Pym
 
2013-07-22 03:00:35 PM  
My feeling is that they are rushing to do Ultron a bit too fast.   I think he could use some more foreshadowing.  Nothing too heavy but some hints here and there during the 2nd film that lead to the third one.
 
2013-07-22 03:05:19 PM  

Gergesa: My feeling is that they are rushing to do Ultron a bit too fast.   I think he could use some more foreshadowing.  Nothing too heavy but some hints here and there during the 2nd film that lead to the third one.


Weren't they working on an Ant-Man movie? Might be a good place to put that.
 
2013-07-22 03:06:02 PM  

Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.


The vast majority of people who went to see Avengers didn't read the comic books.
 
2013-07-22 03:06:10 PM  

FunkyBlue: Gergesa: My feeling is that they are rushing to do Ultron a bit too fast.   I think he could use some more foreshadowing.  Nothing too heavy but some hints here and there during the 2nd film that lead to the third one.

Weren't they working on an Ant-Man movie? Might be a good place to put that.


Will an Ant Man movie have a direct to Lifetime sequel starring Wasp?
 
2013-07-22 03:06:46 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dog Welder: RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?

While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.

No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.


Close, but no banana. You're thinking of Elton John. Ultron is that giant anime robot from the '80s that made out  5 diffrent colored robot lions. It was a good cartoon for its time, but it doesn't well anymore and i don't why Whedon would be dipping into anime when he has a lot to work with from the Avenger's catalog.
 
2013-07-22 03:08:49 PM  

Gergesa: My feeling is that they are rushing to do Ultron a bit too fast.   I think he could use some more foreshadowing.  Nothing too heavy but some hints here and there during the 2nd film that lead to the third one.


Hints and foreshadowing? No time. You get 3 Avengers movies with the cast everyone cares about and that's it. No time for subtlety. Loki, Ultron, Thanos, and see ya later.
 
2013-07-22 03:10:35 PM  

Walker: I think the bigger question is "Who the f*ck are the Guardians of the Galaxy"? If the people who greenlit that think it's gonna be a success I have a bridge to sell them. Yes, fanboys know who they are, but you need a large majority of the people to know who they are and have a burning desire to go see it. More people know who Green Lantern is and how did that film work out? Ghost Rider? Elektra? Catwoman? All more well known than the Guardians of the Galaxy.


Here's the thing -- if you make a good movie, people will go see it.  That's how sci-fi / fantasy movies work.

No one knew who the Na'vi were when Avatar came out.  No one knew what the term "inception" meant when Inception came out.  No one knew who Neo was when the Matrix came out.  No one knew what the Force was when the first Star Wars came out in 1977.

If you have good writing, good acting, good directing, and good special effects -- people will see your movie, even if it does have a talking raccoon in it.  If you have crap writing, crap acting, crap directing, and crap special effects, having the Silver Surfer in your movie isn't going to save it.
 
2013-07-22 03:10:38 PM  

mediablitz: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

I was a big comic book fan 69-73. The Vision being a personal favorite. Did not know this until reading the Ultron Wiki.


Surely you don't mean to say that people will go out and read about things that seem interesting, do you?
 
2013-07-22 03:12:29 PM  
So if this is the case, why was Thanatos (sp?) shown at the end of Avengers 1?
 
2013-07-22 03:15:55 PM  

OldRod: So if this is the case, why was Thanatos (sp?) shown at the end of Avengers 1?


They covered this in the article:

It's Thanos, and we don't know but given the results of the early MCU it'll be AWESOME.
 
2013-07-22 03:19:25 PM  
All I know about Ultron is from The Next Avengers movie. But in that, Tony Stark created him.
 
2013-07-22 03:19:42 PM  
Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.
 
2013-07-22 03:27:19 PM  
I'm guessing that they will handle Pym with it being some mystery at the end of the movie as to where Ultron came from. Cue the after credits scene of Pym to foreshadow the Ant man movie.
 
2013-07-22 03:28:53 PM  

sxacho: All I know about Ultron is from The Next Avengers movie. But in that, Tony Stark created him.


Given Stark's breakdowns in Ironman 3 and the ending, he's going to want to create a more independent version and let it do the heavy lifting...until it rebels.  That might work.
 
2013-07-22 03:29:25 PM  

meanmutton: Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.

The vast majority of people who went to see Avengers didn't read the comic books.


The vast majority of people in this thread also didn't read my follow up, where I explained it was a dig on the article, not on who will or won't see Avengers 2.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2013-07-22 03:30:42 PM  

NewbornRook: Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that you would have Ultron, who was created by Hank Pym, and you know, not have Hank Pym...but I suppose if they are doing it Age of Ultron comic style...


They said it will have nothing to do with the current series, it just shares the name.

Ant-Man is scheduled to be released after Avengers 2.  So the way I see it, they can introduce Pym in Avengers 2, have him create Ultron, have Ultron go berserk and want to kill all flesh, etc etc.  Then, after Avengers, we can have a teaser trailer showing Pym growing into Giant Man...then shrinking down to Ant-Man and a "whoops..." to the delight of the crowd.
 
2013-07-22 03:31:32 PM  

mediablitz: NewbornRook: scottydoesntknow: mediablitz: scottydoesntknow: Son of Thunder: So does that mean we will get Hank Pym?

Nope. They specifically said he will not be in it.

Has his own movie in the works.

Is he owned by Marvel or one of the other studios? If he is, I'm surprised they aren't including him.

Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that you would have Ultron, who was created by Hank Pym, and you know, not have Hank Pym...but I suppose if they are doing it Age of Ultron comic style...

****SPOILERS******

****SPOLIERS*****


Maybe it will tie in somehow with Wolverine and Sue Storm traveling back in time to kill him.

Whedon says you don't need Hank Pym


Hawkeye, on the other hand, is completely indisposable.
 
2013-07-22 03:31:47 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dog Welder: RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?

While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.

No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.


I've no idea if it was intentional, but you pretty much just described the plot of Mayhem of the Music Meister from season 1 of Batman: the Brave and the Bold.
 
2013-07-22 03:32:33 PM  
lparchive.org
 
2013-07-22 03:33:35 PM  
Avengers 2 will be about Ultron?

www.fedupusa.org

I'd much rather see a take on this:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-22 03:34:16 PM  

MBK: NewbornRook: Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that you would have Ultron, who was created by Hank Pym, and you know, not have Hank Pym...but I suppose if they are doing it Age of Ultron comic style...

They said it will have nothing to do with the current series, it just shares the name.

Ant-Man is scheduled to be released after Avengers 2.  So the way I see it, they can introduce Pym in Avengers 2, have him create Ultron, have Ultron go berserk and want to kill all flesh, etc etc.  Then, after Avengers, we can have a teaser trailer showing Pym growing into Giant Man...then shrinking down to Ant-Man and a "whoops..." to the delight of the crowd.


After looking up some other articles it seems it's just a shared title and whole new take on the origin of Ultron. But, I'm still looking forward to it.
 
2013-07-22 03:34:22 PM  

Dr. Whoof: meanmutton: Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.

The vast majority of people who went to see Avengers didn't read the comic books.

The vast majority of people in this thread also didn't read my follow up, where I explained it was a dig on the article, not on who will or won't see Avengers 2.


Fair enough.
 
2013-07-22 03:35:29 PM  

jaybeezey: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dog Welder: RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?

While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.

No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.

Close, but no banana. You're thinking of Elton John. Ultron is that giant anime robot from the '80s that made out  5 diffrent colored robot lions. It was a good cartoon for its time, but it doesn't well anymore and i don't why Whedon would be dipping into anime when he has a lot to work with from the Avenger's catalog.


So close, but you are thinking of Bolton who was giant robot made out of twenty or so cars and planes in Space!!

Ultron I think is an easy listening music singer. Yeah, Michael Ultron.
 
2013-07-22 03:35:45 PM  

NewbornRook: MBK: NewbornRook: Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that you would have Ultron, who was created by Hank Pym, and you know, not have Hank Pym...but I suppose if they are doing it Age of Ultron comic style...

They said it will have nothing to do with the current series, it just shares the name.

Ant-Man is scheduled to be released after Avengers 2.  So the way I see it, they can introduce Pym in Avengers 2, have him create Ultron, have Ultron go berserk and want to kill all flesh, etc etc.  Then, after Avengers, we can have a teaser trailer showing Pym growing into Giant Man...then shrinking down to Ant-Man and a "whoops..." to the delight of the crowd.

After looking up some other articles it seems it's just a shared title and whole new take on the origin of Ultron. But, I'm still looking forward to it.


Or, knowing Marvel, they knew Avengers 2 was going to be Age of Ultron, and slapped the name on a comic series to sell books to those who don't know any better when the movie comes out.
 
2013-07-22 03:36:34 PM  
And this is why every Batman reboot has to do an origin story. So, Vin Diesel as Man Ape for the Black Panther movie?
 
2013-07-22 03:36:58 PM  

verbaltoxin: Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.


If they play their cards right, Thanos will be such a bigger bad, that it will require the Avengers, X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and even Spiderman, Daredevil, Ghostrider, Blade, the Fantastic Four, and Punisher to help beat him.

