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(Onion AV Club)   Twenty-two movies released between January and July--the "dead" months--that won Best Picture at the Oscars   (avclub.com) divider line 77
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2013-07-22 09:21:26 AM
It's not that they are always dead months, there are at times movies where the studio think it could do well but is afraid of releasing them during competition months like June, July, August. So they release them in safe territory hoping that they gain legs.
 
2013-07-22 09:31:53 AM
Okay, did anyone else hate Hurt Locker as much as I did? I thought it was an over-rated, meandering mess that had no real, coherent plot, and did not delevop the characters past, essentially, the charicature stage. We watched it well after it was on dvd. When I looked at my wife after, my first words were, "Well, that was two hours of my life I want back."
 
2013-07-22 09:41:43 AM

PizzaJedi81: Okay, did anyone else hate Hurt Locker as much as I did? I thought it was an over-rated, meandering mess that had no real, coherent plot, and did not delevop the characters past, essentially, the charicature stage. We watched it well after it was on dvd. When I looked at my wife after, my first words were, "Well, that was two hours of my life I want back."


Yes. But if you don't like it you're a woman hating war loving heartless SOB.
 
2013-07-22 09:43:21 AM

MichiganFTL: But if you don't like it you're a woman hating war loving heartless SOB.


Then I need to add it to my Fark profile, apparently.
 
2013-07-22 09:44:36 AM
I loved it.  Strictly speaking as a veteran.  The director captured the viewpoint of the people on the ground very well.  It doesn't look that way to the brass or to the media but it sure looks a lot like that to the participants. There was certainly some artistic license taken but all in all pretty close.
 
2013-07-22 09:45:19 AM
Should movies that opened in the pre-multiplex, pre-home video days count?
Up until the late 70s, it really didn't matter when a movie opened, because there weren't enough prints for a wide release. Some cities wouldn't get a certain movie for months, and in many cases, the average theatrical run was up to a year or longer.
 
2013-07-22 10:01:11 AM

PizzaJedi81: Okay, did anyone else hate Hurt Locker as much as I did? I thought it was an over-rated, meandering mess that had no real, coherent plot, and did not delevop the characters past, essentially, the charicature stage. We watched it well after it was on dvd. When I looked at my wife after, my first words were, "Well, that was two hours of my life I want back."


Yep. I was like, this is the movie everyone is going nuts about?

I'm trained in some of what he does in the movie. Nobody in my unit would put up with a guy like that.
 
2013-07-22 10:05:13 AM
i always figured that the 'dead' months was the time to release good movies.  while the blockbuster months was the time to release pulp tripe to make money.  and then, release a melodramatic politically motivated sympathetic drivel around oscar time.
 
2013-07-22 10:08:23 AM

PizzaJedi81: Okay, did anyone else hate Hurt Locker as much as I did?


Hate is too strong a word. Once it ended my first thoughts were "yep, that was a movie".

I did not see what the big deal was and I was really surprised when it took home all those Oscars (I thought Precious was going to be the film to beat that year).
 
2013-07-22 10:11:54 AM
Normally A.V. Club lists are highly interesting.  But this topic?  I couldn't care less, really.
 
2013-07-22 10:30:44 AM

PizzaJedi81: Okay, did anyone else hate Hurt Locker as much as I did? I thought it was an over-rated, meandering mess that had no real, coherent plot, and did not delevop the characters past, essentially, the charicature stage. We watched it well after it was on dvd. When I looked at my wife after, my first words were, "Well, that was two hours of my life I want back."


This. Also: "Zero Dark Thirty" was a mediocre piece of feminist crap.
 
2013-07-22 10:39:25 AM

PizzaJedi81: Okay, did anyone else hate Hurt Locker as much as I did?


It had its moments, what made it good though was not the film nor the subject matter but Renner's performance.
 
2013-07-22 10:41:09 AM
One of my all-time favorites is listed at #1. AV Club finally throws me a bone before it jets off into pretentious snob territory.

/And I'm sure AV Club will follow this with five or six articles about Wye Oak, Dawes, Girl Talk and Zooey Deschanel to make up for it.
//I only know who those are because of AV Club's circlejerking.
 
