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(Orlando Sentinel)   Man arrested for luring and kidnapping children using the old "free candy" gambit   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 71
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2013-07-22 09:15:53 AM
Kyle told detectives he was considering kidnapping again.

So, points for honesty?
 
2013-07-22 09:19:56 AM
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He looks like he says gudnummit a lot...
 
2013-07-22 09:36:49 AM
Put a bullet in this dirtbags ear.
 
2013-07-22 09:38:22 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Put a bullet in this dirtbags ear.


That won't do much.
 
2013-07-22 09:38:29 AM

Sybarite: Kyle told detectives he was considering kidnapping again.

So, points for honesty?


The problem is that the guy is sick, but instead of treating it as a sickness we treat it as a crime. But it's gotten lost in the last 20-30 years that the purpose of punishment is to correct, except in the cases where the action is grievous enough to warrant a lifetime of incarceration, and even then corrective action should be taken.

It's fascinating to watch old shows like Dragnet and Adam-12 and see the emphasis that was put on rehabilitation and recognizing sickness for treatment.

/Republican
 
2013-07-22 09:40:30 AM
Picture of the suspect's car:
www.funnyrush.com

/hot like Orlando in the summer.
 
2013-07-22 09:40:56 AM

Sybarite: Kyle told detectives he was considering kidnapping again.

So, points for honesty?


He's keeping his options open.
 
2013-07-22 09:41:04 AM
i266.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-22 09:43:04 AM

Carousel Beast: Sybarite: Kyle told detectives he was considering kidnapping again.

So, points for honesty?

The problem is that the guy is sick, but instead of treating it as a sickness we treat it as a crime. But it's gotten lost in the last 20-30 years that the purpose of punishment is to correct, except in the cases where the action is grievous enough to warrant a lifetime of incarceration, and even then corrective action should be taken.

It's fascinating to watch old shows like Dragnet and Adam-12 and see the emphasis that was put on rehabilitation and recognizing sickness for treatment.

/Republican


yes, put him on a drug treatment to curb his desire to rape children and let's hope that he doesn't not take those drugs and not rape/murder kids again.
 
2013-07-22 09:43:08 AM

Carousel Beast: Sybarite: Kyle told detectives he was considering kidnapping again.

So, points for honesty?

The problem is that the guy is sick, but instead of treating it as a sickness we treat it as a crime. But it's gotten lost in the last 20-30 years that the purpose of punishment is to correct, except in the cases where the action is grievous enough to warrant a lifetime of incarceration, and even then corrective action should be taken.

It's fascinating to watch old shows like Dragnet and Adam-12 and see the emphasis that was put on rehabilitation and recognizing sickness for treatment.

/Republican


Yeah, I miss the days of throwing them in the bedlam, too.
 
2013-07-22 09:43:53 AM
♫ ♬  I throw your children in my van sometimes, saying AYOO , I'm a pedo!♫ ♬
3.bp.blogspot.com
Get in kids, Wanna see the Minions?
 
2013-07-22 09:43:57 AM
It starts here.
farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2013-07-22 09:45:52 AM
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2013-07-22 09:46:30 AM
Dad?
 
2013-07-22 09:46:55 AM
That's a scary looking dude, I am not sure how he convinces children to go near him, even with the candy.
 
2013-07-22 09:49:02 AM

jaybeezey: Carousel Beast: Sybarite: Kyle told detectives he was considering kidnapping again.

So, points for honesty?

The problem is that the guy is sick, but instead of treating it as a sickness we treat it as a crime. But it's gotten lost in the last 20-30 years that the purpose of punishment is to correct, except in the cases where the action is grievous enough to warrant a lifetime of incarceration, and even then corrective action should be taken.

It's fascinating to watch old shows like Dragnet and Adam-12 and see the emphasis that was put on rehabilitation and recognizing sickness for treatment.

/Republican

yes, put him on a drug treatment to curb his desire to rape children and let's hope that he doesn't not take those drugs and not rape/murder kids again.


Wow, you have stunningly pathetic reading comprehension.
 
2013-07-22 09:50:22 AM
i266.photobucket.com

Snatchey the Clown. Number two in the Gacy Collection.
/not sure why. I blame the TBI.
 
2013-07-22 09:52:08 AM
If it ain't broke...
 
2013-07-22 09:52:47 AM
images.wikia.com
 
2013-07-22 09:53:03 AM

blatz514: If it ain't broke...


That's right. The classics always work. The genius is in the simplicity.
 
2013-07-22 09:53:37 AM
If you get them happily into the car or house with candy, nothing other than fear or force will get them to your next step.  And undoubtedly whatever you've achieved is doubled in guilt or fear of being caught.  At the same time, the victim children that survive these ordeals are undoubtedly horribly effected for life with psychological issues and have a high likelihood of substance abuse and difficult, sometimes even dangerous interactions with others, creating a cycle that, if left unbroken, can last generations.   I take it child predators don't study game theory.
 