/I just came
 
2013-07-22 03:39:01 PM  
Also if Fox is doing a Days of Future Past with the X-Men, they really shouldn't do an Ultron movie.  It'll be too similar to each other... heroes have to battle android(s) to save the world.
 
2013-07-22 03:40:46 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: NewbornRook: MBK: NewbornRook: Yeah it doesn't make sense to me that you would have Ultron, who was created by Hank Pym, and you know, not have Hank Pym...but I suppose if they are doing it Age of Ultron comic style...

They said it will have nothing to do with the current series, it just shares the name.

Ant-Man is scheduled to be released after Avengers 2.  So the way I see it, they can introduce Pym in Avengers 2, have him create Ultron, have Ultron go berserk and want to kill all flesh, etc etc.  Then, after Avengers, we can have a teaser trailer showing Pym growing into Giant Man...then shrinking down to Ant-Man and a "whoops..." to the delight of the crowd.

After looking up some other articles it seems it's just a shared title and whole new take on the origin of Ultron. But, I'm still looking forward to it.

Or, knowing Marvel, they knew Avengers 2 was going to be Age of Ultron, and slapped the name on a comic series to sell books to those who don't know any better when the movie comes out.


Entirely possible and the most likely scenario.
 
2013-07-22 03:41:15 PM  
I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
ts2.mm.bing.net
 
2013-07-22 03:43:49 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: verbaltoxin: Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.

If they play their cards right, Thanos will be such a bigger bad, that it will require the Avengers, X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and even Spiderman, Daredevil, Ghostrider, Blade, the Fantastic Four, and Punisher to help beat him.

/I just came


Throw in the Justice League and Luke Skywalker and Patton Oswalt will look like a genius.
 
2013-07-22 03:44:54 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dog Welder: RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?

While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.

No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.


I'm fairly sure you're talking about Olivia Ultron-John, who co-starred with L. Ron Hubbard in Grease.  This movie will be about Ultron Brown, who will take command of all the kitchens of Earth and demand that people really get anal about their cooking and baking.  Everyone will be issued an Ultron-Oven thermometer.
 
2013-07-22 03:45:08 PM  

grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]


Can she take a punch?
 
2013-07-22 03:45:17 PM  

grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]


Oh man, I would hit that harder than Hank Pym would...

static.comicvine.com
/just not the same way, and I know you know what I mean
 
2013-07-22 03:45:54 PM  
Learn2searchengine, smitty!

Sure, I recognize that not everyone is a Hank Pym fanboy like me. But displays of willful ignorance in the era of Google/Bing/Uranus are just sad. Educate yourself, fool! Then submit a post asking a more educated question, like "Hank Pym is getting his own movie too. AWESOME, AMIRITE???"

/see?
//that's how you do it
///no real mean-mugging going on here
////just slashies and nerd love
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2013-07-22 03:45:59 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: verbaltoxin: Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.

If they play their cards right, Thanos will be such a bigger bad, that it will require the Avengers, X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and even Spiderman, Daredevil, Ghostrider, Blade, the Fantastic Four, and Punisher to help beat him.

/I just came


Fox owns X-Men and Fantastic Four (I think).  Sony owns Spiderman.  No one wants Daredevil or Blade.  So unless Marvel is going to pony up billions to buy back the rights, or Sony and Fox decide they hate making money hand over fist and stop making X-Men and Spiderman movies, it won't happen.
 
2013-07-22 03:46:48 PM  

PsyLord: grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]

Oh man, I would hit that harder than Hank Pym would...

[static.comicvine.com image 410x349]
/just not the same way, and I know you know what I mean


I never understood why Jan could get the hell beaten out of her by Ultron and look like she spent a day at the spa, but one slap from Hank and she looks like she was the guest of honor at a blanket party.
 
2013-07-22 03:48:48 PM  

MBK: Kangaroo_Ralph: verbaltoxin: Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.

If they play their cards right, Thanos will be such a bigger bad, that it will require the Avengers, X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and even Spiderman, Daredevil, Ghostrider, Blade, the Fantastic Four, and Punisher to help beat him.

/I just came

Fox owns X-Men and Fantastic Four (I think).  Sony owns Spiderman.  No one wants Daredevil or Blade.  So unless Marvel is going to pony up billions to buy back the rights, or Sony and Fox decide they hate making money hand over fist and stop making X-Men and Spiderman movies, it won't happen.


If they all can't collaborate on a movie, perhaps what they will do is sorta like a cross-over like in the comics.  Have the main event happen at Marvel with side action with the other studios.
 
2013-07-22 03:50:59 PM  

Senordos13: [lparchive.org image 800x600]


We have worn the mask of shame ever since breaking it!
 
2013-07-22 03:51:33 PM  

PsyLord: /just not the same way, and I know you know what I mean


You prefer to use your right hand?
 
2013-07-22 03:52:34 PM  
Since there seems to be a lot of confusion here, I figured I'd compile some information about the future of the Marvel movie universe:

Upcoming movies:
Black Panther is probably getting a movie. Not before Avengers 2, but almost definitely after. His country sits on the largest Vibranium depository in the world, so he may play a role / be foreshadowed / introduced in Avengers 2.

Ant-Man is getting a movie in 2015. It will be out after Avengers 2, and Pym is not responsible for the creation of Ultron in the movie universe.

Doctor Strange is likely for 2016, but all of the speculation that it would be announced at SDCC was wrong. So it's still speculation. I'd suspect that they bumped Doctor Stange for Guardians of the Galaxy as they really want to build as much hype for this new & different direction they're taking. On a side note, they seem to be nailing the hell out of it from everything I've seen/heard from SDCC.

Other Stuff:
It seems as though Marvel is setting up Thanos as the villain for Avengers 3, after introducing him in Guardians of the Galaxy. Kevin Feige of Marvel explained that he is in the movie as a mastermind and they're setting him up for a 'long long time'. Meaning for Avengers 3. Basically that means that the post-credits scene of Avengers was a lead-in to Guardians which will see them battling him / his cronies in an attempt to stop him before making his way to Earth.

Kevin Feige also hinted that Vin Diesel could be Luke Cage. Not Vision. Or Ultron. Or Thanos. But that seemed way too direct a quote without it being an actual announcement, so I'd still lean toward him being Vision or Thanos. Also, wouldn't they want someone more, you know, black to play Luke Cage since right now they have the White Power Avengers at full strength?

His mention of a street-level marvel world in the future would make sense with them regaining the rights to Daredevil and saying as much.

Other than that, I'd expect at least one or two cameos / surprises. I think the most unlikely-but-not-totally-out-of-the-question is Spider-man appearing with the Avengers someday. Beyond Andrew Garfield reading comics, which means nothing, Avi Arad's comments at the end of the article are what are really intriguing. Possibly after they establish these other characters as kind of a New Avengers once the original Avengers trilogy is out of the way. I could see Avengers 3 being a passing of the torch kind of deal so these young folks could movie them into the future.
 
2013-07-22 03:54:25 PM  

Bareefer Obonghit: Stuff


Threw away the link to Black Panther. Here's the important part from the article:

Marvel's Chief Creative Office Joe Quesada comes to Comic-Con every year for the Cup O' Joe Q&A session, and he answered a very leading question about future Marvel characters with a very intriguing answer. Asked if development of standalone movies for characters like Thor and Captain America would lead to a "minority property" making its way to the screen, Quesada said simply "yes." The intrepid fan clarified, "Like, you think it might happen or it will happen?" and Quesada said, definitively,"It will happen." It takes a whole lot less than that to get crowds at Comic-Con excited, so you know that Quesada knew exactly what he was doing when making a specific promise like that.
 
2013-07-22 03:54:31 PM  

grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]


Oooh, nice.

Esp. if they do the kinky shrink scene w/ Pym.
 
2013-07-22 03:55:00 PM  

MBK: Fox owns X-Men and Fantastic Four (I think). Sony owns Spiderman. No one wants Daredevil or Blade. So unless Marvel is going to pony up billions to buy back the rights, or Sony and Fox decide they hate making money hand over fist and stop making X-Men and Spiderman movies, it won't happen.


For Xmen buy the rights to the DC knockoff version and then for FF just create the Fabulous Five.  Then create a character named Sorny that has spider powers.
 
2013-07-22 03:59:37 PM  

grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]


I'd let her sting me...
 
2013-07-22 04:00:31 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dog Welder: RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?

While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.

No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.

I'm fairly sure you're talking about Olivia Ultron-John, who co-starred with L. Ron Hubbard in Grease.  This movie will be about Ultron Brown, who will take command of all the kitchens of Earth and demand that people really get anal about their cooking, baking and sex.Everyone will be issued an Ultron-Oven thermometer.


FTFY
 
2013-07-22 04:01:45 PM  

grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]


I really, REALLY wish they'd have continued 'V'. She was amazingly hot.
 
2013-07-22 04:10:51 PM  

Mikey1969: grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]

I really, REALLY wish they'd have continued 'V'. She was amazingly hot.


Watch Homeland on Showtime and get your fix... even boobiez!  And yes, she is amazingly hot.
 
2013-07-22 04:14:42 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.

I had no clue what a chitauri was going into Avengers 1 and I still enjoyed the hell out of the movie. I don't know who Ultron is, yet I still want to see Avengers 2.

Who said you need to have an extensive knowledge of the Marvel universe to enjoy their movies?