2013-07-22 10:44:11 AM
"But Coppola, who has repeatedly described its making as the worst working experience of his life, "

I thought we were talking about The Godfather, not Apocalypse Now
 
2013-07-22 10:49:32 AM

pute kisses like a man: i always figured that the 'dead' months was the time to release good movies.  while the blockbuster months was the time to release pulp tripe to make money.  and then, release a melodramatic politically motivated sympathetic drivel around oscar time.


The summer blockbuster was invented by Steven Spielberg. Before that people only went to movies in the summer for free air-conditioning.
 
2013-07-22 10:56:18 AM

Fano: pute kisses like a man: i always figured that the 'dead' months was the time to release good movies.  while the blockbuster months was the time to release pulp tripe to make money.  and then, release a melodramatic politically motivated sympathetic drivel around oscar time.

The summer blockbuster was invented by Steven Spielberg. Before that people only went to movies in the summer for free air-conditioning.


Hence why over half the movies on that list were released before  Jaws.
 
2013-07-22 11:09:08 AM

stoli n coke: Should movies that opened in the pre-multiplex, pre-home video days count?
Up until the late 70s, it really didn't matter when a movie opened, because there weren't enough prints for a wide release. Some cities wouldn't get a certain movie for months, and in many cases, the average theatrical run was up to a year or longer.


The theater where I saw Star Wars the first (eleven) time ran it, and only it, for over a year.
 
2013-07-22 11:11:48 AM

PizzaJedi81: Okay, did anyone else hate Hurt Locker as much as I did? I thought it was an over-rated, meandering mess that had no real, coherent plot, and did not delevop the characters past, essentially, the charicature stage. We watched it well after it was on dvd. When I looked at my wife after, my first words were, "Well, that was two hours of my life I want back."


You're not alone.  "Crash" was also a piece of crap.
 
2013-07-22 11:16:00 AM
So they have run the awards more than 80 times I think, and the first half of the year accounts for 22 of the best picture awards, so on those stats it seems the second half of the year is 3 times more likely to get best picture, and thus the first half of the year do seem like dead months.
 
2013-07-22 11:17:55 AM
damn those animal head masks scare the F out of me.  movies, videos, whatever... super creepy
 
2013-07-22 11:19:01 AM
On The Waterfront (1954)
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Come on, there are no theaters on the waterfront!
 
2013-07-22 11:20:22 AM
I liked The Hurt Locker quite a damn lot but then when the producers started suing the shiat out of file sharers I refused to see it again or purchase it, despite the fact that it's when I would definitely own under normal circumstances.

YOU LOST MY $20, YOU STUPID F*CKS.

Also, Zero Dark Thirty is a piece of farking garbage.
 
2013-07-22 11:21:37 AM

that bosnian sniper: Fano: pute kisses like a man: i always figured that the 'dead' months was the time to release good movies.  while the blockbuster months was the time to release pulp tripe to make money.  and then, release a melodramatic politically motivated sympathetic drivel around oscar time.

The summer blockbuster was invented by Steven Spielberg. Before that people only went to movies in the summer for free air-conditioning.

Hence why over half the movies on that list were released before  Jaws.


mind blown
 
2013-07-22 11:22:05 AM

markfara: Zero Dark Thirty


What? You don't believe the only reason the USA and CIA kept after Bin Laden was because some lone, mid-level female agent kept pressuring higher-ups?
 
2013-07-22 11:34:50 AM

championgoober: damn those animal head masks scare the F out of me.  movies, videos, whatever... super creepy


oops wrong thread
 
2013-07-22 11:39:05 AM
I didn't realize the studio made Mad Mel take the lead role in Braveheart. I thought he just wanted to be a d bag hero with an annoying fake accent.

love the movie, though. to think it almost didn't happen.
 
2013-07-22 11:39:30 AM
Crash and Gladiator didn't deserve their Best Picture Oscars. And I still can't believe Forrest Gump won Best Picture over Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction was good and influenced a lot of movies that came after it.
 
2013-07-22 11:43:43 AM

skinink


Crash and Gladiator didn't deserve their Best Picture Oscars. And I still can't believe Forrest Gump won Best Picture over Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction was good and influenced a lot of movies that came after it.


Gump was more family-oriented and had a soundtrack made for Boomers, i.e. broader appeal.

And Hanks did not go full retard, which probably helped.
 
2013-07-22 11:44:43 AM
Shawshank was a better BP than Pulp Fiction, as much as I love Pulp Fiction.
 