2013-07-22 09:55:18 AM
The phrase "history of kidnapping" just doesn't sound like someone who should be out in society.
 
2013-07-22 09:58:24 AM
Wait, that actually WORKS?
 
2013-07-22 10:02:13 AM

Carousel Beast: Sybarite: Kyle told detectives he was considering kidnapping again.

So, points for honesty?

The problem is that the guy is sick, but instead of treating it as a sickness we treat it as a crime. But it's gotten lost in the last 20-30 years that the purpose of punishment is to correct, except in the cases where the action is grievous enough to warrant a lifetime of incarceration, and even then corrective action should be taken.

It's fascinating to watch old shows like Dragnet and Adam-12 and see the emphasis that was put on rehabilitation and recognizing sickness for treatment.

/Republican


I 'd be surprised if anyone in any correction system is kidding themselves anymore with rehabilitation of this type of offender.  With recidivism rates as high as ever and the current approach to rehabilitation a farce,  we're slowly moving toward just removing this type of person from society and letting them live as natural an existence as you can in captivity.
 
2013-07-22 10:06:32 AM

Nana's Vibrator: If you get them happily into the car or house with candy, nothing other than fear or force will get them to your next step.  And undoubtedly whatever you've achieved is doubled in guilt or fear of being caught.  At the same time, the victim children that survive these ordeals are undoubtedly horribly effected for life with psychological issues and have a high likelihood of substance abuse and difficult, sometimes even dangerous interactions with others, creating a cycle that, if left unbroken, can last generations.   I take it child predators don't study game theory.


Butterfly effect
 
2013-07-22 10:19:06 AM
Came for the "Free Candy" van pics, left satisfied.
 
2013-07-22 10:29:11 AM
Bag full of rope, tape and scissors. Scary indeed. No one would ever have these items in their home. This is Florida. Why try to kidnap the kiddies when you can just hire them?
 
2013-07-22 10:40:53 AM
 
2013-07-22 10:40:59 AM
Dammnit Obama, can we just once go a day without you screwing something up?
 
2013-07-22 10:41:29 AM
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2013-07-22 10:44:08 AM

EvilEgg: That's a scary looking dude, I am not sure how he convinces children to go near him, even with the candy.


I think it's the eyes. They just look warm and inviting.
 
2013-07-22 10:52:02 AM

"Herrell said Kyle has a criminal history dating back to the 1970s and 80s that included arrest for kidnapping, luring and enticing and other crimes."


"Mr Horewinkle this has not been the first time you have appeared before this court on such a charge, and we must make sure that you do not appear here again. Bailiff, WHACK his pee pee!"

 
2013-07-22 11:01:41 AM
Kids often have pretty good instincts when it comes to people. I think they can subconsciously pick up on subtle facial expressions that adults can miss. It's a natural survival mechanism.

Unfortunately society tends to teach children they have to be nice to everyone, and than we lock them up inside to keep them away from those perverts.
 
2013-07-22 11:07:43 AM
So he went inside his house and left the kid in the van? Or is the writer just bad?
 
2013-07-22 11:10:50 AM
www.use.com
 
2013-07-22 11:11:52 AM
So let me get this straight

Step 1: Get kid in car.
Step 2: Drive home
Step 3: Leave kid in car, go inside
Step 4: Drive kid back to where he originally was.
Step 5: ????
Step 6: Get charged with false imprisonment/luring. .


Was he stopped with the kid? Is my reading comprehension that bad?
 
2013-07-22 11:13:33 AM

big pig peaches: Kids often have pretty good instincts when it comes to people. I think they can subconsciously pick up on subtle facial expressions that adults can miss. It's a natural survival mechanism.

Unfortunately society tends to teach children they have to be nice to everyone, and than we lock them up inside to keep them away from those perverts.


...Yeah, that's why kids are so good at avoiding getting raped.

Oh wait they're not. I got taught as a kid never to talk to strangers under any condition. Do they do something different now?
 
2013-07-22 11:32:11 AM
The child told detectives Kyle asked him to get inside the vehicle and they rode to his Leesburg home together.

My reading of this leads me to believe the kids were stupid.  I'm not sure how anyone else was raised but my parents instilled in the importance of keeping out of reach of people we didn't know and didn't have reason to trust.
 
2013-07-22 11:33:51 AM

Gergesa: The child told detectives Kyle asked him to get inside the vehicle and they rode to his Leesburg home together.

My reading of this leads me to believe the kids were stupid.  I'm not sure how anyone else was raised but my parents instilled in the importance of keeping out of reach of people we didn't know and didn't have reason to trust.