This.
 
2013-07-22 04:15:38 PM  
 
2013-07-22 04:17:45 PM  

I_C_Weener: sxacho: All I know about Ultron is from The Next Avengers movie. But in that, Tony Stark created him.

Given Stark's breakdowns in Ironman 3 and the ending, he's going to want to create a more independent version and let it do the heavy lifting...until it rebels.  That might work.


Given that there was an IM storyline about one of his suits gaining sentience and battling Tony on a remote island, yeah, it'll work.
 
2013-07-22 04:18:43 PM  
You know what I want to see in the next Marvel Cinema movie? Hugh Jackman walking in the background, slightly out of focus, using some flaming debris to light a cigar and have that cigar snatched out his hand by a web shot by someone off screen. Just like 7 seconds. Just enough to cause $200,000 per hour worth of lawyers heads to explode.
 
2013-07-22 04:19:21 PM  

simplicimus: I didn't know who Whiplash or whatever his name was before Ironman 2.
Isn't Scott Summers father one of the Guardians, or is that some other interstellar group?


mediablitz: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

I was a big comic book fan 69-73. The Vision being a personal favorite. Did not know this until reading the Ultron Wiki.


If you were a comic fan from 1969-1973 and also liked the Vision, how could you not already know this when it was explained in his first appearance and then also in the story arc where Ultron got his adamantium body?
 
2013-07-22 04:22:16 PM  

MBK: Kangaroo_Ralph: verbaltoxin: Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.

If they play their cards right, Thanos will be such a bigger bad, that it will require the Avengers, X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and even Spiderman, Daredevil, Ghostrider, Blade, the Fantastic Four, and Punisher to help beat him.

/I just came

Fox owns X-Men and Fantastic Four (I think).  Sony owns Spiderman.  No one wants Daredevil or Blade.  So unless Marvel is going to pony up billions to buy back the rights, or Sony and Fox decide they hate making money hand over fist and stop making X-Men and Spiderman movies, it won't happen.


Studios have teamed up before for productions like Titanic, so they could theoretically do it if they co-produced the movies and then had then take turns relasing the movies. For example, you could take a page out of the comic crossovers and have a Spiderman movie kick off the storyline in a late April or early May release, have the middle movie cover the X-Men's involvement over Memorial Day, then wrap up the story in an Avengers movie over July 4th. Each studio gets a movie and in the process makes more money off their part of the crossover than they would have had with an unrelated stand alone movie, so everyone wins.

Unfortunately, because of the egos involved, the studios are leaving money on the table. You have the potential for three guaranteed $1 billion plus worldwide blockbusters instead of the smaller blockbusters Sony and Fox have been getting with their Marvel properties (ASM brought in $750 million, which is nothing to sneeze at but compared to Iron Man 3 it is not so impressive).
 
2013-07-22 04:24:15 PM  
In their description of Hank Pym they left out the fact he's a wife beater. I wonder if that little aspect will make it to the movies. Rhetorical, of course it won't. They wouldn't even let Tony Stark be an alcoholic in the last movie.
 
2013-07-22 04:25:32 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Unfortunately, because of the egos involved, the studios are leaving money on the table. You have the potential for three guaranteed $1 billion plus worldwide blockbusters instead of the smaller blockbusters Sony and Fox have been getting with their Marvel properties (ASM brought in $750 million, which is nothing to sneeze at but compared to Iron Man 3 it is not so impressive).


This; push the egos aside and you can have an Avengers movie w/ Wolverine & Spider-Man and even the FF distributed by Sony.
 
2013-07-22 04:32:41 PM  

I_C_Weener: sxacho: All I know about Ultron is from The Next Avengers movie. But in that, Tony Stark created him.

Given Stark's breakdowns in Ironman 3 and the ending, he's going to want to create a more independent version and let it do the heavy lifting...until it rebels.  That might work.


Not to mention that Tony has been working on AI from the beginning with Jarvis. It would add some emotional impact to the story if Ultron is the result of Jarvis becoming corrupted or becoming rampant somehow, because Jarvis has always been such an audience favorite. Tony being forced to take him down would be almost heartbreaking.
 
2013-07-22 04:35:05 PM  

Mad_Radhu: I_C_Weener: sxacho: All I know about Ultron is from The Next Avengers movie. But in that, Tony Stark created him.

Given Stark's breakdowns in Ironman 3 and the ending, he's going to want to create a more independent version and let it do the heavy lifting...until it rebels.  That might work.

Not to mention that Tony has been working on AI from the beginning with Jarvis. It would add some emotional impact to the story if Ultron is the result of Jarvis becoming corrupted or becoming rampant somehow, because Jarvis has always been such an audience favorite. Tony being forced to take him down would be almost heartbreaking.


That would be interesting; say someone's messing with Stark Tech which unleashes a bug/virus that creates Ultron perhaps?
 
2013-07-22 04:41:04 PM  

ParagonComplex: In their description of Hank Pym they left out the fact he's a wife beater. I wonder if that little aspect will make it to the movies. Rhetorical, of course it won't. They wouldn't even let Tony Stark be an alcoholic in the last movie.


Honestly it doesn't matter that much to anyone who reads the comics.  It was a thing that happened once, twenty years ago, and it was a slap.

http://www.jimshooter.com/2011/03/hank-pym-was-not-wife-beater.html
 
2013-07-22 04:44:03 PM  

Rwa2play: Mad_Radhu: I_C_Weener: sxacho: All I know about Ultron is from The Next Avengers movie. But in that, Tony Stark created him.

Given Stark's breakdowns in Ironman 3 and the ending, he's going to want to create a more independent version and let it do the heavy lifting...until it rebels.  That might work.

Not to mention that Tony has been working on AI from the beginning with Jarvis. It would add some emotional impact to the story if Ultron is the result of Jarvis becoming corrupted or becoming rampant somehow, because Jarvis has always been such an audience favorite. Tony being forced to take him down would be almost heartbreaking.

That would be interesting; say someone's messing with Stark Tech which unleashes a bug/virus that creates Ultron perhaps?



I hope they go another route.  I'd rather not startrekify the MCU Avengers and always have every story revolve around the same one or two characters.  Iron Man has a had a huge time in the sun for a while now, I'd rather for A2 and other non-IM films for him to ease back into a major supporting player rather than haveing everything be about him.
 
2013-07-22 04:51:26 PM  

Son of Thunder: I know I'm old and out of the loop, but what is this?

[cdn.uproxx.com image 335x210]

When did Ultron start looking like Ghost Rider had a baby with the machines from the Matrix?  THIS is Ultron:
[www.worthpoint.com image 200x374]


I was thinking the same thing.
 
2013-07-22 04:51:40 PM  
You know what we need?

upload.wikimedia.org

We need that. Make it happen.
 
2013-07-22 04:55:19 PM  

jaybeezey: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dog Welder: RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?

While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.

No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.

Close, but no banana. You're thinking of Elton John. Ultron is that giant anime robot from the '80s that made out  5 diffrent colored robot lions. It was a good cartoon for its time, but it doesn't well anymore and i don't why Whedon would be dipping into anime when he has a lot to work with from the Avenger's catalog.


No, no, no. That version of Ultron will never work. I mean, for Chrissake, how are you going to hide a giant anime robot made out of five different colored robot lions in an attic? I mean, you'd have to be deaf like Daredevil to not hear them clomping around.
The Ultron to which the thread refers is clearly the DS3 Cabrio, in which the Avengers will all try to cram themselves, after which Richard Hammond will try to beat The Stig, packed in an Opel Adam with the 2013 British and Irish Lions, around our test track. But first, James May knits a doily...again.
 
2013-07-22 04:56:35 PM  

BafflerMeal: ParagonComplex: In their description of Hank Pym they left out the fact he's a wife beater. I wonder if that little aspect will make it to the movies. Rhetorical, of course it won't. They wouldn't even let Tony Stark be an alcoholic in the last movie.

Honestly it doesn't matter that much to anyone who reads the comics.  It was a thing that happened once, twenty years ago, and it was a slap.

http://www.jimshooter.com/2011/03/hank-pym-was-not-wife-beater.html


Doesn't matter that much?

It's the only thing he's remembered for!

Mark Millar made him King Wife Beater in the Ultimates!

Brian Bendis made him "guy whose opinion never mattered because he was a wife beater" in Avengers!

Hank Pym's entire existence is summed up as "WIFE BEATER (and created Ultron)."
 
2013-07-22 04:58:44 PM  

Bareefer Obonghit: Ant-Man is getting a movie in 2015. It will be out after Avengers 2, and Pym is not responsible for the creation of Ultron in the movie universe.


Given that the whole thing about Hank Pym is that he's a straight-up mad scientist that sometimes does the most harm when he's trying to do good, this disappoints me severely.  Mainly because it means that they're going to try to make him a straightforward protagonist, which just ruins it.

He's sort of the anti-Stark.  Stark has the one big invention (the infinite-energy reactor) that spins off into a bunch of other random devices that seem like logical extensions of the reactor tech.  He has antisocial tendencies (most notably the womanizing and the alcoholism) but sort of struggles through to be more or less a hero, and underneath it all is a core of steadfast, iron-willed heroism.