2013-07-22 11:46:33 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Shawshank was a better BP than Pulp Fiction, as much as I love Pulp Fiction.


That was a hard year to call, good competition the entire way around, but I gotta agree that Shawshank was the better film that year. From pacing, plot, dialogue, sound track, cinematography....you have to work to find flaws in the film.
 
2013-07-22 12:01:13 PM

markfara: This. Also: "Zero Dark Thirty" was a mediocre piece of feminist crap.


It was better than Argo.

I'm pretty sure Iranians aren't the exact same as zombies. I'm also very sure that Canada got screwed in the making of that picture.
 
2013-07-22 12:08:59 PM

homarjr: markfara: This. Also: "Zero Dark Thirty" was a mediocre piece of feminist crap.

It was better than Argo.

I'm pretty sure Iranians aren't the exact same as zombies. I'm also very sure that Canada got screwed in the making of that picture.


When Jimmy Carter is criticizing the accuracy of your film there's a problem.
 
2013-07-22 12:20:50 PM

Flappyhead: homarjr: markfara: This. Also: "Zero Dark Thirty" was a mediocre piece of feminist crap.

It was better than Argo.

I'm pretty sure Iranians aren't the exact same as zombies. I'm also very sure that Canada got screwed in the making of that picture.

When Jimmy Carter is criticizing the accuracy of your film there's a problem.


Oh shiat, are the Canadians getting truculent again?
 
2013-07-22 12:20:54 PM

skinink: And I still can't believe Forrest Gump won Best Picture over Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction was good and influenced a lot of movies that came after it.


This. Goddammit I hated Forrest Gump.

Oh and fark Annie Hall for winning best picture over Star Wars.
 
2013-07-22 12:26:02 PM
Oh good another chance for to say how badly The Hurt Locker sucked. 
I made it 25 minutes into The Hurt Locker. I watched in on bootleg sitting in a small combat outpost in southern Iraq.
I was in Baghdad where the movie took place, in 2006 when the movie took place. It was absolutely nothing like that. I'm not saying I needed Saving Private Ryan Omaha beach verisimilitude, but something resembling reality would be nice.
As great as having EOD nearby was, they are not all encompassing bad-asses. They're actually quite fragile. They have a specific job to do and in order to get them to do that job, you have to sit around and wait for them to get there. While they spool up all their toys and their security. They're not johnny-on-the-spot assets. And they certainly did not roll around Baghdad all by their awesome lonesome. They usually had giant trails of security in tow. I am I grateful for the handful of bombs they defused for us? Kinda, but sitting around pulling security for 6 hours waiting for them to show up was also a really good way to get mortared, rocketed, or sniped. 
Speaking of which, no one rolled around alone. At least by choice. I was left behind from a convoy once. And it was terrifying driving around Baghdad in the dark in just a single vehicle trying to find the rest of the convoy. No one chooses to do that. Especially not if you're EOD. There was no commandeering of local national vehicles and the one guy I heard about from a nearby fob who left the fob by himself was luckily returned to by some Iraqi Police who stopped him and brough him back before he was found in sewage plant with holes drilled through his eyes and kneecaps (which was the style at the time).
The movie had no concept of how rank structure worked.
It had no idea how PTSD manifests itself, nor how combat stress counselors work. I knew lots of guys who loved the war, but none of them fit that "adrenaline junkie" stereotype that Bigelow loved so much she made a whole other movie about it called Point Break. 
It infuriates me that this crap pile of movie is the movie that everyone points to as "the definitive movie about the Iraq war." It's like calling The Lord of the Rings "the definitive movie about the 100 Years War" because they both had swords in them.
 
2013-07-22 12:28:49 PM
The Hurt Locker was Top Gun without airplanes
 
2013-07-22 12:31:38 PM

Crewmannumber6: The Hurt Locker was Top Gun without airplanes


so it was a big gay romance?

/ did not watch hurt locker
 
2013-07-22 12:38:09 PM

pute kisses like a man: mind blown


Even better, is I counted.

Of the seven post-Jaws movies on that list, only two were released before the first weekend in May -- the kickoff for "summer blockbuster" season:  Annie Hall and  Silence of the Lambs. The other five were released between May and July.
 
2013-07-22 12:41:14 PM
Crash and Gump are both offensively bad. Gladiator is bad, but at least it entertained.
 