*...instilled in us...*

FTFM
 
2013-07-22 11:40:25 AM

theregoesthat: big pig peaches: Kids often have pretty good instincts when it comes to people. I think they can subconsciously pick up on subtle facial expressions that adults can miss. It's a natural survival mechanism.

Unfortunately society tends to teach children they have to be nice to everyone, and than we lock them up inside to keep them away from those perverts.

...Yeah, that's why kids are so good at avoiding getting raped.

Oh wait they're not. I got taught as a kid never to talk to strangers under any condition. Do they do something different now?


That's because most kids who are molested are molested by family members.

We are telling kids not to talk to strangers but by the looks of every news special on the subject it appears most kids aren't taking it to heart. And I believe that is partially due to the fact that we are sending mixed messages to kids by telling them not to judge people and be nice to everyone. There are subtle cues we we can extinctually pick up on to guage other's intentions but the general message of society it to ignore your instincts.
 
2013-07-22 11:41:56 AM

EvilEgg: That's a scary looking dude, I am not sure how he convinces children to go near him, even with the candy.


I try not to judge by appearances but this guy looked pretty much exactly as I imagined. I agree with you, no idea how he got kids to approach him.
 
2013-07-22 11:45:11 AM
Maybe his "free candy" trick will land him in jail and result in the "ass raped and shivved with a sharpened spoon to death" trick.
 
2013-07-22 11:49:56 AM
gambit

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2013-07-22 11:51:19 AM
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The child told detectives Kyle asked him to get inside the vehicle and they rode to his Leesburg home together. The man went inside the home while the child remained inside.


Hell, I'm 59 and this guy scares me. How the fark he was able to convince a 9 year-old kid to get in his car is beyond me.
 
2013-07-22 11:57:19 AM
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2013-07-22 11:58:16 AM

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The child told detectives Kyle asked him to get inside the vehicle and they rode to his Leesburg home together. The man went inside the home while the child remained inside.


Hell, I'm 59 and this guy scares me. How the fark he was able to convince a 9 year-old kid to get in his car is beyond me.


I know, I mean if they were younger I can see them being at a stage where they do whatever an adult tells them to do. But you'd think at 9 years old they'd have alarm bells going off in their head that this guy is creepy as hell and that you shouldn't just go along with him.
 
2013-07-22 12:03:02 PM
His problem has been known since the 70s?

Surprised that FOX didn't create a kid survivalist reality show starring this guy as an expert.with half a century of experience.
 
2013-07-22 12:03:10 PM

offmymeds: [media.trb.com image 383x510]

The child told detectives Kyle asked him to get inside the vehicle and they rode to his Leesburg home together. The man went inside the home while the child remained inside.


Hell, I'm 59 and this guy scares me. How the fark he was able to convince a 9 year-old kid to get in his car is beyond me.


This.

Forget Zimmerman and Trayvon.  If a 9 y/o blew this guy down, Stand-Your-Ground would be validate and the kid would  deserve a medal and a parade.
 
2013-07-22 12:05:05 PM

Carousel Beast: Sybarite: Kyle told detectives he was considering kidnapping again.

So, points for honesty?

The problem is that the guy is sick, but instead of treating it as a sickness we treat it as a crime. But it's gotten lost in the last 20-30 years that the purpose of punishment is to correct, except in the cases where the action is grievous enough to warrant a lifetime of incarceration, and even then corrective action should be taken.

It's fascinating to watch old shows like Dragnet and Adam-12 and see the emphasis that was put on rehabilitation and recognizing sickness for treatment.

/Republican





I agree.

This is becoming more rampant.
The current trend of high school teachers female and male taking advantage of their authority with students has to be studied.

Biological puberty is starting in children much earlier now while current understanding of the human mind says that mental maturity doesn't take place until around 23 years of age.

There are many questions that have to be asked:
Is it mental damage?
Children that are abused tend to abuse, is this multiplicity?
Is it the prevalence of pornography?

I don't advocate censoring the internet
just honest answers to difficult questions we as a people have to ask.
 
2013-07-22 12:09:00 PM
Detectives told local media that they found disturbing items at Kyle's house, including a bag full of tape, rope and scissors.

Herrell said Kyle has a criminal history dating back to the 1970s and 80s that included arrest for kidnapping, luring and enticing and other crimes.

Kyle told told detectives he was considering kidnapping again.


/Ok, who is the farking asshole who is responsible for letting this douche not only continue living, but letting him out of prison when he's obviously a repeat offender? Why hasn't he been thrown in general population and let it be known that he prey's on children? Should have just shot his ass and said he waist dove for a weapon and you had to shoot him. What a farking scumbag.
 
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