Pym, by contrast, knows a bit of every subject and one day is researching subatomic physics and the next making a device to talk to farking ants.  He can't hold a superhero name down for more than a few years (ant man, giant man, etc).  Unlike Stark, he really  wants to be a hero, and is obsessive about proving his heroism, giving Superman a run for his money on high-horse moralizing and so on... but underneath it all, he is  literally insane.  His attempts at reforming captured villains with science make Hitler and Menegle look like reasonable dudes, he's willing to stage destructive supervillain bouts to keep himself in action, and his experiments have a history of going horribly, horribly right, farking everyone over by working just a little too well.

Basically, if you're going to stick with the simplistic black-and-white bullshiat the Marvel and DC movie properties have been feeding us, Pym should be a villain, albeit more the 'misguided' variety than the outright evil.
 
2013-07-22 04:59:42 PM  

Kinek: You know what we need?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x455]

We need that. Make it happen.


No, we need this:
www.liveforfilms.com
 
2013-07-22 05:03:23 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Hank Pym's entire existence is summed up as "WIFE BEATER (and created Ultron)."


Which is a bit odd, given that he was married to someone with innate superpowers who gets punched a lot harder all the time by people intending serious harm and doesn't really give a shiat.  Superheroes get mind-controlled or have breakdowns and knock each other around all the time, usually they cry a bit about it if that before shrugging and going back to the status quo.
 
2013-07-22 05:03:56 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Kinek: You know what we need?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x455]

We need that. Make it happen.

No, we need this:
[www.liveforfilms.com image 300x285]


Butbutbut Frog of thunder!
 
2013-07-22 05:11:33 PM  

Kinek: Butbutbut Frog of thunder!


Heh.  Butt Frog.
 
2013-07-22 05:12:23 PM  

FunkyBlue: Gergesa: My feeling is that they are rushing to do Ultron a bit too fast.   I think he could use some more foreshadowing.  Nothing too heavy but some hints here and there during the 2nd film that lead to the third one.

Weren't they working on an Ant-Man movie? Might be a good place to put that.


Yes they are.  I don't think they've started production just yet, but I remember the guy that directed (and wrote I believe) Shaun of the Dead is directing it, and doing some of the screenplay as well.
 
2013-07-22 05:17:06 PM  
Wake me when the make the Secret Wars into a movie. I know in today's mythology that would be like Big Brother with superheroes but it still would be pretty cool. Plus, I could finally dump my first edition run of the books for a high payout.
 
2013-07-22 05:23:48 PM  

Latinwolf: simplicimus: I didn't know who Whiplash or whatever his name was before Ironman 2.
Isn't Scott Summers father one of the Guardians, or is that some other interstellar group?

mediablitz: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

I was a big comic book fan 69-73. The Vision being a personal favorite. Did not know this until reading the Ultron Wiki.

If you were a comic fan from 1969-1973 and also liked the Vision, how could you not already know this when it was explained in his first appearance and then also in the story arc where Ultron got his adamantium body?


How about I probably DID know this at one time, but we are talking 40 years ago? I was a HUGE Incredible Hulk and Daredevil fan too. Don't ask me to detail any plot lines.
 
2013-07-22 05:28:27 PM  

mediablitz: Latinwolf: simplicimus: I didn't know who Whiplash or whatever his name was before Ironman 2.
Isn't Scott Summers father one of the Guardians, or is that some other interstellar group?

mediablitz: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

I was a big comic book fan 69-73. The Vision being a personal favorite. Did not know this until reading the Ultron Wiki.

If you were a comic fan from 1969-1973 and also liked the Vision, how could you not already know this when it was explained in his first appearance and then also in the story arc where Ultron got his adamantium body?

How about I probably DID know this at one time, but we are talking 40 years ago? I was a HUGE Incredible Hulk and Daredevil fan too. Don't ask me to detail any plot lines.


With the Hulk alone it's a clusterfark.
 
2013-07-22 05:28:50 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Kinek: Butbutbut Frog of thunder!

Heh.  Butt Frog.


Whenever I fart now, it will be a Butt Frog of thunder.
 
2013-07-22 05:30:21 PM  

mediablitz: How about I probably DID know this at one time, but we are talking 40 years ago? I was a HUGE Incredible Hulk and Daredevil fan too. Don't ask me to detail any plot lines.


Wait... Hulk had more than one plot-line prior to the 1980s?

I was like 90% sure he just had the one: "Banner rides into town, there is a conspiracy of some kind (from local criminal to national military in range, and sometimes targeting Banner, sometimes him just being in the middle of it through bad luck), some punk makes him angry, conspiracy left shattered and at least nominally solved, hulk rides off into the sunset followed by black helicopters at a discreet distance".

I mean, Hulk was basically The Man with No Name: now with extra green and grey ink!!!
 
2013-07-22 05:32:23 PM  
I think Ultron being created by Stark would work pretty well for the movie universe.
 
2013-07-22 05:33:54 PM  
Why is everyone assuming this is Hank Pym in Ant Man? What about Eric O'Grady?

I'm miffed b/c Hank is definitely a new type of character, a seething narcissist w/ a huge chip on his shoulder, yet instead of going the easy way and becoming a super villain, he tries to be the hero. Granted, his "oopsie daisies" cause more mayhem and destruction than anyone not named Doom or Banner, but that makes his struggle to save the day more poignant. Probably have to tone down the wife beating though, that's not going to go over well w/ anybody.
 
2013-07-22 05:34:03 PM  

Jim_Callahan: mediablitz: How about I probably DID know this at one time, but we are talking 40 years ago? I was a HUGE Incredible Hulk and Daredevil fan too. Don't ask me to detail any plot lines.

Wait... Hulk had more than one plot-line prior to the 1980s?

I was like 90% sure he just had the one: "Banner rides into town, there is a conspiracy of some kind (from local criminal to national military in range, and sometimes targeting Banner, sometimes him just being in the middle of it through bad luck), some punk makes him angry, conspiracy left shattered and at least nominally solved, hulk rides off into the sunset followed by black helicopters at a discreet distance".

I mean, Hulk was basically The Man with No Name: now with extra green and grey ink!!!


No, that was the TV storyline.

The comics were General Ross plotting to destroy the Hulk, because reasons, the Army or another superhero fighting Hulk, and Hulk screaming "HULK SMASH PUNY HUMANS! WHY PUNY HUMANS NO LEAVE HULK ALONE?!" before leaping away.
 
2013-07-22 05:45:23 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Ultron is a metal guy created by Hank Pym.

Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

Also, Ultron's evility led in part to Hank Pym doing a concerto in fist minor on Jan's face.


Did you come up with that phrase?
Cuz, yeah, I'm so gonna steal that. I'm gonna tweak it to say, 'A symphony on his face; a concerto in fist minor".
 
2013-07-22 05:45:39 PM  

Trocadero: Why is everyone assuming this is Hank Pym in Ant Man? What about Eric O'Grady?

I'm miffed b/c Hank is definitely a new type of character, a seething narcissist w/ a huge chip on his shoulder, yet instead of going the easy way and becoming a super villain, he tries to be the hero. Granted, his "oopsie daisies" cause more mayhem and destruction than anyone not named Doom or Banner, but that makes his struggle to save the day more poignant. Probably have to tone down the wife beating though, that's not going to go over well w/ anybody.


Don't forget Richards.  If there's one man that'd give him a run for the money on the "oops I -- the whole world" it's Reed.  That man's more trouble than Magneto.  Wouldn't it be a great surprise if they made Mr. Fantastic the creator of Ultron, which sparks a fight between the FF and Avengers, ending in a "oops, it was all a mistake" before getting together to stomp robots?  Well, except for the part where the FF is in it, it'd be cool...
 
2013-07-22 05:50:40 PM  

Hector Remarkable: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron is a metal guy created by Hank Pym.

Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

Also, Ultron's evility led in part to Hank Pym doing a concerto in fist minor on Jan's face.

Did you come up with that phrase?
Cuz, yeah, I'm so gonna steal that. I'm gonna tweak it to say, 'A symphony on his face; a concerto in fist minor".


After a quick google search, I found no hits,so I guess I did come up with it.

Add to it what you like.
 
2013-07-22 05:57:44 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Dr. Whoof: If you really need to have explained who Ultron is, you probably aren't going to be going to see Avengers 2 anyway.

I had no clue what a chitauri was going into Avengers 1 and I still enjoyed the hell out of the movie. I don't know who Ultron is, yet I still want to see Avengers 2.

Who said you need to have an extensive knowledge of the Marvel universe to enjoy their movies?


This: dammit folks you don't have to know Everything, just make it interesting and people will follow it.
 
2013-07-22 05:58:36 PM  

ParagonComplex: In their description of Hank Pym they left out the fact he's a wife beater. I wonder if that little aspect will make it to the movies. Rhetorical, of course it won't. They wouldn't even let Tony Stark be an alcoholic in the last movie.


They shouldn't have made him feel small
 
2013-07-22 05:58:46 PM  

verbaltoxin: Goddammit. I wanted to see Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.


I wouldn't rule it out yet. With Guardians of the Galaxy happening soon, I think it's not too far fetched to say that it's probably in the film canon's future at some point.
 