2013-07-22 12:42:21 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: skinink

Crash and Gladiator didn't deserve their Best Picture Oscars. And I still can't believe Forrest Gump won Best Picture over Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction was good and influenced a lot of movies that came after it.


Gump was more family-oriented and had a soundtrack made for Boomers, i.e. broader appeal.

And Hanks did not go full retard, which probably helped.


It was Gary Sinese's (the CGI boosted his Oscar win) and Robin Wright's (got screwed by the voters) film.
 
2013-07-22 12:55:58 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Also, Zero Dark Thirty is a piece of farking garbage.


THIS
 
2013-07-22 01:01:29 PM

Mugato: skinink: And I still can't believe Forrest Gump won Best Picture over Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction was good and influenced a lot of movies that came after it.

This. Goddammit I hated Forrest Gump.

Oh and fark Annie Hall for winning best picture over Star Wars.


That.  "Annie Hall" is only known mostly to those that are fans of Woody Allen's movies.  "Star Wars" is a damn great movie and a being of Americana.
 
2013-07-22 01:04:31 PM

johnny queso: Crash and Gump are both offensively bad. Gladiator is bad, but at least it entertained.


I sort of enjoyed Crash but not sure why and I've only watched it once. Gump was an entertaining story and fun. but again not a movie I watch over and over again.

I haven't seen Hurt locker and really have no desire and even less desire after seeing less then stellar comments about it on here. I saw Argo and found it a decent movie but not Oscar worthy and less Oscar worthy after reading how inaccurate is the storyline.
 
2013-07-22 01:06:54 PM

johnny queso: Crash and Gump are both offensively bad. Gladiator is bad, but at least it entertained.


Crash was strange, but definitely worth watching, plus Deborah Kara Unger takes it from behind on an airplane wing.
 
2013-07-22 01:12:20 PM
You may not care for Zero Dark or Crash, but they are in no way as bad as two of the older films on the list.

The Greatest Show on Earth is a sad, tired film - even Jimmy Stewart's scenes seem like a funeral.

Gigi just comes across today as creepy (it opens with a guy singing about little girls in a fake French accent) and anyway the music sucks.

Zero Dark 30 is Hamlet compared to these crapfests.
 
2013-07-22 01:15:11 PM
so 7/12 of the year produced only 22 out of 85 best picture winners? and the point of this was?
 
2013-07-22 01:17:51 PM

Crewmannumber6: Deborah Kara Unger


After some research...have her bathed and brought to my chambers.

Uewebawo: and the point of this was?


Page views which could equal ad revenue.
 
2013-07-22 01:17:58 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: skinink

Crash and Gladiator didn't deserve their Best Picture Oscars. And I still can't believe Forrest Gump won Best Picture over Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction was good and influenced a lot of movies that came after it.


Gump was more family-oriented and had a soundtrack made for Boomers, i.e. broader appeal.

And Hanks did not go full retard, which probably helped.


There were plenty of movies better than Forrest Gump that year, but Gump captured the right-leaning members of the Academy with it's Conservative message and the left-leaners with the presence of the stars. Pulp Fiction did nothing for the right-leaners and made some of the left-leaners uncomfortable. More often than not, Academy voting is a political statement.
 
2013-07-22 01:24:28 PM

Jekylman: Englebert Slaptyback: skinink

Crash and Gladiator didn't deserve their Best Picture Oscars. And I still can't believe Forrest Gump won Best Picture over Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction was good and influenced a lot of movies that came after it.


Gump was more family-oriented and had a soundtrack made for Boomers, i.e. broader appeal.

And Hanks did not go full retard, which probably helped.

There were plenty of movies better than Forrest Gump that year, but Gump captured the right-leaning members of the Academy with it's Conservative message and the left-leaners with the presence of the stars. Pulp Fiction did nothing for the right-leaners and made some of the left-leaners uncomfortable. More often than not, Academy voting is a political statement.


Don't forget being able to pat yourself on the back for being "progressive" by being so "daring" as to applaud a movie being completely uncontroversial about a controversial issue (Philadelphia)
 
2013-07-22 01:42:46 PM
What's the worst thing that happened in the 1999 Academy Awards?

Saving Private Ryan losing to Shakespeare in Love? Or American History X not even being nominated?

Edward Norton should have won over Reberto Farking Benigni.
 
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