2013-07-22 06:00:09 PM  
I thought Dr. Who took care of Ultron?
doctorwhotoys.net
 
2013-07-22 06:04:31 PM  
images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-07-22 06:13:10 PM  

BafflerMeal: [images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 533x800]


I remember that storyline, they had to go get Pym and find him about to fark Tigra. Although at the time, that was really a Skrull acting as Pym.
 
2013-07-22 06:19:49 PM  
Screw who the villain is, I just want to know when Batman is going to be on screen with the avengers.
 
2013-07-22 06:19:54 PM  
www.spburke.com
This guy?
 
2013-07-22 06:21:32 PM  

grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]


How about no.


now this:
img109.imageshack.us
 
2013-07-22 06:22:25 PM  

0100010: Trocadero: Why is everyone assuming this is Hank Pym in Ant Man? What about Eric O'Grady?

I'm miffed b/c Hank is definitely a new type of character, a seething narcissist w/ a huge chip on his shoulder, yet instead of going the easy way and becoming a super villain, he tries to be the hero. Granted, his "oopsie daisies" cause more mayhem and destruction than anyone not named Doom or Banner, but that makes his struggle to save the day more poignant. Probably have to tone down the wife beating though, that's not going to go over well w/ anybody.

Don't forget Richards.  If there's one man that'd give him a run for the money on the "oops I -- the whole world" it's Reed.  That man's more trouble than Magneto.  Wouldn't it be a great surprise if they made Mr. Fantastic the creator of Ultron, which sparks a fight between the FF and Avengers, ending in a "oops, it was all a mistake" before getting together to stomp robots?  Well, except for the part where the FF is in it, it'd be cool...


Except that currently Sony owns the rights to any FF, silver surfer, and doom so they cant appear in any disney films?

/movie rights are tearing this family multiverse apart!
 
2013-07-22 06:23:25 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]

How about no.


now this:
[img109.imageshack.us image 500x626]


1: Wow! Who is that?
2: That's gotta be a shoop, that's one hell of a waist to hip ratio.
 
2013-07-22 06:26:59 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: 1: Wow! Who is that?
2: That's gotta be a shoop, that's one hell of a waist to hip ratio.


img22.imageshack.us
img543.imageshack.us
 
2013-07-22 06:27:13 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Son of Thunder: I know I'm old and out of the loop, but what is this?

[cdn.uproxx.com image 335x210]

When did Ultron start looking like Ghost Rider had a baby with the machines from the Matrix?  THIS is Ultron:
[www.worthpoint.com image 200x374]

What number is he up to these days? I remember Ultron-6 and -7.

I don't know if they number him anymore, but he was up to Ultron 16 and 17 in 1999.


There was a storyline in the early 2000s where Ultron took over a country and made hundreds or thousands of himself. So I think it's around 4-5000 or so.
 
2013-07-22 06:30:43 PM  
" I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?"

Real sad that Stephanie Szotak didn't get the part to play Wasp.
She was hot as Agent Brandt in Iron Man but she was smoking as Julia, Ryan's wife in RIPD
media.comicbookmovie.com
 
2013-07-22 06:32:53 PM  

Neeek: There was a storyline in the early 2000s where Ultron took over a country and made hundreds or thousands of himself. So I think it's around 4-5000 or so.


Then there's the whole issue of time travel created clones of Ultron...
 
2013-07-22 06:35:03 PM  
Honestly I'd just like to have the modern Ares join up as a counterbalance to Thor

/the Marvel Dark Reign Ares comic is transcendent.

i731.photobucket.com
i731.photobucket.com
static.comicvine.com
 
2013-07-22 06:39:38 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Hector Remarkable: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron is a metal guy created by Hank Pym.

Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

Also, Ultron's evility led in part to Hank Pym doing a concerto in fist minor on Jan's face.

Did you come up with that phrase?
Cuz, yeah, I'm so gonna steal that. I'm gonna tweak it to say, 'A symphony on his face; a concerto in fist minor".

After a quick google search, I found no hits,so I guess I did come up with it.

Add to it what you like.



Glad that's settled.  I'm gonna co-opt Butt-Frog.
 
2013-07-22 06:43:32 PM  

Optimal_Illusion: I'm gonna co-opt Butt-Frog.


Butt-Frog, the newest comic sensation, watch as he delivers a concerto in fist minor right in a crook's jimmies, followed by a short jazz number by colon cornet in their faces.
 
2013-07-22 06:44:51 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Dingleberry Dickwad: 1: Wow! Who is that?
2: That's gotta be a shoop, that's one hell of a waist to hip ratio.

[img22.imageshack.us image 850x1275]
[img543.imageshack.us image 720x960]


Very nice. Still don't know who she is so I can stalk her, but at least her waist looks normal. Maybe it was just the shadows in the other pic. Still very hot though.
 
2013-07-22 06:47:57 PM  
Just as long as this happens

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-22 06:51:44 PM  

Phaeon: Just as long as this happens

[25.media.tumblr.com image 850x604]



An Escher-esque, bent-handled Mjolnir?  Or a Captain America with no shoulders?

/i keed
 
2013-07-22 06:57:36 PM  

BafflerMeal: Phaeon: Just as long as this happens

[25.media.tumblr.com image 850x604]


An Escher-esque, bent-handled Mjolnir?  Or a Captain America with no shoulders?

/i keed


Cap started working out differently after he saw this in the mirror:

www.anawfulart.com


/now I can't un-see what you pointed in my first pic
 
2013-07-22 07:05:35 PM  

RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?


Has anyone, anywhere, EVER thought this farking meme was funny?

I'd rather pizza-god-damn-jedi in here making the 'stomping shiat down the drain' 'golf ball dimpler' and 'if you know what I mean' memes.

I'd rather have meowthegoddamndog in here making retarded armenian speech.
 
2013-07-22 07:31:54 PM  

1000 Ways to Dye: [www.spburke.com image 500x325]
This guy?


Came for this....

/leaving satisfied
 
2013-07-22 07:46:16 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: BafflerMeal: ParagonComplex: In their description of Hank Pym they left out the fact he's a wife beater. I wonder if that little aspect will make it to the movies. Rhetorical, of course it won't. They wouldn't even let Tony Stark be an alcoholic in the last movie.

Honestly it doesn't matter that much to anyone who reads the comics.  It was a thing that happened once, twenty years ago, and it was a slap.

http://www.jimshooter.com/2011/03/hank-pym-was-not-wife-beater.html

Doesn't matter that much?

It's the only thing he's remembered for!

Mark Millar made him King Wife Beater in the Ultimates!

Brian Bendis made him "guy whose opinion never mattered because he was a wife beater" in Avengers!

Hank Pym's entire existence is summed up as "WIFE BEATER (and created Ultron)."


Do you still have that "slap a biatch" pic of Pym getting slap happy?

Also, let it be known that Reed Richards beats his wife more than Pym ever struck Janet. He needs to call Dr. Light to join a support group for people that can't live down ONE incident.
 
2013-07-22 08:02:36 PM  

loki see loki do: grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]

Oooh, nice.

Esp. if they do the kinky shrink scene w/ Pym.


Eh? 

Explain further... for eh... research purposes.
 
2013-07-22 08:22:42 PM  

Bung_Howdy: Mr. Coffee Nerves: All we know is he's portrayed by MISTER Shia LaBeouf!

[images.wikia.com image 463x259]


Wow. You mention Shia LaBeouf, who I immediately think of as the least talented people on the planet, but then you have a picture of the one guy I think might be less talented. Such a dismal place you've taken me to.
 
2013-07-22 08:26:33 PM  
It's not a "who", it's a plant. It's where Thermoman came from...

internationalhero.co.uk
 
2013-07-22 08:58:56 PM  

BafflerMeal: Honestly it doesn't matter that much to anyone who reads the comics. It was a thing that happened once, twenty years ago, and it was a slap.


I agree. It was actually a really bold move. Showed that anyone can lose their cool. He's lucky she didn't fly up into his urethra and do some damage.
 
2013-07-22 09:16:43 PM  
I'm guessing that Tony Stark is going to build "Ultron" to replace him now that he's retired, and that Thanos will corrupt him and turn him into his general for invasion 2.0.

Just a guess from some guy who's never read the comics but watches a lot of movies.
 
2013-07-22 09:34:32 PM  
Marvel has been trying to rehabilitate Hank for years now. He had a good stint in the Avengers Academy (and a normal healthy relationship with Tigra) and has come through the Age of Ultron series pretty well off - I have book 10 sitting here on my desk right now and in it he "returns" to his super hero-ing ways. They seem to have also set him up to lead a new Avengers team, it might be a mini-series, but it appears to be called "A.I" from the teaser in the back of the book.

Honestly, I hope they stick with and continue to build the new direction. I find that Hank can actually be a very sympathetic character in a lot of ways and I've really disliked the way he's been painted as a borderline personality. (How come all the smart people in comics end up being either calculating emotional rejects or mentally imbalanced? Too many art majors not having sympathy for nerds maybe?)
 
2013-07-22 09:41:50 PM  
...if we get the Frank Cho version of Ultron, we're talking about all-time box office records here...
 
2013-07-22 09:46:08 PM  

Phaeon: Just as long as this happens

[25.media.tumblr.com image 850x604]


Jeez, Captain America is ALL farked up in that pictue if you follow his "natural" body lines. It's like his superpower is elephantitis of the extremities or something.
 
2013-07-22 09:46:32 PM  

Phaeon: Just as long as this happens

[25.media.tumblr.com image 850x604]


Jeez, Captain America is ALL farked up in that picture if you follow his "natural" body lines. It's like his superpower is elephantitis of the extremities or something.
 
2013-07-22 09:49:23 PM  
So if we're getting Ultron without Pym, I'm gonna go with the others saying that Stark has something to do with his creation. So does this mean we're going to get a Jocasta based on Pepper? Because I'd totally love a hot liquid metal Pepper walking around the movie.
 
2013-07-22 10:03:09 PM  
Interestingly enough, Pym *was* mentioned in the Avengers (or Thor, I forget) , just not by name.  There was a line from the cube sciency guy about consulting with a colleague.  After the fact, one of the powers that be said that was specifically a reference to Pym but they didn't want to fully name drop.
 
2013-07-22 10:09:05 PM  

BafflerMeal: Interestingly enough, Pym *was* mentioned in the Avengers (or Thor, I forget) , just not by name.  There was a line from the cube sciency guy about consulting with a colleague.  After the fact, one of the powers that be said that was specifically a reference to Pym but they didn't want to fully name drop.


Ah, it was in Thor:

Collider:  One of the things that I know by looking at the trailers and some of the footage that you released awhile ago is that there are definitely deleted scenes for Thor.  How much stuff did you guys cut to get your two hour running time and is Marvel ever looking into doing extended editions on home video?

Feige:  What are you remembering?

I think a few shots of the Destroyer and I was talking to [co-producer] Craig Kyle and he was mentioning to me that there might have been a reference to Hank Pym in the movie that might've been taken out.

Feige:  That scene is in the movie.  Literally the only thing we took out were the words "Hank Pym".  It was when Selvig, Darcy, and Jane are on the roof and S.H.I.E.L.D.  has just taken all of their stuff.  Darcy is complaining about her laptop and Jane is going, "Who the hell are these guys anyway?"  Selvig then tells a story, which is clearly alluding to Bruce Banner, that he knew a gamma scientist and this thing happened and S.H.I.E.L.D. came up, which he had never heard of again.  Selvig may or may not have all of his facts straight on that, but those are the rumors that go around the science world there.  He goes, "I have a friend who has had experiences with these people.  Let me email him."  That friend is Hank Pym.  But we took out "Hank Pym" because it felt like, "Banner! Hank!"  We were just like, "Enough."
 
2013-07-22 10:13:23 PM  

Fano: FirstNationalBastard: BafflerMeal: ParagonComplex: In their description of Hank Pym they left out the fact he's a wife beater. I wonder if that little aspect will make it to the movies. Rhetorical, of course it won't. They wouldn't even let Tony Stark be an alcoholic in the last movie.

Honestly it doesn't matter that much to anyone who reads the comics.  It was a thing that happened once, twenty years ago, and it was a slap.

http://www.jimshooter.com/2011/03/hank-pym-was-not-wife-beater.html

Doesn't matter that much?

It's the only thing he's remembered for!

Mark Millar made him King Wife Beater in the Ultimates!

Brian Bendis made him "guy whose opinion never mattered because he was a wife beater" in Avengers!

Hank Pym's entire existence is summed up as "WIFE BEATER (and created Ultron)."

Do you still have that "slap a biatch" pic of Pym getting slap happy?

Also, let it be known that Reed Richards beats his wife more than Pym ever struck Janet. He needs to call Dr. Light to join a support group for people that can't live down ONE incident.


Peter Parker did the exact same thing as Pym to MJ; Backhanded her across the room. Nobody says shiat about that.

And MJ wasn't a superhero. Janet was. Janet had been kicked around by Ultron, Crusher Creel, the Wrecking Crew, and the Hulk... But a backhand from Pym when he was clearly not well? That's too much!!!


snowshovel: Phaeon: Just as long as this happens

[25.media.tumblr.com image 850x604]

Jeez, Captain America is ALL farked up in that picture if you follow his "natural" body lines. It's like his superpower is elephantitis of the extremities or something.


Also, in typical Liefeld fashion, no feet are visible in the picture.

/You know he was struggling not to draw pouches everywhere.
 
2013-07-22 10:14:57 PM  

BafflerMeal: BafflerMeal: Interestingly enough, Pym *was* mentioned in the Avengers (or Thor, I forget) , just not by name.  There was a line from the cube sciency guy about consulting with a colleague.  After the fact, one of the powers that be said that was specifically a reference to Pym but they didn't want to fully name drop.

Ah, it was in Thor:

Collider:  One of the things that I know by looking at the trailers and some of the footage that you released awhile ago is that there are definitely deleted scenes for Thor.  How much stuff did you guys cut to get your two hour running time and is Marvel ever looking into doing extended editions on home video?

Feige:  What are you remembering?

I think a few shots of the Destroyer and I was talking to [co-producer] Craig Kyle and he was mentioning to me that there might have been a reference to Hank Pym in the movie that might've been taken out.

Feige:  That scene is in the movie.  Literally the only thing we took out were the words "Hank Pym".  It was when Selvig, Darcy, and Jane are on the roof and S.H.I.E.L.D.  has just taken all of their stuff.  Darcy is complaining about her laptop and Jane is going, "Who the hell are these guys anyway?"  Selvig then tells a story, which is clearly alluding to Bruce Banner, that he knew a gamma scientist and this thing happened and S.H.I.E.L.D. came up, which he had never heard of again.  Selvig may or may not have all of his facts straight on that, but those are the rumors that go around the science world there.  He goes, "I have a friend who has had experiences with these people.  Let me email him."  That friend is Hank Pym.  But we took out "Hank Pym" because it felt like, "Banner! Hank!"  We were just like, "Enough."


Interesting since I just saw Thor last night.  So that's who he was referring to....
 
2013-07-22 10:22:48 PM  

BafflerMeal: BafflerMeal: Interestingly enough, Pym *was* mentioned in the Avengers (or Thor, I forget) , just not by name.  There was a line from the cube sciency guy about consulting with a colleague.  After the fact, one of the powers that be said that was specifically a reference to Pym but they didn't want to fully name drop.

Ah, it was in Thor:

Collider:  One of the things that I know by looking at the trailers and some of the footage that you released awhile ago is that there are definitely deleted scenes for Thor.  How much stuff did you guys cut to get your two hour running time and is Marvel ever looking into doing extended editions on home video?

Feige:  What are you remembering?

I think a few shots of the Destroyer and I was talking to [co-producer] Craig Kyle and he was mentioning to me that there might have been a reference to Hank Pym in the movie that might've been taken out.

Feige:  That scene is in the movie.  Literally the only thing we took out were the words "Hank Pym".  It was when Selvig, Darcy, and Jane are on the roof and S.H.I.E.L.D.  has just taken all of their stuff.  Darcy is complaining about her laptop and Jane is going, "Who the hell are these guys anyway?"  Selvig then tells a story, which is clearly alluding to Bruce Banner, that he knew a gamma scientist and this thing happened and S.H.I.E.L.D. came up, which he had never heard of again.  Selvig may or may not have all of his facts straight on that, but those are the rumors that go around the science world there.  He goes, "I have a friend who has had experiences with these people.  Let me email him."  That friend is Hank Pym.  But we took out "Hank Pym" because it felt like, "Banner! Hank!"  We were just like, "Enough."


So, because of Feige omitting Hank Pym's name from Thor, Joss Whedon isn't compelled to add him to his avengers movies? How sad!
 
2013-07-22 10:24:49 PM  

Jesus McSordid: It's not a "who", it's a plant. It's where Thermoman came from...

internationalhero.co.uk


Oh my God - I had forgotten all about 'My Hero' - and I have the first season on tape (courtesy of WMPT).

/good times...
 
2013-07-22 10:30:10 PM  
I just hope in the Pym movie they cut down on the wife beating. I mean seriously, that guy is like constantly beating his wife.
 
2013-07-22 11:42:36 PM  

texdent: BafflerMeal: [images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 533x800]

I remember that storyline, they had to go get Pym and find him about to fark Tigra. Although at the time, that was really a Skrull acting as Pym.


It should also be noted that the Pym Skrull was originally Criti Noll, a female, having taken the form of a hot coed that Pym got busy with in order for her to get close enough to kidnap him. A later Skrull took over the role after Criti was killed for apparently going native and the replacement was apparently a male, but the one who had the affair with Tigra and fathered her child was Criti Noll. Genderbending with Skrulls, especially ones who were genetically and mentally reconfigured during the Secret Invasion, kind of makes it less hot, but it's still technically a lesbian relationship.

And speaking of genderbending (and what with the pic of the UltronWasp emerging above), the version of Ultron for the movie can be Stark's creation and in return, we can get Ultron hacking Stark's Extremis to make him over as in that pic. Of course, we'd have to either have another female character instead of Janet or Janet would have to be introduced in a hurry. Personally, I'd say have it be Maya Hansen, since the audience already knows her and they could have that she put some of her own DNA in the design of Extremis and movie Ultron could be some kind of outgrowth of JARVIS, Iron Man and Extremis, so that he regards Maya as his mother. That would possibly mean that Jocasta, if they include her, wouldn't have Janet's brain patterns, nor would she be able to have Maya's, so that leaves... Pepper?

Oh, and just as an aside, I've not seen anyone directly speak about it, but the Secret Invasion started when Jessica Drew made a deal with "HYDRA" (a Skrull-dopped HYDRA bigwig) to get her powers back and was in the operating room about to be sedated and kidnapped, the scene in the comics clearly shows a tray with surgical tools and breast implants on it. Spider-Woman's boobs did seem to be bigger during the Secret Invasion, but it wasn't until that shot of her on the table that it is clear how much bigger they really had become, what with artists all having their own idea of what characters look like. But after the real Jessica Drew was returned, it seems her breasts were larger, too. Nice of them to have given her the implants even though they were kidnapping her, eh?
 
2013-07-22 11:48:18 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: So if we're getting Ultron without Pym, I'm gonna go with the others saying that Stark has something to do with his creation. So does this mean we're going to get a Jocasta based on Pepper? Because I'd totally love a hot liquid metal Pepper walking around the movie.


:: Shakes fist, totally agrees ::

But, if Tony Stark creates Ultron instead of Hank Pym, does that mean Tony is going to backhand Pepper?
 
2013-07-22 11:53:40 PM  

Lurk sober post drunk: I just hope in the Pym movie they cut down on the wife beating. I mean seriously, that guy is like constantly beating his wife.


I printed myself a pic of Ant Man and put it on an iron-on transfer. Oh my yes that went on a sleeveless undershirt.

Give him credit, he's a stylish wife beater in Ultimates
www.popgunchaos.com
 
2013-07-23 12:06:56 AM  
ifanboy.com
Hank's had a hard time of it, what with all the people giving him a hard time. I mean, he's the smartest man on Earth if Reed Richards, Bruce Banner, Doctor Doom, Black Panther or Beast aren't busy. In fact, he's canon the second smartest person on earth, but he can talk to the ants and embiggen and shrink himself, so he's a walking punchline. He's irredeemable now.
 
2013-07-23 12:26:21 AM  

Fano: Lurk sober post drunk: I just hope in the Pym movie they cut down on the wife beating. I mean seriously, that guy is like constantly beating his wife.

I printed myself a pic of Ant Man and put it on an iron-on transfer. Oh my yes that went on a sleeveless undershirt.

Give him credit, he's a stylish wife beater in Ultimates
[www.popgunchaos.com image 850x1307]


That more looks like wife murderer then beater.
 
2013-07-23 12:37:52 AM  

Fano: [ifanboy.com image 400x399]
Hank's had a hard time of it, what with all the people giving him a hard time. I mean, he's the smartest man on Earth if Reed Richards, Bruce Banner, Doctor Doom, Black Panther or Beast aren't busy. In fact, he's canon the second smartest person on earth, ...


On that note:

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static.comicvine.com
 
2013-07-23 01:08:26 AM  
Awesome choice for a bad guy.
 
2013-07-23 01:36:37 AM  

Grotesk: Dingleberry Dickwad: So if we're getting Ultron without Pym, I'm gonna go with the others saying that Stark has something to do with his creation. So does this mean we're going to get a Jocasta based on Pepper? Because I'd totally love a hot liquid metal Pepper walking around the movie.

:: Shakes fist, totally agrees ::

But, if Tony Stark creates Ultron instead of Hank Pym, does that mean Tony is going to backhand Pepper?


In her current post-Iron Man 3 state, won't Tony break his hand trying to do that?
 
2013-07-23 01:49:39 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Ultron is a metal guy created by Hank Pym.

Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.


And the Vision was created from the ORIGINAL golden-age era Human Torch.

i41.tinypic.com


And the clusterfark of Marvel continuity continued.
 
2013-07-23 02:01:33 AM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: The Stealth Hippopotamus: grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]

How about no.


now this:
[img109.imageshack.us image 500x626]

1: Wow! Who is that?
2: That's gotta be a shoop, that's one hell of a waist to hip ratio.


You could say that she has...

*puts on sunglasses*

...a wasp waist.

YYEEEAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!
 
2013-07-23 02:25:30 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Who said you need to have an extensive knowledge of the Marvel universe to enjoy their movies?


Which shows what a good movie is in this context.  Should appeal to existing fans who do know WTF is going on and also people who don't.

/Really liked Avengers Assemble.
//Not to be confused with The Avengers.
 
2013-07-23 03:13:45 AM  
As a non-comic book person, what I'm really curious about is: How do you pronounce "Pym". Peem? Peyem? Pim?
 
2013-07-23 04:11:54 AM  

TV's Vinnie: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron is a metal guy created by Hank Pym.

Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

And the Vision was created from the ORIGINAL golden-age era Human Torch.




And the clusterfark of Marvel continuity continued.


Don't forget that the brainwaves of Wonder Man were used as the basis of Vision's personality.
 
2013-07-23 05:26:11 AM  

Mad_Radhu: In her current post-Iron Man 3 state, won't Tony break his hand trying to do that?


And probably wear his balls for earrings as well.
 
2013-07-23 06:04:33 AM  

grokca: I don't care that much about Ultron but can we have this?
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 480x334]


From your lips to Whedon's ears.

/Yowza
 
2013-07-23 06:40:09 AM  

Dr. Whoof: If you fall into the third set, people who didn't like Avengers and aren't comic fans, this article isn't going to make you want to see it.


Based on the response to the first movie, this small segment of the population isn't worth bothering with.
 
2013-07-23 06:52:48 AM  
Vin Diesel as Thanos? Dafuq?
 
2013-07-23 07:37:07 AM  

Virtuoso80: As a non-comic book person, what I'm really curious about is: How do you pronounce "Pym". Peem? Peyem? Pim?


Pim
 
2013-07-23 07:41:08 AM  
Here's what I don't understand...  If you were building a robot that you weren't intending to be evil, why would you make it look like Ultron?
 
2013-07-23 08:06:57 AM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dog Welder: RyansPrivates: dittybopper: Isn't she that English woman who's show spawned The Simpsons?  Yeah, Tracy Ultron.

No, your'e thinking of Allman, as in the Allman Brothers.  She is their sister.  Ultron: that is the guy who started Wal-Mart: Sam Ultron.  I guess the Avengers are going to be fighting globalization?

While we could probably all get behind the fight against globalization, you are thinking of Sam Walton.  Ultron is that old timey family from the old TV show, The Ultrons, where the cast would spend most of the hour telling each other "good night," as in "Good night, John Boy Ultron."

It was a boring show.

No, no, no. Ultron John is that British singer -- he did Crocodile Rock. I'm guessing the plot of this one is going to be how Ultron takes control of the Hulk through music and the team can only be saved by a positive female character who's music-based and will really, um, 'dazzle' the 10-17 female demographic.

I've no idea if it was intentional, but you pretty much just described the plot of Mayhem of the Music Meister from season 1 of Batman: the Brave and the Bold.


Voiced by Neil Patrick Harris even!
 
2013-07-23 08:13:48 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Here's what I don't understand...  If you were building a robot that you weren't intending to be evil, why would you make it look like Ultron?


The first version of Ultron that was seen was Ultron V. Designed by Ultron IV.
 
2013-07-23 08:33:32 AM  

Neeek: The first version of Ultron that was seen was Ultron V. Designed by Ultron IV.


That doesn't answer the question.  At what point did the Ultron series decide go all "hey baby, what do you say we get together and kill all humans?"  I think it's obvious that was a deliberate design feature, rather then the unit going rogue.  You don't put a head on a robot like that if you DON'T intend for it to kill all humans.
 
2013-07-23 08:55:25 AM  
If they do this right, it could be pretty cool.

i.annihil.us
 
2013-07-23 08:58:20 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Grotesk: Dingleberry Dickwad: So if we're getting Ultron without Pym, I'm gonna go with the others saying that Stark has something to do with his creation. So does this mean we're going to get a Jocasta based on Pepper? Because I'd totally love a hot liquid metal Pepper walking around the movie.

:: Shakes fist, totally agrees ::

But, if Tony Stark creates Ultron instead of Hank Pym, does that mean Tony is going to backhand Pepper?

In her current post-Iron Man 3 state, won't Tony break his hand trying to do that?


Tony did the Exremis workout, too, remember. But Pepper would likely break his hand and his balls if he ever did that to her.

Satanic_Hamster: Here's what I don't understand...  If you were building a robot that you weren't intending to be evil, why would you make it look like Ultron?


He didn't. The first Ultron looked a lot like a portable space heater. On wheels, no less. But it went from "Da-Da" to "Your human brain is a mere toy for me" within minutes of its creation and then redesigned itself. Then again, and again, etc., etc.. Ultron is basically a self-made evil bot. Strange that he kind of resembles Annihilus, although Thanos resembles a Skrull, so...
 
2013-07-23 09:06:13 AM  

kroonermanblack: I'd rather pizza-god-damn-jedi in here making the 'stomping shiat down the drain' 'golf ball dimpler' and 'if you know what I mean' memes.


Hey, I only do one of those.
 
2013-07-23 09:07:47 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Grotesk: Dingleberry Dickwad: So if we're getting Ultron without Pym, I'm gonna go with the others saying that Stark has something to do with his creation. So does this mean we're going to get a Jocasta based on Pepper? Because I'd totally love a hot liquid metal Pepper walking around the movie.

:: Shakes fist, totally agrees ::

But, if Tony Stark creates Ultron instead of Hank Pym, does that mean Tony is going to backhand Pepper?

In her current post-Iron Man 3 state, won't Tony break his hand trying to do that?


How so? I seem to remember it being mentioned that Extremis was successfully removed from Pepper. I believe Tony's narration mentioned it when he, himself was going under the knife to remove the arc reactor and shrapnel from his chest.
 
2013-07-23 09:21:56 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Dingleberry Dickwad: 1: Wow! Who is that?
2: That's gotta be a shoop, that's one hell of a waist to hip ratio.

[img22.imageshack.us image 850x1275]
[img543.imageshack.us image 720x960]


I'd blast her with something bio-electric, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.

/see, kroonermanblack, THAT'S the one I do. I actually kinda hate the other two, but whatever.
 
2013-07-23 09:28:50 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Kinek: Butbutbut Frog of thunder!

Heh.  Butt Frog.


I prefer Brick Frog.
img10.imageshack.us
 
2013-07-23 09:53:20 AM  

kroonermanblack: Has anyone, anywhere, EVER thought this farking meme was funny?


If only there was a link on the page to see what people thought was funny?  Oh wait there is, be right back.

....

I see a grand total of 6 funny votes for iterations of this meme, so roughly 6/200, which is about 3 percent of the posters.  So yes, there are people somewhere who thought this was funny.  Obviously you don't.  So why not shut the hell up and let the rest of us that do enjoy the thread?
 
2013-07-23 10:07:48 AM  
Ultron once decimated a country and arranged the corpses in a mosaic of his face the was visible from space.  Ultron is one bad mother.
 
2013-07-23 10:11:12 AM  

RyansPrivates: So why not shut the hell up and let the rest of us that do enjoy the thread?


i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-07-23 10:14:14 AM  

Walker: Boojum2k: Walker: fanboys know who they are

Iron Man was not very well known outside of comic fans. The Marvel Cinematic Universe cachet will be enough to draw in the opening crowd, word of mouth will make it a success.

Keep believing that.


I know I'm late to the game here, but Boojum2k's statement is absolutely spot on. Walker, you're wrong.
 
2013-07-23 10:26:06 AM  

2CountyFairs: Mad_Radhu: Grotesk: Dingleberry Dickwad: So if we're getting Ultron without Pym, I'm gonna go with the others saying that Stark has something to do with his creation. So does this mean we're going to get a Jocasta based on Pepper? Because I'd totally love a hot liquid metal Pepper walking around the movie.

:: Shakes fist, totally agrees ::

But, if Tony Stark creates Ultron instead of Hank Pym, does that mean Tony is going to backhand Pepper?

In her current post-Iron Man 3 state, won't Tony break his hand trying to do that?

How so? I seem to remember it being mentioned that Extremis was successfully removed from Pepper. I believe Tony's narration mentioned it when he, himself was going under the knife to remove the arc reactor and shrapnel from his chest.


Speaking of which, why was Stark able to get all that shiat removed from his chest?  Why didn't he do it right when he got back from the middle east, or when he was dying in IM2?
 
2013-07-23 10:55:07 AM  

Super_pope: Ultron once decimated a country and arranged the corpses in a mosaic of his face the was visible from space.  Ultron is one bad mother.


-- Shut yo' mouth!

/He's a complicated bot, and no one understands him but Jocasta.

Orgasmatron138: 2CountyFairs: Mad_Radhu: Grotesk: Dingleberry Dickwad: So if we're getting Ultron without Pym, I'm gonna go with the others saying that Stark has something to do with his creation. So does this mean we're going to get a Jocasta based on Pepper? Because I'd totally love a hot liquid metal Pepper walking around the movie.

:: Shakes fist, totally agrees ::

But, if Tony Stark creates Ultron instead of Hank Pym, does that mean Tony is going to backhand Pepper?

In her current post-Iron Man 3 state, won't Tony break his hand trying to do that?

How so? I seem to remember it being mentioned that Extremis was successfully removed from Pepper. I believe Tony's narration mentioned it when he, himself was going under the knife to remove the arc reactor and shrapnel from his chest.

Speaking of which, why was Stark able to get all that shiat removed from his chest?  Why didn't he do it right when he got back from the middle east, or when he was dying in IM2?


Tony said he'd "Fix" Pepper. He didn't say he'd remove Extremis, just stabilize it so she wouldn't explode or die or whatever. Then he shot himself up with Extremis 2.0 (or 2.5 or whatever) so that he could survive having the big metal can, ARC reactor, pacemaker and magnet removed from his chest without having to get a transplant and have a giant hole left. Since he's ...well, Tony Stark... you can bet he tweaked the version of Extremis he gave himself so that he has more than just a one-time healing factor. Even in the movies he wouldn't be the sort to let such an opportunity pass. So with Avengers 2 and later, expect Tony and Iron Man to have lots more stuff he can do. Also, hopefully, we'll see Pepper as Rescue with a purpose-built suit. And War Machine should get some Chitauri tech so he can be more like the upgraded version from the comics. Not to mention Tony might try to work out some Chitauri and Asgardian tech now that he can have an overclocked central nervous system and nuclear metabolism. Which brings us back to the whole Movie Ultron thing.
 
2013-07-23 11:19:46 AM  

Grotesk: Super_pope: Ultron once decimated a country and arranged the corpses in a mosaic of his face the was visible from space.  Ultron is one bad mother.

-- Shut yo' mouth!

/He's a complicated bot, and no one understands him but Jocasta.

Orgasmatron138: 2CountyFairs: Mad_Radhu: Grotesk: Dingleberry Dickwad: So if we're getting Ultron without Pym, I'm gonna go with the others saying that Stark has something to do with his creation. So does this mean we're going to get a Jocasta based on Pepper? Because I'd totally love a hot liquid metal Pepper walking around the movie.

:: Shakes fist, totally agrees ::

But, if Tony Stark creates Ultron instead of Hank Pym, does that mean Tony is going to backhand Pepper?

In her current post-Iron Man 3 state, won't Tony break his hand trying to do that?

How so? I seem to remember it being mentioned that Extremis was successfully removed from Pepper. I believe Tony's narration mentioned it when he, himself was going under the knife to remove the arc reactor and shrapnel from his chest.

Speaking of which, why was Stark able to get all that shiat removed from his chest?  Why didn't he do it right when he got back from the middle east, or when he was dying in IM2?

Tony said he'd "Fix" Pepper. He didn't say he'd remove Extremis, just stabilize it so she wouldn't explode or die or whatever. Then he shot himself up with Extremis 2.0 (or 2.5 or whatever) so that he could survive having the big metal can, ARC reactor, pacemaker and magnet removed from his chest without having to get a transplant and have a giant hole left. Since he's ...well, Tony Stark... you can bet he tweaked the version of Extremis he gave himself so that he has more than just a one-time healing factor. Even in the movies he wouldn't be the sort to let such an opportunity pass. So with Avengers 2 and later, expect Tony and Iron Man to have lots more stuff he can do. Also, hopefully, we'll see Pepper as Rescue with a purpose-built suit. And War Machine should get some C ...


Thanks.  My wife and I usually sneak a flask of rum into the movies to go with our cokes, so I don't always pick up all the details by the end.
 
2013-07-23 12:07:57 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Fano: Lurk sober post drunk: I just hope in the Pym movie they cut down on the wife beating. I mean seriously, that guy is like constantly beating his wife.

I printed myself a pic of Ant Man and put it on an iron-on transfer. Oh my yes that went on a sleeveless undershirt.

Give him credit, he's a stylish wife beater in Ultimates
[www.popgunchaos.com image 850x1307]

That more looks like wife murderer then beater.


In the Ultimate's version he actually did attempt to kill his wife and at first thought that he had done so.
 
2013-07-23 06:42:36 PM  

TV's Vinnie: FirstNationalBastard: Ultron is a metal guy created by Hank Pym.

Ultron, in turn, created the Vision.

And the Vision was created from the ORIGINAL golden-age era Human Torch.

[i41.tinypic.com image 446x436]


ACTUALLY,no, he wasn't. Jim Hammond, the original Human Torch , was still around. The body that became The Vision was a duplicate of the Human Torch created by Immortus.
 
2013-07-23 11:44:25 PM  

Neeek: FirstNationalBastard: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Son of Thunder: I know I'm old and out of the loop, but what is this?

[cdn.uproxx.com image 335x210]

When did Ultron start looking like Ghost Rider had a baby with the machines from the Matrix?  THIS is Ultron:
[www.worthpoint.com image 200x374]

What number is he up to these days? I remember Ultron-6 and -7.

I don't know if they number him anymore, but he was up to Ultron 16 and 17 in 1999.

There was a storyline in the early 2000s where Ultron took over a country and made hundreds or thousands of himself. So I think it's around 4-5000 or so.


He didn't just take over a country, it killed off it's entire population, and like you I had thought it was in the early 2000's but checking my pdf files, it was in 1999.  Here are the covers from back then:
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And a shot from that last issue
i630.photobucket.com
 
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